Thread 149841577

A bunch of cards from the upcoming Avatar MtG set were previewed today. This is not the complete set, there will be more cards.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/avatar-the-last-airbender/card-image-gallery

>no Azula
Come back later

>>149841577 (OP)
as much as i enjoy the crossovers, i could not give two fucks about this when i remember having a fucking bunch of avatar cards

>>149841675
Huh?
Are you saying you already own some form of previously released, nonMtG Avatar cards?

>>149841577 (OP)
>5 CMC for a counterspell
The card can make the opponent suck my dick and it still wouldn't be worth it.

>>149841577 (OP)
Toph looks like she could be fun with some destroy all nonland spells. Hate the complexity of all the different bendings. Lands look nice.

>>149841820
I like Sublime Epiphany meself

>>149841803
i OWNED some avatar cards yeah, it was a shitty game they made in like 2007 and i was around 14 at the time, they all died though because my mother put a bag of all my old manga books and dvds and cards/collectible minis in the attack and the damp just ruined everything, i salvaged 8 deathnote books

>>149841577 (OP)
Is the avatar gimmick you've to run all colors? Sounds pretty bad

>>149841895
Ah yes, I feel your pain Anon.
Rest in peace to all my damn Bionicles.

>>149841577 (OP)
I appreciate that the card itself is a haiku.

>>149841930
WUBRG is busted these days. It's gotten a lot more support since the Conflux era. Brawl on arena is absolutely rife with Golosfags and Jodahshitters

>>149841866
>Hate the complexity of all the different bendings
It's pretty simple:
Airbending temporarily pushes stuff away.
Waterbending has you do a group effort for a big effect
Earthbending lets your land cards deal damage
Firebending rewards you for attacking by giving you fuel for other stuff

>>149841963
huh, so it is. that is pretty cool

Having all those characters expressed as a bunch of draft garbage sours both MtG and the Avatar.

>>149841963
At least Wizards had some fun when they sold what remained of their soul.

>>149841973
It has? Aang seems like a damn good card then if the deck is already doing well, I can't see why you wouldn't run him

>>149841577 (OP)
>not fucking up the last line with an extea syllable
You had ONE JOB! ONE!

>>149842044
Only one of Sokka's haikus was incorrect, the rest were fine. Plus this way they avoid a wave of DURR HURR WIZARDS CAN'T HAIKU from people that don't get a reference.

>>149842075
>Plus this way they avoid a wave of DURR HURR WIZARDS CAN'T HAIKU from people that don't get a reference.
This. I can see many more people getting on WotC for that. One workaround would be to add flavor text spelling it out for those that don't get it.

>>149841577 (OP)
There are at least three other Avatar sets:

2006 Upper Deck Avatar Master of Elements, the TCG you had as a kid:

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewSet.cfm/sid/187242/2006-Upper-Deck-Avatar-Master-of-Elements

2010 McDonald's The Last Airbender, for the live action movie:

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewSet.cfm/sid/483238/2010-The-Last-Airbender

2021 Topps Avatar: The Last Airbender, a print on demand set with serial numbered parallel cards:

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewSet.cfm/sid/275843/2021-Topps-Avatar:-The-Last-Airbender

There's also a card that came with the Nicktoons MLB video game with Alex Rodriguez and Aang.

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/2011/Topps_Nicktoons_MLB_-_Base/5/Alex_Rodriguez_vs_Aang/23532970

>>149841983
MtG is well, well past soured Flavorwise.
That ship is a half decade past sailed at least, the last few years have seen them try to push big event after big event, endless outside IP slop, print on demand cards 80% of which are utter visual diarrhea and a complete disregard for anything that made the lore unique or cool.

>>149841577 (OP)
aww, I know it's simple but the rules text being a haiku does actually make me smile, like it's not all THAT clever, but it really doesn't have to be. Sometimes things are just nice.

>>149842005
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QfP2vEksvRM

>>149842196
As a nonsports card collector, if MtG players hate outside IPs, they should start traditional, non-TCG nonsports card publishers to compete for licenses. It's more difficult to sustain non-gaming nonsports cards, but y'all've built robots to do your sorting, you can figure out a way to make nonsports sustainable.

The worst thing to happen to nonsports was getting rid of the gum. The second was hitching the entire hobby to comic book shops, in the 90s. When the comic book and sports card market collapsed, so did the nonsports market, and aside from TCGs, it never recovered.

Here's the green /50 parallel of Azula's card from the 2021 Topps set

>>149842075
Yeah, but the one he screwed up on was the entire punchline. It's the one the whole episode is most known for, to the point where "Sokka Haiku" is a meme in itself.
>Plus this way they avoid a wave of DURR HURR WIZARDS CAN'T HAIKU from people that don't get a reference.
I mean, I guess? But that just seems like a silly concern to have when the entire point of these cards is to primarily be fanservice to causals that WOULD get the joke. If they're going to pander, don't half-ass it like this, else you risk appealing to nobody.

>>149843094
i swear 90% of commander players just assume the rules and dont sit there trying to dissect them anymore because im having a semi headache trying to read that.

>>149843154
oh ignore i read it back to myself and it makes sense.

>>149843154
what tripped you?

>>149843351
you shit is fucked when even yu gi oh cards are easier to understand,.

Any Mai cards?

>>149843390
Yu-Gi-Oh has to be easy to understand because it's for a Manga/Anime

>>149841820
It compares similarly to Dismiss (4cmc counter + draw). Being a lesson makes it easily tutorable which is completely wild. I think this card is at least as good as Cryptic Command which is a shame because Cryptic Command SHOULD be an extremely powerful card but is probably totally unplayable in even standard right now.

>>149843449
oh you have no idea my friend, its the most convoluted card game out there. its just words and words with little to no meaning. its actually impressive how they made it that way

>>149843449
>Yu-Gi-Oh
>Easy to understand
Maybe a long, long time ago.

>>149842005
Most of the universe beyond sets have more soul than the in-universe sets these days.

>>149843647
>chains with 4 other cards and then theres over 20 different spell effects and systems in one turn phase.
it must be impossible to play this irl if you dont know every card in your deck off by heart.

>>149843154
Thats a lot of words but it basically does 4 things
>Boardwipe
>Exile a specific card thats not in play
>Generate 3 mana on attack
>Play creatures from an opponent's graveyard when you hit them.

>>149843390
Absolutely not.

>>149843351
This is pretty straight forward.

>>149843720
yes i understood it shortly after a re read but i appreciate you for explaining it

>>149843680
Yes. But nobody runs a deck without a playset of each important card so each deck only has like 15 different cards at most.

>>149843750
yes im aware of the format

>>149843647
>>149843680
And that’s just the cards. God forbid when you get into semi-rule fuckery like ‘missing the timing’.

Looking forward to the Katara-Toph mudwrestling in card form.

>>149841577 (OP)
>lessons are coming back
They're really leaning into the "this is a standard legal set" thing, huh?

>>149843933
...yeah? because it is a standard legal set.
what the fuck are you trying to say here

>>149843945
I'm saying that until very recently universes beyond cards have been very Commander focused so it's odd to see a universes beyond set resurrect a card type that doesn't function in Commander. Especially when the only other set with lessons in no longer playable in standard.

>>149843351
Why the hell is this a Legendary Creature? There's absolutely nothing special about the fucking Cabbage Merchant that warrants that title.

>>149844025
Presumably to play on the gag that it's the same guy every time.

>>149843979
Lessons function in commander, as the subtype has no special rules. They're just cards.
It's the Learn ability that doesn't fully function in commander. Learn can't grab Lessons from outside the game in commander, but you can still pick the option to discard/draw a card instead.
There is absolutely nothing stopping them from simply creating another ability that interacts with Lesson cards. Maybe something that searches for them in your deck.

>>149843979
>Especially when the only other set with lessons in no longer playable in standard.
anon you know we're returning to the strixhaven plane soon, right

>>149844147
>It's the Learn ability that doesn't fully function in commander
Yeah y'know, like the entire point of lessons?
But yeah hopefully they add some new interaction with them. Maybe Iroh will deal with them.

>>149841577 (OP)
I wonder how long they are gonna pretend mtg is still a thing. All those collabs are just inverstor's bait, nobody really play that faceless garbage anymore.

>>149844170
Lesson cards can be played normally.

>>149844170
They literally just previewed a card that interacts with lessons. We're going back to Arcavios next year, which will be in the same Standard as the Avatar set. Quit your fucking whining.

>>149841577 (OP)
https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Atla+OR+set%3Atle&order=color&as=grid&unique=prints
better gallery is now up

>>149844222
Yes I realize, but outside of interaction with the Learn mechanic what purpose does a spell being a lesson have?

>>149844255
Well there we go, as long as there's some actual reason for them to be lessons. I'm not whining, I'm just commenting.

>>149844176
It's basically all my friends do anymore. We play like 3 nights a week now and it's been a real struggle to keep games to 5 or less players.

Tell me what my next Commander does already!

>>149844255
>>149843351
>Sokka starts out half as strong as the Cabbage Merchant
I get it but...

>>149845235
Cabbage Merchant could probably take episode 1 Sokka.

>>149841577 (OP)
Don't care, it has allyshit back which makes it shit

>>149845235
Sokka's main purpose is cycling cards and maybe even using madness. If he gets bigger and can do at least one good trade then he's more than done his work.

>>149845312
Why the intense hatred for Ally my guy?

>>149844176
Competitive magic has been dead since Covid. WotC doesn’t care because the people buying $700 booster boxes of Final Fantasy are all playing edh

>>149843979
The game is only about commander. They don’t give a shit about any other format.

>>149843390
Good luck following any of this

>>149843478
Words that seem like they have no meaning but to justify them the rulings all weigh heavily on which words specifically are used.
So a card like Magician’s Rod that lets you add a card that mentions Dark Magician in its text doesn’t actually work to search Eye of Timeaus despite having the words “Dark Magician” in its text because the phrase on the card is in the context of saying “a monster who’s name contains the words “Dark Magician” (in context of its effect, Dark Magician or Dark Magician Girl)”, and not “a monster by the name of Dark Magician”

>>149844025
In Magic, "Legendary Creature" just refers to named characters, regardless of how important or well-known they are in-universe. The "Legend rule" prevents you from controlling 2 copies of the same Legend on the field.

>>149846751
Yup. There were tons of rulings like this where the most famous example is either the Umi/Legendary ocean fuckup, or the red-eyes cards that worked with hundRED-eyes dragon. Nowadays most of it is nipped in the bid except for speedroids being able to mess with roids but that's because roids are so bad that nobody cares.

>>149843351
>This guy with the Hobbits

>>149841577 (OP)
I heard they are making a new cartoon, is that true?

>>149847955
Just fucking google it

>>149845312
How, exactly?

>>149847955
Yup.
Main protagonist is an indian named Pavi with an animal companion named Geet.
Pageet.