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Anonymous No.149842373 >>149842533 >>149842552 >>149842828 >>149843679 >>149843723
war bad
Anonymous No.149842385 >>149842533 >>149844875
War not bad.
Anonymous No.149842533
>>149842373 (OP)
>>149842385
Very good arguments on both sides.
Anonymous No.149842552 >>149842595 >>149842620 >>149844760
>>149842373 (OP)
the worst written character in the entire series right there.
All they had to do was make the bitch not go full pacifist, but no they made it two extremes.
Anonymous No.149842595
>>149842552
Better love interest for Obi than Siri Tachi
Anonymous No.149842620
>>149842552
>the worst written character in the entire series right there.
Reybros.. we're better than someone
Anonymous No.149842828 >>149842866
>>149842373 (OP)
War is, indeed, bad. She made her people more than just war obsessed retards who turn on each other.
Anonymous No.149842866 >>149843282
>>149842828
She weakened her people and they were ripe for conquest. If you want peace, prepare for war.
Anonymous No.149842958 >>149843387 >>149843415
what was she
Anonymous No.149843092
war fuckin amazing
Anonymous No.149843282
>>149842866
>She weakened her people
She's not the one who sold her people out to foreign powers nor is she the one who got her society destroyed and planet razed.
Anonymous No.149843387
>>149842958
Smokin hot
Anonymous No.149843415
>>149842958
Halaisi. Her species name is Halaisi
Anonymous No.149843431 >>149843477 >>149843553
Reminder that Mandalorians can be anyone. If I am a Mandalorian, I can accept any worthy fucker into it. Whether you're another human, a wookiee, a twi lek, a zeltron, a togruta, whatever kit fisto's people are, whatever grievous's people were called. Khaleesh? Whatever, doesn't matter.

AND I FUCKING QUOTE

"Here's why you can't exterminate us, aruetii. We're not huddled in one place—we span the galaxy. We need no lords or leaders—so you can't destroy our command. We can live without technology—so we can fight with our bare hands. We have no species or bloodline—so we can rebuild our ranks with others who want to join us. We're more than just a people or an army, aruetii. We're a culture. We're an idea. And you can't kill ideas—but we can certainly kill you."
Anonymous No.149843477 >>149843502
>>149843431
worthy being the operative word there, and Satine objectively failed at following at least two of the Resol'Nare
Anonymous No.149843502
>>149843477
Indeed!
Anonymous No.149843541 >>149843653
You know I can't quite blame Satine for wanting to take the Mandos in another direction after literally thousands of years of them getting their asses kicked. It'd be one thing if the Mandalorians had ever actually SUCCEEDED in conquering the galaxy. But did we ever get a Mando-run galaxy? No, we have not. They just keep losing, to the Republic, to the Jedi, even to the Sith. The Mandalorians keep getting their asses kicked over and over and over and over. There's a point at which it was probably inevitable that somebody like Satine would come along and be like "Hey, guys, this really hasn't worked out for us, what if we tried something different?". It's only natural to think that after a couple of millennia going through what the Mandos have.
Anonymous No.149843553
>>149843431
Jaster Mereel's Super Commando idea seems like a fair and fun way to spend time. Conquering the galaxy is boring.
Anonymous No.149843653
>>149843541
The Republic was so scared of Mandalorians smacking them around again that they.. did what they did during their civil war or whatever. Idk the lore is foggy.
Anonymous No.149843679 >>149843689
>>149842373 (OP)
She feels like such an idiot when you're aware that the entire war was literally staged by a single person working both sides for his own gain.
Anonymous No.149843689
>>149843679
.. True. Perhaps in universe it makes a little more sense but to us who know what's going on its kind of dumb.
Anonymous No.149843723 >>149843853 >>149845600 >>149846159
>>149842373 (OP)
So. If you were a Mandalorian, what does your blaster loadout look like?
Anonymous No.149843853
>>149843723
Two ELG-3A blaster pistols and a DC-15A blaster rifle
Anonymous No.149844760
>>149842552
She's yet another case of "knew something shady was going on regarding the war" but "made a target by Sheev and the Jedi".

They were fucked no matter what their politics, the Empire couldn't abide by such a historically relevant culture continuing to exist in any context. Maul and Gideon just sped shit up.
Anonymous No.149844875
>>149842385
>could have had Din become Mandalor and unite their people
>nah lets make Bo leader again, despite her failing her people twice already
God I hate Mando S03.
Anonymous No.149844983
>mandalorians glass their own planet
>hey guys maybe we should just drop this shit it's getting us nowhere
>it works
>B-BUT ITS NOT LIKE MUH HONOUR the deathwatch says
>deathwatch proceed to fuck up the planet and get satine killed
>empire rolls in, fucks the mandalorians again because they can't behave and nukes the planet again

satine was right and its criminal the mandalorian never brings her up
Anonymous No.149845600
>>149843723
Small gun I use 90% of the time, really big gun I use 10% of the time
Anonymous No.149845630
War good and profitable
Anonymous No.149845646 >>149845994 >>149846144
TCW's constant "War Bad" mantra always seemed at odds to me with the inherent appeal of Star Wars. Which is, you know, space battles with lasers and lightsabers. The last thing kids want to hear is that the cool thing needs to stop.
Anonymous No.149845694 >>149845734
>Cool looking character from the OT that became a fan favourite.
>Unceremoniously killed off (pic related).
>Expanded into whole warrior race of people in the EU.
>Prequels have Jango almost as a "you liked Boba Fett, like this" maybe in part because Lucas regretted killing off Boba and maybe as fanservice.
>But now we have him as a template for the clones and in the middle of the plot.
>EU Mandalorians become pivotal in a bunch of shit like the Old Republic.
>Clone Wars has Mandalore as a planet with Nordic looking people and Satine built a peace in her lifetime.
>Her minister guy acted like their violent culture and old ways were far behind them aside from a few extremists.
>Few arcs later it feels like everyone just had their Mandalorian armor in the back of their closet and remembered it was there because everyone is back to their old ways like nothing happened and Satine never existed.
>Rebels introduces more diverse Mandalorians and more clans.
>The Mandalorian introduces them as a creed not a race, but also acknowledges the other stuff to continue the same plotline from Clone Wars and Rebels.
>Book of Boba Fett completely cucks the character to make him a jobber with a massively unsatisfying arc.
I can't help but feel like this whole thing is a mess. Star Wars to me is kind of paper thin. On paper, it should be a universe where you can do anything but the lore is always "thing you liked but more" and following the comic book pattern of origin stories and origin stories to the origin stories featuring all the same few elements.
Anonymous No.149845734 >>149845819
>>149845694
Which is why Disney's approach to the EU hasn't worked. It's all and endless series of interconnected adventures that you need to know about to understand the newest show or movie. Meanwhile Legends was just "Here's Han Solo fighting an Otter" and it was okay if no one ever read it.
Anonymous No.149845819 >>149846327
>>149845734
>Which is why Disney's approach to the EU hasn't worked.
In theory, having a clean slate would have been fine but in practice they hired a bunch of people with political bones to pick, poor set up for the sequels and generally bad stories. That and their new continuity already has a bunch of holes and contradictions in it despite them setting up a team to keep it in check.

Legends was messy and had plenty of interconnected adventures in the whole post-RotJ storyline, so I don't think your analysis is entirely correct because to understand those stories you did have to read a bunch about them. And plenty of old EU is tonally weird, dumb or just the same issue I am talking about of taking x thing and expanding it out to death.

You have something people find interesting but has little depth and all their attempts to add depth just make it kind of messy and less interesting than the aesthetically pleasing but shallow original. And even when Disney attempted to return to that with The Mandalorian show, eventually that show just got bogged down in the same plot. A lot of people act like Disney ruined The Mandalorian by doing that stuff, but I honestly believe it was always the plan because The Mandalorian exists to set up spin offs and recontextualise the sequels. And the stuff people liked (basic things like Mandalorian doing a prison break or defending a village) was just a guise for the other shit.
Anonymous No.149845994
>>149845646
Wars not make one great
Anonymous No.149846144
>>149845646
Star Wars was always anti-war. While it shows war, it never glorified it.
>"Victory? Victory, you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the Dark Side has fallen. Begun, the Clone Wars has."
Just how fucking stupid are Star Wars fans? I have never met so many retarded people in one place. It's honestly sad. You people don't actually deserve it. All you want is to play with cool plastic toys and watch shallow, pointless crap like 2D Clone Wars and The Force Awakens.
Anonymous No.149846159
>>149843723
I'm a simple man with simple needs, any solid blaster carbine with a DE-10 for a backup, and a shitload of grenades
Anonymous No.149846327 >>149846350
>>149845819
>a guise for the other shit
Which would be fine if that other shit expanded from there and wasn't a bunch of callbacks to other material. I've already seen Bo Katan fuck everything up in TCW, why do I need to see it again in The Mandalorian only this time with less context for everything that is happening? It really can't be overstated just how the Rogue One-related material nailed what Disney has been trying to do in a crowd pleasing way that everyone else working on SW fails to grasp. You can watch Rogue One by itself and it works; it's a simple story with archetypical characters, obvious emotional beats, and a really cool battle scene. The Battle of Scarif is pure fanservice, but instead of "hey guys, remember this character from a kid's show that aired 18 years ago" kind of fanservice it's "we all know what we want out of a film named 'Star Wars'" kind of fanservice. And Andor, which could have easily been a dumpster fire for multiple reasons, works because it stays self-contained, doesn't overcomplicate itself, avoids the pitfalls of prequels that Solo and even the PT fell into, and deals with something fans of the franchise actually wanted to see - a ground view of what it's like to actually live in the SW galaxy. And it works because it does so with a great deal of nuance and realism regarding life under a police state.
Anonymous No.149846350
>>149846327
Andor literally doesn't have an ending. You have to go and watch that godawful Rogue One movie to get the ending. Season 2 with the exception of the Ghorman arc was pure garbage.