Thread 149845015

Did this ever happen in the comics or cartoons?

Male rape is funny and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

Remember that guy a year ago who spammed a bunch of "why doesn't batman rape the joker" threads? Whatever happened to him?

>>149845095
He got a job as a screenwriter

>>149845015 (OP)
>plap plap plap GET CLOWNED INCEL plap plap plap GET CLOWNED INCEL plap plap plap

What did The Penguin got right that Joker 2 got so wrong?

>>149845015 (OP)
Gordon was right all along

So now we got to ask: does rape work on evil clowns in general? Would Harley stop being evil if she was raped? What about Pennywise? Or Art the Clown?

>>149846842
The Penguin wasn't written like it fucking hated its audience.

>>149847433
>Harley
Yes
>Pennywise
Yes
>Art the Clown
No

So now everytime someone gets beat up off screen they're getting raped?

GET HIS FUCKIN' RAGS OFF

How did /co/ get it so right? Or did the writer read /co/?

>>149847718
the most ridiculous thing possible was created and because we are in the clown reality of course it became truth.

>>149846842
What happened to Joker 2 is actually more common than you might thinks. It's just one of the most blatant examples.
>Joker 1 portrays the Joker as a metally ill loser
>movie is a hit and the Joker becomes more popular than ever
>NOOO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE THE JOKER THAT WASN'T THE POINT
>in an attempt to make audiences understand the point they were trying to make, they make an entire movie about how shit it is to be the Joker
>because making a point is now the goal, instead of making a good movie, it's hamfisted, over the top and tasteless
>nobody actually wants to see that, regardless of whether they "got" Joker 1 or not

In another /co/-related example, you can see the exact same thing with The Boys. People liked Homelander too much in the early seasons so they literally torpedoed their own show attempting to make a hamfisted point.

>>149847794
>Are we so out of touch?
>No, it's the audience who are wrong

>>149845095
>a year ago

like 10-15 years ago

>>149845015 (OP)
So this movie confirms what I suspected from the start- Todd Philips is a total hack and the first Joker movie was saved because everyone else that collaborated with the project hard carried his shit vision ala Star Wars- right?

>>149845095
He's writing Joker movies

>>149847794
Dumbass, even in the first movie you're not supposed to like him. By the end he's a delusional retard that justifies murdering people and acting like he's above it and is basically the catalyst for why Gotham got so shitty.
Joker 2 wasn't made to "prove a point" it's just showing the natural conclusion to being someone like that. You become a prison bitch and have your life ruined one way or the other.
Show me a single time Todd Philips or any of the people working on the movie disliked how much the first movie resonated with them in terms of liking the Joker. No? Nothing? You faggots are just projecting? What else is new
I think anyone that says Joker 2 was some "gotcha" at people that liked Joker are genuinely retarded or butthurt. True the movie spelled it out too much but even the first one showed that you do NOT want to be like Joker. You're just upset that the 2nd one didn't sugarcoat it

>>149847616
it's pretty fuckin' heavily implied they raped him

>>149848359
Actually based and true
It really is unironic "im da joker baby le society made me this way" faggots that can't accept that they're not based and cool for acting like that

imagine Arthur's tight bussy clamping down on your fat cock

>>149848359
Literally people didn't understand the first movie and got mad when the second movie was an actual continuation

>>149845015 (OP)
This is going to get the Halloween 3 treatment in 20 years mark my words.

>>149848548
is that what you call movies that were hated on release but after a long period of time are seen as a cult classic?

>>149845015 (OP)
I remember threads when they were discussing if he was raped by the moms boyfriend pr not...good times

>>149847794
>instead of making a good movie, it's hamfisted, over the top and tasteless
So it's faithful to the first one then.

>>149845015 (OP)
They revealed he's not the actual joker. Still a messed up decision to make.

>>149845015 (OP)
Did they...you know?

>>149847764
We memed gordon posting into reality just like /tv/ crashed a plane

>>149848359
>completely and utterly frothing with rage at anon
Aren't you two just agreeing with a few extra steps? He literally says that the first movie portrays him as a mentally ill loser (who by author intention you're not supposed to like, but was liked anyway); but he claims that the second movie is a doubling down of that intent to make it clear rather than just a natural conclusion. So the real divergence in opinion is whether or not they purposefully overdid the second movie as a reaction to the audience of the first to establish how terrible the Joker's life really is.
Whatever they were trying to accomplish with the second, saying that the second movie "spelled it out too much" may as well be an understatement. By any reasonable metric, the whole 'assfucked by corrupt cops so that all the remaining joy in his existence seeps out of his ruined anus' was seen as too much or bizarrely comical by most people. Everyone I knew laughed about it when they heard of it and wrote the movie off as not worth seeing.

>>149848359
How about you actually read the post before you shit yourself in meaningless rage next time? You're agreeing with him and you're too retarded to even realize it.

>>149848359
Its okay to be understanding why he became that way and not agree with him.
Its called empathy. Its a lost art for Western folks these days.

>>149849104
>Its a lost art for Western folks these days.
Only if they're leftists.
Yes, I'm crashing this thread with no survivors.

>>149848657
I'm actually surprised you don't see the Joker crossdress more

>>149849104
>Its okay to be understanding why he became that way and not agree with him
more or less my thoughts exactly, I viewed him as a sympathetic villain, a mentally ill loner who never could have received the kind of help (or fulfillment) that he needed.

>raped by Brendan Gleeson

The fate of all Jokers

>>149848657
>>149849126
The relationship between the Batman and the Joker can be so damn gay at times.
Honestly, the Bat should just give into his homolust and sneak into Arkham one night to teach him a 'permanent lesson' ala the Joker 2.

>>149845095
JUST "a year ago"?!
That shit was for like 5+ years, and was an evolution of the old "Why doesn't Batman kill the joker" bait thats been on /co/ for over 10 years.

>>149848654
Eh I'm honestly surprised people were surprised at this.

I think The Joker is a great movie, but its not like it was depicting a criminal mastermind.
Having him be just one of many crazy guys in Gotham makes more sense.

>>149849148
He was receiving the help he needed.
And then it was taken away from him.

>>149848548
>>149848573
It's when a shitty movie releases, fails, exists long enough for people to grow up with it, and then those people go on to perpetuate the idea that it was actually good all along

>>149845015 (OP)
Often enough

>>149849522
He was receiving it in the ass.

>>149848359
>Dumbass, even in the first movie you're not supposed to like him. By the end he's a delusional retard that justifies murdering people and acting like he's above it and is basically the catalyst for why Gotham got so shitty.
yeah and that's fun to watch and cool
Joker 1 is LITERALLY just capeshit Taxi Driver. That's why it's entertaining. No, the Joker murdering people is not good, but you can see what drove him to that point and the movie does a good job of showing how rotten and corrupt Gotham is that it produces men like this.

There is no rape. Why are you lying.

>>149850305
he is literally gang raped and sodomized by the prison guards and from that point on abandons his Joker persona.
They don't show full penetration, but they're not stripping his clothes off and crowding him naked in the prison showers just to beat him. A mere beating does not break the Joker and permanently ruin him to be nothing more than Arthur Fleck. Punching the joker in the face just makes him smile harder.

It's 100% intended as prison rape and anyone who's not disingenuous as fuck was disgusted by this retarded movie made out of spite towards the first's success

>>149848359
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE HIM, HE'S LE BAD! THE WRITER SAYS HE'S LE BAD! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HATE HIM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH CHLAMYDIA GLITTERACY

>>149845024
Female rape is also funny

>>149847511
Correct. Correct. Correct.

>>149850366
There is no spite. You’re angry because you want Arthur to be a hero when all he is is a mentally ill man who stopped taking his pills, developed delusions of grandeur and killed people. The sequel is about him falling back to his delusions, fall in love and show that deep down he is not a criminal mastermind, not a figure of rebellion, not a movement leader. He’s a sad, broken man who just wanted to be loved and nobody accepts him as he really is. That’s why Harley dumps him and the other inmate stabs him. They are the audience wanting Arthur to be something he never was and throwing a tantrum when they don’t get what they want from him. The enormous backlash is absolutely perfect encapsulation of it.

>>149850521
>You’re angry because you want Arthur to be a hero
I don't want him to be a hero. The first movie is just Gotham Taxi Driver. If Scorsese made a sequel to Taxi Driver where Travis is gangraped in prison and reduced to a cowardly wreck I would think that's fucking retarded too.
>There is no spite.
lol
this is just being contrarian for the sake of it, yes joker 2 was entirely made out of spite, Todd Philips literally said he didn't want to make the movie period

>>149845015 (OP)
That idea was stolen from American History X where Edward Norton's character stopped being a racist after getting raped by a smarter, wiser racist.

>>149850634
>>149850366
You really enjoy the idea of your hero being raped. Like you would prefer he was confirmed to have been raped, instead of ocnfirmed he was just beaten and stripped thrown out into the rain.

>>149850705
nobody enjoys it, it's just some walks-her-home-gently level denial to pretend that's not exactly what the script and direction isn't showing. this pathetic attempt at deflection where you blame audiences for hating something you put in the movie by pretending they're reading too deep into tea leaves is embarrassing. Nobody is dumb enough to fall for it.

>>149848359
>the first one showed that you do NOT want to be like Joker. You're just upset that the 2nd one didn't sugarcoat it
WTF are you talking about? No one IRL wants to emulate the Joker. We know Joker is evil, and no one wants to be him. He's just interesting to watch as a villain. We wanted to be entertained. Light from Death Note, Darth Vader, Griffith from Berserk, Vaas from Far Cry? They're all villains, and I have literally met no one who said they wanted to follow their example.

I swear you Philips apologists just make up random, false accusations that aren't true. I like the first movie because Arthur was a serial killer and started a political movement that was hindering the city. He was terrorist like in the comics, and you can see why he is Batman's archenemy.

Joker 2 was a fucking musical borefest that went too long and spent too much time telling the audience that Arthur was a loser. Joker is based on a comic book; you guys still read comics, right? He's supposed to end up as being a threatening force to Batman.

Expecting a Joker origin story revealing how he became Batman's archenemy and how he got there isn't something you should be shocked about when you don't get it, and fans get pissed that this wasn't actually the real Joker.

It would be like if Disney did an Emperor Palpatine movie, but instead of focusing on his rise to power, it portrayed him as a loser the entire film, only to be tricked by the studio into revealing that we weren't actually watching the real Emperor the whole time—he was just a clone. So you just wasted everyone's time watching this nonsense.

That's how it feels to watch Joker 2. It wasn't even about Joker's origin story that the studio marketed it as to fans. We we literally just watching a pretender.

>>149850794
Got a script? Was that ever leaked?

>>149845015 (OP)
Paul Dini wrote an origin for the Joker where as a child he wound up the sex slave of a mob boss who also broke his jaw.

>>149848362
Was there ever an official comment on this?