Thread 149899094

This really was the first point where it was very clear that Genndy lost his mind.

>>149899094 (OP)
I do sympathise with him here, its clearly a soft pilot for other seasons not focused in prehistoric times because animation is fucked and he's got to give investors a reason to give him more seasons.
Does kill the pacing though

>>149899094 (OP)
I love this episode i dont get the hate for it

>>149899167
Not going to say you’re wrong for liking it, but I’ll explain why I don’t:
>Complete non sequitur after a massive cliffhanger
>wastes an episode slot on a very limited time crunch, the consequences of this are seen in the finale
>completely takes the focus away from what I watched the show for
>is a dialogue based episode when the series was literally founded on not having dialogue
>feels unnecessary, as the themes it explores and explains out loud have been a staple of the series since the beginning
Shoving in a completely random story in between what people are invested in typically causes some pushback.

>>149899094 (OP)
It was a standalone, you eeeediot.

>>149899382
Remember when people were swearing up and down that this episode would come back in the end and everyone saying it was a one off was a moron? I remember.

>>149899094 (OP)
fixed was hilarious

>>149899346
I understand the immediate frustrations with the episode in the middle of the season, but years later? Every one of your complaints is it being a different story, not it being a bad story. If it truly were a Genndy’s Weird Tales anthology, I think this is a fun halloween special.

for a moment, it made me think that Primal took place on some lost continent and some Dishonored shit was about to go down

>>149899512
As I said, its consequences were felt across the season by causing pacing issues and taking up time resulting in a very rushed finale.

>>149899460
Subjective

>>149899094 (OP)
That episode was good but should have been done as the last episode of the season as a sort of epilogue or teaser to other stories in the future. Alternatively have Spear's descendant / reincarnation be with the gents beating the fucking tar out of the psychopath with the power of awakened UNGA

>>149899535
I mean wasn't that what it was? When they were captured on the prison fortress they were fighting other civilizations from varying time periods

>>149899561
Yes… I know. That’s what I was responding to. Thanks for saying it again though.

Would it have worked better as an epilogue?

>>149899657
What about the part where I talked about the episode lacking one of the main appeals of the show for me by having fucktons of dialogue? I’ll add another thing for you, I also didn’t like the lack of emotions the episode had, that was another one of the main appeals the show had to me.

>>149899094 (OP)
He should've gone in with the anthology idea and made half the episode completely random. You'd get a Spear and Fang episode, then a random anthology episode. Maybe try to tie them together thematically but it doesn't need it.

>>149899167
Really should have been the season opener or finally as it presents the thesis of the show while also opening up the concept of primal beyond man and his dino; it being the fifth episode of season 2 was weird and fucked with the pacing of a season that was already doing too much

>>149899094 (OP)
Only americans got filtered by this episode

>>149900042
Then why is it mostly Americans that defend it?

>>149900042
>America out of NOWHERE

>>149899346
>feels unnecessary, as the themes it explores and explains out loud have been a staple of the series since the beginning
And yet people still missed the point, complained about the humans being there and wanted "nonstop episodic adventures with Spear & Fang" to become Primal's "brand".

It wasn't there to explain the theme, it was there to enforce it and make a fun episode in the process. It also made it clear that a big part of the show was about the pretentiousness of humanity compared to Spear's simple instinct-driven actions - the Viking Chieftain's biggest flaw was his constructed idea of fairness & ritualistic revenge.

>muh America
Someone tried this in another thread to defend this episode, posting pics of Hilda with filenames like “Hilda_hot.jpg” When their main argument was proven incorrect they started saying that it didn’t matter to begin with.

>>149900343
Are we finally acknowledging that king Vicuck was a massive hypocrite that only believed in might makes right when he was the stronger party?

>>149900000
Damn nice get dude

>>149899094 (OP)
I still think it's pretty cool.

>>149900388
I wouldn't say he's a hypocrite, as far as we can tell there's no sophistry to his plight. I didn't think we were supposed to read him as some Viking Supremacist or whatever who was begging for a fair fight or whatever. He just wanted revenge by any means after coming home to find his entire home dead. He's not really too different from Fang, Spear. or that big ass evil Dinosaur from the first episode. Everyone is their own Protagonist trying to survive and thrive in the world of Primal but not everyone does.

>>149901992
Nah he was
>We go around raiding and kidnapping because we are stronger and can!
>W-what? We lost to someone stronger we tried to kill?!?!! HELP ME SATAN MAKE ME STRONGER!

>>149901992
That guy is a retard who has spent literal years seething at the Viking characters like they personally stole his family IRL

>>149902036
Many such historical cases

>>149902036
What are you talking about? He fucking died. Did you just expect him to say "Nah Caveman won fair and square, I'm good"

>>149902087
If he didn’t want to spend literal eternity being tortured in hell? Yes.

>>149899094 (OP)
I feel like people on both sides of the Genndy argument need to accept that he's both a really talented animator and cartoonists, but also isnt immune to to criticism and has created some mediocre product before. I think he's best when making mature shows that are action centric. When he tries to do more comedy focused stuff is when he kinda becomes meh.

Btw this episode was great, IDK what the fuck you're on about OP.

>>149902549
That's about my viewpoint, but it's also why I think Primal becoming an anthology is for the best. He does his best work with simple, episodic stories like the first season, but struggles tying long-form stories together.
Season 3 onwards can just have like each episode be a new set of characters, with the occasional 2 or 3 parter, and I think that's going to be ideal. Tie them all together with the show's theme of "Survival". This would also free them up to make cool, pulpy scenarios you might not have gotten with just Spear and Fang.
>A small band of knights defend a castle from being sieged by a massive army
>A group of Romans get picked off by Picts, slowly losing their organized tactics as their numbers dwindle
>A barbarian gets captured and forced to fight in the Colosseum
>A British explorer awakens a mummy curse, getting lost in a labyrinthian tomb
>A private detective investigates a cult, only to discover cosmic terrors from beyond reality
>An African champion hunter gets in over his head as he chases down a massive lion
>A lone samurai survives a massive battle, only to discover the bloodshed has attracted evil yokai
>Last ep of the season, Fang teaches her dino-babies how to hunt and they get into shenanigans

No spear and fang means no watch

>>149899094 (OP)
I liked it, just because we don't get enough Animated Victorian Horror.

>>149899094 (OP)
Genndy is a hack and can't write a decent story to save his life! he's all style over substance

>>149903275
Style is substance you stupid faggot

>Victorian Boxing Champion going up against a massive escaped asylum patient/cannibal.

Well, I thought it was cool.

>>149903434
I just really liked how as the fight went own he kept going back in time in terms of weaponry and fighting styles till he was reduced to a caveman with a spear. Only then did he kill that luncatic.

I jerk it to porn of Fang at least once a day, do I have a problem?

>>149903304
moron

>>149904390
Cope

>>149903759
The real lesson is that Lord Darlington probably needs glasses after that rather unflattering show of marksmanship.

>>149899094 (OP)
What's wrong with it, yo?

>Not Ego Trip
>Not Season 5 of Samurai Jack

>>149899094 (OP)
That was the only good part of that season

>>149905861
The Red Mist and Shadow of Fate mog the shit out of The Primal Theory on every level.

>>149905850
Season 5 was good

>>149905850
Ego Trip is kino

>>149905901
The first half of Season 5 was good.

>>149899094 (OP)
It was my favourite episode of the season.

>>149906012
>>149905861
Garbage taste desu