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Anonymous No.149927301 [Report] >>149927481 >>149928561 >>149929125 >>149929453 >>149929628 >>149930450 >>149930588
Unsounded
Sorrry Jivi, your right to refuse has been revoked.
Anonymous No.149927425 [Report] >>149927515 >>149927534 >>149927541 >>149929408 >>149930568 >>149932576
betcha that's Bastion's ship and the Queen gave Duane to what's left of the poor cronenberg'd bastard
Anonymous No.149927481 [Report] >>149927563
>>149927301 (OP)
Jivi is right to be concerned about two Sette in existence.
Anonymous No.149927490 [Report] >>149927822
Sette knows how to cut a dramatic figure when she wants to
Anonymous No.149927515 [Report] >>149927757 >>149927877
>>149927425
Wait, did Bastion get fucked up?
I'm trying to remember what all went down after he ran into the Queen/Dorkest
Anonymous No.149927534 [Report] >>149927778 >>149927952 >>149928607
>>149927425
Could potentially be whichever faction of Alds was corresponding with Bell.
Anonymous No.149927541 [Report] >>149927757 >>149928163 >>149944037
>>149927425
What would Bastion ordinarily need with a ship?
Anonymous No.149927563 [Report]
>>149927481
Yeah. What if they both want his hat?
Anonymous No.149927757 [Report] >>149927810 >>149929061
>>149927515
we don't know what happened to him after he got the torc half ripped out and offset with Darkest, so he might be all kinds of fucked up
>>149927541
he doesn't ordinarily need one, but if the queen he's on good terms with returns his science experiment to him, he needs a way to get it back to his workshop...
Anonymous No.149927778 [Report] >>149927965 >>149928020
>>149927534
you really think that faction would show up in town openly during the public execution of their own faction?
Anonymous No.149927810 [Report] >>149927955
>>149927757
Doesn’t the First Silver go into his dick and balls too?
Would his dick exploding be the real Unsounding?
Anonymous No.149927822 [Report] >>149928389 >>149928469
>>149927490
Anonymous No.149927834 [Report] >>149927952 >>149928020 >>149928942
I want to say it's Jivis mom's ship that's just flying aldish colours because you know pirates and shit but I feel like Jivi would recognize her ship.
Anonymous No.149927877 [Report] >>149929061 >>149929155
Jivi and Sette interacting just the two of them really being out the sailor and thief in them. Cool to see.
>>149927515
He offset during a khert fire and Darkest went with, which shouldn't have been possible as Bastion can't even carry his gut flora with him when he's offsetting, it's just him and the silver embedded in him. We don't know what state they're in and Ashley hinted at it being something grisly, but we do know that Bastion canonically lives much longer and takes on the name Etalarche, which I don't believe has changed with Unsounded. I suppose offsetting with a person in tow might be possible if the spell relies on contiguous living human flesh, that would probably be the easiest way.

There's also the whole Lady I killing all of her black tongues during a tantrum, Bastion's obviously her favorite, but she had no problem targeting her second favorite, Rahm.

Speaking of, Ashley mentioned wanting to fit Rahm and Iori into the epilogue in here but couldn't find the space to do it. A short side story with them would be great.
Anonymous No.149927929 [Report] >>149928015
Have Jivi and Sette always been this fucking cute together? I can't wait to add Duane back to this new dynamic and see what that looks like lol
Anonymous No.149927952 [Report]
>>149927534
Could be conspirators with the queen. Vampire and Roger wouldn't be the only ones who had to help her, particularly getting through the tunnels. And while their movement ended when Roger was cursed it's possible that some of the march have stayed in touch.
>>149927834
He specifically says it's an Aldish ship. It could be he's identifying it off more than just the color. Though this is a cool theory as well. But as a privateer for Cresce, why would she be hiding her ship's colors in Crescian waters, and especially at port? Why would anyone Ald or otherwise? It's extremely conspicuous.
Anonymous No.149927955 [Report] >>149928589
>>149927810
>and balls
anon...
Anonymous No.149927965 [Report] >>149928972
>>149927778
Everything Bell did, he did unknowingly under the influence of Queen Sonorie, with her full knowledge. It isn't a stretch to assume that a group of Alds whose goal is to foment conflict between the Gefendur and Ssaelit (on the side of the former) would be coordinating with a queen who has the same goal.
Anonymous No.149928015 [Report] >>149929087
>>149927929
>Have Jivi and Sette always been this fucking cute together?
No but I love it. They're really similar people and now that they're not constantly bickering and the world isn't ending it shows.
Anonymous No.149928020 [Report] >>149928163
>>149927834
That's assuming it didn't recently become "her ship."
>>149927778
Roger's not really their faction as the oncoming unfunny forced meme will demonstrate.
Anonymous No.149928163 [Report]
>>149928020
>That's assuming it didn't recently become "her ship."
That could work.
>>149927541
He can't take anything at all with him when offsetting. So if it's for him, then it's for transportation of others like Darkest, Nora, or Duane, or because he's too injured to be traveling by offsetting, for example losing stitches.
Anonymous No.149928389 [Report] >>149928433 >>149928488 >>149928526 >>149929087
>>149927822
More confirmation that increasing her height will be the first thing Sette modifies about herself.
Anonymous No.149928433 [Report] >>149928488
>>149928389
>A Sette who can reach the top shelf
Anonymous No.149928469 [Report]
>>149927822
I wonder how different things would have turned out if Sette had known escorting Duane was her actual purpose from the start. Easy enough to do when he's not a person, but once she found out he was real what would she do?
Anonymous No.149928488 [Report]
>>149928389
>>149928433
The real reason Khette wants to be a man.
Anonymous No.149928526 [Report]
>>149928389
I dunno. Being tall and glorious is good for negotiating, but being small and sneaky is good for general skulduggery. Sette is smart enough that she'd have to think long and hard on it.
Anonymous No.149928561 [Report] >>149930593
>>149927301 (OP)
Surely he can't say no to his own boss.
Anonymous No.149928589 [Report] >>149928602 >>149928611 >>149928801
>>149927955
I though the Black Tongues still had them, they just got an internal vasectomy from the silver?
Anonymous No.149928602 [Report]
>>149928589
Someone post that panel of Bastion's balls-free dong.
Anonymous No.149928607 [Report] >>149928856
>>149927534
wait did Karl think that gay dudes have different genitals from straight ones
Anonymous No.149928611 [Report] >>149928801 >>149929473 >>149929519
>>149928589
Not only do they have to castrate themselves and throw the balls into a burning brazier, but Titty bird controls their libido forever afterwards. Their cum also turns jet black and sterilizes any woman they fuck.
Anonymous No.149928801 [Report] >>149928864 >>149929186 >>149929243 >>149930465
>>149928611
>>149928589
Importantly, the more she likes you the hornier you are. She uses sex as a reward and a bargaining chip. And she can make you interested in people you otherwise would not be. For example, Rahm has had sex with Bastion despite being straight, not bi. Fun bonus, the more Ashle- I mean Ilganyag likes you, the deeper the first silver tendrils of your torc go. If she doesn't like you at all, it's easy to remove. If she does like you, it starts to tighten around your neck to be harder to take off and eventually the silver begins to grow into your body. Bastion's entire body is filled with fine silver threads that Ilganyag can manipulate however she likes. It's a wonder that all the smut Ashley adds to her comic's backstory never gets in the way of telling the story. I wonder how many of us would have believed that one of the best pieces of literature we would see has canonical lamia sex with a side of mindrape, reverse sounding coming from inside of the body, and a crow girl with six tits and vaginas in her wings fucking making love with a rotten corpse.
Anonymous No.149928856 [Report]
>>149928607
I think it was just a snide comment about Roger, unless they think coppers are that inhuman. Which I suppose is possible since they grow tremendously large and the main drug of choice, is a steroid that can make men's penises grow too big to accommodate.
Anonymous No.149928864 [Report] >>149928876 >>149929243
>>149928801
Artists are always perverts. This gives them their power.
Anonymous No.149928876 [Report]
>>149928864
Sure, but usually with the successful ones you don't find out until after they die or at least until after their main works are finished.
Anonymous No.149928914 [Report]
Website comment:
>Now that could be a major complication. You have to wonder who exactly would even want him back? Or maybe it’s just Doordash delivering Farold’s.

>The print book Kickstarter is LIVE! [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project]

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>-Ashley
Patreon comment:
>Who d'you reckon that could be? Sette's jumping to the worst conclusion and Jivi is convinced it's an Aldish ship (he'd know, he has expertise) but hm hm hm.

>Kickstarter just shy of 109k! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project

>I need to draw some kind of social media doodle to advertise it again tomorrow, anyone you wanna see? :3
Anonymous No.149928942 [Report]
>>149927834
Something like this is what I'm thinking too.
Anonymous No.149928950 [Report] >>149929073 >>149929141
Does Cope turn any sort of profit from the Kickstarter, or does it just let her get the prints to as many people as possible without having to use her own money?
Anonymous No.149928972 [Report] >>149930671
>>149927965
>Everything Bell did, he did unknowingly under the influence of Queen Sonorie, with her full knowledge.
Well no, a lot of the problems in this story stem from the fact that she DIDN'T involve herself enough with what was going on with Bell - she just asked Ruck to unhinge him, ordered Toma somewhere he'd stumble across the silver, and naively thought that would be enough. That unwillingness to get involved is what bought her the death of her sister, the Inak pogrom, the razing of Ethelmik, and frankly, it's only a matter of luck that Bell didn't actually manage to pull off his coup.
Anonymous No.149929061 [Report] >>149929127
>>149927757
>>149927877
20 sem says Bastion and Darkest are fine except they permanently switch hairstyles
Anonymous No.149929073 [Report]
>>149928950
They're essentially preorders for a book. Whatever the rate the publisher is giving her on book sales, she's going to get that. I don't know how this works with PDF sales, add ons like other people's books or commissions, or the extra donations. ICC will also take a cut to pay themselves for their work as publishers. But both Cope and ICC want a majority of the profits going towards printing the books for backers, and printing excess to ship to retailers.
Anonymous No.149929087 [Report] >>149929127 >>149929167
>>149928015
It's adorable, Sette needs a friend her age, and by age I mean emotional maturity level

>>149928389
As much as I love the idea of Sette growing up, Ash has repeatedly stated that she's perfectly comfortable with her body exactly how it is. Her insecurities come from how she's judged by others, but she doesn't have anything that could be considered dysphoria. So I don't think she'll mess with perfection.
Anonymous No.149929125 [Report] >>149929677
>>149927301 (OP)
bro you already kissed her
you can't back down now
Anonymous No.149929127 [Report] >>149930688
>>149929061
I don't have to 20 sem to lose on an obviously wrong bet, I already lost it to Sette in tic tac toe.
>>149929087
For me it was the way they both code switched here. I don't think you could get this from them if Duane or Matty were part of this conversation. While Sette herself is no sailor, she's grown up around them. And while Jivi is no thief, he's certainly not grown up with the most wholesome of influences. It feels like getting to see Duane go on one of his long, nerdy rants about Ssael or pymary but this time it's their turn.
Anonymous No.149929141 [Report]
>>149928950
She has a publishing contract with whoever is running that Kickstarter, so she'll make a percentage of the net profit. That's how publishing works.
Anonymous No.149929155 [Report] >>149929185
>>149927877
>that Bastion canonically lives much longer and takes on the name Etalarche
the fuck?
Anonymous No.149929167 [Report] >>149929233
>>149929087
If Sette actually starts growing up mentally now that she has a few normal friendships and isn't constantly fucking with her own head I could see that changing eventually
Anonymous No.149929185 [Report]
>>149929155
RP Bastion, he shows up in a few old pieces of art. Last I'm aware it's still largely canon, perhaps minus the talking rat and I assume that mechanically the agib in his chest keeping him alive would be reworked to make sense with Unsounded mechanics. I don't believe it's likely we ever see this in Unsounded's sequel, but my understanding is that's what happens to himself long after.
Anonymous No.149929186 [Report] >>149929224 >>149929233
>>149928801
Which comic has the reverse sounding?
Anonymous No.149929224 [Report]
>>149929186
It was a written story. I think it's on Patreon
Anonymous No.149929233 [Report] >>149929322
>>149929167
I don't see why becoming more emotionally and mentally whole would mean becoming at odds with who she is physically. Khette, the far more stunted of the two, isn't just occasionally insecure: she fully wants to inhabit the body of a man, so she is big, and strong, and tall, and powerful. So that she's the scariest thing in the dark and no one would ever dare repeat the crimes of those priests against her. But it's still just a means to an end. For Sette, she is happy with who she is and only ever occasionally insecure, specifically about being human or not aging. But Ashley has been clear repeatedly that who she is feels right to her and this is shown time and again in comic: how she talks about her tail, her claws, and more.
>>149929186
A short story she originally posted to Tumblr and had to move to Patreon (I think) because it was getting her Tumblr flagged as adult. Basically Ilganyag used control of the silver filaments running through Bastion's body to roughly fuck him from the inside out. Would say it's on par with the Ruck x Bastion comic.
Anonymous No.149929241 [Report] >>149929285 >>149929297
Anyone know any artists that would take a Sette and Jivi commission? I want gentle femdom and clawplay
Anonymous No.149929243 [Report] >>149929280
>>149928801
>>149928864
Ordinarily I'd say this is a more American perception, given how commentary on sex and love is a pretty regular inclusion in the artistic traditions in other countries. Franco-Belgian comics are full of fucking. I'm currently reading one of the more well known works in my own country's literary canon, and it's partly about a massive autist's obsession with his waifu. But American culture recently spawned Romantasy, which is basically smut masquerading as Fantasy, and that shit is insanely popular.
Anonymous No.149929280 [Report] >>149929446
>>149929243
It's not really the sex I mean. Sure, that happens a lot in all sorts of media. It's how unabashedly kinky it is. And to go further, Ashley has openly talked about her interest in BL, guro, monsters, and, fairly long ago ITT at least, bugs. It's not all Duane and Leysa see the opera, or baby's first BDSM. It's unashamedly fetish shit running throughout the comic. I guess the best comparison I could make is probably early Wonder Woman. It's hard to think about now given how accepted elements (at least) of BDSM are in the mainstream, but once upon a time it used to be terribly taboo and people outside of gay circles adapted similar strategies to handkerchief code to communicate interest.
Anonymous No.149929285 [Report] >>149929297 >>149930746
>>149929241
shipping aside I think Jivi straight up finds sette ugly.

Some contrived stuff would have to happen for them to bang.
Anonymous No.149929297 [Report] >>149929325 >>149929330
>>149929241
I don't understand how you can like porn that isn't in character.
>>149929285
Yeah they're absolutely not into each other at all.
Anonymous No.149929322 [Report] >>149929350
>>149929233
I mean, it's hard to say how someone who is currently comfortable as the child she is will feel about being stuck that way as she matures.
I doubt she'd ever share the exact same insecurities as Khette.
Anonymous No.149929325 [Report] >>149929366 >>149929366 >>149930770
>>149929297
>Yeah they're absolutely not into each other at all.
sette would desu. but she's too busy being a goblin to have real sexual thoughts
Anonymous No.149929330 [Report] >>149929366 >>149932393
>>149929297
50/50 that just like the Duane/Sette ship it's self-inserting.
Anonymous No.149929350 [Report] >>149930498
>>149929322
To be honest, I don't think she will mature the way you're thinking of it. Grow as an individual? Sure, she's capable of that. Mature? Nope, "brains don't come in" and besides that Sette is a created being. She isn't intended to grow past a certain age physiologically, so she doesn't. Part of that physiological growth would be in the brain. She's fairly precocious given her life experiences, and she's honestly quite clever and perceptive, but she's the world isn't going to ever see someone as clever and perceptive as she is with the mentality of a 20, 30, or 40 year old. And not just because predators don't die old.
Anonymous No.149929366 [Report] >>149930788 >>149932316
>>149929325
100%, the only valid Sette ship is money. Maybe pocket watches as a distant second.
>>149929325
That's exactly why she wouldn't. The only person she thinks is attractive is herself.
>>149929330
I will say Ashley does feed things quite often with how she writes about them. It's pretty funny.
Anonymous No.149929408 [Report] >>149929441
>>149927425
I don't think we'll find out what's up with Bastion until next book, and even if we do, it will be a teaser in the last few pages of him being stuck somewhere with Paul.
Anonymous No.149929441 [Report]
>>149929408
Imagine being stuck naked and alone with your ex, except he's still hot and in the prime of his life and you're a balding, middle aged man. And also you're incredibly flustered and confused because for the first time in years he kissed you so that you wouldn't kill him.
Anonymous No.149929446 [Report] >>149929561
>>149929280
I suppose you're right about that. But the kink does stay relatively hidden in the comic itself. Sure, we know about it because we're generally aware of things Ashley has done or said outside of the comic, but something similar could be true for other media. I'm pretty sure I'd be able to recognize Ashley as pretty perverted just from the comic alone, but I also ping that way with other creators. And that said, there's a lot of furry creators out there where you know what they're about at a glance.
Anonymous No.149929453 [Report]
>>149927301 (OP)
>well, two Sette's is too many, it's cosmically reckless and irresponsible
Damn Jivi, are you reading the comic too?
Anonymous No.149929463 [Report] >>149929516 >>149929530 >>149929592 >>149930800 >>149931303 >>149932617 >>149936841
People are calling her Khette but she is Tirna, right?
Back when I browsed here a few years ago, people would say one of the male gods was actually a sky whale, or that Ilganyag might be Tirna, stuff like that.

Also, I remember seeing Khettes shillouette years ago from Settes first trip to the Khert. People thought it was Sette herself since time works weird in there. Anyone remember that?
Anonymous No.149929473 [Report] >>149929561
>>149928611
Oh, could it be that the fetus forest is specifically from the unborn babies of women who were made sterile by Black Tongue cum?
Anonymous No.149929516 [Report]
>>149929463
Her name is always Sette, I think. The character of Tirna seems to be a mythologization with her and the betrayer bird mixed together.
Anonymous No.149929519 [Report]
>>149928611
That bird ain't right
Anonymous No.149929530 [Report] >>149929602
>>149929463
She's probably the inspiration for the "fallen to earth, made to walk in the shoes of man, died for our sins" part of the Tirna myth (and maybe part of the physical description with the half-red body) but she's not Tirna in a literal sense.
Anonymous No.149929561 [Report] >>149931273
>>149929446
I guess if you don't read the secondary material there's less of it, and the fan service becomes a little more simple. But I don't think you could really say she hides it either. She makes canon (and sometimes less) porn in her downtime and even takes commissions for it.
>And that said, there's a lot of furry creators out there where you know what they're about at a glance.
Sure. But I would still say that's a little different. Those are usually relying on their niche as porn adjacent to get traction, or are generally only popular inside their niche of the furry fandom. There are exceptions to this of course where some of those creators do break into a wider audience, but I wouldn't say that's the norm.
>>149929473
About two threads ago an Anon posted a part of the script that was cut from Ash's Patreon. It's because of the weeping plague, it prevents souls reincarnating. If you die of the plague you wind up there. It was cut dialog between Ilganyag and Sette.
Anonymous No.149929592 [Report]
>>149929463
>People are calling her Khette but she is Tirna, right?
No. She's not. This is somewhat left open to interpretation, but I wouldn't say she's Tirna any more than Sette is. You could fairly say that she stylized herself off Tirna, and that Ilganyag and the man stylized her off Tirna. You could maybe even make the case that she influenced some small aspects of the myth of Tirna in this instance of the timeline. But she's not actually Tirna. She's just a magical girl who was betrayed by her brother and sacrificed.

She tore out enough of her memories to forget who it was that she is. She remembered who she represented, but not her family nor much of her life. That's why she only starts calling herself Tirna near the end.
>people would say one of the male gods was actually a sky whale, or that Ilganyag might be Tirna, stuff like that.
Still the case. We're getting to see the typhoon whale and wandering root that form the basis for the male twins next book. And we've gotten to see Yerta (Shaensigin) and Tirna (Ilganyag) with this. One important bit of evidence about Tirna, by the way, is how Ssael wrote of her and then mysteriously stopped. And how we know the difference before and after the rewrite he went from close co-conspirator with her to disgusted and hateful. If they actually inspired the Gefendur myths themselves though? Who's to say. The khert is obviously created, and the senets acknowledge there were gods. But they don't remember them. I think, though, it seems obvious that whatever created the world, the personification of the Gefendur gods was heavily influenced by our four big senets.
>Also, I remember seeing Khettes shillouette years ago from Settes first trip to the Khert. People thought it was Sette herself since time works weird in there. Anyone remember that?
Was looking at the index page last week and it reminded me of this. One of the previews for the chapter is Khette, or at least a Sette.
Anonymous No.149929602 [Report]
>>149929530
>Tirrna's half red body
>Coming from anything but Ilganyag
I think she (and the rest of the world) got that from her mom. Remember, Ilganyag also once walked the earth before being imprisoned in the khert.
Anonymous No.149929628 [Report] >>149929644
>>149927301 (OP)
sette looking mighty mikalish in panel 5
Anonymous No.149929644 [Report]
>>149929628
Panel 6 would have broken chapter one Duane.
Anonymous No.149929677 [Report] >>149929711
>>149929125
>bro you already kissed her
wait the hell is this slut saying, when did that happen
Anonymous No.149929711 [Report] >>149929766
>>149929677
They platonically kissed each other on the lips to try to make a happy memory to not get killed by the eels. I too am living in my best world where that didn't happen because it does not read as platonic but their relationship does.
Anonymous No.149929766 [Report] >>149929850
>>149929711
Oh. I forgot about that part.
Anonymous No.149929850 [Report]
>>149929766
That's the spirit.
Anonymous No.149930450 [Report] >>149930813
>>149927301 (OP)
Jivi's face in that last panel lol
>oh no she hasn't changed at all
Anonymous No.149930465 [Report]
>>149928801
Wait a minute! This isn't Lady Ilganyag! This is just Ashley Cope's dubcon fetish!
Anonymous No.149930498 [Report] >>149933282
>>149929350
NTA but I believe it would be beneficial for Sette's brains to come in for her to fully understand the situation she's in and other characters' motivations. Being mentally a child forever is a handicap in the adult world, no matter how clever and perceptive that kid is.
Anonymous No.149930568 [Report]
>>149927425
Why would she do that? Bastion isn't useful to her any more.
Anonymous No.149930588 [Report] >>149930668 >>149933282
>>149927301 (OP)
Sette assumes they're there for Duane because Duane is important to Sette, but the only Alds we've seen that want Duane back are Lemuel and Bastion, and neither one of them believed Duane even still existed until recently. And Duane's role in Sessine's plan seems to have been to betray and help murder Sette since her Jak was out of the picture.

Might just be the case that Sonorie has decided to pick up the threads of Bell's collusion with Aldish traitors to break Alderode once and for all. Considering the prisoners she's taken, and considering that Bell's conspiracy was basically puppeted by her from the beginning, it's likely she at least knows about the Aldish rebels by now.
Anonymous No.149930593 [Report]
>>149928561
kek
Anonymous No.149930668 [Report] >>149930824
>>149930588
>Duane's role in Sessine's plan seems to have been to betray and help murder Sette since her Jak was out of the picture.
What? No, anon, Duane was needed to open the way to the khert.
Anonymous No.149930671 [Report]
>>149928972
She basically just underestimated Bell's freak, since she badly underestimated Ruck. But considering her controlled behavior up to and including Ethelmilk, she was expecting something that bad to pop off there.
Anonymous No.149930688 [Report] >>149933282
>>149929127
It's always been interesting to see nautical slang creep into Sette's patois, like 'beat his better self to quarters.' Reminds you that sailing and sailors have been a heavy, heavy cultural influence even on Sharte landsmen.
Anonymous No.149930746 [Report]
>>149929285
Someone should tell Cope to stop ship-teasing them, then.
Anonymous No.149930770 [Report] >>149931124 >>149932316 >>149933282
>>149929325
>sette would desu. but she's too busy being a goblin to have real sexual thoughts
There's been a handful of times where Sette very obviously found Jivi attractive, and his nastiness got under her skin literally more than any other character besides Starfish, so it seems like she has more than a normal regard for him. But she's asexual, so I dunno how that works for her.

He's notably one of the only characters that Sette seemed to actually want to personally impress.
Anonymous No.149930788 [Report]
>>149929366
>I will say Ashley does feed things quite often with how she writes about them. It's pretty funny.
It's possible that in the same way Sette is permanently a child, she'll never actually grow beyond infatuations more complex than a childish crush. The brain hardware simply isn't there and never will be.
Anonymous No.149930800 [Report]
>>149929463
None of the paper gods map fully onto a senet beast alone, but you can definitely see that ideas for them were cribbed *from* specific senet beasts.

I think Khette styles herself as Tirna because that's who she identifies with the most. Khette has had no interaction with the world since she was ritually murdered, and before then, she had nothing that marked her out as Tirna-like.

The obvious muse for the creation of Tirna is Sessine, who is just as dangerous as the mythological Tirna and then some.
Anonymous No.149930813 [Report]
>>149930450
Beats existential terror, I suppose.
Anonymous No.149930824 [Report]
>>149930668
He still takes the Jak role at the end by having his meltdown over Sonorie and fucking off, leaving Sette vulnerable.

Granted, Sette helps that along.

And regardless of which of Duane's roles in Sessine's plans you choose to emphasize, he was still her piece on the board, not Alderode's.
Anonymous No.149930829 [Report] >>149930851
Jivi fronting with that "We?" like he wouldn't rush off to save a particularly slow rabbit from trying to cross the road in a heartbeat.
Anonymous No.149930851 [Report]
>>149930829
Jivi doesn't particularly like Duane. I don't think he's gotten beyond seeing him as scary, weird, and personally unpleasant.
Anonymous No.149931124 [Report] >>149933282
>>149930770
Tsundere platonic friendcrush
Anonymous No.149931273 [Report] >>149931372 >>149932069 >>149932831 >>149932996 >>149933428
>>149929561
Interesting, so the weeping plague was manufactured by Tittybird?
Anonymous No.149931303 [Report]
>>149929463
I don't think so, the Gefendur faith long predates First Sette's introduction to the world.
Anonymous No.149931372 [Report]
>>149931273
It is heavily implied that that's the case. Technically it was probably created by one of her dogsbodies in the Black Tongues. Can't imagine how upset Bastion would be to find this out. Or how horrified Duane would be.
Anonymous No.149932069 [Report] >>149934297
>>149931273
Who else would be behind the weird pymaric illness that spreads through souls if not Tittybird?
Anonymous No.149932316 [Report] >>149933358 >>149933428 >>149934781
>>149930770
>>149929366
I think it goes like this:

Jivi likes conventionally attractive girls but doesn't find her like -physically- ugly. They are even agreeable on an emotional level. Jivi has shown he enjoys Sette's wordplay.
But Sette's been such a cunt to Jiki in particular she absolutely tanked his image of her and he cant help see her as a brat. No amount of dolling up or "she makes me laugh" is gonna break that spell.

Sette isn't purely asexual. She's aware of her feminity even if she only uses it to mesugaki grown men.
But we know nothing about what she actually likes in men. Jivi is literally the third male in her entire life that she hasn't seen as an *enemy*. The other being "daddy" and "daddy surrogate". Even Duane was little more than a tool until he understood her enough to match her wordplay, basically causing Sette to imprint so hard on him.

Only way I'd see it work is if they go on yet another fucked up adventure that forces them to drop mask and go "fuck it, kissing is better than dying alone in a ditch"
Anonymous No.149932393 [Report] >>149935385
>>149929330
>it's self-inserting.
who the FUCK would even waifu sette
Anonymous No.149932576 [Report] >>149932843
>>149927425
Either it's a Aldish Gefendur ship (orange is their color, although I don't think it's too likely considering they hate Cresce as much as any other Ald does) or its a ship associated with the March (who are confirmed to be appearing next book)
Anonymous No.149932617 [Report]
>>149929463
>People are calling her Khette but she is Tirna, right?
She herself being a sacrificed twin means that Gefendur practices predated her and not the other way around.
So no, she was influenced by Tirna and not the other way around.
Anonymous No.149932831 [Report]
>>149931273
I'm not convinced by that.
Anonymous No.149932843 [Report]
>>149932576
>Either it's a Aldish Gefendur ship (orange is their color, although I don't think it's too likely considering they hate Cresce as much as any other Ald does)
It's pretty easy to imagine therre would be some among the Gefendur Aldish who would work with Cresce if it meant the extermination of the Ssaelit.
Anonymous No.149932996 [Report] >>149933019 >>149933061 >>149933101 >>149933395
>>149931273
Question: were the captive souls mostly souds or other alds? I remembered them to be mostly souds, which begs the question: Do you have to be reincarnated into the same area in which you previously incarnated even if you aren't captured by the dammakhert? Once a soud, always a soud?
Anonymous No.149933019 [Report] >>149933099 >>149933101
>>149932996
How would you tell if a soul was a soud or not? It'd be interesting to know what the Aldish reincarnation doctrine says about the castes though.
Anonymous No.149933061 [Report]
>>149932996
I don't see why that would be the case, the Souds are only so small in number because they suffered a lot of intentional ethnic cleansing and they can't repopulate their numbers like the other castes through Dammakhert expansion. The trapped baby souls probably have no bearing on their population.
Anonymous No.149933099 [Report]
>>149933019
I'm not sure, but Ilganyag could given the massive population disparities in Alderode.
Anonymous No.149933101 [Report] >>149933139
>>149932996
>>149933019
Soud are a minority with a bunch of recessive genes, including blonde hair, green eyes, and immunity from the Dammakhert. I'm not sure if that last one is ACTUALLY genetic, or the result of ancient Khert fuckery (Ssael/Rortide exempting the ancient Tains?) but it behaves as if it's inherited. I'm pretty sure mixing a soud and any other caste just makes a copper.

I don't think there's any inherent tie between souls and Soudishness (souls are just complete sets of memories), but I could be entirely misinformed.
Anonymous No.149933139 [Report] >>149933259
>>149933101
>I'm pretty sure mixing a soud and any other caste just makes a copper
You mean a bronze. So we know caste doesn't pass down in souls because souls get eaten up for their memories, but it would be interesting if the Aldish thought it did.
Anonymous No.149933259 [Report]
>>149933139
Yeah I meant bronze, whoops
Anonymous No.149933282 [Report] >>149933413 >>149933673
>>149930498
Beneficial, sure. But I don't think it's going to happen. Sette stopped aging, she wasn't programmed to be able to do that. She is a kid forever and that's something Ashley has heavily telegraphed. Iirc she talked about it herself as well.
>>149930588
Remember, she learned from Timofey reading Nary's letter to her and the recorded message on it that her actual job is to escort Duane to Alderode. This is the job that Bastion hired Nary to do. She knows that's where he's supposed to go, and that she was supposed to take him to Cresce to do it. It's honestly a fairly logical leap given the information she has. Particularly when you consider the two countries are warring and have fine so for years.
>>149930688
Yep. And Sette herself has been said to hang down by the docks around the sailor so she would have had even more exposure than the average Sharte. And though Jivi is an upstanding gentleman, he's been raised by a fearsome privateer that leans somewhat heavily into piracy and other evils. I'm sure some of her crew is even worse. He's certainly been influenced by criminals in a similar way to a typical Sharteshanian, even if he for the most part tries to reject those influences.
>>149930770
She likes his heroism and go-getter attitude and wanted him in her gang. Remember, he made a really excellent first impression on her when he was willing to run into danger instead of away. She was recruiting, that's all.
>>149931124
Nothing tsundere about it. She was very sincere in her appreciation of him, even tolerating several rebuffs until he made his dislike of her personal. That's when it got ugly between them. But now that they've sorted that out, she's able to be friends with him properly.
Anonymous No.149933358 [Report]
>>149932316
>But we know nothing about what she actually likes in men.
Yeah we do, at least one thing. Every time Jivi has done something manly (standing up to Starfish, diving down through the river to save Iori, etc.) she's shown enthusiastic approval. She pretty clearly likes daring heroics out of dudes.
Anonymous No.149933395 [Report]
>>149932996
>Question: were the captive souls mostly souds or other alds?
Mostly Ssaelit, going by flashback content, which is why you had the likes of Bodie suggesting they use the plague on the Geffies. An idea I had is that Sessine is deliberately taking Ssaelit souls out of the mix for some reason, perhaps in anticipation of her great reset, before cycling them back in. Which makes some sense, considering she and Ssael had SOMETHING going on.
Anonymous No.149933413 [Report] >>149933560
>>149933282
>She was recruiting, that's all.
I think it's a little more than that. The only other people we've seen Sette so clearly want approval from are her father, Duane, and Sara. And we know they're very special to her beyond being merely useful or cool.
Anonymous No.149933428 [Report] >>149933545
>>149931273
It's not stated in the exchange if it is. And it would be a particularly cruel act if she did. But certainly, I always assumed the fetus forest was her own. And it could potentially have been designed to try to undo the mistake she and the man made, or to further human 'immortality' by collecting whole souls. Or it could just be because of her weird maternal instinct but extreme antinatalism. She's got lots of motives.
>>149932316
>Sette isn't purely asexual.
She is. Word of God.
>She's aware of her feminity even if she only uses it to mesugaki grown men.
This is not what asexual means. If you were homeless and the only way to get your next meal was sucking dick or flirting with with a guy, you would do it and it wouldn't make you gay. She is a Sharteshanian. Her da runs a brothel, her cousin ran one too. She's been exposed to sexuality plenty of times. Her da even lectured her to not let tits get in the way of life's grander ambitions. And if someone is standing between her and her ambition? She might try to use that against them. But the extent of that has been to pose as someone's wife or a prostitute so that she could get where she didn't belong.
Anonymous No.149933545 [Report] >>149933591 >>149934321
>>149933428
>Word of God.
i don't trust god to not write with one hand on her clit.
Anonymous No.149933560 [Report]
>>149933413
I agree with her wanting Duane, her father, and Sara's approval. But I don't really see that from Jivi for the most part. She saw promise in him and wanted him in her gang, because he did have some really great traits for a Sharteshanian to admire. But he responded by having a tantrum that someone wanted him for a life of crime and harshly targeting her insecurities. She wants to be accepted as a human, and to not be picked on for her body, for not reading, and for not aging (though Jivi never learned this one). But I don't think it was wanting to be accepted specifically by him. Moreso by humanity. At that point I think she pretty firmly hated him, and fairly. She had been nothing but sincerely kind to him and he had responded by throwing it back in her face.

As far as seeing more in him, had he been open to her approach from the get to she might have wanted friendship pretty quickly. But, importantly, that's all.
Anonymous No.149933591 [Report] >>149933640 >>149933721
>>149933545
You shouldn't. But Sette isn't a promiscuous pretty boy being tortured, nor is she the monster doing the torturing.
Anonymous No.149933640 [Report] >>149933654 >>149933721
>>149933591
Yeah, but she's still human. We joke on the fae aspect all the time but ultimately Sette dreams of a normal (criminal boss from sharte) woman's life. She wants to follow the rites without being seen as sacrifice food, she wants to be seen as a woman, she wants to be respected. God-soul revelation aside, gangster brat aside, Sette wishes to be normal. The twin temple arc is really the biggest hint for this
Anonymous No.149933654 [Report] >>149933811
>>149933640
>The twin temple arc is really the biggest hint for this
Meaning to say, it reveals sette's more fundamental motivation and... it's all typical tween girl stuff.
Anonymous No.149933673 [Report] >>149933721
>>149933282
We will agree to disagree because I am in favor of Sette breaking her limiter. "You are X and you will be X forever" sounds like senet beast talk.
Anonymous No.149933721 [Report] >>149933779
>>149933591
Also honestly I don't think Ashley is great at figuring out what telegraphs sexually at times. The cover of the original book one? The kiss between Jivi and Sette? Her tastes are so out of whack with the norm that she doesn't get that a considerable portion of people would consider the first to be sexualizing and the latter to be hinting at romance. Add onto that that she's been role-playing these characters for years so of course she knows their intentions and how they feel about one another, and there are occasional moments where she doesn't think she needs to show it.
>>149933640
She wants to be a badass crime lord with a heart of gold, and not worry about being sacrificed, sure. And she definitely wants to be seen as a human. She has insecurities. But normal? A woman? Ashley has been really clear repeatedly in and out of universe that Sette is happy with who she is. She's her own biggest fan. And the only thing she wants is the world to accept that.
>>149933673
That's fair. I have my own share of things I ignore the word of God on. And Ashley is very for interpreting Unsounded through death of author. If you don't like some of her canon, ignore it.
Anonymous No.149933779 [Report] >>149933811
>>149933721
>She's her own biggest fan.
Sure that's why she crumbled like she was made of chinesium the milisecond she was left alone with girls her age
Anonymous No.149933811 [Report]
>>149933779
Having the desire for friends and regular human acceptance doesn't mean what I said isn't true, and doesn't mean that she wants to grow up and he a woman. Like you say here, >>149933654 she's a typical tween. But she's a typical tween who likes who she is.
Anonymous No.149934297 [Report]
>>149932069
It's quite the coincidence that it happened to be just what Bastion needed to successfully create Duane, isn't it?
Anonymous No.149934321 [Report]
>>149933545
Sette is going to stay asexual since she's Ashley's self-insert, in a way.
Anonymous No.149934781 [Report] >>149935061
>>149932316
>She's aware of her feminity even if she only uses it to mesugaki grown men.
Hold still while I gas you.
Anonymous No.149934860 [Report]
I enjoy the extra material Ashley posts up elsewhere, but we seriously need to crucify Word of God posters ITT.
Anonymous No.149934885 [Report] >>149934902 >>149934964
>Show me the real Aldish caste system
Anonymous No.149934902 [Report] >>149934912
>>149934885
>I said the real Aldish caste system
Anonymous No.149934912 [Report] >>149937225
>>149934902
>Perfection
Anonymous No.149934964 [Report] >>149935045
>>149934885
I can picture this poster being put up in Crescian elementary schools.
Anonymous No.149935045 [Report]
>>149934964
It was on the walls of the city in Ulestry.
Anonymous No.149935061 [Report]
>>149934781
it's *literally* the definition of mesugaki
>OH NO HE WANTS ME BUTT
Anonymous No.149935152 [Report] >>149935169
The Aldish caste system or, to speak of it in more accurate terms, the phenotypical influence of the Dammakhert, is the kind of thing a Black Tongue-minded guy like me could get real obsessed with.
Anonymous No.149935169 [Report] >>149935362
>>149935152
>phenotypical influence
the khert dictates what physical properties matter has.
if ssael was bored enough he could have turned humans into entirely different beings. i'm not entirely certain he didn't invent lions outright.
Anonymous No.149935362 [Report] >>149935515 >>149935843 >>149938497
>>149935169
>the khert dictates what physical properties matter has
But that's just what's so interesting about it, my research-minded friend. Kasslyne DOESN'T (or is severely unlikely to) have the kind of genetics we now about on IRL Earth. And yet the general populace progresses in very similar ways: people might be taller or shorter, more or less intelligent, have more or less shade of red in their hair. The inheritance of traits via children seems to operate in a very similar way to the way we know genetics work for the majority of Kasslyne's population.

But then, in Alderode: you get assigned one of 6 castes. 5 of those castes have an inbuilt connection to the Dammakhert the 6th doesn't share. All of those castes have their phenotype influenced by the Dammakhert in ways that *we* would associate with genetics: Plats are more likely to be ametropic, *always* have pale skin, *always* have white-blonde hair, die young. Is melanin expression a thing in Kasslyne? Does melanin even exist in the setting?

Being in an Aldish caste flattens out your phenotype to one of 6 possible states with far less than natural variation allowed. But we know that's solely down to the Dammakhert because non-Alds have Aldish caste babies and Alds who flee have non-Aldish babies. Who follow whatever passes for the normal rules of genetic inheritance in Kasslyne. So are there genes, after all? If there are the Dammakhert doesn't change them, because you go outside of it and they seem to express themselves normally. But inside it forces you into a particular expression. That's totally fascinating. What else, beyond the immediately observable, is restricted or flattened by the Aldish khert? I MUST know.
Anonymous No.149935385 [Report]
>>149932393
Indeed.
Anonymous No.149935515 [Report] >>149935534
>>149935362
If you think about the khert as an operating system, then inheritance is a method that takes the mother and father's traits as input and, from that, determines the child's traits.
The dammakhert overrides that method to enforce the caste system. If neither parent has a caste trait, then it defaults to one of them or randomly selects it (I forget what castes the child of non-Alds can be).
And when Alds are out of the dammakhert then a non-Ald child is born because the khert's method isn't able to recognize the caste traits.
Anonymous No.149935534 [Report] >>149935556 >>149935607 >>149935834
>>149935515
>I forget what castes the child of non-Alds can be
Any.
Anonymous No.149935556 [Report] >>149935607
>>149935534
Except Souds.
Anonymous No.149935607 [Report] >>149935639 >>149936072
>>149935534
Okay, I wasn't sure if coppers weren't an option as I could see them not wanting new coppers to random pop up.

>>149935556
Pissmops aren't Alds.
Anonymous No.149935639 [Report]
>>149935607
I imagine the gacha rate for coppers is lower.
Anonymous No.149935834 [Report] >>149936797 >>149938178
>>149935534
>get raped
>kid is born a copper/jet and he will forget your face in 150 years
>kid is born a plat/silver and you will likely live to see him age quickly and die
>kid is born a bronze; yuck he's a common bronze
>no bond with your rapechild anyway because he will in time join the fellows in caste
There's no winning.
Anonymous No.149935843 [Report]
>>149935362
nono. genetics are very much a thing. Senets can't edit the khert, Lady I needed Ssael for that. Otherwise she explicitely says she guided the evolution of humanity into it's current form.
Anonymous No.149936072 [Report] >>149936227 >>149936558 >>149936744 >>149936998
>>149935607
Soud were almost certainly intended to be the master race and the "Aldish" servitors, but something got fucked up.
Anonymous No.149936227 [Report]
>>149936072
IDK, getting 3-6 times normal lifespan doesn't seem like something you'd give to servitors.
Anonymous No.149936558 [Report]
>>149936072
I feel like they were more a break that Rortide gave Ssael and his people, operating under the assumption that Ssael was instrumental in setting up the Dammakhert that is.

Pymary was new and powerful but very hard to use, Rortide and the nobles would probably prefer just to have 400 year lives and have people do pymary for them, Rortide was already doing that. I could see Ssael pitching the ethnic Tains that survived being the troubleshooters. If shit goes wrong with the Dammakhert you don't want everyone fucking dying. We saw how the Etalarche curse was exploited to drive the strike force mad. Shit can get fucked so having a small group that is immune to the Dammakhert's effects is pretty advantageous. The fact that you need both parents to be Soud to get there and the Dammakhert won't make anymore when a non-Ald has a kid speaks to me of a deliberate decision to keep the group small. Which can work for the elite Caste but also as a way to keep the special operators from growing too populated.
Anonymous No.149936744 [Report]
>>149936072
I like to think Ssael had some foreknowledge that another soud and future Ssaelit would be key to fixing the great fuckup The Man and tittybird created and spared the soud as a whole for that reason.
Anonymous No.149936797 [Report] >>149938014 >>149944331
>>149935834
>>kid is born a bronze; yuck he's a common bronze
Pretty sure that Bronzes only come about through intercaste mixing.
Anonymous No.149936841 [Report] >>149937181
>>149929463
Just found the pic of Khette I saved in 2020 which I called "bigfoot". yes I think Khette is a khert cryptid
Anonymous No.149936916 [Report] >>149936948 >>149937044
every time I see the name of the comic I can only assume it's about people removing long rod shaped objects from their urethra.
Anonymous No.149936948 [Report] >>149937124 >>149942072
>>149936916
Boy, did you miss the right threat to be making that comment.
Anonymous No.149936998 [Report]
>>149936072
They seem to be the dhammakhert Control group caste.
Anonymous No.149937044 [Report] >>149937124
>>149936916
That's correct yes.
Anonymous No.149937124 [Report] >>149937210 >>149938014
>>149936948
>>149937044
lmao looking into it and discovering that sounding is indeed a concept in the comics made me irl milknose from laughing.
Anonymous No.149937181 [Report] >>149937208
>>149936841
Imagine some researcher sounding the khert and picking up Khette.
Anonymous No.149937208 [Report]
>>149937181
>I tell you! I saw it! The khert is full of little girls with tails!
Guy seconds away from being burned by the Aldish Inquisition.
Anonymous No.149937210 [Report]
>>149937124
It's still a nautical term in use today because there's really no other word that means the same thing. It's the coomers that stole it, but most normal people don't know the degenerate usage anyway.
Anonymous No.149937225 [Report]
>>149934912
>mfw they're even transing the metals now
Anonymous No.149937235 [Report] >>149937271 >>149938014
I went up to this comic's table at a convention thinking it was Cope and boy, were both me and the artist confused
Anonymous No.149937271 [Report] >>149945384
>>149937235
I mean, I assume they had art up, and you can clearly tell that isn't the same artist, and probably they had the name displayed as well. So really it was just you that was the idiot.
Anonymous No.149937338 [Report] >>149937421 >>149938860
shit comic rock the soys

you get words words words

will post a funny one later
Anonymous No.149937421 [Report] >>149939645
>>149937338
this one wasn't fun at all
Anonymous No.149938014 [Report]
>>149936797
I think that's just a stereotype.
>>149937124
It's a great comic. And it even has officially made (un)sounding porn. Though that's not what the point of the original name is. Give it a read!
>>149937235
I hope she starts doing conventions again. Didn't she suggest that she might when talking about what to do with the old, leftover books and merch. Or did I hallucinate that?
Anonymous No.149938178 [Report] >>149938449
>>149935834
>capture an aldish city under the dammakhert
>establish a captive breeding population
>work out what the gacha rates are for each caste
>start offering 10 pulls for extortionate rates so people can have their own plat or copper slaves
Anonymous No.149938449 [Report] >>149939050
>>149938178
We know it's random, but do they? Could be they might think disposition of the baby/parents, or what the mother eats, or other factors might affect who gets what. We have those sorts of superstitions in our would about gender, why not there?
Anonymous No.149938497 [Report] >>149939106
>>149935362
My point is the standard physics exist and are the default state of kasslyne. This includes biochemistry, DNA and evolution.

Now, if you became a wizard, and can literally copypaste the physical properties of object A and slap them in object B

If you became a superwizard with near-root access aided by a sentient, independent fae, you could actually program the khert to operate with new fiats. Such as "there's the dhammakhert and everything human born in it gets replaced by one of these class templates. And my blonde niggas get a free pass"
Anonymous No.149938860 [Report]
>>149937338
fuck you I like the words
Anonymous No.149939050 [Report]
>>149938449
>We know it's random, but do they?
That would become apparent through my breeding experiments.
Anonymous No.149939106 [Report]
>>149938497
Nora posting
Anonymous No.149939645 [Report] >>149940583 >>149941481
>>149937421
yeah normal thog boring
Anonymous No.149940583 [Report]
>>149939645
These are impressively good. Stick to this style for sure.
Anonymous No.149941481 [Report]
>>149939645
yikes
Anonymous No.149942072 [Report] >>149944736
>>149936948
Will Lemuel survive with his dong intact? Is that mysterious Aldish ship someone sent to retrieve him? The people demand answers.
Anonymous No.149944037 [Report]
>>149927541
Weird collar
Anonymous No.149944331 [Report]
>>149936797

AFAIK the bronze caste was always a thing but their numbers have definitely grown due to intercaste relationships being more likely to result in bronzes.
Anonymous No.149944736 [Report]
>>149942072
Do you think he's getting prison raped in between pain sessions?
Anonymous No.149945384 [Report]
>>149937271
They usually have table guides for conventions like that so I can see how it'd be confusing at first