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Anonymous No.149930206 >>149930216 >>149930223 >>149930228 >>149930233 >>149930249 >>149930280 >>149930443 >>149930444 >>149930809
Why is CG "on twos" the new standard?
It's weird that as in gaming an obsession with 60fps as an universal necessity has increased through the years, in Animation a choppier rate has become popular even for movies that don't to try to imitate a hand-drawn look otherwise.
Anonymous No.149930213 >>149930317 >>149930457
Into the Niggerverse and its framerate has been a disaster on the animation industry
Anonymous No.149930216 >>149930304 >>149930317
>>149930206 (OP)
We had this little spiderman movie that came out a few years ago. Go look at that and you'll figure it out eventually.
Anonymous No.149930223 >>149930487
>>149930206 (OP)
It's Kinga neat tho
Plus the same studio made both Kpop and spider-nigger
Anonymous No.149930228 >>149930234 >>149930256 >>149930364
>>149930206 (OP)
Why do people dick ride this garbage movie so much? K-pop is cringe
Anonymous No.149930233
>>149930206 (OP)
I don’t know but has anyone tried watching this on one of those TVs with a “video smoothing” setting that does motion interpolation between frames? I bet it’s a trip.
Anonymous No.149930234 >>149930250
>>149930228
It's better than lightyear and a lot of other new pixar movies
Anonymous No.149930249 >>149930258
>>149930206 (OP)
I at least its more fun than gaming's obsession with 60fps and realistic graphics, like why the fuck do you need this much detail on grass and trees? Most people won't be able to run it on max settings anyway
Anonymous No.149930250
>>149930234
Contracting aids is better then lightyear but turning red still mogs k-slop in both quality and sex appeal
Anonymous No.149930256
>>149930228
Coombrains fapping to waifus.
Anonymous No.149930258 >>149930265 >>149930302
>>149930249
Why cant zoomers and millennioids get off their vidya obsession anyways? The way gaymen has taken over every facet of culture in my generation now is sickening
Anonymous No.149930265 >>149930278 >>149930279
>>149930258
It's a popular hobby that appeals to the lowest common denominator.
Anonymous No.149930278 >>149930386
>>149930265
>saying this on /co/
>where people read capeshit comics and watch children’s cartoons
Anon, please stop putting windows through in our glass house.
Anonymous No.149930279 >>149930311 >>149930312
>>149930265
Explains why so many people i interact with in my age range are social retards because theyre scum sucking /v/ermin
Anonymous No.149930280
>>149930206 (OP)
YIIK was ahead of its time
Anonymous No.149930302 >>149930319
>>149930258
Im sorry, but you cannot escape one of the most popular computer based pass Times ON A WEB SITE it's like going to a beach in the middle of the summer and complainging that there are people sunbathing instead of swimming
Anonymous No.149930304 >>149930349
>>149930216
doesn't really make sense. Spiderverse is a massive flop and a dramatic money loss for Sony.
If they had to imitate a successful show shit would look like Miraculous Ladybug, or Frozen
Anonymous No.149930311 >>149930322
>>149930279
Your hatred is dumb and irrational
I do hope you get better
Anonymous No.149930312 >>149930322
>>149930279
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
Anonymous No.149930317 >>149930322 >>149930349
>>149930213
>>149930216
That's the point; Into the Seethingchudverse made a labored point of going for a 2D-inspired graphic look, and the on twos thing also makes sense for painterly stuff like what modern Dreamworks does or TMNT Mutant Mayhem, but Kpop DH uses basically a straight generic CG look except for the occasional action or comedy shot modeled after anime visuals.
Anonymous No.149930319 >>149930496
>>149930302
Its not just online tho, i cant escape vidya slop even in real life either. Thats all most guys i met talk about when i try to socialize. Its so disheartening that the one medium my generation has to be hyper-fixated on happens to be the shittiest medium of entertainment around.
Anonymous No.149930322 >>149930330
>>149930311
>>149930312
>upset /v/tards have appeared
Your kind deserves to be mocked
>>149930317
>gif
Disgusting
Anonymous No.149930330
>>149930322
I've never even posted on /v/
Take your meds anon
Anonymous No.149930337 >>149930395
Trends often perpetuate without there needing to be an understanding of why things were that way in the first place.
They don't care that Spider-verse looked like a 2D comic book. The thing they latched onto was choppy = good.
Anonymous No.149930349 >>149930432
>>149930304
so true bestie.

>>149930317
that's because the budget for that movie was like $20 mil
Anonymous No.149930364
>>149930228
K-pop faggotry is 80% bots and 20% subhuman cultists who fell for the astroturfing.
Anonymous No.149930386 >>149930436
>>149930278
And yet somehow the same logic doesn't apply when you see /v/tards use the term "capeshit", implying Genshit or whatever slop they play is somehow more artsy/intellectual/elevated than capes?

I'll tell you why. It's because comics are a niche so they're not popular. They are very explicitly not aimed at the lowest common denominator. That doesn't mean everyone who reads comics is an intellectual, but they are at the very least people who have a niche hobby they're dedicated to, rather than consoomers latching onto every popular thing. So yes, I will continue condescendingly referring to the lowest common denominator on /co/, because comics appeal to a dedicated nerdy market rather than trying to cater to every retarded normie in existence.
Anonymous No.149930395
>>149930337
>They don't care that Spider-verse looked like a 2D comic book
It didn't lol

All these movies want the animation prestige of 2D and stop motion animation without putting in any of the effort, Peanuts was the only one to put in enough effort to genuinely earn the "looks like 2D animation" moniker
Anonymous No.149930426 >>149930499
Another thing i hate about spiderverse is that it tricked normies into thinking miles is a good character and not just a product of bendis's raceplay cuck fetish
Anonymous No.149930432 >>149930458 >>149930459
>>149930349
Are you implying the "on twos" thing was a budget-conscious decision? That theory may make sense if it wasn't for how most of the time ONLY the character animation is on twos and the scenes are still rendered at 24fps to keep the camera movement smooth.
Anonymous No.149930436 >>149930550
>>149930386
Theres a fuck ton of diffrent game genres, and a lot of them don't target the normies
I feel like you have a double standard, lumping all g*mers together, while acknowlaging that comics and cartoons have a wide variaty of nitches
Anonymous No.149930442 >>149930532 >>149930557 >>149930592
Why do they call it twos, just call it 12 FPS
Anonymous No.149930443 >>149930483
>>149930206 (OP)
It's not weird, movies aren't games and animating on 2's is not at all new. You're just a child. This board sucks the Iron Giant's fat metal dick all day, guess what it's animated on you dumb bitch. So was The Little Mermaid.

You'd think this board would be happy about 3D animation moving away from robotically smooth tweening with static models to individually timed frames with model warping, but no, you dumb cunts will never be happy.
Anonymous No.149930444 >>149930463 >>149930476
>>149930206 (OP)
The human eye and the labor time animation takes
Anonymous No.149930457
>>149930213
He's a MENACE!
Anonymous No.149930458 >>149930480
>>149930432
It's pretty obvious none of you have seen this movie because the demon group is constantly animated on 1's to make their movements look eerie compared to the people.
Anonymous No.149930459 >>149930477 >>149930478 >>149930486
>>149930432
Yeah, the on twos animation was purley stylistoc choice, theres no way in hell they would Save anything On that, considering most animation programs have no problem animating on normal frame rate
The online reason Disney animations take so much money is becsuse they remake them so much during production
Anonymous No.149930463 >>149930532
>>149930444
Anon, all CG is computer-tweened except for some very specific stuff made with entirely self-imposed limitations. In fact, it often takes more time and effort to make stuff look good in twos since you need to consider the range and rate of movement so it still reads.
Anonymous No.149930476 >>149930532
>>149930444
>I am fucking STUPID holy shit you have no idea
Tweening is vastly more cost effective than manually altering each frame and adding model warp or blur/motion lines
Anonymous No.149930477 >>149930504
>>149930459
>The online reason Disney animations take so much money is becsuse they remake them so much during production
Why is that? I heard elio got remade almost entirely before the finale version came out
Anonymous No.149930478
>>149930459
Not only that but by now it's possible to fake surfacing and lighting detail and render stuff on the level of this movie almost in real-time and then spruce it up a little in post.
Anonymous No.149930480
>>149930458
Are you implying we dont watch the movie we like to slander :D
Anonymous No.149930483 >>149930488
>>149930443
>It's not weird, movies aren't games and animating on 2's is not at all new
CG movies animating on 2s when generating frames between keyframes requires no more work is definitely "new", it started with Peanuts in 2015
Anonymous No.149930486 >>149930497
>>149930459
>Yeah, the on twos animation was purley stylistoc choice, theres no way in hell they would Save anything On that, considering most animation programs have no problem animating on normal frame rate
Rendering half the frames would save money on render farm costs depending on how the halving was done
Anonymous No.149930487
>>149930223
It annoys me how quick most people are to forget the sins of a studio like Sony pictures or Disney just because they made a gay movie with brown people. It happened with Book of Life and Coco a decade ago, and then it happened again with Popeye/The Emoji Movie and Spiderverse.
Anonymous No.149930488 >>149930495 >>149930497
>>149930483
>CG movies animating on 2s when generating frames between keyframes requires no more work
Oh hey look you're fucking retarded
Does your dumb ass seriously think they're just doing tweening between key poses and then pressing the "halve framerate" button?
Anonymous No.149930494 >>149930501
maybe it feels less slop in that way
Anonymous No.149930495
>>149930488
You are illiterate
Anonymous No.149930496 >>149930523
>>149930319
god you sound like one of those “durrr me born in the wrong generation” types
fuck off with you lame crybaby ass
Anonymous No.149930497 >>149930505
>>149930488
>>149930486
Holy shit
You do think they're just checking a box on a tween
It's time to stop posting.
Anonymous No.149930499 >>149930523
>>149930426
The 2010's and 2020's have been and continue to be the darkest age of culture ever experienced
Anonymous No.149930501
>>149930494
Funny because it ends up feeling more slop, like fake gold trim
Anonymous No.149930504
>>149930477
Its because they get a lot of outside influence from higher up that constantly keep changing, they are also just bad at planning things out and often change there mind
The movie beaing written by comitie also doesnt help
Anonymous No.149930505 >>149930512
>>149930497
Like I said it depends on how the halving was done, choosing 12FPS as the render settings would objectively halve the render farm time/cost but I did not claim that's how they do it
Anonymous No.149930512 >>149930521
>>149930505
>I just said that would work n-not that they're doing it!
So you're going with "my post is useless" over "my post is retarded?"
Bad effort. Terrible posts. Be better.
Anonymous No.149930521
>>149930512
Stop being mad at your inability to parse information
Anonymous No.149930523
>>149930496
This generation absolutely sucks dick tho. Fuck zoomers
>>149930499
Hard agree. The 2010s were horrible and i wish the 2010s 2.0 would just end already.
Anonymous No.149930532 >>149930534
>>149930463
>>149930476
Duh CG animators use tweening and the graph editor regardless so 2.5x the frames no one will see for no good reason = setting more money on fire every week the animation is produced, revised or reshot

>>149930442
12 images at a rate of 24 frames per second is not 12 frames per second
Anonymous No.149930534 >>149930570 >>149930573
>>149930532
It effectively is
Anonymous No.149930550
>>149930436
>Theres a fuck ton of diffrent game genres, and a lot of them don't target the normies
/v/ only plays and discusses the sloppiest games.
Anonymous No.149930557 >>149930563
>>149930442
What do you think FPS stands for?
Anonymous No.149930563
>>149930557
It effectively does not matter if on their end it is 24 frames or 12 frames, on our end it is the exact same.
Anonymous No.149930570 >>149930581
>>149930534
Not in this case because even a film mostly on 2s will use a variety of timing for specific shots, it’s not all 2s straight through
Anonymous No.149930573 >>149930584
>>149930534
No, it isn't.
The camera moves on 1's and so does the boy band
Anonymous No.149930581 >>149930584
>>149930570
FPS can vary throughout media. If it's on 2s for large chunks then it effectively is 12 FPS. You can hold an image for as many frames as you want for a desired effect, but if most of the run time is on 2s there is no real difference.
Anonymous No.149930584
>>149930581
See >>149930573
Anonymous No.149930592
>>149930442
Just in case you're serious: it's not the same concept. FPS is an output metric, while "on twos/threes" was originally an input metric (and still is for hand-drawn and stop motion animation, though even with CG it's mostly something in between and utilized consciously for stylistic purposes)
Anonymous No.149930809 >>149931779
>>149930206 (OP)
Because 1 movie was succesful with it and now everyone's copying
Anonymous No.149931779
>>149930809
It looks like ass and is cheap just like real Kpop