Thread 149952270

>"It’s all about selling tickets," Winstone started, sharing his assessment of the current state of Hollywood. "We see what’s happening in Hollywood with Marvel and all that kind of stuff. There is room for it, and it’s fun, but it takes away from getting cultural films made, which are best for the actors, and are really good acting parts. It’s getting more and more difficult to do that. If you’re not on social media now, they might not even consider you for a movie because they want a fanbase to come with that."

>Elaborating on his Marvel Studios experience, Winstone said, "I worked with this amazing director, Cate Shortland, and we worked on what my character was going to be. He was a pedophile running around all these girls, and they’d become Black Widows. We used to get applauded on set. It was probably the best thing I’ve done for a really long time. Then I come home after finishing the job and get a call saying we need to do some reshoots. I say: ‘how many scenes?’ Cate says 'all of them.' So I said she should recast, but I was contracted, so I had to do it. I go back, they do my hair all nice, put me in the suit, and I couldn’t do it. I’d already done it."

>"I thought, 'I’m not doing it now. I’ve done it. That’s how it’s going to be,'" Winstone admitted. "That’s rejection, you know? There’s nothing worse than doing something, leaving it on the floor, and then being told it’s not right. It was soul-destroying."

https://comicbookmovie.com/black-widow/black-widow-star-ray-winstone-says-all-his-scenes-were-reshot-originally-portrayed-dreykov-as-a-pedophile-a223403

>>149952270 (OP)
I'm more upset about changing Taskmaster in to a woman with the reshoots.

Had this been Iron Man 1 this guy would've stayed a pedo,

>>149952348
>I'm more upset about changing Taskmaster in to a woman with the reshoots.

It didn't happen in the reshoots.

that would have made the story interesting and relevant so we cant have that noononono girl bosses dont get raped slay queen

>>149952375
So they always intended for Taskmaster should width to change drastically when he takes his mask off?

Odd to have a male stuntman play him too. Since he was taller than even Red Guardian. Must've been changed after they started shooting.

>>149952270 (OP)
>it's all about selling tickets
>rewrites villains to not be pedophiles
>writes heroes to be gays
>don't sell tickets

>>149952653
You can only write pedophiles if they're somehow charismatic or if they're into older teens, but they can also only be on tv shows.

>>149952402
>that would have made the story interesting

How so?

>>149952422
>So they always intended for Taskmaster should width to change drastically when he takes his mask off?
Only autists pay attention to that.

>Odd to have a male stuntman play him too.
Intentional misdirect.

>Must've been changed after they started shooting.
Nope.

>>149952270 (OP)
is this nigga complaining about NOT getting to play a pedophile ?

>>149953997
You little bitchboy faggots are the death of art if you’re allowed a voice, seeking to turn movies to being about your personal fantasy life to please feminists by never growing up into a big scary man and remaining a manchild who buys Marvel products constantly

>>149953997
Yes, he was a villain, they should do villain things

>>149952270 (OP)
No wonder he phoned it in so hard in the final cut. Imagine putting all that effort into playing a thoroughly despicable character like that, day in, day out, for at least a few weeks, forcing yourself into that mindset and having to carry that with you all the while. And then they tell you that work's all going in the bin. I'd phone it in so hard in his place. I'd phone it in from fucking Timbuktu and stick them with the bill.

>>149952857
There would be more to his character and the scene would tie to the opening 20 minutes of the film. But you already have a contrived reasoning prepared for how this cant be so, now lets hear it.

>>149952878
It wasnt a misdirect, O.T Fagbenle was originally supposed to be Taskmaster before either Feige or the director thougth it was a better having Taskmaster being the daughter of Dreykov.

>>149953997
It made the character more interesting instead of MCU goon#354. He's bitching that took what mightve been compelling villain that was genuinely evil to "le ebil business man who's a stand in for drumpf"

>>149952857
Black Widows being sexually abused as part of their training would make their trauma more relevant and show the corruption of the Soviet government seeping into even their super soldier development.
Instead Black Widow's canonical greatest trauma is.....she had a hysterectomy so spies wouldn't get pregnant? Which like okay that's bad but in a "damn, that sucks, at least you can adopt" way not "holy fuck this man is a monster" way.

>>149952270 (OP)
black widow was possibly the worst marvel shit out of the lot

>>149954407
>O.T Fagbenle was originally supposed to be Taskmaster

He tested for it, but they rewrote the character before cameras started rolling.

>>149955045
Involuntary surgery is evil, I doubt if someone gave you an irreversible vasectomy against your will you'd be chill about it.

>>149952270 (OP)
Yeah. More and more actors are hated the MCU method of making these films. And the finish product is coming out more and more packaged and sterilized that even fans can tell.