Thread 149958694

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>>149958734
>>149958758
these are such wastes of pages

>>149958824
OH NI-

And that's it. If you liked this, support your LCS or whatever.

>>149958824
>>149958827
>I am the grandmaster
>My games and gambits span eons
>I cannot block teleporting
>no contongency to fire on intruders
Man

>>149958795
Veranke never died though

>>149959041
The Grandmaster didn't read Spider-Woman's solo either

Hopefully the tie-ins are better than this phoned-in self-parody of an 'event'

>>149958768
Inhumans? In 2025?

>>149958713
>>149958716
I thought Wiccan could teleport.

>>149958748
I'm confused, I thought that Nova had already absorbed the Xandar Worldmind and taken it away from Xandar back in Annihilation. It's how he got his massive power-up.

>>149958824
>>149958827
>>149958831
So Black Bolt caused a war in which thousands if not millions of people have died? All so that he could "get an empire"? I get that Hickman likes grey morality, but that's really a dick move that feels OOC for Black Bolt.

>>149958838
I know, right? This is such lazy writing.

>>149958757
How the fuck did the Worldmind figure out that the Grandmaster and the Inhumans are behind this? There is absolutely no evidence in-universe that the characters would be aware of.

>>149959096
The last cover is Lockjaw so they were bound to show up.

>>149958768
>>149958824
>>149958827
The boys are back. Surely there is an unannounced Inhumans book by Hickman coming. Doesn't really make sense to do this otherwise.

>>149959385
Yeah, as soon as I saw that cover, I immediately guessed that Maximus would be Grandmaster's opponent. I did not see Black Bolt working with Maximus coming though, mostly because it makes Black Bolt look pretty fucking evil.

>>149959398
I agree but it tracks for how Hickman writes them

>>149959398
>>149959370
>>149958831
So I'm guessing that the Inhumans are going to take over the Kree Empire again?

>>149958818
So what exactly was Grandmaster planning on doing here? Even if he told everyone "it was just a prank bro", that probably wouldn't stop the war, especially the Skrull and Shi'ar rebellions.

>>149958768
They're not going to bother telling us why Maximus isn't dead, are they? I bet that Triton will also show up alive with no explanation too.

>>14995939
Probably going to swing it as a desperation move like the T-bomb. Hickman has been behind all of the modern Black Bolt dickery
>abandoning the kree so that he could reconquer them
>breaking up crystal in ronan
>the T-bomb
>Illuminati shit
Morals go right out the window BB needs to get something done. I wonder how Hickman will frame the Inhumans empire falling considering how much he has contradicted DOTI already.

>>149959468
meant to link >>149959398

>>149959433
Yeah saying "Maximus dared me to do it" wouldn't keep people from seeking revenge either.
>>149959466
They didn't explain Ronan either

>>149959466
I just assume they were flesh clones used as bait. DOTI sucked balls to be fair

>>149958703
bump

>>149958716
Can't Wiccan teleport?

>>149958705
Pretty sure Nova Prime can create literal star gates.

>>149958754
Based on the solicits, we know that Nova is going to have to take on mercenary work to afford to keep the Worldmind on. So I'm guessing that Peter's sister won't die and will remain in charge, so he won't be able to help out Rich, and of course neither will Shuri.

>>149958749
Rich keeps referring to Xandar as an Empire. I guess it's just Hickman's weird writing style for this book

>>149958778
Why repeat these pages from the first issue?

Bet this leads to Wakanda vs Attilan to retread the Wakanda vs Atlantis shit

>>149959742
I don't want to imagine the Panther wank needed for T'challa to fight Black Bolt.

>>149959741
I guess so you can see it's just the lighting and it's not Mephisto

>>149959280
Wiccan can basically do anything the writers want him to do, which in Hickman's case is very little, I'm surprised they even bothered to put Hulking and Wiccan on the cover

>>149959280
Hickman is gonna Hickman and conveniently forget certain characters are totally capable of doing certain things. Like Wiccan can teleport, the Xandar World Mind doesn't consume 1/3 of the Nova Force to remain active, Black Bolt isnt this big of an asshole.

>>149959753
Vibranium is kind of a hard counter against sound.

Why does Black Bolt even want an empire?

>>149959486
The Elders of the Universe, especially the Grandmaster and the Collector, pull universe-endangering bullshit all the time, but for some reason nobody ever actively tries to stop them in any way. Nobody ever tries to imprison them or kill them, they're just left to their own devices until they inevitably pull some bullshit again. The Grandmaster openly operates a galactic casino anyone can go to.

>>149959809
Black Bolt has a lot of abilities

>>149959809
Black Bolt's "scream" isnt sound. Its basically an invisible energy blast that deletes electrons from atoms.

>>149959280
Wiccan can teleport
Nova can use worm holes
Every single garbage ship can use worm holes

>>149959370
Isn't he mind controlled by Maximus, like every couple of years?

I really hate fiction where they talk about some massive war thats happening and never actually show it

>>149958824

Hickman really can't help but turn everything he works on into a circlejerk for his Fantastic Four run. I swear the final arc of his X-Men would have been Krakoa vs a human Illuminati lead Orchis with Reed at the top, and more Franklin/Galactus wank. Not that I care, I love the Fantastic Four, and everything Lee and Kirby originated with it, even if I didn't really care for Hickman's run.

>>149959381
He ran the math and saw the space fingerprints, okay?

>>149959864
The last page suggests not but i wouldn't discount it either

>>149959924
That's a cop out a future writer can use to undo this Hickman mess.

>>149959891
Given how the F4 were treated by Karakoa X-men that would have been fair

>>149958824
>>149958827
I know Black Bolt can be morally dubious but Lockjaw being an accessory seems a bit much

>Blackbolt masterminded the deaths of millions just so he could feel important again
>Marvel still expects to like the Inhumans in 2025
I was really hoping they’d be gone forever

>>149959684
>Pretty sure Nova Prime can create literal star gates.
Has he ever pulled that off without Worldmind running things in the background to keep him from shoring himself out?
You're right of course, he's almost assuredly been Nova Prime long enough to do it himself, but I'm still curious.

>>149960035
To be fair, Lockjaw probably has no idea what's going on.

>>149960065
Was it millions? It seems to me to be a few thousand at most. Obviously still an unforgivable crime of course.

>>149960065
>being mad at fictional characters for years
Seek help anon

>>149958837
Thanks OP

>>149958791
>Ten Thoushand

...

whats the plan here? why does Black Bolt want an empire? why did he need to instigate Space War 1?

>>149959381
Grandmaster might have planted out the evidences or even a literal recording of the whole exchange for the empires to find out.

>>149959815
God forbid a man has hobbies

>>149960890
fucking universal inhuman wives would take up the majority of my time

Waaaait a minute, are we doing Infinity again?

>>149960065
Let me guess, seething X-Men fan?

>>149960961
They divorced him, he's now playing Stellaris

>>149961309
Oh you just reminded me that Orbis Stellaris was spotted in one of the big group shots of the empire union, wonder if he's gonna play a role in maybe the Exiles or if he really just got offed off-screen during the chaos.

>>149961309
top kek
>>149960976
...FUCK

>>149961309
>>149960961
The other Inhuman wives are dead, killed in Death of the Inhumans. But Maximus and Ronan also died there, so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Hickman decides to undon those deaths as well.

>>149959280
He can, but wouldn't it be great if Wiccan and Hulkling died in the merciless vacuum of space?

>>149958694 (OP)
>star lord! But draw him to look like Oliver queen with the faggy facial hair
>hulks in space! Which hulk? All the hulks! Especially the gay one!
>oh and ugly manly warrior she-hulk because it’s super gay!
Fuck this comic.

Galactic war along with massive instability, unrest, and bodycounts is a hell of a way to bring them back that's for sure. However, fuck the Shi'ar, fuck the Skrulls, fuck the Kree, and fuck the Space Wakandans, I dont mind the Inhumans shitting in their cereal since they're all unlikable assholes.

>>149961535
>All the hulks! Especially the gay one!
I assume you mean Amadeus, but as far as I know he is still straight.

>>149959433
Pulling the same keikaku he did in Avengers JLA

>>149961587
Skrulls are great, fuck you.

>>149958768
>>149959466
This is the first time Maximus has been seen since Death of the Inhumans, right?

>>149958739
the heck is Rich talking about? Xandar died to the Annihlation wave, a literal external bull crap that came outta nowehere.

>>149961710
yep

>>149960285
I don't think he has a Rich is notoriously bad at using his powers. That being said I thought he lost the world mind and lionshare of the nova force after it got infected with Cancerverse shit in Novas

>>149958749
what the hell is Rich talking about? Worldmind didn't require all this back in the DnA days

>>149958757
Ok, I'm callin Bull. If the Kree SI didn't rat out who the bad guy is, How can Worldmind do that with the incomplete knowledge of Rich?

also what Survivors is he talking about? He literally is all that was left.

>>149959742
Whoever thought Wakanda should be a galaxy level civilization should be slowly tortured to death over 50 years. The fucking vibranium/black panther wank is fucking unbelievable

>>149959809
According to current marvel vibranium is a counter to fucking everything

>>149961878
The DnA run had a couple of other Novas that were still alive, by not being on Xandar when it blew up but they didn't show up that much in other Nova runs post that and the Nova have been all killed off again during the Cates GotG run

>>149958831
>>149958824
>>149958827
Black Bolt return and heel turn took me by surprise.

>>149958838
Something something hubris, something something blinded. Also, it's what Hickman is notorious for, and the nature of comics in general, to create contrivances to make plots work.
>>149960035
Would he even really have a say in the matter? At the end of the day, despite having superpowers and increased intelligence, he's still a dog.

>>149958694 (OP)
variant cover list:

Imperial #3 J. Scott Campbell Just Spectacular Collection Variant
Imperial #3 Javier Garrón Connecting Variant
Imperial #3 Mateus Manhanini Variant
Imperial #3 Skottie Young Variant
Imperial #3 1:25 Delio Diaz Variant
Imperial #3 1:100 J. Scott Campbell Just Spectacular Collection Virgin Variant
Imperial #4 Javier Garrón Connecting VariantJavier Garrón Connecting Variant
Imperial #4 JeeHyung Lee Variant
Imperial #4 Simone Di Meo Stormbreakers New Class Variant
Imperial #4 Skottie Young VariantSkottie Young Variant
Imperial #4 1:25 TBD Artist Variant1:25 TBD Artist Variant
Imperial #4 1:100 JeeHyung Lee Virgin Variant

>>149962234
think i just nutted hands free

>>149958748
…didn’t the fucking Worldmind install itself into Rich’s helmet but than he literally sacrificed it to escape the Cancerverse and it got corrupted by it?

How the hell did it come back?

>>149958838
Lockjaw is really good at teleporting

>>149962432
Its Xandar it doesnt need to explain how its culture worldminbd or people come back from complete genocide and annihilation more often then Peter Parker had relationship drama

>>149962432
Uh...there was another one we forgot about. Don't worry though, he's chill.

>>149958703
Bump

>>149962477
They have died so many times I was surprised Annihilation stuck. I wouldn't mind the queen coming back though.

>>149959709
It was an Empire before Annihilation turned the Novas into cops but he might just be going by what he saw on the MCU.

>>149958795
>>149958799
>>149958809
>>149958837
>Imperial #1-3 ended up becoming a prequel to X-Manhunt this whole time

>>149961587
The only good aliens are the Kymellians

>>149958694 (OP)
I wish DC did as much with their cosmic as Marvel does with theirs.

>>149958827
>>149958831
I just read the last 3 pages and ignored everything else. I'm happy the bros are back.

>>149963283
This is first time has done something with cosmic that wasn't just a single book since like 2008

>>149963283
Isn’t DC space just the Green Lanterns being cop without any big space civilization?

>>149963494
It's in the same mold as events like Annihilation/Infinity/Empyre to smash the status quo and probably to relaunch a bunch of books that aren't going to survive past issue 12.

>>149963645
No they also
-New Gods
-Lanterns
-Thanagar/Rann - DC's forced equivalent to the Kree/Skrull

>>149963789
Are the Thanagar and Rann intergalactic empires? Is there anyone else besides them

>>149963828
>Is there anyone else besides them
Dominion (The Dominators)
The Citadel Empire (Ruled by Blackfire and Harry Hokum, the Citadel's forces include the native Citadelians, the Branx Warriors, the Gordanians, and the wicked Spider Guild,)
The Reach
The Khunds
Sangtee Empire

If you never heard of any of these before, blame DC because it's always New Gods/Darkseid bullshit or Evil Lantern bullshit, or Multiverse bullshit when it comes to space stuff that they push

>>149962432
If you read Thanos Imperative, the worldmind never went in there.
Can't fault Hickman for that one

>>149962477
Should've been Carol

>>149958734
>>149958758
>>149958769
These pages could have been Hickman's patented CHARTS.

>>149959741
Hickman does that. He did it with various X-Men scenes (and Gillen followed suit) and pretty sure he also did it a few times in F4 and Avengers.

>>149961880
That would be Coates although Hickman set the stage at the end of Secret Wars

>>149959816
Elders of the Universe are immortals and cant be killed via conventional means. It would take the death of a universe or Death herself to intervene in order to kill an Elder of the Universe. Also cant imprison them since the average Elder of the Universe range somewhere between a Herald of Galactus and Galactus in terms of power.

>>149962477
Pretty sure it was stated somewhere that Xandar bought the people back via cloning.

>>149965066
Hell, how come the Worldmind is still there? I read the last Nova volume and Rich literally left it behind there and it got corrupted

>>149964341
not enough charts imo

>>149961880
Which nation on Earth should have gotten an intergalactic empire?

>>149965705
Latveria, obviously. I'm sure Hickman would love to bring Doomwank to the cosmic sphere.

>>149962234
Based JSC drawing the cooler Nova.

Reminder that Hickman has never written a satisfactory ending to any of his events or "visionary epics"

>>149965705
Atlantis. They're already blue and there's already a bunch who are weird hybrids with animals.
They have an ancient culture and flip flop from having advanced technology and the ability to hide themselves in human society as sleeper cells to just swimming savages

You could have a lot of creativity with combining the aesthetics of spacecraft with different types of ships and vessels
Comparing sailing the seas with the stars, think Treasure Planet
Swimming in the oceans like flying in space
The Acanti space whales
Other planets with mostly water and resulting marine life, or planetoids, asteroids and comets with ice

>>149966190
G.O.D.S.
Be praised

>>149966382
Not canon

>>149965120
I'm sure they can bullshit something about it being a reconstructed Worldmind from some secret backup or remnant left behind all the times it was stored somewhere else during the Nova ongoing back then. Like from Project PEGASUS or some shit.

Or, more likely, not address it a all

BAD book is VERY BAD.

>>149967485
Hulk said as he slowly realized he didn't appear this issue

>>149967539
HULK bad too. SHE-HULK better. Only reason to read this hot garbage because PLANET OF SHE HULKS.

>>149958739
I've missed quote a bit of Cosmic Marvel in recent years, so was there a point when Xandar was somehow reconstituted as a planet? Because back in Annihilation when it was destroyed, it existed as a series of interconnected domes floating in space.

>>149958713
>>149958716
5 years of Billy and Teddy being kings of space and no one at Marvel gave a single fuck to do anything with them.

>>149967776
I'm a Hulkfag and I'm glad he's not in this book, I prefer him on Earth in general

>>149968254
He really peaked with this, even Ewing the man who made him space king didn't have much for him.

>>149968374
What a shame.

>>149958824
>>149958827
Inhumans coming in like a wrecking ball.

>>149968254
Xavier’s daughter being the Shi’Ar Empress at the same time, as well. All these empires ruled by children.

>>149968952
At least Xandra have psychic powers so she could just absorbe knoledge from other people minds

>>149963828
They are building up the united Planets lately with Mongul being the primary antagonist to the unification. Theres also the L.E..G.I.O.N. and Used to be there was a new Krypton under Zod but DC just couldnt help themselves

>>149968254
Now it's all but confirmed Teddy and Billy are going to lose the throne. What a disaster.

>>149969758
I wonder if getting big jobs is just an excuse to avoid writing characters.

>>149969841
Wouldn't shock me.

bump

>>149958703
>Bump

>>149958703
damn, trapped by OP's request again

>>149961788
>Hackman
>Caring about continuity
Kek

>>149969841
Hickman is a hack. Black Bolt and the Inhumans had an intergalactic empire but Hickman being Hickman decided to break that up and send Black Bolt and the Inhumans back to Earth.

>>149962465
What book is this from?

>>149972956
Lockjaw #4.

>>149972469
With some vague prophecy of the Midnight King and the Universal Inhumans which he did nothing with. I did like how he used Maximus as one of the eviler illuminati though

The She-Hulk book is going to suck, Like all her books in the last 20 years.

>>149973784
The common theme with Hickman is that he always promise something epic and interesting to happen while retconning a bunch of things to fit his narrative only for it to fall flat yet again. G.O.D.S. bombing and getting canceled is an example of this. Krakao plot getting out of control and Hickman fleeing from a problem of his own making is another.

>>149973840
Luckily for us G.O.D.S doesn't seems to be canon in main continuity

>>149974217
Yes it is, the redesigns introduced there are still featured and we just had a OWUD one-shot

>>149974217
Bro there is literally a GODS tie-in with One World Under Doom event.

>>149969758
tbf Ewing back in 2016, when he set up the King in Space stuff for Hulking, heavily implied it wasn't a status quo that was going to last for them, since he had a flash forward of them in the future living on earth in some middle class house.

>>149974229
>>149974257
I'm talking about the new cosmic hierarchy, I don't think all the gods coming in pairs with their intermediaries is canon since we had comics already showing things as they were before. Still hope that The-Powers-That-Be and The-Natural-Order-of-Things become canon, I liked them

>>149974904
Immortal Thor specially mentions the new cosmic hierarchy, so it's canon

>>149974964
Didn't read that, never liked The Living Tribunal being now at the same level of the other cosmic beings, he should be above them

>>149973496
Thanks, anon.