Thread 149963653

First S2 poster just dropped
https://x.com/netflix/status/1958197332635218200

>>149963653 (OP)
This looks cool, what am I in for?

>>149963653 (OP)
Huh, so they’re actually making it to Bongland
For some reason I was convinced they’d not

>>149963718
You haven’t watched the first season?

>>149963653 (OP)
Is anyone else concerned about how they're going to handle London and the British Empire in this story? Are all the white people going to be just as racist to Mizu as the asian people are?

>>149963746
I mean, that’s probably a given, yeah
That said I maintained the show was fairly nuanced compared to how they could have played the race dynamics so I think there’s a chance of them keeping it up
Especially if Fowler keeps being written as the best guy in the show

>>149963746
>>149963782
>>149963653 (OP)
Nah, the Japanese people being racist against the main character for having blue eyes is the dumbest shit ever. It would be better if she had some blond-ish hair or even a more western face. The show barely gets japanese sensitivities and how they dealt with racism correctly. It was a show made by westerners that don't really get the nuances of japanese society and culture of the time, hence why Fowler was easily the best character because his writing feels like whoever wrote it understood the character's intentions and backstory correctly.

Which brings me to believe that Season 2 will actually be BETTER than season 1, since they'll be able to drop any pretense of being a japanese story and it's now a story about a half-japanese lady in bongland, which western writers are much more familiar with.

>>149963782
I mean Mizu can probably pass for Welsh.

>>149963834
After the Shimabara rebellion, where catholic converts attempted to overthrow the government. Tokugawa either exiled or executed every single european that was on the island. Including hapa children like Mizu. The law stated that no european was to set foot on Japanese soil. With the exception of the Dutch. Who sold them the gunpowder that allowed them to put down the rebellion because being protestant, they hated the Portuguese and Spanish catholics.

Presumably the Itoh clan (who rule japan instead of the Tokugawa in this version of japanese history) have a similar history. Just with Fowler and the British instead of the Dutch.

>>149963653 (OP)
Asian American wish fulfillment fantasy

>>149963653 (OP)
Notice she's holding a rapier instead of a katana here.

>>149963959
Yeah, that's the people in charge. The average person in Japan wouldn't have given a shit about it and the main character was pretty in general, if a bit tall and purposefully manly-looking, her rival samurai guy even started to get flirty with her despite having been around geishas and princesses as a renowed duelist samurai.

And, as you said, this is an alternate storyline. As far as we know, these rebellions never even happened in the show.

>>149964025
This is more likely, yes and it's fine, but it's not really a "japanese" story. It's like saying Frank Miller's japanese phase in his comics were good japanese style storytelling.

>>149963782
My worry is that they're going to portray the British as worse than they actually were.
In real life while the british had slavery in their colonies up until the 1800s, they were the first european nation to outlaw it in their homeland.
Yeah they were bad, but the british way of empire was somewhat less bad than the spanish and portuguese.

>>149964066
>these rebellions never even happened in the show.
Well something similar to them happened. Fowler even mentioned as such during his 'deal with god' scene.
"You saw what they did to your priests and faithful. Kicked out. Crucified. The word dead in their mouths."

>>149963718
It's a 'woke' show that even antiwoke youtubers gave positive reviews. Written by the guy who wrote Logan and Blade Runner 2049, who has a Japanese wife.

>>149964066
>The average person in Japan wouldn't have given a shit about it
They would have cared if the shoguns men came around and threatened to decapitate them for not immediately reporting the enemy of the state.

>>149963834
It's even worse when you know this whole show was literally created because of this attack of self hatred the asian producer had when she saw her baby had blue eyes. This hapa/asian women producers inserting themselves and their self hatred into shows is so weird.

>>149964066
>it's not really a "japanese" story.
It's an ultraviolent version of Mulan. A Japanese story told by westerners who did their homework when researching, but also took a lot of artistic liscense.

>>149963718
A censored version of the first episode is free to watch on youtube. Or it was I don't know if it still is.

>>149963653 (OP)
Did the Japanese actually have opposition to guns as to burn them for even being in the country? I figured that was just libshittery about how Japan was a civilized society without GUNS, like YOU should be, you know that stupid fedshit they put in everything.

I figure they'd rather keep the weapons to themselves as a defense. Dutch studies let you explore other stuff from the outside world, why would they just burn advanced weaponry? Obviously don't smuggle it in, but a gun's a gun.

>>149963718
>Tarantino-esque revenge story about the bastard daughter of a Japanese woman and a White man in Tokugawa era Japan
>her very existence is considered a crime so her life was hell from second one
>goes on to learn the ways of the samurai for the sole purpose of finding her white father and murdering his ass for bringing her into existence to begin with
>learns there were only 4 white men in all of Japan when she would have been conceived, story proper is her looking to hunt them down
>also something something Sauske tier anime rival and Memiors of a Geisha-lite
Its a pretty good show, well written and with some damn good actors to back it up (the main villian is voiced by KENNETH BRANNAUGH, for fucks sake). Definitely give it a shot if you can

>>149964300
>Did the Japanese actually have opposition to guns as to burn them for even being in the country?

A few did, but the fascination with the tech took over. The first firearms weren’t ideal, but Japanese smiths pushed designs to extremes. When they saw newer, more practical Western guns, they again became obsessed and iterated further. They phased out most melee weapons, but I don't think there was ever a widespread rejection of guns.

"To answer your question directly: no, the Japanese did not reject the newer firearms when they were introduced. However, there was certainly a lag in the technology they were using compared to the West, mainly due to their isolationist policies. Once Japan opened up to the outside world, they made an impressive leap in military technology, absorbing and adapting the most advanced firearms of the time. This included breech-loading rifles, repeating firearms, and eventually even the development of their own firearms, like the Arisaka rifle."

>>149964689
>well written
HA, riiiiiight.

Shit is ass.

>>149964689
>well written
>"REJECT GUNS"
>"BLUE EYES BAD!"
>well written


go fellate a shotgun

>>149963718
more girlboss crap with a tranny lead

>>149963653 (OP)
why is every action animaton show about a girlboss but we never get any shows with white male action leads
i feel bad for white boys they are not allowed to have any positive or cool representation in media

Boohoo nigga
You’re why. Pussy male characters? That’s representing YOU

>>149964300
>>149964300
>Did the Japanese actually have opposition to guns as to burn them for even being in the country?
While there were a few members of the elite who considered it dishonorable, most of the samurai didn't really care. The elite having a total anti-gun ban is artistic license on the filmmakers part to give Fowler a military advantage he wouldn't have realistically had if someone had tried this in real life.

First season kind of lost steam after the cliff fight scene, then it just went full comedy.

>>149966152
>The elite having a total anti-gun ban is artistic license on the filmmakers part to give Fowler a military advantage he wouldn't have realistically had if someone had tried this in real life.
He could have also just bewitched more clans to his side in a similar religious convert rebellion, the anti-gun stance just feels like the preaching of liberal anti-gun attitudes of today, given how they still burn them at the end like they're cursed materials.

>>149963745
Nope
>>149964168
>>149964689
>>149965070
Aaaaaaaand this killed my interest, oh well to each their own.

The MC isn’t a tranny lol
Don’t derive all of your media opinions from xwitter

>>149966293
>I cant enjoy something that's tailored specifically to my tastes and likes because it's woke narrative will make my peepee feel small
Coward

>>149963653 (OP)
i loved the first season but i probably won't be able to get through the second. I acquired a hapa gf like mizu and lost her recently so looking at her will just remind me. life is gay