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Anonymous No.149963774 >>149963811 >>149963879 >>149963904 >>149963958 >>149963975 >>149964073 >>149964075 >>149964188 >>149964365 >>149964508 >>149964578 >>149965123 >>149965527 >>149966143 >>149966552 >>149967860 >>149969748
This 2 parter was awesome. Marvel needs more grim comics.
Anonymous No.149963811
>>149963774 (OP)
>All the Warren Ellis Forum posts have been deleted
>someone tries to glaze Ruins

Ah I see Warren Ellis is trying to attempt a comeback huh
Anonymous No.149963879
>>149963774 (OP)
>Ellis
>Awesome
Anonymous No.149963904
>>149963774 (OP)
>This 2 parter was awesome.
"No."
Anonymous No.149963958 >>149969748
>>149963774 (OP)
>what if... everything bad??
>is there a story or something
>i just said it, everything bad
>genius

Ruins exemplifies everything that was wrong with that era. And while Ellis has written some good stuff, this is not it. This is just nihilistic misery-tourism for the sake of it.
Anonymous No.149963975 >>149969748
>>149963774 (OP)
The art was beautiful but the story was edgelord
Anonymous No.149964050
Anon would love Earth X
Anonymous No.149964073
>>149963774 (OP)
Try The Last Avengers Story. Came out around the same time.
Anonymous No.149964075 >>149964264 >>149964620
>>149963774 (OP)
what would a hyperion look like in the ruins universe? or even the eternals or olympians or whatever. and no copouts like "le mental illness" or "sun induced cancer"
Anonymous No.149964188
>>149963774 (OP)
The first issue works well-enough as a shocking and lurid parody of Marvels, the second issue is "oh shit this is a two-parter not a oneshot."
Anonymous No.149964264 >>149964295 >>149964395
>>149964075
>ends with an image of a gigantic red hand pointing thumbs down followed by onlookers watching as numerous strange figures rise into the air to form the Unimind before leaving earth, curiosity turning to horror as they see what descends from the sky in it's wake, covering all in shadow
Anonymous No.149964295 >>149964395 >>149964546 >>149964546
>>149964264
rapture but with space aliens? i like it, bretty original, what would they look like? le eldritch? or regular degular superhero attire
Anonymous No.149964365 >>149969048
>>149963774 (OP)
BEST. WHAT IF. EVER.
Anonymous No.149964395 >>149964442 >>149964546 >>149969748
>>149964264
>>149964295
Guys, it's Ruins. The correct answer is "the Eternals have taken over all religion (which isn't real by the way), also they rape and murder their followers for fun (because people who believe in religion are stupid and deserve to be raped to death, am I right?). Oh and also the Celestials are all dead because they cannibalized themselves for some reason."
Anonymous No.149964442 >>149964489
>>149964395
START WRITING ANON
Anonymous No.149964489 >>149964539
>>149964442
Issue one or issue two? Because they're tonally very different.
Anonymous No.149964508
>>149963774 (OP)
>punches journo in the stomach
>says he first ate human flesh with captain america
>kills under age prostitute (who was spy for president x)
>says he’s clean
>says cap was killed in a patriot missile strike a week priror
>kills himself
Fury was cool
Anonymous No.149964539
>>149964489
BOTH!!! I WANT IT BY TOMORROW, seriously though, the celestials cannibalizing themselves is an interesting concept and visually would be cool
Anonymous No.149964546 >>149964588
>>149964295
>>149964295
It's was just a throwaway idea.

>>149964395
Yeah. Realistically, in the context of the comic, they'd probably either be be uber-racists who started the whole sacrifice thing for their own glorification or ultra-moralists opposed to all forms of deviancy because of the name. Except for Circe who would be a stripper.
Anonymous No.149964578
>>149963774 (OP)
Im an edgefag so i thought this comic was cool as fuck. I miss the 2000s and the 90s so much more every day
Anonymous No.149964588
>>149964546
don't care, the thought of a cannibalistic "gene" in space angels intrigues me
Anonymous No.149964620 >>149964659 >>149966539
>>149964075

Ngl, I would buy a Ruins type book based on Krakoa, just to see those muties taken down a notch.
Anonymous No.149964659 >>149966539
>>149964620
start the work
Anonymous No.149965123
>>149963774 (OP)
A reminder that editor Marie Javins championed this book and is now EiC of DC.
Anonymous No.149965527 >>149965553 >>149966945 >>149969748
>>149963774 (OP)
>awesome
>wot if errythang wuz grim an' pointless as 40k only with no nuance or sense of humor at all?
>awesome
lel
Anonymous No.149965553
>>149965527
40k doesnt even have humor anymore its just endless imperium wank now unfortunately
Anonymous No.149966143
>>149963774 (OP)
I've always thought it would end better with a nuclear strike or something. Some Skrull is in control of another government and just nukes New York, the ultimate condemnation of the Marvel Universe as New York is its hub.
And it's still just as abrupt, arbitrary, and entirely out of his control with the last thing he sees being his evidence going up in flames. Ellis, how did you miss that one? It was right there.
Anonymous No.149966539 >>149966857 >>149966865
>>149964620
>>149964659
You can't really do a Ruins-type book for Krakoa because true Ruins-style Krakoa is "and then the island eats them." For an actual bad end story that works you'd want to focus on the increasing disconnect from the major social groups in Krakoa. You've got the mass of inhabitants who are continuously sinking further and further into pointless debauchery and hedonism, the Five and other mutants who have to be disconnected from Krakoan society because they're the ones keeping it running, and the Council/Hellfire Trading Company who don't really do anything but act like they're the important ones. The book would be something like 20 years after Krakoa was founded and no one knows what the fuck is going on anymore. The drugs are still being shipped, but barely anyone ever leaves the island and they don't give a shit about mutants in the wider world anymore. So you've got some mutant who washes up on the coastline and is basically "just fucking nuke the place" and the rest of the story is them leading a small group to document what it's like on Krakoa. There is no real society or culture, just a bunch of people who eat, fuck, and kill as it amuses them, anyone who is against it gets tossed in the Pit or killed and never resurrected, the Council spends all its time securing its own power and making moves against itself but nothing changes because everyone has their own pocket clones of The Five to bring them back immediately. Any vital task has long since been covered by mindless clones to prevent anyone from taking power, you have duplicates of people running around because cloning two or three copies at a time is more convenient when there is a problem, you've got people running around who are nigh-feral because they came to Krakoa as kids or were born there and all they got was a language downloaded into their head and no other education or socialization. A land of zero impulse control or consequences.
Anonymous No.149966552
>>149963774 (OP)
It would've been cool if there were more than like 5 neat ideas put forward. Far too short.
Anonymous No.149966857 >>149966923
>>149966539
It sounds like it would be like that crew that went to Jonestown with that congressman and were killed. Which was an event that led to the mass suicide.
Anonymous No.149966865
>>149966539
> A land of zero impulse control or consequences.
Sounds based to me
Anonymous No.149966923 >>149967057
>>149966857
Depending on how you want to play it, one could could all the way from a depressing, downbeat examination of human society to Cannibal Holocaust with eye lasers.
Anonymous No.149966945
>>149965527
It does have a sense of humor, not a funny one
Anonymous No.149967057
>>149966923
>Cannibal Holocaust with eye lasers.
Oh I vote for the latter, let's see if we can out-edge Ellis.
Anonymous No.149967860
>>149963774 (OP)
Is it really worse than Identity Crisis?
Anonymous No.149969048
>>149964365
No.
Anonymous No.149969748
>>149963774 (OP)
>>149963958
>>149963975
>>149964395
>>149965527
You faggots understand that this was mocking the idea of "dark and realistic superhero comics", right?

/co/ can't possibly be THIS illiterate, can it?