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Anonymous No.149981832 >>149981853 >>149982140 >>149982501 >>149982693 >>149982920 >>149984233 >>149984262 >>149984275 >>149984294 >>149984481 >>149984546 >>149984572 >>149984664 >>149985182 >>149987383 >>149989660 >>149989686 >>149989958 >>149990172 >>149990910 >>149991218 >>149993375 >>149993473 >>149997339 >>149997652
Absolute DC
What are your thoughts on the Absolute DC comics? How would you rank them? What other characters would you like to see get their own comic in the absolute universe?
Anonymous No.149981853 >>149981882 >>149981982 >>149984233
>>149981832 (OP)
The only ones I'm reading are:
1. Absolute Martian Manhunter
2. Absolute Batman
3. Absolute Wonder Woman

I've heard Absolute Superman has gotten better, so I might get the trades for that.
Anonymous No.149981882 >>149982514
>>149981853
I've Read Batman and WW and Superman. I'd put WW above Batman and i'm 3 issues into Superman so a ranking isn't fair yet but I'm liking where it's going.
Anonymous No.149981982 >>149982481
>>149981853
What do you like about MM? I've heard it's pretty good and it ranks very highly among the current absolute lineup.
Anonymous No.149982140 >>149982962
>>149981832 (OP)
More like ABSOLUTE SHIT
Anonymous No.149982401 >>149982432
Absolute Martian Manhunter made me go track down new release physical comics for the first time in years
Anonymous No.149982432 >>149982787
>>149982401
Damn it's really that good huh? What is so great about it? All I know is that it's a detective story with crazy visuals.
Anonymous No.149982478 >>149982766 >>149984653
I think the two weakest books are Flash and Green Lantern. Flash has weird pacing issues, both with what's going on with Thawne and Wally's sudden shift into being a superhero out of nowhere. Green Lantern suffers as a slow burn. Not bad, but people just want to get to the point. Might read better collectively

Superman's is somewhat hindered by the responsibility of fleshing out the larger world given his wanderer style storytelling. It becomes less about remixing Superman's more, and becoming a vehicle to explore the bigger context of this new Earth what with Ras
Anonymous No.149982481 >>149982638
>>149981982
It's a really unique take on MM, the art reminds me of Darwyn Cooke, the lead-up to what's happening until the most recent issue has been great. Making John Jones and J'onn J'onnz two consciousness in the same body is a really interesting take on them.
Anonymous No.149982501 >>149982543 >>149982654 >>149982699 >>149984595 >>149987366
>>149981832 (OP)
The writer of Absolute Martian Manhunter is a traitor.
https://clearsky.app/denizcamp.bsky.social/blocking
Anonymous No.149982514 >>149982638
>>149981882
I've liked Wonder Woman, but the pattern of every issue has been
>Opening scene with Diana in the present
>Flashback to Diana in Hel
>What Diana learned in Hel informs her choice in the present

Has gotten kind of formulaic.
Anonymous No.149982543 >>149982646
>>149982501
you will need to explain this with more context anon
Anonymous No.149982638 >>149982875
>>149982514
I have only read 5 issues so far but I really enjoyed my time learning more about her and circe. That's something about the batman and even the flash run that makes me really interested to read it, the hero's teaming up with their rouge's gallery now that everything is really flipped.
>>149982481
Wow that is pretty interesting. Is it kind of like Shazam in that way? or is there one dominat being that controls the other?
Anonymous No.149982646 >>149983409
>>149982543
he's blocking some randos that don't even write about comics anymore like the faggot rittesh i guess, the others i don't know.

could care less lmao.

i hope rittesh seethes to dead.
Anonymous No.149982654
>>149982501
I don't understand what this is
Anonymous No.149982693
>>149981832 (OP)
I only recently started looking at the storytime
>Superman
Mid. Nothing grabs me.
>Batman
Feels schizophrenic. Last issue was a waste of time.
>WW
Haven't read
>MM
Read first issue, hated it
>GL
I like the Hal Black Hand design but I'm wondering what the point is
>Flash
Read one issue. So mid I can't remember it, haven't read again.
Anonymous No.149982699
>>149982501
>blocks Colin Spacetwat
Uhhh based??

I presume the traitor shit is in reference to Jess AM? Which is a strange one to block, but she does post a lot I guess?
Anonymous No.149982766
>>149982478
I think collecting these all in volumes has been better for my experience. I would not have continued reading Superman after issue 1 as it didn't really grab me but by issue 2 I was invested. WW and Batman didn't have that problem for me, each issue from the beginning to the end has been great stuff.
Anonymous No.149982787 >>149982848
>>149982432
>What is so great about it? All I know is that it's a detective story with crazy visuals.
IDK what you want to be told other than it's a great story with great art and fantastic paneling and coloring. Like, what else is there?

As a comic book it's just incredibly well made, and the take on Green and White Martians being higher-dimensional disembodied entities rather than literal green aliens from mars is interesting. The White Martian is basically an infectious cognitohazard spreading chaos and amplifying people's darkest impulses like a lesser version of the Anti-Life Equation, the Green Martian is meanwhile a benevolent symbiotic entity possessing John Jones trying to fix the damage and stop it.
Anonymous No.149982848
>>149982787
I'll definitely check it out when volume 1 drops. Wish it came out sooner than November.
Anonymous No.149982875 >>149984533
>>149982638
>Wow that is pretty interesting. Is it kind of like Shazam in that way? or is there one dominat being that controls the other?
He's basically "possessed" by the Martian, it saved his life from an explosion caused by the white martian driving people crazy, and became entangled with him as a result. So it shares "martian vision" with him which is MM's normal telepathic abilities and alien knowledge but John's the one with a body that actually exists in the real world and needs to go around doing detective work and talking to people and shit since the martians are higher dimensional beings without a real body
Anonymous No.149982876 >>149983193 >>149984361
Absolute Batman feels like Snyder writing a parody and then writing a Resident Evil adaptation involving Batman.
Anonymous No.149982920 >>149982934 >>149982962
>>149981832 (OP)
They're all shit
Anonymous No.149982934 >>149982992 >>149984632
>>149982920
absolute wondy is my wife please take this back
Anonymous No.149982962
>>149982140
>>149982920
bugs
Anonymous No.149982992
>>149982934
she's such a cutie. can't wait for the issues with and batman in a couple months.
Anonymous No.149983193
>>149982876
did not get that impression at all from reading.
Anonymous No.149983409 >>149984170
>>149982646
who's rittesh?
Anonymous No.149984170
>>149983409
A noble man.
Anonymous No.149984233 >>149984333
>>149981853
>>149981832 (OP)
The only ones I'm reading are:
> Absolute Batman
thats it. sometimes i check in on wonder woman. superman bores me, flash bores me and i say that as a big wally fan, martian manhunter is boring the only cool thing is the art i have no idea why people suck it off so much and green lantern is surprisingly readable
Anonymous No.149984262
>>149981832 (OP)
>It was Darkseid, once again
Hard pass.
Anonymous No.149984275
>>149981832 (OP)
>Superman
Haven't read much of it/not really interested in it. Having read Siegel, nothing really lives up to him.
>Batman
Dumb but I'm not a Batman fan so I don't mind. Art's OK.
>Wonder Woman
Having read Marston, one would think ANY writer would be an improvement. AWW's manages to be too wordy and dull. Art/design is good though. Her magic/robot arm is dope.
>Martian Manhunter
Read the first one, it seemed alright.
>Lantern/Flash
Haven't checked em out.
Anonymous No.149984294 >>149984395
>>149981832 (OP)
Take green lantern and martian manhunter out and we good, both of them are too experimental to work, one is a fucking a web manga with everything that makes the west trash and the other one while interesting I think the concept doesnt really work out for mainstream superhero stuff and could benefit more from something like black label or more mature shit
Anonymous No.149984333 >>149984391
>>149984233
honestly Batman is my least favorite. It's really good but the others I've read are better.
Anonymous No.149984361
>>149982876
>writing a Resident Evil adaptation involving Batman.
And that's bad how?
Anonymous No.149984391 >>149984433
>>149984333
>It's really good but the others I've read are better.
Anonymous No.149984395
>>149984294
that's my hesitation with green lantern, it does look like a web manga lol. AT least the other books have great art but GL has the worst by far and people rank it low compared to the others. I've also not heard one good thing about it. The concept seems interesting though. If it got better between issue 1-6 i'd consider buying volume 1.
Anonymous No.149984433 >>149986826
>>149984391
your on 4chan anon that's like the pot calling the kettle black.
Anonymous No.149984481
>>149981832 (OP)
It mostly sucks but Absolute Supes takes the crown
Anonymous No.149984533
>>149982875
Sounds a lot like Vertigo's Shade the changing man
Anonymous No.149984546 >>149984873
>>149981832 (OP)
Being caught up with all of them
Wonder Woman > Batman > Manhunter > Superman > Flash > GL

As for what I'd like to see I think Absolute Zatanna would be cool. Make her like a hot punk goth chick.
Anonymous No.149984572 >>149987150
>>149981832 (OP)
absolute Martian Manhunter is the only one that isnt atrocious. But itโ€™s amazing. And I say this despite hating everything else camp has ever made.
Anonymous No.149984595 >>149998168
>>149982501
Heโ€™s a massive, openly woke faggot which was already evidenced by his ultimates. But that doesnโ€™t change the fact that Martian Manhunter is the only good absolute title.

It and dark patterns are the only good DC titles period.
Anonymous No.149984632 >>149988291
>>149982934
Looks like a fucking dude. Like Adam driver dressed as Wonder Woman,
Anonymous No.149984653
>>149982478
>Superman's is somewhat hindered by Jason Aaron being the writer.
Ftfy
Anonymous No.149984664 >>149984688 >>149991233
>>149981832 (OP)
Absolute crap. This shit is made for kids suffering from terminal brainrot
Anonymous No.149984688 >>149984716
>>149984664
Will he realize his dream of giving Batman super powers?
Anonymous No.149984716
>>149984688
I hope so. Then they will become bff :)
Anonymous No.149984873 >>149985079
>>149984546
I was just thinking zatanna would be a good character to do an absolute on. I'd also like to see the question get a run.
Anonymous No.149985079
>>149984873
Question would be perfect considering all the corporate evil stuff going on in Batman and Superman.
Anonymous No.149985182 >>149985332 >>149991354
>>149981832 (OP)

My thoughts are that I'm just gonna continue ignoring all of them. They don't affect me, they don't affect mainline DC, they don't even affect each other. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it true that none of the "absolute universe" characters have even met each other yet? It's really not a universe at all, it's just a bunch of unrelated Elseworlds. Exactly like Earth One was.
Anonymous No.149985332 >>149989928
>>149985182
The first crossover is in November or December between Batman and Wonder Woman and then there's the Absolute Evil mini in December which I assume will feature at least the trinity.
Anonymous No.149986826
>>149984433
like eating chips, nah.
Anonymous No.149987150 >>149988201
>>149984572
He hasn't made much, has he? The only other stuff I'm aware of is 20th Century Men and Assorted Crisis Events. I think he has some genuine talent but I hate his tendency to soapbox. 20th Century Men needed more issues and ACE plays around with the format in a nice way but again, fucking soapboxing. I think Manhunter has really let him experiment more and despite the usual tinge of gay politics I'm not really interested in he doesn't let it become overbearing.
Anonymous No.149987366
>>149982501
In general I love the Absolute universe despite its flaws because it made me a DC fan.
Dropped Green Lantern and Flash. Flash was ok but it didn't grab me and GL was just bad.
Superman is mid. Loved Brainianc tho.
Batman is badass and it gets better and better with each chapter.
Wonder Woman is so great that I'm a WW fan now.
I wasn't familiar with the character when I started reading Martian Manhunter but it is a pretty interesting buddy cop comic and the art is phenomenal.
Anonymous No.149987383
>>149981832 (OP)
Absolute Cringe
Anonymous No.149988201 >>149992671
>>149987150
His other major book is the current Ultimates
Anonymous No.149988291 >>149991421
>>149984632
>see attractive woman
>immediately think of men
you might be gay anon
Anonymous No.149989660
>>149981832 (OP)
Martian Manhunter is fun and probably benefits from being a limited series to be honest. It was supposed to be 6 issues but got extended to 12, hope that doesn't impact the quality of it.
Wonder Woman is genuinely just a nice take on Wonder Woman, this universe is supposed to be all edgy and cynical, why is she so nice? Not complaining but Darkseid hates Batman and Superman way more than he does Wonder Woman I guess.
Snyder read Batman Year 100 and said "I want my own version of that but way dumber". It's fun for what it is and at times doesn't take itself that seriously.
They picked the wrong writer for Absolute Superman, bunch of cool ideas not handled that well, is preachy without having much insightful to preach, also Superman's own personality isn't really defined yet 10 issues in. It's mediocre but could easily be way better, the pieces are all there. Don't like how they're using a Batman villain in it so early on personally.
GL's setup is interesting but it's very slow, anime protagonist Hal Jordan and zesty uncle John Stewart are massively overshadowing Jo Mullein as protagonists so far too.
Flash is like GL but with even less going on, has mostly been a lot of potentially cool characters introduced but nothing done with them yet while Wally runs away from his dad while having panic attacks and being calmed down by his psychic pet monkey. The mystery of Barry and evil femcel Thawne is only thing keeping me interested in this so far, also the art is nice at times.
Anonymous No.149989686
>>149981832 (OP)
nu52 done right
Anonymous No.149989928
>>149985332
Abolute Evil is just a one-shot
Anonymous No.149989958
>>149981832 (OP)
>tfw working on a pitch for Absolute Green Arrow.
>know it'll be better than whatever slop DC slithers out.
>but also know this pitch is meaningless since I don't work in the industry, have no connections, and have never published anything before.
>also know that it's probably to in-depth of storytelling since I estimate just my first storyline would cover 30-40 issues.
Anonymous No.149990172 >>149991240
>>149981832 (OP)
>How would you rank them?

>1) Absolute Martian Mind****er
Great art, creative writing, and so far the only Absolute title to actually deal with what Absolute is about, i.e Darkseid's influence on this universe. It's a must-read if you care about Absolute DC at all.
>2) Absolute Wonder Woman
The art isn't the best but I still like the style most of the time. The story is a bit uneven but it's a cool take on the character with plenty of cool action.
>power gap
>3) Absolute Batman
It's gloriously retarded. The premise is lame and undermines itself almost immediately, the story lurches from one contrivance to the other, and the villains barely matter. But the fact is, if you can get past all of that it's somehow still a lot of fun.
>power gap
>4) Absolute Green Lantern
Many people will probably put this lower on the list judging from the storytimes, but I'm actually enjoying it. The art isn't great but has moments where it shines, the story takes way too long to get started, and /co/ will never recover from the fact that their sainted Hal Jordan isn't the main hero, but the space mystery at its core is interesting and we've been getting some proper action scenes which in my book makes it the winner of the losers' bracket.
>5) Absolute Flash
To be fair, I think this one has a lot of potential, maybe even top-3 material eventually. But right now it's just a bit of a mess. Sure it's building up to something, but it's not in a hurry to get there since it's just taking its sweet time introducing the cast while not giving its main character a whole lot to do. It doesn't help that just when we were getting some action it takes an issue to just step aside and go into the backstory of the villains.
>6) Absolute Superman
A slow start, an uninspired premise, and a Brainiac whose edge somehow rubs me the wrong way despite the fact that I generally don't mind edgy characters. Things do seem to be picking up now so maybe it'll get better, but I don't have high hopes.
Anonymous No.149990910
>>149981832 (OP)
>Enjoying MM and WW so far.
>I didn't bother with Batman and Superman after I read the first couple of issues
>Flash is mediocre
>GL can potentially be interesting, but they are taking their sweet time getting anywhere.
Anonymous No.149991154 >>149993275 >>149993301 >>149996108
Imagine:

Absolute Green Arrow
Absolute Zatanna
Absolute New Gods
Absolute Static
Absolute Captain Marvel
Absolute Vixen
Anonymous No.149991218
>>149981832 (OP)
I've read the first TPB of Absolute Batman and I thought it was really fun so I'm getting the 2nd one whenever that comes out.
I'm gonna get Absolute Superman and Wonder Woman as well.
Anonymous No.149991233
>>149984664
This shit is peak
Anonymous No.149991240
>>149990172
>and /co/ will never recover from the fact that their sainted Hal Jordan isn't the main hero
He basically is so far though
I don't hate Jo, in fact I know nothing about her 6 issues in aside from her being a lesbian, Hal has been the main focus for a while now
Anonymous No.149991354 >>149991639
>>149985182
Some of the titles are a bit too slow but they definitely should not rush these characters meeting each other, a bunch of shit needs to be established about these characters and their home settings first
That being said, I imagine we'll get the formation of a Justice League soon anyway, even though so far that looks to include a literal child and an incorporeal alien others can't see
Anonymous No.149991363 >>149991447
Does Absolute WW get any better? It was giving me heavy "woman who got into d&d in her 20s" vibes.
Anonymous No.149991421
>>149988291
>transsexuals are attractive women
Lol
Anonymous No.149991447 >>149991473
>>149991363
No, itโ€™s the most overrated comic in years. But Thats assuming itโ€™s genuine anons rather than shills posting good things about it.
Anonymous No.149991473 >>149992366
>>149991447
It's solid but nothing special, which by Wonder Woman standards means it's amazing, this character has a lot of absolutely shit books
Anonymous No.149991639
>>149991354
Have a feeling MM won't be in the JL, but he'll be around
Also Aquaman is strangely absent from everything so far
Anonymous No.149992366 >>149992608
>>149991473
No. Itโ€™s dogshit. Not being as bad as king doesnโ€™t make it good.
Anonymous No.149992608
>>149992366
I have to agree with you. I saw potential at first, seemed like the least horrible of all Absolute comics but the art makes Diana look like a tranny and every guy like a girl, and that's on purpose. They also turned her into a insane Mary Sue, everybody fall in love with her on sight, the military just trust her, she has that bag Felix the Cat with all the magical items she needs to win her battles. It's pure stupidity, there are no real stakes, just Diana being perfect in every way.
Anonymous No.149992671
>>149988201
I never read Marvel outside of Captain Britain and some What Ifs so I wouldn't know
Anonymous No.149992700 >>149993463 >>149993603
I don't really get the hype for Absolute Batman. I love the artist but the writing is just your typical retarded Snyderslop, the man is genuinely mentally deficient as a creative.
Anonymous No.149993275
>>149991154
Absolute New Gods would be interesting considering how Absolute is basically Darkseid's version of DC.
Anonymous No.149993301
>>149991154
>Absolute Green Arrow
didn't they announce this?
It's done by the writer of The Good Asian
Anonymous No.149993375
>>149981832 (OP)
WW > MM > Batman > Superman > Flash >>>>>>>>> GL
Anonymous No.149993463 >>149993611
>>149992700
It's just dumb and silly, it isn't for everyone for sure.
Anonymous No.149993473
>>149981832 (OP)
DARKSEID
IMPRISONING ME
ALL THAT I SEE
ABSOLUTE BATMAN
Anonymous No.149993603 >>149993611
>>149992700
It's fun. We're having fun. Just go with it.
Anonymous No.149993611 >>149993635
>>149993463
>>149993603
I like my fun not being absolutely braindead though. Something can still be fun without being outright retarded, the best action movies are the ones that have a bit of thought behind them.
Anonymous No.149993635
>>149993611
Not saying you hate fun, being completely retarded but played straight will genuinely just not be for everyone.
Anonymous No.149995065 >>149997513
still cant believe this BTFO ultimate marvel 2.0
Anonymous No.149996108 >>149997847
>>149991154
They should totally do Static here, he's semi popular but DC has always failed to integrate him into the universe for some reason, they could easily establish him here while there's not too many other characters being focused on
Dunno what the missing element of his story would be though (or if they're still even doing that, Green Arrow still has his riches and his archery skills?)
Anonymous No.149997339
>>149981832 (OP)
Absolute Batman and Martian Manhunter are the best for completely opposite reasons. Abs Bats is just fucking violent insanity and it's frankly kind of refreshing just because there's no crazy bat epic magic hooey fooey, it's just a psychotic gorilla in a city with other psychotic gorillas and they're all out-scheming each other. Martian Manhunter meanwhile is trying to do something with its writing I do actualyl really like.

I couldn't get past the first issue of Absolute Wonder Woman, I don't think it was bad, I just wasn't sold on it.

Absolute Superman I'm following kinda tentatively, but it's still spinning its wheels a bit too much for my taste.

Absolute GL I haven't even read, I don't care. They had a chance to do it with one of the lesser used GLs instead of a new OC and wasted it.

Absolute Flash has been spinning its wheels even harder than Absolute Superman, to its serious detriment.
Anonymous No.149997513
>>149995065
I can't believe you expected Ultimate Marvel 2.0 to be any good. And I say this as a Marvelfag.
Anonymous No.149997652 >>149997755
>>149981832 (OP)
There is something bothering me about Absolute Superman but can't I understand exactly what. Very often I had to re-read pages because I spaced out, it's not quite boredom but I felt zero engagement reading the comic. Any thoughts why I feel this way?
Anonymous No.149997755
>>149997652
Cool ideas not executed in an interesting way
Superman himself isn't really a defined character yet
Is slow in general on top of all that
Anonymous No.149997847
>>149996108
>DC has always failed to integrate him into the universe for some reason
Has to do with Dwayne McDuffie's co-ownership of all the Milestone characters, including Static. They just figured everything out legally with his widow, so Milestone characters are being included in the DC Universe again. There's a Batman Beyond crossover coming out in November.
Anonymous No.149998168 >>149998233 >>149999392
>>149984595
>It and dark patterns are the only good DC titles period.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH AQUAMAN?
Anonymous No.149998233
>>149998168
1. Itโ€™s simply not very good
2. The beard is retarded
3. Him having meraโ€™s powers is retarded
After years of garbage since the last good run (abnett) I wanted a return to normalcy. Not some shaken up status quo bullshit.

But really, the nitpicks aside, itโ€™s just not very good. Not offensive or anything just firmly mid.
Anonymous No.149999392
>>149998168
Is it anything like his Flash? That was boring. Low-stakes family adventures aren't super entertaining to everyone.