Thread 149982785

Do you believe in superhero fatigue?

I believe in magic.
Of a young girl's heart

>>149982785 (OP)
I believe in nigger fatigue. And chud fatigue. And tranny fatigue. And OP fatigue.

>>149982825
You can't say that word here.

We're slowly going back to a time when only Spider-Man was making billions. Everyone else is just gonna flop or do average like the old days.

>>149982861
Watch me. NIGGERS! What are mods gonna do? Ban me? Rape me? Call my grandma?

>>149982906
I meant chud.

DC Studios is only just now building back up the brand after a string of garbage movies that ended with the Joker’s crust getting busted. Superman was never going to be a box office smash hit because of the brand’s damaged reputation. It’s an uphill battle.
MCU put out way too much garbage due to cockiness and thinking they can just throw shit at the wall and have people show up to it. Cap 4 and Thunderbolts were never going to make money. Nobody likes Sam Wilson’s Cap and Thunderbolts has too many characters that nobody gives a fuck about in it. Their most successful movies since Endgame (Spider-Man: Far From Home & No Way Home, Deadpool & Wolverine) were starring Marvel’s most popular properties (Spidey & X-Men).

>>149982919
i thought you meant op

>>149982785 (OP)
>a Fantastic Four movie grossed more than a Captain America movie
That's the real shocker here. Until you remember that it was Falcon.

>>149982942
It wasn't tranny?

>>149982785 (OP)
Fantastic Four would’ve been a hit if RDJ’s Doom had a more prominent role in it, but any time the MCU adapts a hero that’s been done before, Feige and his crew are so absolutely hellbent on changing everything about it. “OH, WE GOTTA MAKE IT FRESH! WE CAN’T DO ANYTHING THE PREVIOUS MOVIES DID! WE CAN’T HAVE DOCTOR DOOM IN ANY CAPACITY EXCEPT FOR TWO SECONDS AT THE END!” and it’s fucking stupid.

>>149982958
exactly. it was sam wilson in an incredible hulk sequel, carrying a shield that doesn’t belong to him

>>149982785 (OP)
Superhero films are where Westerns are but they got there a lot faster.

>>149982958
>>149983025
Cope wyte bois

>>149982919
That's why I say it. To make your kind upset.

>>149983043
Did they? You can argue superhero movies have been in the zeitgeist for 30+ years.

>>149983045
sam is a lot like miles morales. they both stole a white superhero’s name and marvel is demanding everyone to accept it.

Do people even go the theatre anymore, I thought covid basically wiped the business model out.

>>149983129
>inadvertently admitting you never leave the basement
fuckin yikes

>>149983112
Not quite. Sam being Cap in the comics was a short fad that failed and he went back to the Falcon persona. They didn't keep forcing him like they do Miles.

>>149983140
I'm just going by my area, two of the local theatres shut down in the last 5 years.
If I want to see a movie I gotta take an hour twenty drive to the city.
Is this just a city slicker's thing?

>>149983150
And then he went back for MCU synergy. She's stupid.

>>149982785 (OP)
all I know is I haven't watched a single super hero movie after age of ultron

>>149983129
yeah, they saw Lilo and Stitch

>>149982785 (OP)
>Do you believe in the thing in front of your eyes?
I don't know, may I see Lois panties again?

>>149983208
>She's stupid.
who?

>>149983129
That's what these threads ignore. No one's going to a movie theater for ANYTHING anymore. It costs too much. Every time I go to a movie theater, it's a ghost town. Everywhere has shut down their ticketing boxes, you order on a kiosk, Fandango, or at the overworked concession stand. I haven't been in a full theater, even on opening night, in years, outside of F4 and Superman.

I slightly believe in superhero fatigue, but it's not like anything else is filling the space. It's movie fatigue.

>>149982785 (OP)
What were the last 3 non-comic book film to hit pass $700 million

>>149982785 (OP)
There's no fatigue.... People are just more wary about bad movies.

They wanna see something GOOD.

>>149982785 (OP)
I know a jeet posted that, but wouldn't that actually be "normal" given extended trends and the 14-year bubble was an abnormality?

>>149982785 (OP)
Chongs have figured out how to make predictable inoffensive blockbusters for themselves after Disney went all in on China and gave them the blueprint

Nothing is wrong, things are going back to normal

>>149982785 (OP)
The box office is still down like 25% since covid and doesn't seem like it is improving unless something truly goes viral like Barbenheimer.

I believe in shit movies fatigue.

>>149982906
>Call my grandma?
call her what
>>149982803
Do you believe in life after love?

>>149982785 (OP)
>FF
>525
LOL

No shot, maybe 505

>>149983499
The last actually good MCU movie was The Winter Soldier. Before that they were generally pretty good. Cap 1, IM1, Thor 1, all pretty good and hold up.

Actually I’d even say Strange 1 fucks. But the rest are just mid grade shag or garbanzo beans.

>>149982785 (OP)
Still solid numbers for a 2025 box office. Even Jurassic Park couldn't get the billy. Mission fucking Impossible only got like 600 million too.

They're just not going to be able to spend 200+ million on movies anymore.

It's not superhero fatigue. It's shit movie fatigue.

>>149982785 (OP)
>This is NOT normal
Actually it is normal, most superhero movies did poorly or outright bombed for the vast majority of movie history, with only a few notable exceptions like the original Superman movie or Batman '89. This is just a return to the norm, superhero stuff was always going to be a fad. There are people entering adulthood who spent the entirety of the part of their lives with a developed sense of self within the 14 years this post is talking about, eventually people just get tired of the same thing.

>>149984071
Yep. We're reverting back to before the MCU took off and before Hollywood was pandering to China. The only difference is the DVD/Blu-Ray market is now becoming even more exclusive, streaming has cut into DVD sales, cable, and theaters, and everyone has phones with 24/7 internet access wherever they go.

If movies want to survive as a luxury product, they must slash their budgets and return to marketing with American audiences in mind first.

>>149984339
Pretty much. Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man are the exceptions but that's really only because of them being the most popular super-heroes on the planet. And the MCU only really got as far as it did because of RDJ.

>>149983129
>>149983329
There are cases where people are going to the movies (live-action Lilo and Stitch, Deadpool and Wolverine, etc)

But what people also forget is not just COVID but also studios' push for streaming

>>149984071
This. People focusing on the superheroes are somehow not noticing how other stuff is doing. the latest Mission Impossible probably would've gotten way more in a pre-COVID, pre-studio streaming channels era

>>149984339
No anon, you don't understand, this one genre of entertainment dominating things is going to last forever this time, for reelz. Just like how grunge never died, or westerns, or buddy cop movies, or mystery novels, or..

>>149982785 (OP)
Thank god this fad is finally over. I don't even care if the next one is worse, please let's finally move on.

Superhero fatigue only exists for non event Superhero movies. Gunn and Feige need to start making more event movies instead of filler trash. Superman and Fantastic Four were filler films while Deadpool and Wolverine and No way home were gigantic events. People want there superhero movies to feel important not like episodes from a TV show.

>>149983087
Westerns were culturally relevant for wayyy longer. Like back to stage plays and radio shows.
Even if you just talk about film, from The Great Train Robbery to Dances with Wolves, westerns had an epic 87 year timespan as the most popular film genre.

>>149984871
Western, just like Sci-fi is a subgenre so you can tell any story you want in those settings. Superhero movies needs to acknowledge this too and start taking risks, everything is another MCU slop these days, even Superman.

>>149984914
>Mufasa: The Lion King
Wtf never heard about this before. I thought that first 3D Lion King was enough, that shit was creepy af

>>149984940
I miss when big studios with fuckloads of money understood the concept of a prestige film and would take a massive risk just to make something neat. The Wizard of Oz is a great example of that.

>>149982785 (OP)
yes,since 2012

>>149984976
They had a lot of talent back then, all those guy retired or died, the new people are all nepobabies or cali artists and their bosses make decisions based on the market team who knows shit about fuck when it comes to movies. In the past even greedy producers knew a lot about entertainment and had a lot of passion for their projects.

There is a new generaton that could replace the old ones but in the new system I don't think these kind of people will ever come back.

>>149984976
Disney ruined movies because they made so much money just exploiting IP through an assembly line.

>>149983004
Nobody cares about RDJ's Doom.

>>149985275
They could have made people care if he actually saw him do something

>>149982785 (OP)
They could just try making good movies

>>149982935
>DC Studios is only just now building back up the brand
Lmao the completely failed to capture any of the international audience besides jeets, and Americans only saw it to virtue signal about the Gaza.

>>149982785 (OP)
>This is not normal
having 2-3 movies in the same series release in the same year and take in such huge box office numbers was the abnormality.

>>149985948
This. Seems to me like things are finally starting to go back to normal

>>149982785 (OP)
I believe in shitty movie fatigue.

>>149982785 (OP)
DCChads won.

>>149984721
That model is unsustainable too because if every movie is an event movie they don't matter as much. You kinda need the smaller scale movies, just don't make that shit every fucking year.

>>149984940
>everything is another MCU slop these days, even Superman.
I rewatched Iron Man 1 last week and its hilarious how much better it is compared to the usual MCUslop.

And Im not saying just the less quips, it also is much better SHOT and mature in tone. They dedicate scenes to show random pilots in airplanes panicking as they fight Tony.

You can also notice how the camera work and photography were better, these days its mostly Close ups or plain boring shots.

>>149983329
I went to see Weapons last week and it had almost a full theater. But it got good word of mouth.

>>149983985
Civil War > everything you listed, especially Strange 1 and Thor 1

>>149987089
I think that's mostly because these movies are made entirely by committee. They start filming even before they have a script in hand and the directors barely have a voice unless they're someone like Raimi that can swing their creative dick around.

>>149987250
Ironically a lesson they learned from Iron Man, not realizing that that method is not one size fits all

>>149982785 (OP)
It's even "worse" considering Superman got carried by burgerland. Sucks that faggots like OP twatter cap mostly pay attention to capeshit cause this is normal, superhero bs been going downhill, with some obvious exceptions,since covid and other genres with way more artistic value are blooming.

>>149986567
Yeah, people's perspectives were really warped by the last generation of films.

>>149983004
FF was well into development when they decided to pivot from Kang to Doom. He was likely never going to feature in it, and they shot themselves in the foot by making people think otherwise.

>>149984071
There was an article some weeks ago that mentioned studios now see 800 mill as the gold mark, labeling it "the new 1 bill". Losing asían markets really took a blow, as well as post-covid consumer habits.

>>149987424
Difference was, while they didn't have a complete script, they knew the general gist of the story, and Favreau had a specific vision front and center. Compare that with BNW, which by reports was largely made by comitee and no one knew what they really wanted to make (and I've heard it definetly shows in the final product).

>>149982785 (OP)
they make plenty of money the gov't just confiscates like 40% of their earnings