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Anonymous No.149987367 >>149987431 >>149990325 >>149990677 >>149990714 >>149990844 >>149991315 >>149991609 >>149991755 >>149992268 >>149993751 >>149994332 >>149994371 >>149997124 >>149997429 >>149998540 >>149998689
Why doesn’t Marvel let Mayday or Annie come back in time
or cross dimensions or whatever and live in the main Marvel universe?
Anonymous No.149987431 >>149990373
>>149987367 (OP)
Kek. Yeah for some reason it slipped my mind but if Miles and Gwen can be inserted into 616, the only thing stopping them from putting Mayday and Annie there is themselves. Now they have plausible deniability with Ultimate going on. They'll just use that cope to explain why Gwen and Miles are there and not the rest.
When Ultimate gets cancelled, because comics are still not popular, even if Ultimate is going strong, then they'll trot out what they used for Mayday which is that the sales this time do matter and they are the only ones who know the true sales no matter what other outlets/people tell you.
Anonymous No.149989553
Bump
Anonymous No.149990325 >>149990339
>>149987367 (OP)
marywhoretards are so freaking dumb i swear
Anonymous No.149990339
>>149990325
go to bed, Nick
Anonymous No.149990373 >>149992632
>>149987431
What?
Anonymous No.149990677
>>149987367 (OP)
They’re not popular
Anonymous No.149990714 >>149992271
>>149987367 (OP)
They don't want to show anything Peter related that isn't misery
Anonymous No.149990844 >>149990886 >>149991016
>>149987367 (OP)
Are you seriously asking for MORE spider-people in 616?
Anonymous No.149990886 >>149990941 >>149992292
>>149990844
Which is a funny problem to have when it would've been solved by allowing Peter to grow up and have May, Annie/April and Ben
Anonymous No.149990941
>>149990886
>April
You are more likely to get your symbiote daughter of Mary Jane now than any of those other characters. It all about Richard/Benom and Kid Annie!May.
Anonymous No.149991016 >>149991140
>>149990844
Yes if they are related to Peter
Anonymous No.149991140 >>149991151 >>149991284 >>149992435
>>149991016
So Spider-bitch is in
Anonymous No.149991151
>>149991140
hottest grand daughter?
Anonymous No.149991284
>>149991140
Unless they’re related to Hawkeye.
Anonymous No.149991315 >>149991545
>>149987367 (OP)
I don't want them being taken away from their family and friends. I also don't want even more Spiders on Earth-616, especially while Peter and his clone bros are still being disrespected.
Anonymous No.149991545 >>149998926
>>149991315
Annie is already away from her family. She’s living on Loomworld (Earth 1) with Spider-Zero.
Anonymous No.149991609 >>149991628
>>149987367 (OP)
How many daughters does future Peter have??
Anonymous No.149991628 >>149991675
>>149991609
Just May and Annie/Anna-May
Middle one is Anya Corazon.
Anonymous No.149991675 >>149991781
>>149991628
Who?
And why did Peter put “May” in both his daughters’ names?
Anonymous No.149991755 >>149991847 >>149991893
>>149987367 (OP)
Mayday's series, and the character, is one of my favourites. I genuinely love it for so many reasons, not the least of which being an optimistic look at legacy and the future, whilst having a brilliant understanding of scope (Mayday may have been the 'main character', but she wasn't the centre of the universe, or the most important hero, she had her place in a wider world and didn't just become more important because she was the MC).

Her story had an ending. Defalco did the whole thing from start to open-end (excluding #51). Trotting her out and exposing her to bullshit (get fucked Slott, you jealous gelatenous turd), and Spiderverse faggotry does her no good. She's a relatively grounded street level character who is defined by her relationships and setting. Detaching her from that would make her bland and faceless.

Miles was made worse by removing him from the Ultimate Universe, he was the next generation picking up the mantle in a broken world because there was nobody left to do so. A tiny fish in an empty pond because all the big fish had already been eaten. Take him from that and he's just... A nice guy who wants to be Spider-Man just because. Half his supporting cast and villains are reskins, missing, or hand-me-downs. Spider-Gwen is the same problem times a thousand. She was reduced to nothing more than a name and costume, and now she doesn't even have those.

Nobody who likes Mayday should want her paraded around with all the things that mattered gutted from her. If Defalco wanted to make a cute follow-up miniseries about how she's grown, that'd be fun. Anything else? Let her rest. Appreciate that we had a good thing, and let it go.
Anonymous No.149991781
>>149991675
Because they're daughters from different universes, and he wanted to name them after his aunt (who was dead in both universes).

May for just Aunt May, and Anna-May for both Aunt May and Mary-Jane's Aunt Anna, who had also passed and essentially raised MJ away from her abusive parents.
Anonymous No.149991847 >>149991920 >>149998842
>>149991755
What about Spiderling Anna May though?
Anonymous No.149991893
>>149991755
I think they could do it with Anna May though. Just like Rachel Summers.

You could have her in the main Marvel earth and interact with other Slott creations like Bailey Briggs, Maka and Cindy Moon.
Anonymous No.149991920 >>149991966
>>149991847
It took considerable time for Mayday to win Peter's approval and blessing to be Spider-Girl, and she fought hard to earn it. The other girl never had to work for the right to wear the webs and so it feels hollow and ultimately insulting.
Anonymous No.149991966 >>149992070
>>149991920
Which is why Spiderling works better as someone to send back in time and live in the same world as present day Peter and Mary Jane.
Anonymous No.149992070 >>149992139
>>149991966
She works better by not existing at all.
Anonymous No.149992139 >>149998842
>>149992070
Naw. Bring her to the present day and see her mother as Venom in this reality. Have her interact with the other spiders. She already is friends with Anya and Miles.
Anonymous No.149992268
>>149987367 (OP)
Because that is a shit idea and you re a shit anon.

Mayday was good precisely because it was well written in a self contained universe where shit could matter.
Anonymous No.149992271
>>149990714
This
The whole reason they don't exist in the 616 is Marvel has decided Peter can't settle down and have kids. If alt versions of the characters were brought to the 616 permanently Peter would undoubtable show up in their comic and play a mentor/fatherly roll. MJ would find out about it and would probably want to get involved. This sound a lot like Pete and MJ raising kids together and as much as you or I might want that, Marvel does not.
Anonymous No.149992292
>>149990886
Peter must always be a teen because that is the audience he hooks. Anyone else is considered a lame spin off.Original flavor must always be a suffering man child with wacky romances.
Anonymous No.149992435 >>149992677
>>149991140
Anonymous No.149992489 >>149992533
If Spider-Man got a mutant girlfriend, would he end up with a child from the future showing up before conception?
Anonymous No.149992533
>>149992489
its weird how often that happens
Anonymous No.149992632 >>149992704
>>149990373
I'm saying Marvel is being hypocritical about Miles and Gwen with them getting preferential treatment because they were made during the BND editorial's reign (now) over the books.
They'll go to the ends of the earth to prop them up and leave nothing for Mayday or Annie because they were made to tide over people unhappy with Marvel regressing the books.
They have plausible deniability because they can use excuses for fans dissatisfied with Amazing right now. They'll just say to read Ultimate.
But Ultimate just like any comic that isn't a legacy title that had a great run back then, will decline in sales over a long enough time period.
Marvel may be more strict about Ultimate's sales and will cancel it because of their hatred for their own arguments being used against them.
That argument being that if consumers buy a book they will continue making it. Marvel has said this all the time and we distilled it into Slott's "muh sales" argument. He alongside Lowe also say only Marvel knows the sales and that gives them room to cancel books for that reason with no evidence or further explanation.
But yeah I don't want them to be brought to the 616 anyway.
Anonymous No.149992677
>>149992435
Source?
Anonymous No.149992704 >>149992787
>>149992632
But Spiderling was created during the BND era as well.
Anonymous No.149992787
>>149992704
Yes that is why I added to that and said it is because she is related to MJ and to a universe where overall arc to arc plot progression and character development can occur. Those books are for people unhappy with the regression that occurred when they had the miscarriage and OMD happen.
Anonymous No.149992818 >>149992885 >>149993032
>Mayday starts living in 616
>visits her alternate dimension dad regularly
>his life is in a constant state of getting worse
This could only lead to two things, garbage writing where Mayday doesnt give enough of a shit to help in any meaningful way, or Mayday actually gives a damn and Spider-man becomes a 2 person job on a regular basis.
Anonymous No.149992885 >>149993032 >>149993049
>>149992818
>This could only lead to two things, garbage writing where Mayday doesnt give enough of a shit to help in any meaningful way
It would just be this and everyone would be angry she doesn't care about her "dad". no one would be happy with the situation.
Bonus points for editorial making MJ's stance that she doesn't care about her daughter.
Anonymous No.149993032
>>149992818
>>149992885
Just use the Rachel Summers method where she was far away in Britain at the time her parents were in New York.

So instead of New York City, have Annie May live on the west coast.
Anonymous No.149993049 >>149993166
>>149992885
They could outright have her call Peter a fake because he is lacking what was good about her father.
Anonymous No.149993166
>>149993049
Yeah, that tracts. She tells him that he's her dad but she refuses to call him that because he's shit compared to her real dad.
Melodrama over not wanting to be connected with him in any larger stuff.
Anonymous No.149993751 >>149994044
>>149987367 (OP)
Spider-Pussy
Anonymous No.149994044 >>149994230
>>149993751
would it be higher than normal viscosity or tighter since regen abilities
Anonymous No.149994230
>>149994044
Tighter
Anonymous No.149994314 >>149994536
They can come to 616 but they must acknowledge miles as the true spider-man and glaze him 24/7
Anonymous No.149994332
>>149987367 (OP)
It's already crowed there, just keep them where they are.
Anonymous No.149994359
Don't know, but Mayday is going to appear in MTG.
Anonymous No.149994371
>>149987367 (OP)
Because only Mayday is somewhat interesting. Annie was better as a kid but unfortunately she's forever cursed to be part of Spider-verse events.
Anonymous No.149994536
>>149994314
Already done
Anonymous No.149994574 >>149995810
Bring Annie to the present with time travel.
Anonymous No.149995810
>>149994574
Which Annie?
Anonymous No.149997124 >>149997233
>>149987367 (OP)
MaryCuntFags......
Anonymous No.149997233
>>149997124
You're pathetic.
Anonymous No.149997429
>>149987367 (OP)
You may as well ask why no one has gone forward in time to rescue Nathan Grey from become Cable and Strife.
The writers and editors do not desire so.
Anonymous No.149998540 >>149998570
>>149987367 (OP)
The Spider-Man franchise needs to go away. It's way too bloated.
Anonymous No.149998570
>>149998540
This but x-men too
Anonymous No.149998689
>>149987367 (OP)
Because modern writers would ruin may and have said as much many times.
Anonymous No.149998842
>>149991847
I liked Anna-May's series (although nowhere near to the same degree), and she's less tied to her setting, with the exception of her parents. However, she was still a very young and weak character. Her presence in the Spiderverse crap feels like an insane escalation for her considering her skillset in the Renew Your Vows ongoing series.

All that aside, it just makes me ask the question; why? What benefit would using Anna-May, with her specific history, have over creating a purpose built character to meet Peter/MJ if you really wanted that?

>>149992139
>See MJ as Venom
This seems to be the best reason to use her, but even then it feels tenuous to me. Her experience with Venom was when she was a baby and too young to remember. You could fudge it that she feels deeply unsettled by it for reasons she can't fully understand, but it's not adding a ton.
Anonymous No.149998926
>>149991545
If you haven't seen the infinity comic, she is back with her parents and doing diners with MC2 Parkers and her family since RVY and MC2 peter are super bros, she still hates herself for letting the shatra shit happen.
She also helped another alternative spider who got lost in her earth alongside wolverine.
In any case, Mayday and Anna May are the best Daughters Peter and Mary Jane ever had til now.