Thread 149987871

Is Gooseworx a hack?

Gooseworx is based for making /co/ seethe.

>>149987871 (OP)
Yeah he kind of is

Yeah but not for plaigerism, for writing like a teenager.

>>149987871 (OP)
No, she just wears her inspirations on her sleeve
>inb4 >she, >her
If they don't make it their whole personality, are generally cool and chill, and haven't fucked their Alzheimer's-addled mother, I respect their preferred identity.

>>149987880
This. /co/ hates a success story, it's a total mystery why

>>149987871 (OP)
Yes, but so are 80% of current year creators, which makes her just average at worst. At the very least they have more tact than Vivzie, and their premise doesn't pull a bait and switch like helluva boss.
>downside is they definitely are contributing to the creative crisis where artists are designing marketable products first and worrying about story and world building later
>can't be too mad tho because on the opposite spectrum you got the ugly dumpster fire that is Monkey Wrench

>>149987902
There are parts of your identity outside your control. Gender is one of them. Unless you want to respect my identity as a 70 year old and start sending me social security checks.

>>149988380
"I respect their preferred identity" =/= "I will help you commit benefits fraud."

>>149987902
You have no spine and are the reason the West is about to be mating pressed by China.

>>149988618
>I don't believe pre-pubescent children should be given medical intervention because a boy says he'd like to wear a dress, or that adults should "guide" children down that path without their parents' knowledge or consent
>you have no spine
Okay...

>>149987880
We need more posts celebrating /co/ getting angry about something

>>149987891
I can tell by your ip address that you’ve posted in /lgbt/ get real

>>149987880
What are other things that make /co/ seethe?

Fake women are hacks by default so yes.

>>149988671
Girl/girl

>>149988585
>He says while disrespecting my identity
So hypocritical

>>149988380
It would be my honor to help you defraud the federal government.

>>149988804
The difference is, I know your example is an insincere shit-test, like the actual autogynephiles who use the "trans" identity as a shield for their toxic egotism.

>>149988843
Doesn't make it any less valid. If you concede that an empirical fact is determined by one's feelings rather than reality then you have no reason to deny anyone's delusions for any reason. Either be consistent or admit you're being hypocritical in your assessment.

>>149988882
>If you concede that an empirical fact is determined by one's feelings rather than reality
I don't. I literally say it in my first post. >>149987902

>>149987902
>haven't fucked their Alzheimer's-addled mother,
never happened

>>149988909
You're literally conceding an empirical fact to respect Gooseworx's delusions of being a woman. It's literal hypocrisy to give him a pass just because he's not as annoying as others are about it.

>>149988925
Oh... you never heard about it?

>>149988950
No I know what you're referring too. It never happened.

>>149988843
>I know
But how would you know? It is all in the mind, isn't it.

>>149987871 (OP)
SHINEY!!

>>149987880
This, /co/ is just Armond White if he was a message board, everything that's considered a general consensus on /co/ should always be taken as the opposite of the truth

>>149987880
fpbp

>>149987871 (OP)
Yes, but also, it doesn’t really matter. Goose’s creative clumsiness has led to her falling ass backwards into unprecedented luck and success for an indie show. Now Goose has, for better or worse, been put on an echelon of creator that no matter what she makes good or back, hackneyed or quality, it will have an audience. I honestly hope by some miracle I have even a fraction of this luck with my projects, and I’d be happy.

>>149987871 (OP)
Gooseworx is my girlfriend she just doesn't know it yet

>>149987871 (OP)
/co/ cucks having a meltdown when a reference is to an old cartoon and not the 10000th akira bike slide

>>149989880
how exactly has she lucked out and fallen ass backwards into organizing a team of animators to make an actual pilot. I don't even like Goose, much preferred her old stuff, but this feels like a spiteful or jealous reach

Is GoOsEwOrX a HaCk?

It's trannycore content for trannies with not so thinly veiled identity theming and existential conflicts
I mean it's not amazing or deep or anything, but I'm getting exactly what I expected out of it and it's mainly played straight and doing a decent enough job of it.

>>149988664
I can tell by your ip address that you post in blacked threads

>>149991382
>trannycore
Literally what does this mean?

>>149987880
Goose is the most based troon. As far as I'm concerned because of the level of seethe caused, she's okay with me. Yes she.

>>149987902
It's not a matter of respect, gender isn't something you can change. He's a man, man.
>>149988843
>The difference is, I know your example is an insincere shit
Yeah, trans.

>she
>her
You're all either troons or enabling troons and I won't feel sorry for you if your opposition gets so sick of your bullshit that they go beyond rolling back your privileges.

gender and sex are different concepts intuitively, and I don't care if the guy who said it was a pedophile either
girly things are gender, immutable biological sex is sex
why should "she/her" necessarily be tied to biological sex outside of convention?
that has nothing to do with science and everything to do with language

>>149987871 (OP)
Wait, people actually thought he had an original bone in his body?

>>149991458
You'd have a point of they didn't get mad if someone didn't use their "preferred" pronouns.
Sadly they do, so they very much DO think specific words should be tied to specific things.

>>149991468
>characters with sets of teeth for a head existed before Caine
No, really? Next you're gonna tell me Gooseworx didn't invent jesters, either...

>>149991528
why wouldn't you be bothered if people went out of their way to refer to you in a way that you asked them not to
just because "FUCK YOU FAGGOT" is ultimately a bunch of words doesn't mean that there isn't intent behind them
0.01% of all trannies would think that they're actually biologically female

>>149991401
Literally made by a tranny
Has an actual trans character
Trans character's entire theming is not being comfortable with their body while some poorly well intentioned invasive psycho tries to force them to be okay with it
It's so overtly about being trans and that character is simply there to be trans.
I'm not going to say I have a problem with it or that the show is only about trannies but it has everything trannies love like anime and depression and millennial humor.

>>149991592
You'd have a stronger point if that character was the A-character. They're not, that would be Pomni.

>>149991584
>why wouldn't you be bothered if people went out of their way to refer to you in a way that you asked them not to
Doesn't matter. Why do they get to tell anyone what words they can/can't use for stuff, outside of convention?
>0.01% of all trannies would think that they're actually biologically female
Doesn't matter since we've established that pronouns shouldn't be related to biological sex anyway. And as such I can also have them not be related to gender either, and I should just use the words that make me the most comfortable.

>>149987871 (OP)
The mark of a successful creator is to take something and make it so good that people don't care if it's blatantly stolen from something else.

>>149991652
>Why do they get to tell anyone what words they can/can't use for stuff, outside of convention?
they asked you to do it, they aren't the police
>we've established that pronouns shouldn't be related to biological sex anyway. And as such I can also have them not be related to gender either, and I should just use the words that make me the most comfortable.
>shouldn't
>can
>should
lot of words to say "I am going to do what I want to"
I couldn't care less what you do, but don't act like calling a tranny a man isn't an obvious faux-pas. And for the love of God, don't pretend you've got any kind of ""scientific backing"" to do so.

>>149991700
>they asked you to do it
Why would they ask people to speak in a certain way if the words they want to hear has no meaning?
>lot of words to say "I am going to do what I want to"
Oh so NOW we're meant to attach meaning to words.
>but don't act like calling a tranny a man isn't an obvious faux-pas
It very much isn't. Maybe in California, but most of the rest of the world wouldn't care, and more than likely would join in.
>I couldn't care less what you do, but don't act like calling the Earth round isn't an obvious faux-pas. And for the love of God, don't pretend you've got any kind of ""scientific backing"" to do so.
lol

>>149991757
>if the words they want to hear has no meaning?
is that what you think I meant?
words have meanings agreed upon by people
trannies have created a different understanding of specific words
there is nothing inconsistent nor scientifically incorrect with their usage of these words, which is the SOLE argument i have an interest in pursuing. i couldn't care less about changing your mind specifically
i was in no way attacking the notion of convention itself

>>149991816
>i was in no way attacking the notion of convention itself
>why should "she/her" necessarily be tied to biological sex outside of convention?
I don't know anon, unless you were arguing that convention is the only reason needed, that certainly looks like you're dismissing convention, in favor of words just meaning what someone wants them to.

>Respecting made up pronoun shit
KEK

use (heil/hitler)

>>149991945
More of an agree to disagree approach, really.
I stick with biological and technological women.

>>149991919
>you're dismissing convention, in favor of words just meaning what someone wants them to
anon
that... is convention? if you make that "someone" plural, then that's just what convention is already
convention can stand on it's own, but it can't stand higher than itself
if the ONLY reason was convention, then there is always room for argumentation (I.E. new conventions)

I'm waiting for Goose's public meltdown that tanks all the goodwill she's acquired over the years. Feels inevitable.

>>149992125
That can wait until TADC concludes.
Keep Yourself Safe, silly Goose.

my wife has gotten super deep into TADC over the last year and has the merch and everything. Somehow she hasn’t learned that gooseworks is a tranny and I don’t have the heart to tell her (she hates trannys)

>>149992615
does she think Goose is bio female or a man

>>149987871 (OP)
Whats the sun on the left from?

>>149991401
shows made for and by trannys. Can you not critically think? It’s not hard to understand what anon meant

>>149987902
>she
>her

>>149992098
No, because it would always start out as an outlier, and not conventional.
The way trannies use pronouns or man/woman are not conventional, and even people who want to play along have a hard time trying to stick to it and keep falling back on it being tied to sex.
If convention matters to a word's meaning, then trannisms are nonsense, and if not then the meaning of words can be made up by anyone.

>>149992625
bio woman. The only place I’ve ever seen anybody ever address gooseworkxs as being a tranny is here. Everywhere else will say she her woman etc with a straight face. It’s probably going to break my heart when she finds out because she hasn’t been so invested in something since nier automata and that was nearly a decade ago

>>149992680
If you really love her, then you must keep gaslighting™ her.

>>149991097
>how exactly has she lucked out and fallen ass backwards into organizing a team of animators to make an actual pilot.
Because numbnuts, several other creators have done exactly what you just said and have arguably made better pilots of better quality, but they didn’t get anywhere near the algorithmic promotion that Goose got. I don’t mean Goose fell backwards into making a pilot, that’s just a retarded misinterpretation on your end. I mean that the pilot’s overwhelming popularity doesn’t reflect the quality present within the show. Also, considering that Goose has expressed regret of it ever growing the way it did anyway, aswell as ask for writing advice/tips, I’m sure they’d be inclined to agree.

>>149992971
>Because numbnuts, several other creators have done exactly what you just said and have arguably made better pilots of better quality, but they didn’t get anywhere near the algorithmic promotion
Holy fucking shit this really is the final level of cope for every bitter retard isn't it?

>>149987880
He's an inflationfag. No better than dobson

>>149993213
>bitter retard
Sounds like projection of a coping TADCfan to me. I started this whole diatribe with saying that it doesn’t matter if Goose is a hack or not because Goose is successful, and that’s all that really matters, regardless of quality. It’s a point of admiration. But whatever, I guess I’m bitter then. Whateve fits your narrative pal. Keep uncritically slurping that T-Girl dick, maybe it’ll get you a job one day.

>>149993390
I'm not talking about just you I'm in awe at how this sort of discussion always circles back to the "fucking omissiah didn't bless me and thats why I'm not successful". To address your point specifically, no there really hasn't been anything like TADC uploaded to YouTube as far as I'm aware and there's almost certainly nothing that would have become as big if only the almighty algorithm gave it a boost.

>>149987871 (OP)
>composes all the digital circus ost
>writes it
>does all the character designs
>hack

Fucking how?

>Give a intelligent platform to a drugged teenager
>They act lame and stupid for attention
>wtf bros I hate trannies

>>149992971
>several other creators have done exactly what you just said and have arguably made better pilots of better quality
Name 5.

>>149993555
they just really don't like the writing

>>149993626
And? Who does the writing congratulate? Yes, just the artist itself.

>>149993555
>composes all the digital circus ost
cowriter evan alderete helped gooseworx with half the OST
>writes it
the writing is said to be the weakest part of TADC. with its pacing being particularly egregious
>does all the character designs
the character design of TADC is mostly just pre existing things. ragatha is raggedy anne, kinger and gangle are objects, pomni is a cartoon harlequinn, zooble is a zoobie. its not exactly the bastion of creativity.
>hack
yes.

>>149987902
I love how everyone responding to this fixates on the trans argument and not the argument actually relevant to the topic of the thread

>>149987880
/thread

>>149992631
>shows made for and by trannys
That only half-applies to TADC.

>>149991658
Gooseworx has not accomplished this

>>149987871 (OP)
Is this another "anything set in Africa with a lion as the protagonist is a ripoff of Kimba" situation?

>>149994815
Its a 'any character with super strength is a Superman ripoff' situation

>>149994783
/co/ is not a real place, outside of here nobody gives a piss that Goose borrowed ideas from stuff

>>149994929
I care and my opinion is the only one that matters because 1. I experience reality from my point of view and 2. I have better taste in media than you.

>>149994985
nah you're just a fag who obsesses over trannies 24/7.

>>149994815
It's not even any one thing, OP is pretty much calling Goose a "hack" for borrowing inessential design elements from other sources, as if people haven't been influenced by whatever media they like since the dawn of humans expressing creativity.
>Hey, Gug, that cave painting you made looks really similar to Lug's. Got something to say for yourself?
>... Tug, I'm probably the second person ever to paint something in a cave, what?

>>149995032
It's just not a very interesting show for the amount of attention it gets. I don't think I laughed once in the entire pilot.

>>149994985
No man is an island bro

>>149995032
The only reason people on this board don't shit their pants with rage over Star Wars is because they're too young to know what Flash Gordon is, if they did they'd clutch their pearls so fucking hard

>>149995136
I disagree. I think it deserves couple hundred more million views per episode. It's very good, especially as the story develops. You should watch the rest of it.