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>All wincons being debunked
No one gives an actual argument against Hulk Green Dooring Ultima, let alone stuff like absorbing the energy of every avatar and Ultima himself, literally just being able to punch him out of existence via scaling to Eternity and First Firmament’s informational level existence, BFRing Ultima to the Below Place so it gets rawdogged by TOBA, negging his immortality and invulnerability with gamma, etc.
>No real methods to kill Godzilla
Other than everything I just said.
>Resist
Yes, they may as well be flat out immunities, because no one can post Godzilla doing anything on the level of what Hulk’s fought and survived. Causality manipulation? Mephisto’s 10 times stronger than Ultima and he couldn’t do anything to Hulk. Energy absorption? No one can show one example of Godzilla having better absorption than Absorbing Man or Ross. Soul/mind manipulation? Hulk has so much control over his own mind and soul that he can come up with elaborate torture chambers to bully Banner for eternity. TOBA himself couldn’t mess with his soul for billions of years and Leader, while boosted by TOBA, couldn’t hollow out Banner’s soul. Godzilla has nothing on that.
>Less hypothetical wincons
Show me one, just one, example of Ultima writing someone out of a story. Go on.
>All debunks are constantly rebunked
By who? People who don’t want to hear that their interpretation of an untranslated novel is wrong? People who don’t actually give any real arguments against those debunks?
>Can actually kill Hulk
With what? Removing his and Banner’s connection? Green Door stops that. Absorbing his energy? Hulk has better absorption feats and better resistances. Writing him out of the story? Got an example of it doing that?
>”Depends on the interpretation”
Notice how you’re not able to say why these statements are incorrect? If your defense for Ultima is “just trust me”, maybe it’s a good thing that people don’t take it seriously.