Thread 149995706

How would you improve this movie? I start:
>don't beat the jokes to death

>>149995706 (OP)
Keeping it shelved.

>>149995706 (OP)

Make it a kids movie about dogs having a wild night before Bull moves to a new house instead of being neutered

>>149995706 (OP)
Make Bull less of a blabbering nuisance. Besides that, i liked the movie, gay sex and all.

>>149995706 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/mecoqj.mp4

>>149996177
Is Bull getting raped mainstream knowledge yet or is it contained to FIXEDfags/haters?

The ball biting idea that one anon had.

>>149996355
The what?

>>149996307
It wasn't rape, he moved his asshole to catch Sterling's cock. Unless you mean Sterling getting raped technically as he never consented to fucking Bull's asshole.

>>149996403
Rape?
You ever been to a dog park, half the playing turns into humping regardless of gender.

>>149996454
yeah but no penetration

>>149995861
You know, honestly, a kid-friendly version of The Hangover or Bachelor Party with dogs sounds pretty fun.

>>149996489
Depends if the owner is watching. I take my dog to the dog park, and sometimes (not always) there are some horny mother fuckers.

>>149995706 (OP)
The plot was functionally sound, hitting all the beats, but it was bogged down with its compulsion to prove every minute that this is adult. It had already earned its R-rating with the sex scenes and balls. Defenders are right to say an adult comedy doesn't need heavy, mature themes like Fritz The Cat, but half the swears could've been swapped with more visual gags or characterization. The weed scene probably existed as an excuse for Genndy and Scott Wills to get visually experimental, only it didn't go far enough, so it just came across as another "we have this R-rating, let's put drugs in there". During the 14 years Genndy spent trying to sell this, I would've expected him to plan each sequence to perfection, rather than merely indulge in being "for adults" with jokes that felt peppered in at the last moment. It's the parts everyone seems to be mad at that hold up the movie, like the gay rape, because that's when it's being original with its humor and increased animation quality.

>>149996525
the dogs or the owners?

I also watched Steve's video

>>149996604
The gay rape scene is good.

>>149995706 (OP)
I would have made it funny and taken out the gay rape

>>149995706 (OP)
Tone down the cursing, having the characters do it every line of dialogue takes away the punch

This movie has so much dialogue and yet there are few to no funny quotes

>>149996848
what the fucking fuck dude...you don't think fucking swearing is fucking funny? what the fuck?

>>149996663
These people disagree.
>>149996767
>>149996355
>>149995861
Every anon's suggestion in the last few threads would only have made this movie more generic than it already is. It's because of the generic adult comedy stuff that's already in Fixed that when something unique happens, people are put off.

>>149995706 (OP)
Make is actually sexy

>>149996604
>During the 14 years Genndy spent trying to sell this, I would've expected him to plan each sequence to perfection
I probably thought this was how long-planned animation projects were developed, but I lon longer think it's true, at least for Genndy. If you watch Unicorn it's obvious that the actual episodes were worked out only after getting green lit.
>It's the parts everyone seems to be mad at that hold up the movie, like the gay rape, because that's when it's being original with its humor
agreed, it's so out there it's memorable (dare I say funny), compared to the "celebrities improving "fuck" in the recording booth" dialogue that feels played out

>>149996604
>During the 14 years Genndy spent trying to sell this, I would've expected him to plan each sequence to perfection
I probably thought this was how long-planned animation projects were developed, but I no longer think it's true, at least for Genndy. If you watch Unicorn it's obvious that the actual episodes were worked out only after getting green lit.
>It's the parts everyone seems to be mad at that hold up the movie, like the gay rape, because that's when it's being original with its humor
agreed, it's so out there it's memorable (dare I say funny), compared to the "celebrities improvising "fuck" in the recording booth" dialogue that feels played out

>>149996944
When a movie has problems, people use it as free reign to criticize things that aren't problems. I saw a lot of anons saying to get rid of the balls/buttholes and actually make the dogs sexy when Genndy put that shit in the movie so it stays "silly sex" and doesn't cross the line into actual furry. The "human style" gag is like a one-off joke, but imagine how much more backlash there'd be if the whole movie was like that.

>>149997222
Unicorn was indeed a sorry sum made up of some good parts, much like Fixed. And I agree on the dialog. Genndy said in an interview he added a load of dialog in order to sell the script, and then took it out. I'd hate to read what dialog was cut.

>>149997296
What Fixed doesn't leave to the imagination deflates the desire to see what it does by making it a joke. It isn't outright porn (missing genitals), nor is it merely suggestive (lumpy hairy balls and puckered buttholes). To have no balls/butts at all would appeal to furries more, as any potential sex appeal is undercut (and I'm talking about for guys like >>149997020 ). It seems paradoxical and took some suspension of disbelief, but I think it was the only way for this type of movie to go. Related, Genndy said the CG tests got too gross.

Bump

>>149995706 (OP)
Would the work in progress version that screened in Burbank in 2022 have been much different to what was released? (I'm going to assume Cartoon Brew used an outdated concept art)

>>149999643
According to an animator, this movie took about four years to make. Given that the production wrapped just a year after this screening, whatever they saw in there was, really, just an unfinished version.

>>149999721
Yeah, and it was a while before Netflix bought it. I wonder what survives of the CG version, or any old boards.

>>149999769
All we know about the CGI version is that there was a Bull model. (duh) Genndy didn't talk too much about it and he thought the balls would look better in 2D.

>>149996307
>>149996403
If anything Bull is the rapist, raping by deception.

>>149995706 (OP)
Hardcore lipstick and spade action.

>>149999868
Hope there's a leak one day. Curious how much of the story was finished before it was successfully pitched.

>>150000060
Animators were already having hissy fits thrown at them as it is. You're making impossible demands.

Make it less dialogue-heavy and focus even more on the visuals because that's where Genndy shines.

I would just make a different movie, this feels like someone having an idea for a joke and finally gettin a chance to tell it to a big audience after long years of waiting.

>>149996944
people are probably put off because the story sucks, "unique" scenes and all, but keep defending an objective flop for free

>>149995706 (OP)
>3D CGI animation
>Spider-verse style with hand drawn flair / motion lines, low frame rate, and smear frames
>Cast James Corden as Bull, Pierce Brosnan as Rocco, Scarlett Johansson as Honey, Will Forte as Fetch, Chris Rock as Lucky, Chris Pratt as Sterling, and Awkwafina as Molasses.
>No dangling scrotums
>only a cartoonish X for the anuses
>the treats that Bull gets are Pedigree (TM), Tostino's Pizza rolls, and Kool-aid's signature Blue Raspberry Lemonade
>The cats all wear MACA hats, and want to Make America Cats Again, citing the time Cave Lions and Sabertooths ruled the continent. They want to build a wall to keep the dogs out and make the dogs pay for it.
>Rocco specifically mentions that the night on the town is not going to be forgotten like The Hangover
>Bull SAVES a Squirrel
>"I'm neither Dobermann nor Doberwomann"
>"It's KNOT what it looks like! Haha, get it?"
>Bull and friends escape the pound by distracting the guards with singing "take me home country roads" and swiping the keys when they weren't looking
>Lucky Pierre scene stays, but Bull asks "he's right behind me, isn't he" after he makes a loving confession and before the penetration happens
>Baby bull/Honey have way more scenes
>Baby dog plushies sold separately

>>149995706 (OP)
Fetch is the best character

>>150000439
This is the worst post I've read in a while. I can't tell if you're just being pissy about things you don't like or if you genuinely think anything you listed would improve the movie.

>>149995706 (OP)
Somebody suggested just making it a silent film where the animation is the same but the dogs communicate through dog barks and pantomine. I feel like whatever the audience can imagine the dogs thinking would be ten times funnier than the material written for the film. I'd also just suggest making each gag more extreme. It's too safe. If the movie wants to shock then it needs to shock. Make it crazier, make it weirder, make it more audacious.
>Make the dog park like Woodstock for dogs. Doggy depravity heaven.
>Make the alley drug trip nightmarish and trippy, like Pink Elephants crossed with the Beavis and Butthead acid trip sequence.
>Give the cats a more menacing, creepy presence. Play with the weird logic the dogs come up with. Give them a better payoff: make them part of the third-act conflict.
>Make Bull's night out more dramatic. Make squirrel chasing more than an absolute bloodbath, make it a squirrel massacre. Squirrel 9/11. Kill the squirrel in front of its family and then kill the squirrel's family. But only do all of this after the squirrel spends the whole movie fucking with the dogs and getting away with it.
>Dog gluttony. The dogs need to ENJOY the food, it should be PARADISE. Euphoria. Nirvana.
>Make the pound depressing as hell. Scary. Your last meal before you get put to sleep is dry, tasteless, sandpaper kibble. Have a scene where one of the dogs is almost put to sleep (with a gun?)
>Make the dogcatchers drunken, sadistic assholes, that way we root for the dogs to escape.
>Make the dog show eerie and alien, like the dogs are all disgusting inbred mutant dog abominations that humans adore. They act like robots. No doggy impulses. Make the tone weird, make it like the 1920's Metropolis.
>Make the yard pastoral and beautiful. This is a home Bull should love. A safe, confined yard he should never want to leave unless something drastic were to happen.
And to reiterate, MAKE IT DIALOGUE-FREE. No talking, no celebs. Only visual gags and music.

>>149995706 (OP)
Replace 2/3rds of the fucks with “bark” or “wood”, Make it so the characters are bipedal anthros but are still treated like pets by the humans, make it a musical with the dog show as an electro-swing rap number, have Lucky and Fetch become a comedic gay couple a la Timon and Pumba, and replace the rape scene with Bull and Sterling sword fighting with their dicks and sterling falling off a building into the cats from earlier in the film, where they maul him to death off screen.
Also replace the bear with a wolf, with Bull saying “well shit… guess I’m not a barking savage wolf after all”.
At least it would be better than whatever the fuck >>150000439 said.

>>149995817
OP how could you fuck this up

>>150000062
Im curious about the early story ideas i hope the script gets leaked i want to see what was cut or what was diffeent in it

>>149995706 (OP)
Get rid of the toxic male writers

>>149995706 (OP)
Just fewer swears would've bumped up Fixed by many tiers. Genndy must've forgotten that sometimes less is more

Did anyone wonder when the poster dropped which dogs where going to be characters in the film

That dog on bull i thought was going to be a character

>>150000931
There definitely needed to be another set piece with bull and his buds before they went to the dog show

>>150002626
Early character designs got leaked some time back.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/147289026/
They weren't totally sure about which breed to use for each dog, and they experimented on that.
Along with the testicles, the penile sheaths of the male dogs were visible in the early designs.
That concept art shows Bull with the character design that ended up in an early piece of promotional art, from back when they were thinking of making the movie in CGI instead of 2D (pic related).

In some interview it was stated that the dogs in the movie were inspired by Genndy's friends. There used to be a Siberian Husky named Boris who had a heavy accent and was based on Genndy himself. His character ended up cut because there were too many characters.

>>150000062
The original concept involved animal characters having a wild night out, execs told Genndy they need some kind of a hook for the story, then he asked "what if one of them is a dog and he finds out he's gonna get neutered in the morning", and that's when they bought the pitch.
https://deadline.com/2025/08/genndy-tartakovsky-interview-journey-r-rated-fixed-release-1236482145/

>>150002899
As long as I'm posting about early content, here's the first promotional image they released.

>>150002948
Mmm forgot he was brown orginally
I kind of like these early designs and i kind of would habe liked if they kept boris

>>150002899
Man lucky went through some changes and luther was originally apart of the group interesting