Thread 150016069

Voice actors want me to believe that voice acting is really hard ("PAY US WHAT WE'RE FUCKING WORTH" etc.), but it's just making silly voices. What is the hard part?

>>150016069 (OP)
Idk, can you do a soecific voice, tone for a character and do it regularly?

>>150016069 (OP)
Record a vocaroo of yourself making silly voices, let's see.

>>150016098
>>150016107
I'm worse than average at making silly voices. But I'm pretty sure if you're average or above, you can do the job.

>>150016069 (OP)
What did the fat asian dude who makes those funny short videos do

>>150016123
Voice acting isn’t just doing “silly voices” retard kun

>>150016149
Apparently he jumped on the race bandwagon regarding voice acting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25edDdER-GA

>silly voices

>>150016069 (OP)
Getting your foot in the door, apparently. Any and all newcomers are gatekept hard by those already in the industry, both the voices and the bookers.

>>150016069 (OP)
Voice acting isn't what's hard. The actual hard part is living in an expensive city like LA or Austin. That's why most VAs whine about trying to make a living off of voice acting. It's really only a sustainable job for people with money. It's also extremely competitive.

>>150016149
He supported the movement to exclusively cast non-white characters with non-white VAs only to then bitch and moan that he was only getting Asian roles afterwards. He fell for the classic "mandate seems progressive but is actually racist as shit" trickaroo.

True, it's not really "fair" that most VAs are white, but that's only because everything is fucking stuck in Austin and LA. Having a job that requires you to live in luxury cities is a luxury career, and luxury careers are only something that can be reasonably afforded by wealthier demographics (mostly Anglos and Asians). If ProZD really gave a shit about more non-white VAs getting roles, he'd be advocating and supporting VAs starting on social media and doing voice acting from their homes. Voice acting has never been easier and more financially affordable.

But ProZD doesn't actually care, he'd rather pull up the ladder just so he can keep getting roles, even if it means perpetuating an outdated system (that kinda is racist) and even if it fucks him over in the process.

>>150016182
One of the few times a dub is better than jap

>>150016156
I mean, it kinda is.

People on /co/ forget that ACTING is a part of voice acting.

>>150016256
I never understood that shit. If I made a comic, or a book, or whatever and it was getting turned into an animated series or maybe a video game. My MC could be the Whitest blondest bluest eyed motherfucker in the world but if Christopher Judge's ass from Stargate auditioned and got the role I wouldn't care. Because with animation I can have the characters look exactly like I want.

>>150016256
Had no idea he was such a woketard. RIP in piss, ProZD's career.

>>150016288
Phil Lamar voiced Samurai Jack and Aquaman, and he wants you to keep his name out of your mouth, chud, because it's totally okay when his melanated ass voices people who don't look like him . . .because it just is, okay!?!

>>150016288
Exactly.

The REAL reasons the mandates were put in were to pay lip service to terminally online liberals living in Austin and Texas and so studios can rake in ESG/DEI money just by having more non-white employees (none of which will go to the VAs or peons, of course). And so that whichever non-white VAs who do get cast will ultimately stay within the Austin and LA infrastructure.

It backfired because:

>Blackrock has pulled back on DEI/ESG and is no longer offering as much money to companies for following diversity quotas
>Investors are finally realizing they weren't making enough money as they were told and that they basically got shitcanned and were lied to
>Everyone can voice act from the comfort of their own home
>the vast majority of games and animated series are coming from Japan (which means anyone of any ethnicity can voice the characters) while less American animated series and games are being produced due to the economy going down the shitter
>some creators are getting wise to the diversity mandates and pushing for non-human casts of characters (everyone is robots, animals, demons, monsters, etc).
>anime production in Japan is going to dial back within the next ten years (their economy isn't improving, the birth rate isn't getting any better) so things will get even MORE competitive for English dubbing

>>150016069 (OP)
What is it with this fucking board and having so many people in it that just don't seem to like any part of the medium at all?

>>150016465
Just like with videogames, its base is filled with people who know next to nothing about what goes into the creation of their entertainment so it's all taken for granted.

>>150016465
Let me just go make an honest thread about a show I li-oh and everyone is calling me a faggot and saying the show sucked.

>>150016149
he is a commie fuck

>>150016069 (OP)
Look I like the guy but is he the one who asked to voice a non Asian role and the guy said " this character is isnt asian though". That always stood out to me as a 'be careful what you wish for' kinda thing

>>150016465
I feel like a lot of people that post on /co/ genuinely do not understand the kind of work that goes into making a cartoon.

How come people that claim doing X is easy never actually do it?

>>150016426
>due to the economy going down the shitter
*due to wokeshit killing the entertainment western industry
FTFY

>>150016465
This is 4chan. Every board is like that.

This site is for people who only have hobbies because they're too socially retarded to make friends or get laid and just need something to do to fill the void, not for people who actually enjoy them.

i've seen a bunch of vtubers play visual novels and do voices themselves and it's unironically sometimes way better than "offical" VA's in english dubbed shows.

>>150016465
Over the last ten years people who put any effort into posting left. We used to have group projects and interest in things. These people have been replaced by outrage tourists, autists and other assorted idiots. It doesn't help that complaining about entertainment has replaced entertainment itself, so you have a whole group of people without the slightest bit of knowledge, passion or interest starting arguments. You can't say "I liked x show" every thing has to be framed as an argument or narrative to cause a fight.

>>150016098
Not even they can do that.

>>150016595
>*due to wokeshit killing the entertainment western industry
You're not a victim straggot

>>150016700
vtubers often put on fake voices to cutify how they talk and over-emote to make the stream more entertaining, they basically get dozens of hours of voice acting experience in every week. Like it legitimately would probably be a decent idea to hire some of them for professional VA work.

>>150016736
Yeah. I watched one girl play class of 09 and she literally had THE blonde bimbo jecka voice, it was perfect.

>>150016465
>>150016515
>>150016497
>>150016639
>>150016580
>>150016716

While this is 4chan and this is to be expected, I think a less cynical view and more practical one is to look at it from a more objective view point. The more people are present in a topic, the less likely they are to agree on everything or even one thing. As the number of people in any given conversation or discussion grows, the number of people with a contrary opinion also does as well. It may seem like nobody likes anything, but that's because with a large enough sample size, you're going to find someone who hates it regardless of how popular, well made or well received it is. Confirmation bias plays a very heavy role in this as well. How many positive or thoughtful comments do you remember reading in any given thread or board? You're more likely to remember the negative ones than the positive, even if the positive actually outweigh the negative.
The only way you could possibly remedy the situation would be to punish or remove posts that are negative, and that would reduce discussion to what is tantamount to masturbation.

>/co/, /v/, and /a/ when voice actors are paid anything
LMAO why? It's SUCH an easy job ANYONE could do it and do it GOOD
>also /co/, /v/, and /a/ when there are multiple language options
Clearly the Japanese is the best version, the rest suck

Make it make sense. You can't say the second statement and then still think the first is true.

>>150016069 (OP)
you have to spend *a lot* of time on twitter to have any credibility as a VA

>>150016256
>True, it's not really "fair" that most VAs are white
All good VAs are Japanese

>>150016069 (OP)
Speaking as some who is NOT a voice actor, but who has done a bit of amatuer voiceover work as part of their vidya job (temporary VO to help animators time out cutscenes before the professionals replace it), I can say that it's a lot harder than it looks on the surface. Just emoting correctly without fucking up the script can take a surprising amount of effort.

>>150016256
>Voice acting isn't what's hard. The actual hard part is living in an expensive city like LA or Austin

And why dont they just live in a normal city and record the voices there?

>>150016728
Shut up homo

>>150016069 (OP)
>>150016123
every time. based hypocrite OP

>>150016761
>The more people are present in a topic, the less likely they are to agree on everything or even one thing.
It isn't even neccessarily about the number of people, it is about the psychology of posting and how that has changed. A lot of people want to genuinely connect with others and the modern world has made that harder to do so for various reasons you already know of. The problem with connecting over media now is that it isn't this show vs that show, it is a show vs movie vs streaming vs podcast vs videogame. We are pulled in so many directions. So how do you connect? You fall into an extreme of blind love or blind hate. Hype bubbles and people calling things overrated. And that is why it feels like everyone hates something. Hate brings community and complaining, especially about culture wars narratives, is easy. It has become entertainment in and of itself, just look at numerous Youtube videos on the topic.

A positive thread gets no traction. A positive thread requires effort. You have to frame stuff now in a negative. If I wanted to make a thread about Jack Kirby, I could make a positive thread and get a few replies or make a thread calling him overrated and go until bump limit. The issue isn't about moderating negative comments, the issue is how people who genuinely put in a bit of effort to overcome the problems left. Now we have people with very little knowledge attempt to talk about things on a surface level. I am not saying people had loads of knowledge in the past, but they honestly did have the passion to at least be interested. Knowledge is cheap now in fandom and only to be used for momentary attempts at feeling clever or getting one over someone else, rather than genuinely connection.

>>150017004
Living in Austin and LA allows you to literally drive to whoever's offering roles, but it also means the more connections and friendships you make, the more likely you are to be requested for voice acting or kept as a VA. It's about building a reputation and knowing people.

It's the difference between physically sitting near the cool kids table versus being at a nearby table but you're livestreaming from your phone.

fuck george lowe. how dare he work for money
40 yorlocks should be enough for anyone.

>>150016960
That is impressively stupid, if true.