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Anonymous No.150020838 >>150020845 >>150020860 >>150020900 >>150021353 >>150021725 >>150022421 >>150022646 >>150022855 >>150024413 >>150025181
Ashley Nichols
Turns out Zooble's va is in deep shit, guess that forgettable troon is gone lol
Anonymous No.150020845
>>150020838 (OP)
Is that Skibidi Toilet?
Anonymous No.150020860
>>150020838 (OP)
Do tell anon, I love gossip
Anonymous No.150020879
heres a cool fact, theres such a thing as matches that can ignite when wet. so youll never really need dry matches.
Anonymous No.150020900 >>150020928
>>150020838 (OP)
Now what?
Anonymous No.150020928 >>150035183
>>150020900
>troon
GEE I WONDER WHY. SURELY IT WONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WILL IT?????
Anonymous No.150020982 >>150021005 >>150021035 >>150021126 >>150021586 >>150022242 >>150022421 >>150022649 >>150023096 >>150023101 >>150023112 >>150023145 >>150023666 >>150024655 >>150026044 >>150026175 >>150026505 >>150026926 >>150029651 >>150030138 >>150031798 >>150031992 >>150032185 >>150034091 >>150034856 >>150035556
So you don’t have to go on xitter
Anonymous No.150021005 >>150021126 >>150026926 >>150030109 >>150032185 >>150034856
>>150020982
Anonymous No.150021035 >>150021078 >>150022840
>>150020982
>has to make shit up to explain why hes broke to the internet
wonder if hes aware that if was just honest people would probably respect him more
Anonymous No.150021078 >>150021125
>>150021035
>he
Pretty sure she's female---as in, born a girl
>make shit up
You know her?
Anonymous No.150021125 >>150021288
>>150021078
a real man would never post excuses after excuse after excuse.
Anonymous No.150021126 >>150021306 >>150021383 >>150021417 >>150021483 >>150024494 >>150028806 >>150029763 >>150034856
>>150020982
>>150021005

>endless medical expenses

shit country
Anonymous No.150021288
>>150021125
Excuses for what? She's just saying that she's strapped for cash and asking for support, and she's a voice actor on a really popular webseries so it's not like nobody is willing to do that for her
Anonymous No.150021306 >>150021368 >>150024034
>>150021126
Freedom ain't free, commie.
Anonymous No.150021353
>>150020838 (OP)
Is this that rabbit from the Hazbin casts that everyone crooned?
Anonymous No.150021368 >>150021822 >>150022886 >>150027730
>>150021306
>break your leg? you go broke, too!
>that sucks
>COMMIE!
How did we get psyop'd into this?
Anonymous No.150021383 >>150022277 >>150024034 >>150030193
>>150021126
You are not entitled to the labor and time of another
Anonymous No.150021417
>>150021126
>“multiple chronic diseases”
>was in an open relationship
ummm…
Anonymous No.150021483 >>150021555 >>150024034
>>150021126
Medical Debt is a trap for stupid people. Demand and itemized invoice and tell them you can't afford to pay shit and do not budge. They can't actually collect shit from you, so they'll sooner renegotiate a smaller amount, or just fucking give up and cancel the debt. The prices are all made up anyways.
Anonymous No.150021555 >>150023179
>>150021483
but if you dont pay the drs and nurses they cant buy things to save OTHER peoples lives :(
Anonymous No.150021586
>>150020982
i thought they were getting outed or something
Anonymous No.150021725 >>150021784 >>150030237
>>150020838 (OP)
>says she is in deep shit
>Is just her no being able to pay bills because voice acting doesnt pay well

Kill yourself OP
Anonymous No.150021743
Oh, I thought they were getting outed as a pedophile or something.
Anonymous No.150021784 >>150022181
>>150021725
N-N-N-NO
HEE totally just didnt make up a shit to of excuses
Anonymous No.150021822 >>150025970
>>150021368
Because when retards are told "think of all the leeches who'll make you pay high taxes if we help them!" They instantly think of screeching baboons in the ghetto instead of the literal equal number of white Americans dying under the same conditions. People from /pol/ would rather deny a nigger some Air Forces and Cheetos than let a single white mother have a stable home for her children, then turn around and cry about white birth rates and immigration.
Anonymous No.150022181 >>150022219
>>150021784
Kill yourself
Anonymous No.150022219
>>150022181
no
Anonymous No.150022242
>>150020982
>No visible check-marked username
>No Xitter format
I'm not associative to the likes of gender-fickle folk either. But don't bullshit with your prude fascism and your Word Document imagery.
Spreading slander only makes you the lowest of the low.
Anonymous No.150022277 >>150028090
>>150021383
Everyone would have healthcare if the rich losers of the world didn’t believe they were entitled to others’ labor
Anonymous No.150022334
>see someone going through tough times
>first instinct is to go be an anonymous gossip and laugh at their misfortune
>they're not even being a lolcow or doing anything to really deserve the ridicule, OP is just trying to invisibly kick someone while they're down

Man, you're a faggot. I don't even know who this is, but you're a fucking gay faggot OP.
Anonymous No.150022421
>>150020838 (OP)
>>150020982
Is that it? OP I was expecting drama that spoke to her poor character, not "Let's laugh at the poor".
Anonymous No.150022646 >>150041761
>>150020838 (OP)
Is it for touching kids....?

Please tell its not for touching kids.
Anonymous No.150022649 >>150032417
>>150020982
So she's just a financially retarded brokie and not even a troon?

The worse thing about this is the e-begging, I want real drama
Anonymous No.150022712 >>150022787 >>150022828 >>150027225
She already got the money she needed.

OP is a faggot
Anonymous No.150022787 >>150022878
>>150022712
Once in a while people are at their wit's end, even minor internet celebrities and just ask for help.

The trick is if she tries this again.
Anonymous No.150022828 >>150032069
>>150022712
Good for her but I still don’t really forgive her for how she humiliated Kovach after forcing him into a poly relationship and then getting mad when he didn’t do it right.
Anonymous No.150022840 >>150022862
>>150021035
>he's
Ashley was born female and, as far as I know, still identifies as female.
Anonymous No.150022855
>>150020838 (OP)
That's what happens when you decide to go "poly"

Every single poly/open relationship ends in disaster. No exceptions.
Anonymous No.150022862 >>150022997
>>150022840
Anonymous No.150022878 >>150022901
>>150022787
>tries this again.
What if she ends up in dire straits again?
Anonymous No.150022886 >>150028610
>>150021368
because rightoids are insanely easy to manipulate. They will vote against their own self interests every time because they buy into whatever propaganda is shoveled down their throats.

How many people were shocked to find out the affordable care act was the same thing as "Obamacare"? But it's easy to vote against Obamacare because black man = bad. Affordable Care Act sounds good, so it just took a rebranding of that to make people decide that was the work of the devil.
Anonymous No.150022901
>>150022878
>What if she ends up in dire straits again?
Nta but if she does not learn the lesson to prepare for emergencies then it is her fault.
Anonymous No.150022997 >>150023061
>>150022862
she's biologically female. Her pronouns on bsky say she/they so at most, she's leaning non-binary, but definitely not male. What am I missing?
Anonymous No.150023061 >>150027647 >>150030141 >>150030957
>>150022997
Why do you think her medical expenses are so signifcant? It's pain management.
Anonymous No.150023096
>>150020982
How is this drama
Its just some tard ebogging
Anonymous No.150023101 >>150023213 >>150024055 >>150027696 >>150028090
>>150020982
How the fuck do suburban American nobodies who have never done anything a day in their lives have "Severe PTSD?"
What the fuck is their never gone to war, never been in an accident, likely never even gone to a fucking theme park before, grew up in the safest most secure vanilla place in all of human history, doing to have PTSD?
Anonymous No.150023112 >>150023220 >>150027785 >>150031012 >>150031580
>>150020982
Why not just get a job.
All this shit can’t be more than 10k. That’s like 6 months working part time in retail, maybe 3 months if she works full time.
Anonymous No.150023145 >>150023220
>>150020982
>Please!!! I'm willing to do ANYTHING but actually get a job!!!!
Anonymous No.150023179 >>150023214
>>150021555
...how is that my problem?
Anonymous No.150023188 >>150023217
Without going too deep.
Groomer or pedophile or both, right?
Anonymous No.150023213
>>150023101
Some people think having any amount of trauma should excuse them from having to try to be functioning people and/or justifies treating others like shit.
Anonymous No.150023214
>>150023179
thats the entire point of my comment, its not your fucking problem.
Anonymous No.150023217
>>150023188
Basic bitch shit that can't even be called drama, come back 2 years when fatso (female) gets accused of hiding a pedo in her private discord
Anonymous No.150023220 >>150023277 >>150023289
>>150023112
>>150023145
Because people like theythem believe they're too big and "special" for a minimum wage job.
Anonymous No.150023277 >>150023311 >>150024031 >>150043894 >>150043903
>>150023220
If you get mad at others for not working for minimum wage you have the soul of a slave
Anonymous No.150023289 >>150043915
>>150023220
>get job in hotel cleaning
>"can you clean room 57 please"
>"UMMM WHY DO I NEED TO DO THAT ? "
Anonymous No.150023311
>>150023277
i too enjoy making stuff up i think sounds intelligent and then positing it on 4chan
Anonymous No.150023666
>>150020982
Damn, sucks. I can understand live catching up to you.
Anonymous No.150024031
>>150023277
single mothers are in a much more dire condition and yet still get whatever job they can until they can find something better. Beggers can't be choosers
Anonymous No.150024034 >>150026114
>>150021306
>>150021383
>>150021483
I live in Australia, life without crushing medical debt is possible
Anonymous No.150024055
>>150023101
>never been in an accident

you don't know that

>could have been raped or assaulted
Anonymous No.150024413
>>150020838 (OP)
Who?
Anonymous No.150024494
>>150021126
Actually there are lots of programs for straight up debt forgiveness and charities given straight to hospitals to be doled out. You just need to sit down with their finance people and see what they can do.

I mean, it's fine if you're some poor who get bent on a car wreck. May not work if you are say, some weirdo who has huge sums constantly in and out, come from an affluent family you still depend on, and the medical aid you are getting is some unnecessary bullshit like a sex change or boobjobs or namebrand xanax because that 's the kind that goes well with the triple shot mocha you have everyday.
Anonymous No.150024586
Starting a thread with the word "troon", and ESPECIALLY being a such a disrespectful piece of human garbage to such an incredibly talented creative visionary, animator and voice actress should be a bannable offense. Permanently.
Anonymous No.150024655 >>150027803
>>150020982
America is a fucking hellhole, Jesus fuck. All this tragedy happening to a single woman, my god.
Anonymous No.150024686
All I know from her social media is that she lives in a relatively nice home, has lots of pets and had lots of people living with her.

Plus she had enough money to fund her indie-pilot before the kickstarter too.
Feels like poor money-management skills for the most part, but she was definitely making quite a bit of bank from the Hunicast, freelancing, riding off of Michael Kovach for a bit and obviously some inheritance before that too. I mean, yeah shit happens.. I guess - but I think she may be exaggerating a bit about her financial situation.

If I had to guess, the IRS probably was the big fuckup and she was struggling to budget otherwise.
She got the money easily so w/e.
Anonymous No.150025181 >>150025232
>>150020838 (OP)
...how is this thread still up?
It's literally cheap slander to her for not being able to pay medical bills? This barely marginally relates to /co/ in any capacity but she works in cartoons, yet this thread has nothing to do with her job????
Anonymous No.150025232
>>150025181
anons are bitter and want to hate on anyone for any reason
Anonymous No.150025970 >>150028090
>>150021822
Never mind that we could easily pay that by closing tax loopholes abused by companies/rich people. Or even just actually making them pay taxes instead of giving them tax breaks all the time. Or even just adjusting minimum wage so people can get by.
Anonymous No.150026044 >>150026152 >>150027067 >>150040494
>>150020982
>voices a lead character in possibly THE biggest cartoon of the last 5 years
>is broke
The pieces aren't coming together...
Anonymous No.150026114
>>150024034
Trump Derangement Syndrome detected
Anonymous No.150026152
>>150026044
Anon do you really think 1/100th of the money is even going into the VA's pockets
Anonymous No.150026175 >>150026183
>>150020982
Yeah I worked in life insurance you just weren’t the beneficiary. Ether A they deceased never made a will so they weren’t the closet living relative or B they were never listed as the beneficiary at all. Nothing was stolen you just thought you were entitled.
Anonymous No.150026183
>>150026175
Wait it could also be C were they had power of attorney, but that only works with the living when they die you need the power of the estate to have any access to those funds.
Anonymous No.150026505
>>150020982
She's super morbidly obese irl. How much better would her medical situation be if she lost the weight?
Anonymous No.150026926
>>150020982
>>150021005
Thanks for sharing! :D
Anonymous No.150027067
>>150026044
"Thing is popular" doesn't instantly raise the value of the work the voice actors put on it. That's for when they're on new projects. Maybe if royalties were in the contract, but since this is a YouTube show and YouTube's ad-payment rates can be inconsistent (at least according to every YouTuber I've seen talk about it), they're probably not.
Anonymous No.150027225
>>150022712
OP has always been a tard
Anonymous No.150027647
>>150023061
I don't know why people butcher themselves in the first place.
Anonymous No.150027696
>>150023101
Because Trump just existing gives them trauma, somehow.
Anonymous No.150027730 >>150027767 >>150027823
>>150021368
Because, in the 20th Century, Communist governments killed more people than all other homicides, wars, etc. in the world combined. Centralization of economic power in the government is so dangerous that a kneejerk backlash against pleasant-sounding pushes in that direction is actually pretty reasonable. You know that Canadian government health care is currently pushing costly patients to kill themselves, no?
Anonymous No.150027767
>>150027730
>You know that Canadian government health care is currently pushing costly patients to kill themselves, no?

Oh yeaaaah.
I remember that now.
Anonymous No.150027785
>>150023112
She is working on an animated pilot as well as voicing in TADC and Lackadaisy. If she picked up a job she would not have time to work on Far Fetched which will delay its release even further. She can't dip onto the kickstarter money because that would be fraud.
The medical issues I do think come from weight though. If she lost a little bit then for sure her constitution would come back stronger
Anonymous No.150027803
>>150024655
These are all things that could happen in any country ever. Okay you have free medical care. Now that charge goes into everything you buy & your taxes. And now you're on a waiting list to get a serious medical issue checked out.
Anonymous No.150027823 >>150028266 >>150029763 >>150030254
>>150027730
>I don't want to go into debt because I broke a bone
>the government now controls the economy and says "KYS" when you ask for a mobility lift
It's entirely possible to solve the former without doing the latter.
Anonymous No.150028090 >>150028318
>>150022277
>if the rich losers of the world didn’t believe they were entitled to others’ labor
Don't rich people typically pay people to do things for them? That's not entitlement, that's employment.

>>150023101
It's become fashionable in certain subcultures to glorify personal frailty as marker of social status. Therefore, people habitually form their thoughts and emotional reactions into magnifying mundane nuisances of life into debilitating "trauma" and receive social support for doing so. This mechanism is basically what cognitive-behavioral therapy uses to deal with debilitating trauma (it actually works), and using the same process to program trauma IN can actually work too. So, when you see someone claiming to be traumatized or debilitated at some minor issue no reasonable person would be emotionally invested in, you're probably either seeing someone putting on an act for social points, or someone who has drunk enough kool-aid that they have legitimately traumatized themself.

>>150025970
Those things sound nice, don't they? But policy is more complex than campaign slogans. What "loopholes" would you close? Those tax deductions are typically there to incentivize behavior. And companies / rich people are relatively mobile. Taxes are a factor in where they reside. Raise taxes without other sufficient incentives to keep them around, and they'll simply pack up and move somewhere else, leaving the original area financially worse off than keeping the original tax rate and having people around to pay it. And econ 101, a binding minimum wage leads to higher unemployment, as jobs that produce insufficient income for the employer to justify that wage are eliminated rather than filled. The people employed at minimum wage would be better off with a higher minimum wage, but fewer would be employed, with more people depending on social safety nets. If the social safety nets are good enough to live on, it would be better to eliminate the minimum wage.
Anonymous No.150028266 >>150028401
>>150027823
You find a way to do that reliably, you let the world know (and plausibly get a Nobel Prize out of it). Human nature makes a lot of nice-sounding things non-viable in practice.

I mean, I'm assuming you aren't suggesting that all poor people be killed. That's the simple solution to the conundrum. But one of the unspoken ground rules is that societies are supposed to be structured so that the less capable can get by somehow. The main difference of opinion here is whether people should be allowed to fail if they make poor decisions despite those options for getting by being available.
Anonymous No.150028318 >>150028544
>>150028090
>What "loopholes" would you close?
Shit like buying art cheap, pumping the price, then dumping it on institutions as a "donation" to dodge taxes.
>And companies / rich people are relatively mobile.
>we shouldn't tax the rich because they'll just leave!
Genuine retard take. I'm talking about federal income tax(although local tax should be higher for them as well), and few will leave when the benefits of living in the US far outweigh the deficit of number being smaller.
>a binding minimum wage leads to higher unemployment, as jobs that produce insufficient income for the employer to justify that wage are eliminated rather than filled.
The CEO of the company I work at gave themself a bonus which could pay for 560 people's yearly wage. It's not that companies CAN'T support higher wages, it's that they won't and make bullshit excuses about it because then the suits would have smaller number in their bank account, despite already making more money than they will ever need.
Anonymous No.150028401 >>150028559
>>150028266
>this is a problem that tons of people, in this country in particular for some reason, have a decent chance of facing
>well what's YOUR solution, then??
>I... don't really have---
>GENOCIDE?!??!
Anonymous No.150028544
>>150028318
>Shit like buying art cheap, pumping the price, then dumping it on institutions as a "donation" to dodge taxes.
That's a good one. Do you want to remove deductions for charity in general, or just for art?

>I'm talking about federal income tax
The same thing applies to countries. Why do you think a lot of companies are registered in the Cayman Islands?

>few will leave when the benefits of living in the US far outweigh the deficit of number being smaller.
That's for the board members to decide. There are actual reasons why they're currently in the US, and policy changes should be made with the understanding that those reasons can go away.

>The CEO of the company I work at gave themself a bonus which could pay for 560 people's yearly wage.
This has to do with the relative bargaining power of the CEO vs. other people. Nothing to do with the minimum wage.

>It's not that companies CAN'T support higher wages,
In the case of a minimum wage shutting down jobs with insufficient productivity to justify that wage, it literally is. Companies are not charities, and are legally prohibited from operating as charities. And that's what it would be if a company pays someone more than that person brings in.
Anonymous No.150028559 >>150028598
>>150028401
That's how attempts often work out, yes. I was trying to give anon the benefit of the doubt.
Anonymous No.150028598 >>150028751
>>150028559
>That's how attempts often work out, yes
Attempts at what? I never never even proposed anything.
Anonymous No.150028610 >>150028806 >>150029455
>>150022886
If we all suffer, it will keep the weak down and breed a stronger county. Hard times make hard people
Anonymous No.150028751 >>150029294 >>150029760 >>150029880
>>150028598
Attempts at fixing economic issues through government control. The US currently has a very expensive health care system, and the suppliers use their resources to find new ways to treat things, in order to make more money by treating things. It can obviously be better, but the improvements to be made are more along the lines of increased transparency so that people can make decisions based on what things cost, and how they actually work out. Saying that health care costs money, and that's a bad thing, doesn't help. What do you think happens when health care providers are prohibited from making money?
Anonymous No.150028806
>>150028610
Senator Armstrong....
>>150021126
FUCK YEAH
Anonymous No.150029294 >>150029763
>>150028751
>What do you think happens when health care providers are prohibited from making money?
When did I say they should be prohibited from making money?
>well the Logical Consequence™ of---
Yeah, I guess absent a proposed "hard" solution, you can just say whatever you want. Cool...
Anonymous No.150029455
>>150028610
Then why haven't you risen up and killed the idiots enriching themselves to be fatter and lazier every day?
Anonymous No.150029651
>>150020982
>family member stole my inheritance
>by presenting the most recent, valid will
that's not what stealing means
Anonymous No.150029760 >>150029880
>>150028751
Bush Jr's Medicare plan is what caused the spike in medical 'costs' because it allowed drug and device manufacturers to demand any price with a legal restriction on seeking out less expensive alternatives. Drug makers use government-funded research to make their medications; people like Bayer and Pfizer don't make anything except garbage like time-delay features to keep the patent forever so generics can't be produced. The current dogshit system is dogshit because the private sector was allowed to fuck with it. Remember, healtchare lobbyists spend at a rate of something like 5x to 10x more than defense contractors. Ruminate on that for a minute.
Anonymous No.150029763
>>150029294
>When did I say they should be prohibited from making money?
If you follow the replies back, we see>>150021126
>>endless medical expenses
and >>150027823
>>I don't want to go into debt because I broke a bone
The gist of these is that payment per se for medical expenses is a bad thing. Stated explicitly, the obvious solution is to prohibit making money from medical care. This has in fact been implemented in the real world. But there are, of course, logical consequences which follow from this.

If you really don't have a proposed solution that's better than the status quo, that really does leave the status quo as a better state of affairs than anything you might suggest, whatever problems the status quo involves. So, health care in the US is expensive? Sure, but the health care is available when people need it. That's the arrangement our society has made.
Anonymous No.150029880
>>150029760
>it allowed drug and device manufacturers to demand any price with a legal restriction on seeking out less expensive alternatives.
>>150028751
>the improvements to be made are more along the lines of increased transparency so that people can make decisions based on what things cost, and how they actually work out.
Well, look at that.

>Ruminate on that for a minute.
>health care is a much larger part of the economy than military programs
>hmmm
But yes, obviously things can be better. Determining what would actually be better takes analysis of details, though.
Anonymous No.150030109
>>150021005
It get worse!

I was actually going to give them a little something, but Paypal is all I got.

One thing of note, though, is that the reason Paypal did that is likely because they were receiving an unusually high amount of donation, which is automatically flagged as suspicious, so that might actually means that a significant amount of people have already send them support.

Which they can't get right now. Hope they can unlock that aspect of her situation soon.
Anonymous No.150030138 >>150030231 >>150030269 >>150031062
>>150020982
...the answer is get a fucking job
Anonymous No.150030141
>>150023061
And?
Anonymous No.150030193 >>150030328 >>150030607
>>150021383
I am entitled to being provided an health service of quality, actually.

Also, the richest people in the world objectively do'nt work hard enough to consider the insane amount of money that they have as being deserved. I have no moral issue taking that from them.
Anonymous No.150030231
>>150030138
>is a VA
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
Anonymous No.150030237
>>150021725
>>Is just her no being able to pay bills because voice acting doesnt pay well
I think having your home flooded and your contractor conning you IS being in deep shit.
Anonymous No.150030254
>>150027823
Thing is, citizens need to be eternally vigilant to make goddamn sure that the latter cannot ever come to be. They can never let communism get a foothold in any corner of society or else the latter is 100% inevitable.
Anonymous No.150030269 >>150030331 >>150030442 >>150030506
>>150030138
She has a job and she is working. It just pays shit.
Anonymous No.150030328 >>150030452 >>150030607
>>150030193
>subscribes to the labor theory of value
>thinks he's entitled to the labor and time of others
>condones theft
Greetings, tovarisch anon.
Anonymous No.150030331 >>150030389 >>150030552
>>150030269
So get a different job. Clearly this one is not viable and cannot be relied on to pay bills.

Boring office jobs suck but people get them any damn way because they have to afford a lifestyle.
Anonymous No.150030389 >>150030552
>>150030331
>Clearly this one is not viable and cannot be relied on to pay bills.
This is a recurring issue for creative types. I'm willing to let people suffer for their art if they want to. It sometimes leads to some nifty stuff being made.
Anonymous No.150030442 >>150030552
>>150030269
Seems like it's more of a fun hobby and at best a side gig than a career path if they cannot pay any bills with it.
Anonymous No.150030452 >>150030539 >>150030607 >>150030929
>>150030328
>>thinks he's entitled to the labor and time of others
No, I am entitled to a minimal of decent living condition.

And taxation is not theft, it 's the condition to profit from the system that sustain the currency you are using.

The moment you agree to use that currency, you agree to be taxed for it.
Anonymous No.150030506 >>150030603
>>150030269
She might be able to afford things if she quits pretending to have PTSD. I'm real sure her two tours in Afghanistan were real rough and she is still having trouble getting over it or still thinks any box on the ground might be an ied of some type....wait. this fat bitch never did that huh? Never had lost any friends to a roadside shootout? Hmm....maybe she is just full of shit and begging for gibs for shit she is lying about then...
Anonymous No.150030539 >>150030575 >>150030587 >>150030607
>>150030452
Anonymous No.150030552 >>150030763 >>150031176
>>150030331
>>150030389
>>150030442
She is also producing her own show.

If you are wondering why we do'nt get good things more often, it's because all the talented people who could do great thing are stopped by financial struggle, so only people who were born with money, not talented one, get to do their stuff.

To ensure that everyone are guaranteed a minimal level of subsistence actually increase the amount of people launching their aunt ventures, which tend to result in an overall better economy.

"Give up if you are in a mess" is just Bucket Crab mentality.
Anonymous No.150030575 >>150030607
>>150030539
That's not even communism, anon.
Anonymous No.150030587 >>150030607 >>150030965 >>150031322
>>150030539
>anon doesn't know a lot of non commie countries around the world use taxes to pay for healthcare
Anonymous No.150030603
>>150030506
>Hmm....maybe she is just full of shit and begging for gibs for shit she is lying about then...
Source?
Anonymous No.150030607
>>150030575
>>150030587

>>150030193
>>150030328
>>150030452
>>150030539
Anonymous No.150030763
>>150030552
>launching their aunt venture
Anonymous No.150030929 >>150031084 >>150033495
>>150030452
you are going to have a really bad time with this demanding that all of society be your parent and give you things because you are alive...
Anonymous No.150030957
>>150023061
You’re not saying anything other than “he doesn’t know” and letting anons fill in the blanks which they’re probably doing incorrectly. She’s morbidly obese. The pain management could be for a lot of things. She’s not in general good health.
Anonymous No.150030965
>>150030587
In what way are they not commies?
Anonymous No.150031012 >>150031469
>>150023112
>save $10k working full time in retail for 3 months
You must live in your mom’s basement if you think this is realistic.
Anonymous No.150031062
>>150030138
It's funny the bootstraps argument has an avatar of criminals that undercut the system with violence nepotism and intimidation.
Anonymous No.150031084 >>150031225 >>150031554 >>150033078 >>150033495
>>150030929
>you are going to have a really bad time with this demanding that all of society be your parent
Joke on you. I am a public functionary worker (Technical Train Driver, I am part of a maintenance team) in a country with strong union culture. I am well paid with one of the strongest social security covering me and I am not even counting the benefit I get working by night and the weekend.

(also, I don't have to pay to take the train)
Anonymous No.150031176
>>150030552
> Bucket Crab mentality
Where do you think you are?
Anonymous No.150031225 >>150031294
>>150031084
Also, you’re massively autistic
Anonymous No.150031294
>>150031225
Well, I like trains, that's pretty much a given.
Anonymous No.150031322 >>150031839
>>150030587
Meanwhile the US maintains the strongest economy and highest quality of life that everyone from all of those socialist shitholes desperately want to come over here and get in on themselves.
Anonymous No.150031469 >>150031542 >>150031576
>>150031012
Let's do some math.
>median retail income in US ~$17/hour
>40 work hours per week for full time employment
>4.35 weeks in average month
>$2950 gross income per month
>$8874 gross income in three months
Not quiiiite viable to save $10k in three months off of that.
Anonymous No.150031542 >>150031580
>>150031469
Who the hell gets 40 hours ever outside of December in a retail job?
Most are lucky to get at least 20, but nearly everyone hard caps the hours at 35 at the most. while hours are totally erratic almost everywhere. Sometimes getting a 10 hour week, then a 22 hour one, then a 18 hour one....
Anonymous No.150031554 >>150031731 >>150031769 >>150033495
>>150031084
>I am well paid with one of the strongest social security covering me
Post after-tax income.
Anonymous No.150031576
>>150031469
now take out taxes
now pay rent
now buy food
now pay utility bills
now pay for gas/insurance for your car
how much is left?
If you didn't even consider these real life expenses that all people who actually have a job and live in real life think about, you live in your mom's basement
Anonymous No.150031580
>>150031542
>Who the hell gets 40 hours ever outside of December in a retail job?
Someone working full-time, as stipulated by the anon here >>150023112.
Anonymous No.150031731 >>150031762
>>150031554
It's been proven time and time again that socialized healthcare costs you less in increased tax than it costs to pay for insurance. The added bonus is that you actually get the healthcare you pay taxes for instead of having a pencil sharpening dickhead trying to screw you out of coverage so the company can post a higher quarterly profit margin.
Anonymous No.150031762 >>150031776
>>150031731
So post after-tax income.
Anonymous No.150031769 >>150031909
>>150031554
Anonymous No.150031776
>>150031762
NTA
Anonymous No.150031798 >>150031985
>>150020982
reading the thing about therapy actually sucks because I know for years I've wanted therapy too but I've never been able to actually go into it because of the cost. Some people I know have the same issue and because of that they've literally looked for alternative means of therapy, one of my friends has another friend that he considers his "therapist", even thouigh he's not licensed or anything, but honestly, if it works I don't see the problem
Anonymous No.150031839
>>150031322
It's mostly third-world countries who want to move to the USA. Most people living in Europe don't feel the need to move out.
Also
> the strongest economy
That was actually true... Under Biden, and then Trump decided the USA had too much money.

>and highest quality
LoL. Just make a quick internet search.
Anonymous No.150031909 >>150031961 >>150032074
>>150031769
>2565 Euros/month
>$3007/month
>$36,084/year
>$68,531 average personal income in US in 2023
Anonymous No.150031961 >>150032074 >>150032147
>>150031909
>>$68,531 average personal income in US in 2023
How about you look for the median income, anon.
Anonymous No.150031985
>>150031798
>one of my friends has another friend that he considers his "therapist", even thouigh he's not licensed or anything, but honestly, if it works I don't see the problem
Friends can offer a sympathetic ear and chime in with their perspective, but they can also have terrible and unhealthy advice. A licensed professional is helpful because they can view things through a clinical lens. They know signs to look for when it comes to unhealthy mindsets and perspectives. They also aren't your friend, so they will be less biased than someone close you.

I hear you. I also can't afford therapy and wish I could, but talking to a friend is not the same thing nor should it be viewed as such.
Anonymous No.150031992 >>150032080
>>150020982
Water heaters are seriously ticking timebombs.
They're never in fail-safe locations, and require constant monitoring to identify potential failures before they blow. My shitty apartment has the water heater tucked in the corner of the only closet with any usable space, so a LOT of my valuables are nearby to it. I inspect it pretty much daily. Never ignore the warning signs of imminent failure. If you suspect a water heater is going to fail, have it looked at by a professional to be repaired or replaced IMMEDIATELY
Anonymous No.150032069 >>150032195
>>150022828
Yeah, if there’s one thing you can critique Ashley for, it’s that. Polyamorous relationships can spell the end for many couples that can’t handle it. At the very least, she and Micheal ended amicably.
Anonymous No.150032074 >>150032147
>>150031909
>>150031961
>US median income:
>39982 USD
>=
>34107 Euro
lololololol
Anonymous No.150032080
>>150031992
how much does that inspection cost? It's really easy to tell someone to not play chicken with this kind of stuff, but if the inspection is going to be like $100 every time just for the guy to tell you that everything is fine, you're probably going to be a little more risky.
Anonymous No.150032147 >>150032424 >>150033246
>>150031961
Let's compare apples to apples, then.
>full-time wage and salary workers in the US, 2025
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf
>$1,196/week median income
>$62,400/year

>>150032074
Still more than the anon makes as a full-time worker.
Anonymous No.150032185
>>150020982
>>150021005
That's what she gets for not being born rich.
Anonymous No.150032195 >>150032322 >>150034625
>>150032069
>At the very least, she and Micheal ended amicably
kind of? They both overshared quite a bit on social media.
Anonymous No.150032322 >>150034625
>>150032195
Fair point, the details were something that definitely should’ve stayed private.
Anonymous No.150032417
>>150022649
She's the voice actor for the triangle headed toybox person from that circus show you sometimes see on /co/.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H3KXXqXrsAE
Anonymous No.150032424 >>150033078
>>150032147
>Still more than the anon makes as a full-time worker.
Except there is no crippling medical debt. and this is actually a bellow-median pay, there.
Anonymous No.150033078 >>150033246
>>150032424
>and this is actually a bellow-median pay, there.
The request for income info was after an anon claimed to be well-paid >>150031084 in support of socialism as an economic system. The overall productivity of that economic system is important to consider here. The median full-time income in France looks to be about 43k Euros per year, which is subject to an average of 28% taxes, for 31k net pay (~$36,300). The numbers for anon in the chart above, supposing medium experience and no dependents, is higher than this, and so is indeed "well-paid" by local standards. In the US, a median full-time worker makes ~$62,400/year, subject to a little under 10% tax (total, state and federal), giving about $56,500 net.
Anonymous No.150033246 >>150033449
>>150032147
>>150033078
If you are going to actually compare apple to apple, you'd do better to take the the US salary for a technical train driver.

>The median full-time income in France
This chart is from Belgium.
Anonymous No.150033449 >>150033474 >>150033495
>>150033246
>If you are going to actually compare apple to apple, you'd do better to take the the US salary for a technical train driver.
Why? Anon's point was not about how well train drivers specifically are paid around the world, it was about how his economy's way of doing things is superior to how the US does things. Comparing what full-time workers make and keep is directly on point.

>This chart is from Belgium.
The medium full-time income in Belgium is 48k Euros per year, which is subject to about 38% taxes, for about 30k net pay (~$35,200). Again, anon is well-paid by local standards.
Anonymous No.150033474
>>150033449
>The medium full-time income
*median
Anonymous No.150033495 >>150033631
>>150033449
>Anon's point was not about how well train drivers
No, my point was this >>150031084
in reply to this >>150030929
And you replied with this
>>150031554

If your point is that I could be earning more under a different system, then you have to compare it to an equivalent job.
Anonymous No.150033631 >>150033782 >>150043812
>>150033495
>No, my point was this
Right. In response to an anon (not me) saying that you'll have a hard time demanding public services, you said that you make a good income in a place with generous public services. That you work as a train driver is unrelated to the underlying economic issues of different economic systems having different productivity.

>And you replied with this
Because this points out how the US had higher economic productivity. So you can have a high-tax system with generous government services, but it generally comes at the cost of lower economic productivity. Is that worth it? Some people think so. But that doesn't negate the costs.

>then you have to compare it to an equivalent job.
The US doesn't have an equivalent train system, and moving to European-style health care wouldn't change that. But it looks like (https://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes534011.htm) a similar job in the US makes about $75k/year.
Anonymous No.150033782 >>150033931
>>150033631
>That you work as a train driver is unrelated to the underlying economic issues of different economic systems having different productivity.
We weren't talking about that. We were talking about if, in such system, I was actually doing good or if I was missing out.

If we are going to tlak about the broader issue, I'd say that ensuring that everyone has access to healthcare is more important than scoring high on a chart.

>The US doesn't have an equivalent train system
The US has technical train drivers. And if you are going to use the net salary of a technical train driver, the only valid comparison is one of a technical train driver in the US. Otherwise, you are comparing apple to oranges and failing to make a point.
Anonymous No.150033889
kiwicunt retardation threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/4 >>>/global/rules/6 and >>>/co/rules/1
OP is a faggot who's also spamming and ban evading, here's proof.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150014144/#150014144
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=150020838
Anonymous No.150033931 >>150043590
>>150033782
>I'd say that ensuring that everyone has access to healthcare is more important than scoring high on a chart.
Everyone does have access to health care in the US. Most people get health insurance through work. Most others get health insurance on private markets or through qualification for government options. But even without insurance, you can show up in an emergency room if you have an emergency, and you'll be treated regardless of your ability to pay. You'll be billed, but you'll be treated.

>And if you are going to use the net salary of a technical train driver, the only valid comparison is one of a technical train driver in the US.
We call these people "engineers" as described in the URL there.
Anonymous No.150034091 >>150034780
>>150020982
Nobody deserves to get fucked over by healthcare jews, I'd hope she makes it out
Anonymous No.150034625 >>150043212
>>150032195
>>150032322
what details? I assume from what this thread says they were dating, she wanted to open it up and then didnt like how things went for him when she did? Sounds like a monkeyspaw curled for her.
Anonymous No.150034780
>>150034091
>Nobody deserves to get fucked over by healthcare jews

Wrong. They deserve it for not being born rich.
Anonymous No.150034856
>>150020982
>>150021005
>>150021126
You literally can tell them you can't afford the payments and they'll put you on a no interest payment plan if you call the hospital's billing dept and explain.
>Have $2,000 out of pocket medical expense
>Ask to have a low monthly payment
>Pay $20 dollars a month back for it
I also don't believe all these creators when all the big prominent creators have CONSTANT medical issues and keep crying for money. Reminds me of the "my PC broke and I need a new one" scam. I don't buy it.
Anonymous No.150035183 >>150035421 >>150039445 >>150043223
>>150020928
Is she actually trans?
Anonymous No.150035421
>>150035183
Indications are no.
Anonymous No.150035556 >>150037058
>>150020982
A lot of this sounds self-inflicted, why should I help her???
>writing off donations in taxes
>oops you can't write off more than you've earned!
>scammed by a contractor
>didn't do proper research/cheaped out on some skeevy gringo for his fat meds and "therapy" sessions because fatphobia or whatever
>leaving your valuables in a lockbox out in the open for people to steal
>being such a piece of shit your family writes you out of their own will (KWAB)
>taking on an expensive pilot project and not saving money at all when you weren't making any to begin with and expecting a safety net from your dead parent and tax writeoffs
Consequences of your actions
Anonymous No.150036241
all i learned from this thread is America sucks and they should be nuked already.
Anonymous No.150036399 >>150037451 >>150040095
Do you feel empowered for shitting on people with some margin of success especially if they're a woman because of bad experiences you've had?

Because that was why I hated feminism for a while. But there are better ways to live a happier laugh than to criticize women
Anonymous No.150037058
>>150035556
I think Kovach was pulling in lots of money or weight in the relationship and when they broke up it ended up hurting her more in the long run.

That being said, yeah I agree. I definitely think someone like her actually has been super lucky and had quite a large amounts of money handed to her. As she said, she already was living off inherietence from her adoptive family - then her bio-family inherientence she wasn't able to grab too.

It's probably mostly poor financial budgeting plus taking on more then she can handle.

The weird thing about the Kovach thing and when they first got together it was announced like they were exclusive. Only until the breakup somehow it's a poly thing. Though Kovach indicates it was her idea and he never was in a situation like that before.

Funny how once TADC blew up big, so did their relationship. I hope she wasnt piggy-back riding off of him until she got a foothold. But i wouldn't be surprised either.
Anonymous No.150037451 >>150043730
>>150036399
>person who happens to be a woman publicly asks for financial help
>gets criticized for being overweight and making poor decisions with financial consequences
>"how dare you criticize women"
If you think that someone should not be criticized because of their sex... you're a sexist.
Anonymous No.150039445
>>150035183
No, just a woman with a contralto voice.
Anonymous No.150040095 >>150043730
>>150036399
STFU simpcuck. I hate women who cuck their boyfriends with "open relationships", then dump them because they spoke romantically with another women.

Ashley is an objectively terrible person and an ugly fat cow to boot.
Anonymous No.150040494 >>150041733
>>150026044
She’s obese
Anonymous No.150041733 >>150042548 >>150043931 >>150043974
>>150040494
>
Like how obese?
Anonymous No.150041761
>>150022646
Don't lie to yourself, you wanted that to be the case
Anonymous No.150042548 >>150043974
>>150041733
Obese
Anonymous No.150043212
>>150034625
That's not at all what happened, but nice attempt to stir up some shit, faggot.
Anonymous No.150043223
>>150035183
no. /co/tards just can't stop thinking about trans people for 5 seconds
Anonymous No.150043590 >>150043812 >>150043812
>>150033931
>Everyone does have access to health care in the US.
But it can ruin people. Don't pretend it was not the problem.

>We call these people "engineers" as described in the URL there.
I am still waiting for that comparison.
Anonymous No.150043730 >>150043886
>>150037451
I've followed Ashley for a while and I can tell this experience will help her get her act together.

The reason why I brought up the woman thing is that I feel no matter what I say you're going to brush her off as being a stupid woman because women are stupid because they chose the Chad over you.

>>150040095
Is THAT what happened with her and Michael?
How does Michael feel about all this? Are you going to project onto him?
Anonymous No.150043812
>>150043590
>Don't pretend it was not the problem.
I didn't say it wasn't a problem. But you didn't say that it was. I was replying there to your statement that "ensuring that everyone has access to health care is more important than scoring high on a chart", as if the US has to sacrifice access to medical care in order to achieve more economic productivity.

>>150043590
>I am still waiting for that comparison.
It's up here: >>150033631
>But it looks like (https://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes534011.htm) a similar job in the US makes about $75k/year.
That's into the 22% tax bracket, so the effective rate is higher than the previous example (about 11.5%), giving about $66,300 net income per year. This is about 56,600 Euros. As in Belgium, people who drive trains make somewhat more than average.
Anonymous No.150043886
>>150043730
>I feel
Anonymous No.150043894
>>150023277
Not him, but I work a tough shift job. I also have issues, I rent. I am a fucking retard. So if I manage to earn a living, why not others? I think that is the core of this. To few people seem to have an idea how many „regular“ people they meet every day that are barely holding on. The soul of a slave bit seems interesting, I had a friend who argued it is ok for her to cheat on her taxes, do undeclared work and squat because she is a woman and woman have been opressed. Does it go along these lines?
Anonymous No.150043903
>>150023277
>the soul of a slave

That contradicts itself, slaves don't have souls.
Anonymous No.150043915 >>150043929
>>150023289
It's funny, the jobs like this that aren't just 'fast food' would be perfect and easy to do for shit heels.
Just do laundry and clean a room.
Literally make coffee for commuters and sell them cigarettes in the early morning to late morning shifts at a gas station.
Literally wash dishes in an actual kitchen as well as ensure whats on a plate matches a ticket for medical place.
Get everything you want.
Yet these they thems are the kind of people who stick to tip jobs or fast food because this shit for some reason scares them.
Anonymous No.150043929
>>150043915
I mean, it depends where you live. Might have to sell the house. Which does suck.
Anonymous No.150043931
>>150041733
There was a full body photo of her posted online a while back and I was actually shocked
Anonymous No.150043974 >>150044903
>>150041733
>>150042548
Pretty fucking obese
Anonymous No.150044903
>>150043974
She's a straight CHUNGUS. Old as fuck, too.