Thread 150036931

Did they add a bunch of female writers to the reboot? So much long-winded dialogue. Feels like I'm watching an episode of Daria.

>>150036931 (OP)
I didn't bother with this.

>>150036931 (OP)
>”masculine” guy cries over a cartoon
Go play football or mow the lawn or join the military if you’re such a man, you big baby.

>>150037002
Who said I was crying? I was just curious how many women writers they added to the show.

>>150037002
You sound upset

>>150037092
I know that one of the new writers wrote for Velma. It's the episode most people say it's the weakest.

The reboot was good

>>150036931 (OP)
>long-winded dialogue
Get your attention span checked

>Episode 1
>Mike Judge & Greg Daniels & Saladin K. Patterson
>all male

>Episode 2
>Norm Hiscock
>male

>Episode 3
>Norm Hiscock & Anthony Del Broccolo
>all male

>Episode 4
>Sam Fishell
>male

>Episode 5
>Anthony Del Broccolo
>male

>Episode 6
>Jeremy Hsu
>male

>Episode 7
>Erica Rosbe
>female

>Episode 8
>Jeremy Hsu
>male

>Episode 9
>Stephanie M. Johnson
>female

>Episode 10
>Marcelina Chavira
>female

3 out of the 10 writers are female and 3 out of the 10 episodes were written by only females.

>>150036931 (OP)
the rick & morty syndrome

>>150037892
Female writers ruined Rick and Morty and the Clone High Reboot. They did not ruin the new KOTH.

>>150037972
No one on this board argues in good faith and a lot of them have double digit IQs.

>>150038017
I do agree this website and this board are teaming with idiots who don't know how to argue. But you can have a double-digit IQ and not be retarded. The average range is from 90 to 110. I know you probably just wanted to have a clever way of calling someone an idiot and you already knew this, but I felt the need to correct, even though it kind of ruins the flow.

>>150037892
this, rick and morty's dialogue has gotten so fucking bad
>oh geez im doing a sci fi trope but its okay that i do said trope if i explain that i know what this trope is referencing!
it gets tiring when they do this every time they use a sci fi gadget

>>150037816
I stand corrected. Perhaps the writers are just old and out of touch.

>>150036931 (OP)
It’s very typical of streaming shows. On network, they had to cut every scene to the bone so they would come in at 22 minutes.

They no longer have the time limit or the pressure that comes with the more competitive world of broadcast TV, so they let scenes run longer instead of fanatically cutting whatever they can do without.

>>150038017
Is it that they don’t argue in good faith or that you just say they don’t because you have no counter so as hominem and logical fallacies is the most you can muster?

>>150037816
It’s a new writer problem in general.

>Andrew Tate episode
>"If women are treating you like shit it's because you deserve it, chud"
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear

>>150036950
Same.
>>150038777
>old
>>150040678
>new
Which is it?

>>150036931 (OP)
is op a female? so much bitching

>>150037816
>Hiscock

>>150037816
Which one wrote the anti-male episode with Andrew Tate stand-in?

The already mid tier season 14 gets lowered into trash tier because the modern writers couldn't keep themselves from adding unnecessary woke crap and worsening it. It should have stayed dead after 2010.

>>150036950
It's not worth bothering with. There's like one scenario that feels like it's in the spirit of the original show.

>>150037215
It was dreadfully dull. It simply wasn't very funny and King of the Hill is ultimately a comedy.

>>150044631
KoTH was always subdued, it was a slice of life with some minimal bits of comedy in it.

>>150043837
Stephanie M. Johnson, former Velma writer.

>>150037002
Why are KOTH fans always so concerned with masculinity? It's really strange considering it's the wimpiest and most touchy feely of all the major adult cartoons. I would expect KOTH fans to be on the sensitive side.

>>150045078
to be fair it still panders to conservatives, king of the hill was always anti-toxic masculinity. Pre-reboot Hank sided with his wife over Cotton and other shitty men, but you dont see those types scrambling to the imdb page to send rape threats to them. Nothing the female writers did would be out of character for Hank
https://youtu.be/bJdECn1l7NM
https://youtu.be/5_zRg-77rQs

>bobby got KEKED
Oh no no no

>>150044595
What was woke about it?

Time for this weeks episode of "OP didnt realise how radicalise and groomed he was by right wing grifters and screams things that are the same are now woke bigly".

You just got recruited to the bad guys bro.

>>150045471
It's incurable, unless the grifter attacks the sacred cow too dear to the person.

>>150045471
>if you dont like the wokeslop, you're literally brainwashed by boogiemen
Okay sweetie

>>150036931 (OP)
Same show where they had Hank encouraging guys to accept being in the friend zone and to unironically respect the woman's decision with 0 hard feelings at all. Might as well wear the chastity cage at that point.
>well what do you do if you are friendzoned
Move onto greener pastures and find somewhere to graze.

>>150037816
>>150040702
>>150045060
Oof. I figured. It's looking grim. No wonder that one episode was all "friendzoning men is okay and don't you dare be upset about it boys".

>>150045611
Based.
I was at least able to find it agreeable and humorous, however, that in any episode where Peggy/someone else was on about some feminist bullshit where the MCs eventually gave in: Peggy still had to temper her feminism by getting BTFO and needing Hank to save her. That is to say, the messaging was at least a little better than most shows because Peggy did have to eventually knock the shit off. She never BAWSBABED hank.

>>150045646
Forgot to mention: this is original series only. Haven't watched new stuff

>>150045646
>>150045655
See >>150045643

>>150045662
Gross. Confirms for me I made the right choice in not watching kek
It's wild how many people defend it with "KOTH always had liberal values", though. I mean, yeah, it's TV and therefore going to slant left like that
But what if liberal values during the original run weren't particularly bothersome or entirely disagreeable, but that woke-fascism is gross and far too much? Why do they need to act like the shit hasn't advanced 100 paces and that its business as usual, despite not at all being business as usual?

>>150045717
Feminism has taken over society and only just VERY recently have men started to wake up and push back. A lot of men are still rooting for team women. There is much to be done.

>>150045928
Thats a pretty good point. I have been with my wife for more than 10 years now, so I was never really paying attention to any of that until the instagram-feminism started feeding a bunch of bullshit directly into my relationship. At that point I had a big WTF moment and looked around and yeah. The cantankerous feminism we have going on right now is wildly pervasive for how silly and unproductive it is. It fucking sucks.
At least in my case, though, my mother in law is an unfathomably based lady for whom I have a lot of respect. I can pretty much end any social media feminist idea of how she should act/treat me with simply
>call your mom and ask her if this is a good idea
100% success rate so far with that one

>>150036950
Here’s an honest opinion of it, it’s on the same quality as the last 3 seasons of the original run of king of the hill. If you enjoyed those seasons you’d probably like it. If you didn’t enjoy those seasons it’s not for you.

>>150045334
>king of the hill was always anti-toxic masculinity
>Hank KICKS Jimmy's Ass
That isn't about "toxic masculinity," it's about assholes. If Bobby's boss had been an idiot woman who almost got him killed, he would've done the same.

>>150046072
Yeah, Jimmy was a blatant retard who treated Bobby like shit. Hank probably raged a little bit harder than usual, too, because of the realization that he'd been giving Bobby bad advice in this particular situation.
I don't think kicking the ass of some literal retard who almost killed your son has anything to do with feminism kek

>>150042471
For a thread worrying about woman writers, you should be glad Hiscock is still there!!!!

>>150046072
>asshole
Yeah, that's toxic masculinity. It's when you think being toxic to others (exploiting and abusing others) is a
masculine trait to aspire to under the basis of it being inherently confrontrational and aggressive.

Right wing grifters lie that it means "men bad" when it isn't case. It is when you think being a dick to everyone is a great thing that all men should aspire to be. Women can be aggressive, but it is a primary problem in male circles because most cultures encourage men suppress their emotions and resolve their conflicts in a disasterous manner. It's the reason why men are predominantly gangsters or terrorists.

>>150046212
Or is it more about women dragging the entire concept of masculinity into discussions about assholes
>its not about "men bad"
Okay cool so then why do you need to involve masculinity in every discussion about an asshole? While you might admit that "toxic femininity" exists, i guarantee you spend absolutely 0 time expressing how bad and damaging that is. And you CERTAINLY dont bring the entire concept of femininity into "toxic" territory whenever a woman is an asshole.
It is this hypocrisy which leads others to believe it is simply about man hate. And theyre correct.

>>150046212
>It's when you think being toxic to others (exploiting and abusing others) is a masculine trait to aspire to
But women do the same shit as the example. I had a former female boss that wanted to break safety protocols to save on operation costs. Was she being masculine? No, she was just being an evil cunt.
>It's the reason why men are predominantly gangsters or terrorists.
Oh okay, criminals aren't violent because they want more out of life, it's because they're trying to prove they're manly. Thank goodness we have you around to call them out.

>>150046244
>While you might admit that "toxic femininity" exists, i guarantee you spend absolutely 0 time expressing how bad and damaging that is.
Because men like Andrew Tate, Vladimir Putin, and Donald Trump aren't embraced for being submissive and kind, they're embraced for being assholes who treat others like garbage. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, toxic masculinity is a huge problem in male circles, and that's why people criticize it in media.

If every man aspired to be like Jesus Christ, then the term wouldn't exist in the first place.

>>150037181
It just really triggered incels to hear that their own behavior is the reason their forever alone.

>>150046336
None of those people have nearly as much bearing on the rise of counterfeminist thinking as you seem to think they do.
I, for one, have only ever voted for one party: Democrat. I stopped voting entirely, however, when feminist bullshit became the party's only platform. I would never vote for a republican but dropping workers' rights for a bunch of feminist nonsense is blatantly disgraceful.
I love women and dont approve of hating them. I would never have noticed the feminism shit at all if it hadn't been intentionally pervasive and pushed to the point of absurdity. Those people you mention are retarded and mean jack shit to me. I wasn't brainwashed by boogiemen, dear.
>Christian nonsense
I dont belive that. And let's be honest, you dont either. You just use it to tell other people how to act.

>>150038070
Anyone below 120 should be consider a legal retard

>>150040702
Correct. YOU are the problem. You are the social defective retard that only interacts with people with the expectation of a transaction rather then good company.

>>150045611
>I only interact with females to get sex, not companionship
>why do no women want to interact with me
A mystery for the ages. Most people meet their partners through friends. When all your friends are just other women hating incels in discord, you wove the rope you'll hang yourself with.

>>150046336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqywayPmbc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWrhRgkfwHA
>If every man aspired to be like Jesus Christ, then the term wouldn't exist in the first place.
Oh let me fix you up.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2011%3A12-20&version=NIV

>>150046444
>>How do I get women to like me?
>Just be friends with them first.
>>I spent 3 years being friends with this woman, but when I asked her out she still wasn't interested.
>You wanted her to like you? You entitled piece of shit.

>>150046543
The truth is between here and there
>be friends with girl
>she likes you back
>you are now going to fuck
As opposed to
>be friends with girl
>things do not escalate because shes not interested
>you are never going to fuck
Women want to have friends too, believe it or not. I think the issues lies with the fact that "let's just be friends" is a fucked up rejection and women consistently defend it. Its fucked up from any person, male or female, because it's not a genuine offer of friendship. It is a rejection that now places the responsibility of the rejected to
>say yes and accept that youre actually not friends and things will fizzle to never talking again
>say no and be the bad guy who doesnt want to be friends
No matter who you are or what gender, being on the rejected side of that fucking sucks. Women need to unironically nut up and be more direct.

Honestly, all this culture war autism is why I just stick to anime, super easy to avoid this dumb shit, even on 4chan.

>>150046602
>I think the issues lies with the fact that "let's just be friends" is a fucked up rejection and women consistently defend it.
They consistently defend it because it's intentional and fucked up from the beginning. If they genuinely just want friends, they can do any number of friend activities with other women. Women who want male "friends" want simps and, at most, a last resort option when Brad and Steve aren't available.

>>150046543
>only friends with the eventual goal of having sex, not because you enjoy them as a person
>WAAAAAAH Y I ALONE WIMMINZ EBIL

>>150046751
I've had a number of female friends over the years, both very beautiful and very not-so. It's not like I spent unreciprocated money on them, either. Most of them insist on buying my coffee when we hang out or paying for ingredients if we cook or some shit. I HIGHLY doubt that I'm so attractive that they all wanted to fuck and I am just too autistic to notice. They're interesting people. A girl I've known since 6th grade grew up to be a judge. Another is very wealthy and had spent WAY more money hanging out with me than I could probably ever repay. I just talk to them like they're regular people and it seems to work out just fine kek

>>150046801
Good cucky, keep enjoying them only as a person and tell yourself you have no physical attraction or needs of your own. Maybe you'll get some headpats later.

>>150037092

Don't you know anon? Nowdays the only emotions the normies exhibit on internet (and by proxy the only that they are able to percieve) are:

a)Smugness.
b)Self Importance.
c)Horniness
d) SEETHING RAAAGEEEE
f)Fanatic adoration

Which means that any form of emotional response that is not inherently positive will be translated into "he angry" and with this new age psychology bullshit, being upset clearly means you are actually sad, and thus crying.

Don't try to understand, it's an old rethorical tactics of trying to disarm your oponent by making them look bad.
"Look he is crying! See? He is pathetic! His opinion doesn't matter"

>>150046828
I'm happy for you. But I want you to know a lot of men who tried having female friends did not have a similar experience. And I wonder if those good friends you have would still defend the "let's just be friends" line.

>>150046828
Ditto. The guys who dump money on a friend with the eventual hope of fucking and getting hurt when rejected do it to themselves. I've never treated my women friends different then my male friends. I met my wife through a friend in college. Most of my married friends met their eventual wife through another friends.
Nerdy guys I knew in highschool who have that transactional view "you owe me sex because I bought you things all the time despite clearly not being interested" to my knowledge are all still single losers. It's much more important to be friendly and be an interesting person.

>>150046832
>can only conceive of being friends with multiple women for an orgy with all of them

>>150046884
Except they didn't try being friends. They tried being in a que with expectations and ulterior motives.

>>150046444
Look retard. Women cannot read minds. And I am allowed to want casual sex with no strings attached.
>>150046543
>>150046602
>>150046751
>>150046801
Nobody wants a girl "friend". Her being unattracted is an existential insult. We are friends, we are opposite genders, FUCK ME. Women don't think that way. Only chad gets to fuck, the other guys get to be the shoulder she cries on when chad won't call her back after sex.

>>150046920
>You wanted her to like you? You entitled piece of shit.

>>150046832
I have a wife I met through another friend in college. If you're only friends with a person with the expectation you're going to get sexual or monetary benefit from them, you're not their friend. You're a groupie.

>>150046965
...But you did get sexual benefit from them.

>>150046952
Your mentality of male-female connection is degenerated from casual sex into seeing the other with no higher human functions or inner life and yet wonder why this causes problems

>>150046904
>>150047011
You give malicious advice and wonder why the recipients hate you.

>>150046884
I think they would initially defend it if asked, but they're the type of people I'm happy and proud to call friends because I'm confident they'd adjust that significantly if I gave the explanation about why it is fucked up in general.

>>150046952
>WIMMINZ OWE ME SEX WITHOUT COMMITMENT
They don't. I assure you incel, you have no idea how women think. It's nothing to do with being a Chad. If you're expecting to bang super models while being a boring loser, you're the problem.
Bobby is a fantastic example in this show. He's not physically attractive. He's a funny guy who's passionate about his work. That's attractive.

>>150046955
You were only ever spending time with her hoping to be in a que. You were never a friend. You're like a groupie who hangs with famous people hoping you leach off their clout. You're using them and that's not attractive.

>women giving advice on women
Every man in history would laugh at you for humoring this. Assuming that truly is a woman and not just the more likely creature, the kind that hangs themselves often.

>>150047011
>>150047037
>WIMMINZ OWE ME SEX WITHOUT COMMITMENT
Muh commitment. To hell with commitment. Try indiscriminate randomized casual sex for once in your life.
>nothing to do with chad
>boring loser
Ok.
>muh bobby
What is attractive about him to women is he owns a business, and women are naturally attracted to guys who have material wealth. As in the women have $$'s in their eyes, kinda like a prostitute.

>>150047037
>If you're expecting to bang super models while being a boring loser
That's a big fucking If. The reason incels are becoming more common is average women see average men as "boring losers."
>You're using them and that's not attractive.
Interesting how using them is fine if you're handsome enough. Almost like attraction is a physical process that happens instantly and telling people to be friends first is a huge, deliberate waste of their time.

>>150046373
You can make the same arguments with good writing.

>>150047090
the paradox of being sexual selectors yet also insisting their sole value in life somehow isnt sex

>>150047187
>>150047201

>>150038777
The person in charge of the project is a black guy who's very vocal about social issues. That's the problem in general. Writers like to preach and make any dialogue preachy because they suck at "show, don't tell".

>>150046965
=)

>>150037816
I thought usually all writers are in a room and all write the episode. Then they alternate crediting just one or two.
In short: the 3 girls participated to all episodes.

>>150046992
I got friendship for years that still lasts to this day before I met my wife. She was our maid of honor. I was never friends with either of them expecting sex.

>>150047173
I'm not that attractive bro. If all you have to talk to people about is how bitter and lonely you are and how other people are to blame for your shortcomings; that's not interesting.

>>150047465
>If all you have to talk to people about is how bitter and lonely you are and how other people are to blame for your shortcomings
See, you assume that. You assume that incels have no life outside of being incels, and the fact that you got a relationship means any man who didn't is 100% at fault for his own problems. As much as you accuse us of not viewing women as people, you don't view other men as people.

>>150047479
First son in a few months. Feels great.

>>150047978
Wrong incel. I don't view my friendships with women as different from my friendships with men. You do, and that's why you fail.

>>150048335
>You do
You assume that I do, and that's why you fail to convince me.

>>150048335
Enjoy getting divorce raped you faggot cuckold. 50% divorce rate. And the other half turn into sexless marriages. By the way if you have any daughters they will make fine sex toys for men like me once they hit 18.