Thread 150045433

Anyone seen it?

What did you think? My expectations were low because I didn't really see how a sequel could be justified, but I think the idea was actually quite interesting and it was mostly good. The first is better but this was decent too.

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>>150045433 (OP)
I actually thought it was slightly better than the first one. There's plenty of books left to draw inspiration from so I'm hoping we get a third, although I think that's going to largely come down to whether or not 2 does well on the home video / streaming release, or if it's able to stay in theaters a long time like the first movie did.

>>150045433 (OP)
I want to cum all over Mr. Wolf's face and use Mr. Snake like a reptile fleshlight.

>>150047319
>>I actually thought it was slightly better than the first one
Really? Why so?
I thought most everything was better in the first. The humour, the writing, the character dynamics, the villain. I don't think the 2nd was bad by any means, I quite enjoyed it but going back to the 1st I consider it pretty top tier

>>150045433 (OP)
>more girlboss crap
boys, especially straight white boys deserve to have franchises and hobbies for themselves free of extreme left feminist garbage.

>>150047787
I think that's unfair
The Bad Guys are all male bar 1 and they win

>>150045433 (OP)
Imo it suffers from sequel syndrome a bit in that introducing new characters means other ones take a massive backseat and have no impact. Snake being an obvious one.
Towards the end when they hit off into space it sorta started dragging too. The time spent on the action there could have been better spent on character dynamics and arcs instead. So many of the films arcs seemed unresolved or went nowhere. Did it suffer a lot of rewrites?

Diane and Wolf have their love interest but rather than preaching love has no barriers they just remove Diane as Governor, so class does dictate love.
Wolf gets tempted into being a bad guy again but it ends as soon as it's introduced.
Everyone finds out about Diane's secret life, literally no repercussions. I don't think they ever say how the other group knew it was her too
Diane and Wolf barely interact to actually push their relationship forward.
No one actually gives the bad guys a chance or respects them for the whole film, so the entire setup of the film to show respect is earned never even gets addressed. Rather than their actions showing redemption, they had to stop an entire evil plot and then get presumed dead and only then did people like them. I don't get what sort of message that's supposed to be. The first one was about redemption even when people view you differently. This one kinda just said screw that.
Kitty Kat's lust for gold isn't really explored upon, or why she goes total psycho over it. It kept feeling like it was coming but just never did. Her heist made no sense either. Steal all the gold into space and uh, then what?

I like the idea of a new group coercing the bad guys and I think the setup for the film was good. The humour is largely carried over from the first, and I really like Wolf as a character and think he matches up to the antics in the first.
Overall I don't think it's a bad film though. Flawed, not as good as the first (though less Mary Sue-ing) but still an enjoyable watch

>>150047787
>Tell me you haven't watched the movie without telling me you haven't watched the movie.

>>150047319
i feel like they're set up for a tv show now

>>150048517
If it's the same writers and the same animation company as the TV specials then it's gonna be dead IP walking. For as much as people say they hate beanmouth, Mr. Wolf looks kind of cursed when he just has generic dog mouth flapping-- in fact, everything in those specials looks cursed because of how little the characters are actually animated which is the exact opposite of the movies. The tried and true "radio with pictures" approach to TV animation does not work with The Bad Guys.

>>150048956
I've not seen the TV specials
But I feel like they expected the sequel to do big numbers
The ending of 2 seemed like a prime setup to just make a TV show about their adventures as secret agents. it's the exact kind of spin off where you can have 30 minute episodes while not affecting the actual canon

>>150049188
>But I feel like they expected the sequel to do big numbers

They released it near the end of summer on a non-holiday weekend with little marketing, no toys and no brand tie ins. Universal is clearly expecting it to be a valuable addition for streaming services more than they were expecting it to be a box office smash.

Webs. That is all.

>>150049188
They're going to release a Bad Guys TV Series set before the events of the first movie.https://web.archive.org/web/20240901051320/https://litter.catbox.moe/3kid2z.mp4
https://web.archive.org/web/20240901051425/https://litter.catbox.moe/y4wcvj.mp4
https://web.archive.org/web/20240901051523/https://litter.catbox.moe/4eg5vf.mp4

>>150050860
>before the first
so still no diane??

>>150047319
>>150048517
They're clearly doing a third movie about them as Men in Black with aliens.

>>150048119
Honestly he's not that wrong, they spend most of the movie getting outplayed by their female counterparts, despite the fact they were obviously going to lose in the end.

Also the fox governor was arguably a better thief and 100% a better fighter than the Bad Guys put together, and that was already in the first movie. All of it gets confirmed in the sequel, to the point they had to send her away on a goose chase for 3/4 of the movie because she's so ridiculously competent having her where she was needed would kill pretty much kill the plot.

>>150052579
Nice butt

>>150050860
>>150049271
is it already on streaming services?
it is a quick turnaround for a movie, but it didn't look like it had a small budget.
Surely they expected it to do quite well?

Also odd they're doing the TV series before the first movie. I think it could be quite fun though

>>150051829
>so still no diane??
I don't see how they don't include her. She's got her Crimson Paw days and rise to Governer as well. There'd just be no crossover with the crew

Too random. They should have more complicated heists. Instead they have lucha Mexican wrestling, the pirhana fart gag that lasts 5 minutes and the heist itself doesn't seem that central to the plot. I thought the whole point is its a parody of Oceans 10 and heist movies.

I WANT SEX.

>>150051839
>female counterparts
I just wish they made them more interesting.
Having broken English isn't a character. Being a love interest gave the bird chick more character but none of them had their backgrounds explored.
Kitty Kat never went out past hurr durr i'm angry and tough
it feels very weird when the first film has the bad guys as some of the greatest villains in history then some random kids come in and foil them. But it's kind of inevitable for a sequel. You have to have someone beat them because they need adversity

>>150052884
The series, which premieres on Netflix, had already entered production in 2021, months before the first film was released. It hasn't been officially announced yet, but details have been leaking, including casting calls (https://imgur.com/a/bad-guys-tv-series-yyCKUrF), animatics, and even 3D models for the characters.

>>150053494
I fully expect it to be terribly written+animated. A kiddie show with no merits like the specials.

Would Kitty even allow you to pull out? I think she'd physically stop you.

>>150047784
>Really? Why so?
NTA but
>animation better (see wrestling scene)
>jokes more entertaining
>villains aren't just stereotypical evil science man, and don't sound british
>space gold magnet > guinea pig mind control (and made for a more interesting climax than another car chase)
>more big police lady
Watched the first about a week before watching the second and just didn't really enjoy it as much.

>>150054723
Huh, interesting. I pretty much disagree with all your points. Horses for courses I guess

>>150047784
>Why so?
Esl

>>150056205
You are? Cool but I don't see how it's relevant

>>150056351
>no u
Come on now.

>>150056366
Why So is grammatically correct and a perfectly valid English question. You are looking very stupid here anon and exposing yourself.
Quit while you're ahead champ

>>150056447
>Why So is grammatically correct and a perfectly valid English question.
Nobody says "why so", they say "how so" and a native English speaker would know that.

>>150056482
When so?

>>150056492
I accept your concession.

>>150056554
'Fraid so.

What color are Kitty's panties? Camo?

>>150056924
Shimapan or nopan.

>>150056482
>uhh it's just nobody talks like that!
kek, what an awful cope. I told you to quit while you were ahead. If you can't grasp the King's English, then don't go around trying to correct people

>>150056946
LEARN ENGLISH

LEARN

ENGLISH

>>150056967
You're a retard and likely brown, "why so" is not a phrase any English speaker uses and the more you try to save face now the more retarded you look. I accept your concession.

>>150057026
Says so?

>>150057048
Peso.

>>150057088
Miso.

>>150057116
So-so.

>>150057170
Know so?

>>150056924
Black.

>>150053648
>I think she'd physically stop you.
Jesus

>>150045433 (OP)
Sorry, haven't seen it yet

>>150057960
Go see it

>>150047889
>Did it suffer a lot of rewrites?
Anyone know btw? Still curious because it just felt disjointed at times

>>150047889
>then get presumed dead and only then did people like them.
kek i didn't realize how fucked up that was
>Steal all the gold into space and uh, then what?
it's not about the reward

>>150058368
This is all I got

>>150058465
i mean it makes sense, the movie is called The Bad GUYS 2

>>150058488
more like the fuckable guys

>>150058512
i'd have a threesome with wolf and diane, absolutely

>>150058518
based

>>150058612
Wat

>>150058368
There were a few scenes and subplots that got cut. They cut Kitty's backstory because she used to be Diane's partner in crime. Cutting that scene didn't just mean saving a few minutes of runtime, it meant they could save themselves having to include more scenes with Diane and Kitty airing out their baggage and keep the story more focused. I would love to have seen a longer movie with more character interactions but I think they hit the right balance for an animated family feature that has to be right around the 90 minute mark.

I wish we could get a 2 hour mainline release animated movie but that has been a pipe dream for decades. 30 minutes of additional animation over a typical animated feature would make a studio head sweat bullets and it probably would not translate into more profit.

>>150058820
you'd think an extra 30 mins with 3D animation wouldn't be such a big deal

>>150058833
30 minutes means you're going to need at least 1 additional action setpiece to keep it exciting. Setpieces are very expensive to develop, and on top of that they need to flow into the story organically. The hardship of movie making comes down to this phrase: "It's not about what you can add to the movie but what you can rip out." The movie would have been over $100 in budget if they made it half an hour longer and with the box office it received, that means it wouldn't have been able to make a profit unless they dumped another $100 million into marketing it.

>>150059061
>>150058820
If only director's cut editions of animated movies existed...

>>150060059
Somebody is going to try someday, the question is whether or not it will actually prove to be a financially viable model or if it's just going to be a one and done flex by a studio that's one a hot streak.

And I'm not counting when Disney added shitty new musical numbers to Lion King and Beauty and the Beast for their theatrical rereleases. That was new content added to movies that were already finished, and the new content was clearly both an interruption and of inferior quality.

>>150058393
>it's not about the reward
Good point, but it's literally un unfeasible crime in every which way. The bad guys used their heists to fund their lifestyle.
If you literally take all the gold in the world, you not only can't do that, but one day you're returning to earth in a big ass rocketship where you have to be cleared to land. you're getting caught. it didn't feel so much like a heist as much as a Doofenschmirtz plot

>>150058465
Interesting, I'm glad Diane took a backseat though. I like her but she's not particularly interesting imo because she's too flawless.
I am surprised that's the ONLY thing. I just don't get why so many of those plot points feel so disjointed. They stood out to me while watching the film, I wasn't even trying to sit there and create some shitlist

>>150058820
>Kitty's backstory because she used to be Diane's partner in crime
See, now that is pretty interesting though maybe at odds with the crimson paw working solo. I understand what you mean in terms of baggage, but by not exploring it at all I think it leaves some gaping holes. I do think some things definitely could have been condensed to make room

>>150058612
>>150058713
>>150060219
The genderswap version of her would be named Dood.

>>150052884
>is it already on streaming services?
It's available for VOD, so digital rental. Not sure when it'll be on Netflix but the street date for being able to buy it is October 7 (including the disc versions).

>>150053540
Yeah, same... :(

>>150060219
Wat

>>150061524
They speak English in Wat?

>>150060537
How come so soon after theatrical release?

>>150052941
>pirhana fart gag that lasts 5 minutes
this was in the first one too
i can only assume they thought people loved it because that shit just kept going on in 2

>>150053540
It's 120% going to be of the same quality as that Megamind show.

>>150053540
It will probably be bad. At the same time, it might serve a purpose of keeping kids interested in the IP between movies, and it might finally open the door for some actual merchandising.