Thread 150066961

ITT: The Best of Tv Tropes

>>150066961 (OP)
https://youtu.be/cgBQ1dXN9uk
The fact that this person quotes the nightmare fuel page of Wreck-it Ralph.

>>150066961 (OP)
>TVTropes
is that site anything BUTgay fanfiction at this point?

TVTropes is the only possible thing that can rival DeviantArt as the most autistic website.

>>150067112
What about 4chan?

careful with this one

>>150067112
Too many other disorders to have autism as the defining one.

>>150066961 (OP)
>>150067132
The perfect embodiment of that SpongeBob small rollercoaster gif

Poasting in an off-topic thread.

>>150067132
>>150067431
Holy fuck, you almost gave me a heart attack. Keep that shit away!

Troper Tales was an incredible read

Is Tvtropes actually fine to use when it comes to keeping a list of actual narrative elements for writing? Or should I be using something else?

>>150068126
It's fine to use 99% of the time, just avoid the "biased fan-driven" sections where you get legit autistic children acting like their kids cartoon of choice is an epic tapestry.

>>150067121
4chan is just annoying and ironic shitposting with plenty of genuine mental illness apart of autism

>>150066961 (OP)
COMICS
AND
CARTOONS
BOARD

>>150068126
As long you don't see "tropes" as legos for "writing and narrative building" you will be fine
Overreliance on tropes can negatively affect your own creative output because you are going by rules and terms imposed by other people

>>150068126
It's fine for generic things but any time they have a chance to touch on something retarded the content does, naturally they will.
>Actually a Good Idea: After giving it a brief thought, Hank admits that renaming American Somoas to Caramel DeLites 'is' a good change after all.

>>150067095
Pretty much
I only use it for literal fanfic recs, and even then i take it with a grain of salt.

>>150068126
It's not a reliable academic source and taking advice from it will give you brain damage. The purpose it serves is to use the YMMV pages as a measuring stick for fan opinions.

Wish they didn't purge/yeeted some of the Self-Demonstrating pages.

>>150068242
>I only use it for literal fanfic recs
The only place you can trust for fanfic recs is Homestuck General.

>>150068237
>They do, however, find solace in learning that Girl Scout cookies remain the same, even agreeing that updating the name of Samoas to Caramel deLites is a wholesome change
lmao

>>150068126
This image deals psychic damage to me but I don't remember why

Call me petty or something, I was probably 16 and it was 2013 and yes I was also being autistic, but my first realization that TV Tropes was just autism central was noticing the horse show entries being way more common, detailed, and excessive than something like AtLA's. And I hate calling everything I don't like reddit, but you knke what I mean by the usual TV tropes writing style

>>150068126
Anything that gets popular is going to end up having garbage pages because every dipshit and their grandmother is going to spam the page with every "trope" they can think of no matter how much of an asinine stretch they are.

>>150068126
Maybe? I could see value in stuff like this as a quick refresher, you just gotta steer clear of the super autismo shit

People still use this website I thought it died off when they nuked a bunch of old tropes for being "problematic"
And tumblr dying off

>>150068745
>but my first realization that TV Tropes was just autism central was noticing the horse show entries being way more common, detailed, and excessive than something like AtLA's.
Sort of related but I swear there was this one time period where damn near every trope linked back to Mahou Sensei Negima for some reason

>>150068862
I thought it was Hayate the Combat Butler.

>>150067132
holy crap, and this show did, in fact, air on PBS kids???

>>150068745
for me it was when they had High Octane Nightmare Fuel and Nightmare Fuel pages and the horse show's HONF page was massive, every episode had at least five entries with a lot of those entries being "its scary when you think about it", and it got to the point where Nightmare Fuel pages got completely rehauled.

>>150068126
what, no? why do you think this thread exists? people come here to laugh at them for a reason.

>>150068745
>ATLA fag
>is a giant insecure crybaby his sacred cow doesn't have a bigger dick
the episodic nature of mlp + the amount of episodes + being a much older show + having crossovers guarantees way more content.

>>150068821
>goes into one of the free tv tropes clones
>one of the first pages I see is a manga about correcting the lesbianism of a women, and actually succeeding
Kek. Fuck TV tropes, they removed the fun out of this.

>>150067112
Name one thing on TvTropes comparable with this shit.
https://www.deviantart.com/isaachelton

>LAWL, THIS WIKI SITE IS SHITTY. WE SHOULD RAID IT MY FELLOW LEGION ANONERS!
Off topic website gossip/thinly veiled raidfaggotry threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/4 >>>/global/rules/6 >>>/co/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=150066961

Nobody's talking about raiding, moron

>>150068821
They're still nuking tropes. Fuckers were deleting so much shit, one of the higher level mods had to step in and tell them not to remove or rename anything that brings them major traffic.

>>150069509
You retard.

>>150069186
>h a lot of those entries being "its scary when you think about it",
The irritating thing is, TVTropes already has a trope for that, Fridge Horror.

>>150069509
This is clearly some kind of bot that shits out an automated copypasta based on random keywords in the thread

>>150066961 (OP)
This is just what the average online zoomer is like. They only care about characters being gay in their baby cartoons.

>>150068574
>>150068237
>people on TV tropes aren't little baby bitches about when things change
>4chan is
We have a long way to go to be less autistic than them.

>>150067132
>>150067431
Reminder, this is the work of a autistic guy who publicly announced that his current goal in live is making Ready Set Go the most extensively cataloged piece of media on TV Tropes. He unironically lives and breathes this show

>>150069770
The ironing.

>>150069903
Sauce?

>>150069903
I've read the discussion page on it. It only got the attention of the mods because it was just a pic and caption. Then the tropers thought it was silly for a toddler show to scary.

If you get creative enough archive.org you can see that as it was before it got deleted.

>>150068126

Not really.

The concept of devices and narrative structures existed long before the idea of tropes became popular. Those are more useful in analysing a story then breaking it down to identified examples of "hey that's like this other thing".

For example, Time Travel plots and It Was All A Dream endings might be known things in writing, but it's up you to know why they are kinda hacky. You woud know because of how apiece of prose engages with the audience or reader, treats their intelligence etc. etc. rather than just saying something is bad because it's overused.

>>150066991
I like that she calls turbo trans only to describe how he kills himself right after

>>150068449
It's still a decent guideline for noteworthy stuff. If a fic has a tvtropea page, at the very least, means either he author is autistic and dedicated enough to make it, or his fic has enough following so people are willing to make the page. In any case, it means the fic has enough content to read at the very least.

>>150067431
honestly this joke is getting old can you stop posting it?

>>150070192
The worst one for me is "Watch it for the representation"
>Yeah that show was total garbage but it had representation.

>>150069402
>being a much older show
what

>>150070924
mlp is from the 80s, the 2010 show is a remake.

>>150066961 (OP)
ran across this gem in retsuko a while back

>>150068126
it can be helpful for putting a name (hopefully not one of their old really dogshit ones) to something you like/dislike in stories
also it's just fun to read sometimes as a timekiller
the trivia sections can have interesting info
you might find some stuff in YMMV stupid enough to laugh at

>>150069402
>>150071036
What percentage of MLP content on tvtropes relates to G1-3?

>>150068126
Think of tv tropes as an encyclopedia of commonly noticed writing conventions rather then something that defines what those are if that makes sense. Its perfectly fine.

>>150068154
also gotta keep an eye out for similarly related heavily policed media
like some viewpoints will be demonstrated in YMMV fairly but for certain stuff every critical point will have some snide following addendum added by someone else
good example would be Wish, literally any point given to the bad guy is disclaimed with a paragraph about why that's actually definitively wrong in the opinion section
there's a lot of forced fence sitting for some media (NIMH 2 instance defends a lot of the movie here and there claiming some like it even though it is fucking notorious for being unwatchable dogshit with no fans)

>>150071138
>it can be helpful for putting a name (hopefully not one of their old really dogshit ones) to something you like/dislike in stories
That's why I will always remember "Gameplay and Story Segregation" desu

>>150069598
lol I remember threads about that
also remember the controversy over hartman hips
apparently they take issue with whether or not it's real given creators have never really explicitly said they gave women big hips cause they weren't allowed to go for big breasts

>>150070192
>Homestar Runner: Strong Sad is interpreted as transmasc by some fans due to him having a higher pitched voice compared to both of his older brothers and having eyeliners.
ew
also
>Fans often create these headcanons for characters from cartoons and animated works that are geared towards children and teens, despite (or due to) these works typically having little to no discussion of gender identity in them.
I like how this is just thrown in the middle there, with no comment made
Hmmmmmmm, I wonder why......

>>150070590
eat cock

>>150070875
You have to understand that to someone with terminal tvtropes-brain, the actual experience of watching something is irrelevant compared to the experience of listing which trope-boxes it ticks off.

>>150071497
Turbotastico!

>>150068194
back seat jannies are worse than off topic posters

>>150066991
I mean, if you wanted to bring an actual blink it and you miss it disturbing moment, why not bloody Gir? Kek, had to double check because it sounds like some shitty crepypasta about some weird gorey easter egg that hints at a super secret episode, that has a plot that borders on bizarro novel level of insanity and edge.

>>150068126
No, it'll make you dumber and a worse writer. Stay away from that site at all costs.

>>150070192
most of these are either "character is a masculine woman/feminine man in personality" "character is a masculine woman/feminine man in appearance"- so in other words, stereotyping- or "character wears the colors pink, white, and blue", usually not even the same shades as the trans flag.
not to be all "not like the other transes" or anything but I fucking despise people who come up with these headcanons on the basis of a character being a masculine woman or feminine man. I thought we LGBTs were supposed to be against gender norms??

>>150067095
IIRC I think the admins have been trying to crack down on a lot of the stupid shit, especially the trope deletion shit, that's been going on.

>crapsaccharine
>it's a bright and colorful world where the crappy part is projected from the troper's own insecurities

>>150072393
Its about being reactive, and all reaction needs to have a static picture to define themselves against. thus steryotyping with an extra step.

>>150069440
what website

>>150067132
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

>>150071348
a man of culture i see

>>150068126
I think TVTropes is secretly mostly a fetish site. It kind of clicked after I saw the ‘tranquilized midsentence’ article.

>>150072868
I suppose you could tropedia at fandom or all the tropes at miraheze.

>>150073633
I think you need a set idea of why you're going there
I look up shit like space feudalism in media, see what cartoon has done something, there's some obscure stuff that somehow you'd only know have fans because of their TV Tropes pages. The page for Universe Compendium has lists of franchises with their own encyclopedias which was cool

>>150069402
>>150071036
You fucking know no one gives a shit about the pre-g4 shows. This is not an insult on the shows themselves, just a fact. There's this ancient MLP wikipedia fansite for toy collectors and the biggest fucking page on it was the g4 one after bronies became a thing
Also this was fucking 2013, there were like two fucking seasons of FiM

>>150070590
I didn't even know about it until this thread

>>150068242
i've looked at the fanfic rec section of a couple things i like but it was just
-popular fanfic everyone in the fandom knows
-blatant self-shilling

>this is the website where we autistically describe and catalog everything featured in media
>people do this for Kodomo no Jikan
>admins lose their minds and purge it and any other reference to sexuality involving kids even though it features in multiple media
>this is the website where we autistically describe and catalog everything featured in media THAT ISN’T ICKY
Still gives me a good chuckle, if a website could be a lolcow, it would be TVTropes.

They really, really need to get rid of Unintentional Period Piece because given how it's used, every work ever that's set in the time it was coming out is one. Actually, there's no way to avoid anything being one unless you set it in the past or something. It's probably the most useless and poorly defined yet overused trope on the site.

>>150068862
The way the site works, anything with a highly concentrated autistic fanbase or very dedicated autists gets brought up everywhere on the site. Look how often shit like El Goonish Shive is brought up or used for page images or TGWTG (especially Linkara and Todd in the Shadows). Hell, one of the most notable tropes on the site, Big Lipper Alligator Moment, is a fucking Nostalgia Critic thing.

>>150068126
it depends on user input, so it's only as thorough as the fans care to be at the time of writing. you'll look at a trope and think "there's a lot more instances of this in the series" but the only cover a particular or prominent examples; or you'll see tropes unlisted and think "there's definitely instances of that in this series, why isn't it there?". the end result of which is of course be the change you want to see

>Recently deleted multiple anime, manga and video game pages like pic related because it's "pedopandering"
>Cuties and Made in Abyss still exists.

They even prevented non-registered users from viewing the Content Violations forum and archiving the doomed pages and possibly moving them to Tropedia.

>>150068449
Where else I'm gonna get my Fate crossover fanfics?

>>150075905
Allthetropes doesn't feel right nor the same as an alternative because of the obnoxious intrusiveness of fandom.com

>>150066961 (OP)
It is highly amusing to look up a thing that you really like and then read through the schizobabble on it's TvTrope page. 9 times out of 10 you'll find some rather esoteric and nonsensical tropes or just really big stretches.

>>150075905
That just seems silly. So much nonsense in Arachnid for them to catalogue, and they Nix it for, what, Goki? It's like a fly spurning shit.

>>150072393
a lot of the progress regarding what men and women can women wear and been seen as still typical men and women got undone by the surge trans discussion and hyperfocus

>>150074950
IDK this post may become Harsher In Hindsight, don't you think?

>>150066961 (OP)
Why are people reading into friendship between two little girls. That's creepy and weird. It's just regular interactions with another person especially with how children behave growing up.

>>150066961 (OP)
This site was nerfed hard.

>>150076711
because they're creepy and weird

>>150072393
>I thought we LGBTs were supposed to be against gender norms??
You're the ones enforcing them the most anon, where have you been?

From Linkara's Power Rangers retrospective

>>150068745
I thought this was referring to Bojack at first

>>150074808
They did the same with that Gushing over magic girls shows.

>>150077799
>sees the Dairanger suits once
>has a mental breakdown
This is very Dogseatingdogs6 of Linkara.

>>150066961 (OP)
What the hell am I reading?

>>150066961 (OP)
So the writer of that sat down and watched toddler slop and thought they saw a child is lusting over an adult in a toddler show on Disney?

>>150074950
They deleted We're Still Relevant Dammit instead.

>>150078149
For a lot of shipping nonsense, a certain C. S. Lewis quote comes to mind.

>>150070182
Not (you) but it's true

>>150074950
>Many works that are intended to be "contemporary" end up displaying so many cultural quirks that later audiences mistake it for a deliberate exaggeration of the era by a work made much later. Works that are explicitly set in the Present Day avoid this by proudly declaring the era that the work is intended to reflect, but other works attempt to be more creative in their references, in order to trick the audience into thinking that the current era of the work is supposed to be the same time period of decades later. This article describes the effect on audiences when that attempt fails and the audience is painfully aware of how old the work is.
Many of the examples completely ignore the "trying to be undated" part, to the point that the page unironically lists Seltzer and Friedberg's filmography and "#SELFIE" by The Chainsmokers as examples.

>>150074950
It’s one of those universal tropes, same as LGBT Fanbase

>>150067431
I always see people bringing up this page but the others are equally as autistic

>>150077799
>exaggerated and whiny (in usual Lewis fashion)