Thread 150071447

Snyder requires the viewer to believe in Hope and not be jaded by the world. Asking modern audiences to suspend their pessimism for 2 hours and look towards something greater was quite ahead of its time.

>>150071447 (OP)
If it was supposed to be hopeful, then why didn’t it FEEL hopeful? The color palette, the dialogue, the overall plot, even the acting, everything about the movie is at a baseline level of grim and serious
>b-but it has a hopeful ending! and hopeful themes!
if you want people to feel hopefully and “look towards something greater”, maybe don’t make the actual experience of your movie so fucking dull and hopeless for 90% of it.

People in my theater literally burst out laughing when Clark and Lois starting making out in the smoking ruins of Metropolis.

>>150071447 (OP)
What really has to go wrong in someone's life to make them a Snyderfag. How do you become so broken you fall into the same delusion as Snyder and continue to still miss the point.

>>150071447 (OP)
It's a bad movie.

The themes and Snyders directing were not bad but Goyers script was and studio rushing was.
Trying to be a revisionist about it when it comes to the context as to why it was hated is just not good faith arguing, ask yourself if it is what Vishnu or whoever would do saar.

>>150071653
he changed everything

>>150071447 (OP)
Man of Steel is about the bleakest, most hopeless superhero movie ever made anon.
Without a tautological statement that demands that it has to be about hope because Superman is in it, where is the hope in this movie? What are we supposed to be hoping for?
Hope is an extremely basic emotional response. If you have to TELL me its in the film, that means I didn't FEEL it, which means it wasn't there.

>>150071447 (OP)
He only saves one person in this movie breh

Reminder: Angry Joe loved MoS, yet didn't like Superman 2025. You're not an idiot like Angry Joe, are you?

>>150073797
I don't even know who the fuck Angry Joe is

>>150073797
All I know about Angry Joe is that he hated Risen, so he's a retard in my book.

>>150074257
Better that way, youngling
>>150074489
All of his opinions and critiques are terrible. I'm glad Geoff humiliated him

He crashes into numerous buildings killing thousands of people in the process, what a hopeful hero

>>150071447 (OP)
>believe in Hope
Saar...

>>150073797
Both suck, checkmate

>>150074257
Don't you have home room to get to? Go grab your backpack

>>150071447 (OP)
I think the movie lost me completely in the truck stop scene. I understand why the scene was there, I understand its intent because it's a scene that's been done 1000 times before, but in execution it simply doesn't work. I just can't help myself imagining this superpowered manbaby throwing a destructive temper tantrum because some random meathead made fun of his marble-sculpted pecs. The effect of the scene isn't amusing; it's legitimately worrying and undermines the movie's own overarching point.

It's a perfect illustration of how the movie is consistently a very basic and universal story that could have worked if only it didn't miscalculate on the storytelling level every. single. step of the way.

>>150071447 (OP)
If you were a child that didn't really know anything about Superman I can see why you might have liked the movie.

>>150071653
The necessary first step is being born in in the Indian subcontinent. It's all downhill from there.

>>150076749
This is the last place I expect to be reminded of Twin Dragon Encounters

>>150076808
I thought "that" scene was a remarkably similar storytelling staple with an also remarkably similar degree of miscalculation.

>>150076749
It's a problem of characterization in general too making the writing miss the mark even more. Though maybe the casting was also an issue. Cavill sort of played the character (not sure if consciously) with a sort of condescending vibe that generally works against the character. Superman works best when he acts genuinely humble and unassuming despite how unlikely that'd be for such an immensely powerful entity .

>>150076883
Cavill can be charming and goofy, so I'm willing to call this a Synder problem. The director decides what emotions the actor is supposed to convey in the scene, and its clear that this is what they wanted.

MoS Clark... I genuinely don't think even LIKES humans. He has a couple of specific people he loves, and everyone beyond that seems to be just furniture to him.
Consider, for a moment, his complete and total disinterest in his surroundings and the collateral damage being done in the Smallville fight. This is his *home town*. He grew up here, he knows these buildings and streets like the back of his hand and is on a first name basis with everyone who lives here. But, apparently, he doesn't give a single shit about any of them or if they get hurt in the middle of his super fight. Not a single indication that he cares about any of them at all, except his mom.