Thread 150162729

Not officially confirmed but workers are saying the studio has closed down its doors last Friday.

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:xglig6vyxav74acw6g4jbxiy/post/3lxstj6yzqs2m

>>150162729 (OP)
https://xcancel.com/FortierMorghan/status/1961553893420122307

>There is no news about this. No announcements. But Nelvana closed its doors today. My dad worked there. It was, to a great extent, the playground I grew up in. It breaks my heart where the industry is going. This company deserved better announcement around this. Better celebration of its contribution to the Canadian entertainment system. But just…. nothing."

https://xcancel.com/DevenOClock/status/1962653456696492519

>With 54 years of history yet no major fanfare, Nelvana Ltd. closed its doors this past week.

>Some know this animation studio for their work on Rock & Rule, Star Wars Holiday Special, Droids and Ewoks. I knew them for incredible 90s shows that captured my imagination as a child."

https://xcancel.com/jenbrained/status/1962271439916011568

>Closed its doors on Friday. One of Canadas oldest and most prolific animation studios, produced hundreds of works, just gone in a snap. Canadian media is in a real crisis and it's gonna get worse"

>>150162729 (OP)
were they even still alive? I swear I haven't seen anything new of them in years

>>150162729 (OP)
Man, this is rough.

>>150162729 (OP)
I'll always remember it as the reason Nickelodeon missed out on the best the fairly oddparents seasons outside of the US

Why is western animation dying off this hard?

>>150162950
No one really watching is my guess.

>>150162743
>I swear I haven't seen anything new of them in years
They probably made a few preschool shows

>>150162729 (OP)
Why didn't they just make Anime?

>>150163180
They couldn't do the things that make anime popular (over-the-top violence and degeneracy)

>>150162739
>Canadian media is in a real crisis and it's gonna get worse
I'm sure giving work permits to another two million Indians will fix everything. Elbows up!

>>150162739
Not looking good for Ubisoft because they got free gibs from Canada.

>>150162729 (OP)
Now even ore kids using India Generated AI slop on Youtube as a replacement. This is what childhood is in 2025

>>150162729 (OP)
>adobe trash rig slop factory finally gets shut down
lmao based

Rollie Pollie Olie, Redwall, Sam and Max, Babar, Seven Little Monsters, Franklin, Little Bear... So many shows of my adolescence and childhood, gone, just like my memories...

>>150163180
They did

>>150163323
>>150163330
They're redirecting all the media funds to housing projects, aren't they...
Honestly this is just a sign that our industry should have privatized years, maybe even decades ago

>>150162950
streaming is a cancer
no one has figured out how to operate in it outside of the absolute big hits
and youtube is extra unreliable to air stuff

>>150163502
Justin Trudeau really fucked up a lot of things huh.

>>150163537
Carney's the one doing the redirecting, Justin simply ignored the industry entirely
>>150163511
In the Soviet Union these conditions were used as justification for an "artistic revolution" among animators, because they realized the governments viewed their works as weapons of rebellion rather than mediums for telling stories

>>150162729 (OP)
>Parent company is hemorrhaging money.
>Sold off the ToonBoom animation software to a private equity company.
>Kids not watching traditional tv anymore.
It was too big for what it did.

>>150163379
anon do you think a studio shutting down magically erases all their work from existence

>>150162950
Most people only watched because they had nothing better to do, but now we have the internet.

Elbows up!

>>150162729 (OP)
RIP to them. I watched Franklin, Little Bear, Maggie and the Ferocious Beast and Rolie Polie Olie all the time as a little kid.

>>150163537
It works out brilliantly for the billionaires.
Bring people from the 3rd world, pay them slave wages (which is still good by their standards). Don't care how it negatively impacts the rest of the country country, and if anyone criticizes the direction just call them racist.
It's that simple!

>>150163755
Nelvana made those? Oh thank fuck, I hated all that shit

>>150163663
For me it might as well. All things are being erased, day by day.

>>150162950
In Canada it's because 2 companies bought everything and they're a retarded duopoly. In the USA its because the animation studios insist on working in the most expensive place in the country.

>>150162950
Because of India.

>>150163511
>outside of the absolute big hits
This happened

>>150163672
>Most people only watched because they had nothing better to do
Because of this. People watched the second and third rate shit because it was on and they had time to kill. Now in the age of internet and streaming, people are only going to waste their time on someone's A-Game shit and nothing else. No one is going to just watch some low effort shit because it happens to be on any longer. Those days are done.

>>150163980
Similar thing happened in the US. Universal, Disney, and Discovery bought up all the little studios and nearly everything is churned out by the big three.

>>150163755
don't forget The Adventures of TINTIN and Eek the Cat
>>150163950
>hating Franklin
you can go count by twos and tie a rope around your neck

>>150162729 (OP)
I'll fondly remember Little Bear. Beautiful opening theme animation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFWpoTEayk

>>150164035
>No one is going to just watch some low effort shit because it happens to be on any longer.
Of course they do, they just do it on Tiktok now.

>>150163763
Give a normal person's take, not the CSIS take

>>150162729 (OP)
To put this into perspective for those unaware, this is massive. It's between this and PBS shutting down for the biggest /co/ thing this year, and it's probably still this
Nelvana has worked on literally hundreds of cartoons, many of which were international collaborations, and distributed more.

>>150164048
>Liking Franklin
what are you, two years old? come back in sixteen years.
>you can go count by twos and tie a rope around your neck
wew good one, tough guy. Mr. franklin lover is one hardcore fella

>>150162950
The easy money is gone

>>150164257
They needed to adapt to a new audience, honestly
The studios that are still successful either switched to CGI, more serious stories, or both, and they did neither

>>150162729 (OP)
Damn, RIP. Loved watching Donkey Kong Country, Clone High (season 1), Beetlejuice, and Sam & Max.

>>150162729 (OP)
They helped with Eek the Cat, RIP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asqNyc8XdmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0p5eZkJyog

>>150162729 (OP)
I remember watching The Devil and Daniel Mouse, Rock and Rule, A Cosmic Christmas , and Romeo and Julie-8. Good times. I have them all on my plex server now, and my kids still love watching them.

>>150163180
They really should have.
Cardcaptors > Cardcaptor Sakura
It's not even close.

>>150162729 (OP)
F

RIP
Thanks for making the best iteration of Pippi

>>150162729 (OP)
Sad. They used to make such comfy shows

>>150162729 (OP)
:( animated the Tintin series

>>150163706
I am going to move to America at this point. Canadians are just too retarded to get better, anyone smart enough will have to vote with their feet.

>>150162729 (OP)
So, where's the new place to make cartoons on the cheap in the West? Brazil, Chile? Some central america country?

>>150163379
They should have made more shows like Sam and Max

soooo... what about the archives? all production material will be gone on a pyre?

i hope someone saves at least some cells....

>>150163502
So it would have closed sooner? We subsidize cancon because it can't realistically compete with America dipshit

>>150166430
It took you this long to realize that??

>>150166430
Come, gain your freedom Canuck. You'll be safe here.

>>150162729 (OP)
Looking at their catalog, and I'm surprised how much of my childhood was comprised by their shows. It fucking blows what is happening to western animation.

>>150166745
If you go to their parent company's website, Nelvana is still listed as one of their brands. I point that out because they shuttered a bunch of channels over the same weekend and those have been removed from that list.

Odds are the company hasn't been closed, but the production people have been fired. The reality is that this company hasn't had a big hit in a long ass time. They've been coasting off of doing licensing deals for other companies and stuff they made decades ago.

Odds are they don't have much of a real archive (beyond tapes of their shows) anymore either. Nelvana used to have its own office in Toronto, but for the last 15 years it's been operated out of the same building its parent company is based out of. When companies move offices, things get junked. I know they were selling off a bunch of cells.

>>150167268
It makes it slightly less painful if you accept that it basically died with the 2D medium in theatres, around the mid 2000s. There have been some one-off hits since then, but nothing anywhere near as masterful as what came before

Sad, the anniversary was just a few years ago
https://files.catbox.moe/r7r3it.mp4

>>150167268
Guess we're never getting a better quality release of Beetlejuice or anything else they made.

>>150165416
Damn smug brat.

>>150162729 (OP)
If you aren't a leaf, it's impossible to understand just how all-encompassing Nelvana was for animation in this country. They had a massive library of shows, many of which were excellent and childhood-defining, across all major networks, and put a ton of effort into their work. Material like the TinTin, Babar, and Pippi Longstocking adaptations were fantastic, as was their take on Redwall. Their original shows like Clone High, My Dad the Rockstar, and Ned's Newt were great, too. Hell, they even did some really good work with Japanese studios on Bakugan and Pecola. And Rock & Rule's a classic!

A shame that they, like the entire Canadian entertainment industry, crumbled under the weight of the country's failures (to say nothing of the greater western animation industry's collapse). They'll be missed.

>>150162729 (OP)
>they animated that dumbass Barney reboot for Cartoon Network
Literally nothing of value was lost.

>>150162729 (OP)
WTF is happening in Canada? Why is every piece of news coming out of that country about some massive decline?

>>150168061
You thought it becoming the 51st state was a joke?
No anon, its reality.

>>150168061
The entire country has run on "we're not the US!" for decades and has ignored the fact that they're owned by a tiny collection of megacorps who control everything.

>>150168061
fun mix of an atrocious government, being overrun by foreigners who don’t give a shit about the place, terrible weather making all of this worse, and a stringent attitude of never changing any of this just to own le americains

they literally voted in the same party that made life exponentially worse for decades just because their candidate gave some half-hearted lip service towards disliking trump
lo and behold the guy was on his knees and sucking trump’s dick within weeks of reelection because the alternative was the entire country going completely bankrupt

>>150168132
TDS is a real thing man. Its honestly impressive.

>>150168061
remember that Canada is responsible for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luc8BXz46dk

>>150168162
It fucking sucks because the guys who unironically go on about TDS are almost as insufferable quite often but after living in this shithole for so long I can’t help but think they’re way more right
I just hate to agree with them because they can be so obnoxious about it sometimes

>>150167268
they also did Oswald, Busy World of Richard Scarry, Eek the Cat, Fairly Oddparents, season 1 of Clone High, Pelswick, Quads, Donkey Kong Country and even their dub of Beyblade

Annexing Canada is inevitable, face it leafs

>>150168202
Oswald was animated through Hit Entertainment.
Richard Scarry was animated by Cinar, which then rebranded to Cookie Jar before being bought out by DHX, which rebranded as WildBrain.
Also, FOP wasn't animated by Nelvana, but they did own the international distribution rights for the show's first five seasons, which is why it aired on non-Nickelodeon channels like Disney Channel or Jetix in foreign countries.

>>150168172
wtf?

>>150168246
i've accepted its the only way at this point.

>>150168172
i am traumatized

>>150168452
We can gain seven or eight states out of it.

>>150168074
Nah not fast enough

Can't believe nobody's mentioned them animating Magic School Bus. Lot of shit I grew up on they made, they will be missed, RIP.

>>150168074
>>150168246
>>150168452
>>150168461
>>150168487
Making Canada the 51st state would be like giving California an extra set of electoral votes. You don't want that, Burgerbros.

>>150162729 (OP)
>>150162950
Among many factors, and this is my own assumption, is that no one assumed that his identity-based ideological stance would have consequences; unfortunately, for Canada, it was under the reign of Trudeau.

>>150168782
The only people in Canada left who aren't totally despondent about the state of the country are boomers who became millionaires over the last decade from the price of their house going up, and jeets who know they'll get double in gibs than what most Canadians will get paid this year.

>>150162950
Kids would rather watch Tung Tung Tung Sahur, and teens and adults would rather watch anime.

>>150168692
i wanna be american but i don't have the means to move.

Could be worse, could be klaspy ksupo

>>150169081
You and me both, pal.

>>150168782
I fucking wish.

>>150169081
>>150169108
Tell me about it.

Nelvana also did care bears for a period from the mid 80s to the late 90s. thats the version I like the best. all the newer reboots suck dicks

>>150167950
That sucks. I got pretty good critique from a Nelvana animator when I went up to Ottawa.

>>150169417
my friends animation teacher used to work at Nelvana, very nice lady he tells me.

said friend of mine went to a job fair in Toronto last year and noticed Nelvana had nothing open so the writing was on the wall.

that said it does make one wonder what will become of its library or is Corus gonna hold onto that? at this rate i won't be surprised if Rogers or Quebecor media try to buy them.

>>150162729 (OP)
Not a single reputable news source has covered this story yet. Kind of embarrassing.

>>150168175
It's one thing to dislike Trump (I don't like him either), but when you make it a core part of yourself to constantly talk about him, even when a discussion doesn't go near anything related to him, just fucking stop.

>>150168074
>>150168692
Shouldn't that be the 51st-60th states since Canada has 10 provinces of its own? Plus, that still gives us a nice round number

>>150162729 (OP)
RIP

>>150164107
I would totally fuck little bear up the ass

>>150171008
Nobody asked gooner

>>150171031
Kys

https://x.com/standupmonkey/status/1962875926552752141?s=46&t=uDpsoEXP--slK0wgBr9HAw

from Terry McGurrin.

>>150168838
I'm still here lol. I don't get why so many Canadians act patriotic then IMMEDIATELY leave everything behind and damn Canada to hell once Indians start swarming in. You were never a real Canuck, just a opportunist, no different than a Jeet.

>>150164035
>Now in the age of internet and streaming, people are only going to waste their time on someone's A-Game shit and nothing else.
bullshit they do
otherwise streamers and sloptubers wouldn't be ranking in so much views
you know how back in the 2000s everyone hated reality tv shows because how low effort they were and were pretty much taking money from scripted content?
yeah its like that but worse

>>150168132
PP is one of the most incompetent politicians I've seen in my life. If Harper ran again I'd vote for him. It says alot when Carney accomplished most of what PP set out to do within his first month as premier as a liberal. He should've said Canada has a immigration problem instead of making his awful campaign about pipelines and the carbon tax, no one gives a FUCK about pipelines nowadays. Maxime Bernier should've ran as conservative candidate, he looks like he actually has testosterone in his body.

>>150162729 (OP)
F.
Need to go through wikipedia to see just how many of their shows and collabs I watched growing up.

the issue is that western animation is both refusing to adapt to what modern kids want (non episodic formula stories that tell a grade epic tale like anime) and also being full political brainrot.
it's no wonder anime and video games are still thriving while western animation is dying.
limbus company alone mogs 90% of all modern western series/shows

>>150162729 (OP)
As someone born in 1997, I've really noticed how a third of the cartoons I watched during childhood was produced by them.

It's kind of sad to see them go. Rock & Rule, The Devil & Daniel Mouse, Beetlejuice, Sam & Max, Cyberchase, and The Backyardigans really held up so well.

>>150173414
like i remember as a 8 year old kid in 2003 finding anime like dragonball much more cooler because it tried to tell one giant story with stakes and had as the kids would call "hype and aura moments"

>>150173414
It turns out, ugliness doesn't sell. Go figure.

>>150162729 (OP)
Elbows up am I right fellow leafs?

>>150162729 (OP)
RIP Nelvana. I will always remember Eek & the Terrible Thunderlizards.

>>150163379
They did friggin' Babar?!

>>150173460
despite steven universe being a success.
it actually caused long term damage to western animation as a whole.
basically encouraged people to try uglier artstyles

>>150173453
what's the name of this show?
im trying so hard to remember

>>150173492
Ruby Gloom

>>150173453
I know they didn't do anything in forever but I guess this is it.

>>150171955
Yeah
He basically had the election in the bag and then fumbled it to a literal who.
And then instead of learning from the loss of his own seat, he stamped his feet and stole a seat from one of his own to stay relevant.
Its like face it man, you snatched loss from the jaws of victory. Just give up lol.

>>150162950
People will say politics, but realistically North American animation is way too kid centric and the projects that aren't movies tend to be low effort and low quality. It was pretty much doomed when anime became mainstream in the states and kids started to spend their time doing other things instead.

>>150173818
This time for Canada it literally is about politics. Canada is literally killing itself to try and prove some stupid points with being politically correct while everyone here cheers on the sinking ship. It feels like post WW2 Germany with how depressed, poor and mentally unstable everyone is.

>>150162729 (OP)
Sad, and unfortunately, I don't think Canadian animation has had much significant influence in over the past 15 years. A lot of the memorable Canadian shows were produced from 20 years ago.

F
I watched Rock and Rule in honor of them and it mogs Disney's entire 80s output

>>150173865
I'm canadian and I don't get they vibe at all but then I live in the sticks (which is most of canada)
I feel sorry for the city slickers.

>>150173492
>despite steven universe being a success
Idk man. I think it was just prominent on the creepy parts of the internet, like tumblr and 4chan. The toys tanked, so I think kids didn't actually care for it.

>>150173919
That probably helps. People feed off of each others emotions.

>>150173818
>North American animation is way too kid centric
fugget about it was supposed to save canadian animation....

>>150173923
>so I think kids didn't actually care for it.
it's true
most kids didint like it.
the audience was tumblr they/thems and nerdy leftist in general
and rebecca sugar knew it

>>150173930
>another fucking sitcom
Again, there's a reason anime became big stateside.

>>150174084
crash canyon was supposed to save canadian animation...

Only one man can save canadian animation.

>>150162729 (OP)
Is this when they peaked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcILZcHwuRU

>>150162729 (OP)
>>150162739
I know Canadian animation gets a bad reputation, but they put out interesting stuff when it wasn't banal kid slop made to fill out a government quota. That animated segment was the only good thing about the Holiday Special.

>>150166760
We're entirely dependent on subsidies
Private doesn't mean all the funding comes from the CEOs personal pocket
Just goes to show private companies are considered "Uncanadian" for lacking government stakes

>>150168692
>Boo hoo won't someone think of the rich boomers
This is you

>>150162729 (OP)
the world you grew up in

no

longer

exists

>>150170314
Shit like provinces are like kilometers. They make no fucking sense to a burger. If it weren't for Canada, that word would never enter our lexicon.
t.burger

Man that sucks. Guess I'll watch Rock & Rule this weekend in their honor.

>>150162729 (OP)
I blame Mysticons.

>>150174403
>Pre-9/11 America

Goddamn, it was a good time. We really were on a golden path....

>>150174403
>>150174508
The past is only there to bind you.

>>150174621
To what, better times? Without the past as a reference point we won't know how much and why everything is so shit now.

>>150174649
I'm not saying to ditch the past, just that staying there instead of pushing forward is bad.

>>150174508
the 2000s was a great decade honestly and the last great decade ever

>>150174143
based

>>150168172
what the fuck???

>>150168132
I don't care for the Liberals at all, but Conservatives make them look enlightened in comparison. On topic, Stephen Harper was the one that first started making significant cuts to Canadian cultural funds, and you'll notice the decrease in Canadian animation starting in the late 2000's/early 2010's. Always makes me laugh seeing so called Canadian patriots pining for a guy that sold out wheat board to the Saudis.

>>150175000
You say that, but the last successful Canadian cartoons (Total Drama and Paw Patrol) were produced under his government. 10 years of Trudeau brought us what, grunt work on Rick & Morty?

>>150162950
AI for one, and also animation is expensive.

>>150175019
Paw Patrol is a show for literal babies. Why are you comparing that to the classics of Canadian animation?
>B-But Trudeau
Trudeau was a milquetoast do-nothing who's career highlight was a speech against American encroachment after a decade of sitting on his ass. That doesn't change that Harper was a whore for foreigners and was the one that started cutting cultural subsidies.

>>150162729 (OP)
false alarm co

>>150175528
Sounds like they are trying to save face to sell off their stocks first.

>>150175528
God is not dead, HE'S ALIVE.

>>150162729 (OP)
What's gonna happen to Rolie Polie Olie on Disney+? Disney still has the U.S. rights to it after 27 years. Nick also still has Little Bear even after 30 years

Yes, I like watching it on there.

>>150175216
You either make commercially successful animation or critically successful animation. Which notable Canadian cartoons have been made since 2015?

>That doesn't change that Harper was a whore for foreigners

You act as though that isn't a uniparty belief.

>>150162729 (OP)
Does anyone remember when Rolie Polie Olie first came out how Disney Channel did a behind the scenes on that show showing how Nelvana and William Joyce did that show?

>>150162950
Animation takes effort, but this is the era of giving up and accepting your fate.

>>150173919
Never understood why rural guys act tough but deathly fear the city side. It's not that bad in the city, not everywhere is Young St

>>150162729 (OP)
I’ll always remember Nelvana for Little Bear.

>>150175528
Is being an IP farm that much better?
Considering what Nelvana has to offer, they're gonna need to sell a lot of merch

>>150176921
You act like they were making anything noteworthy. Flaming homo pony cartoons aren't paying the bills. >>150167756

>>150176942
I'm saying the opposite
What on earth of value do they have to license out? Just die already before we see a bunch of Dog & Pony T-shirts shelf-warming Hot Topic

>>150171907
>Being patriotic means standing by every retarded decision your government makes
Shut up, faggot.

>>150162729 (OP)
I am going to miss them, /co/bros...

>>150162950
Because clueless millennials think they can still get handouts to make comfy little bear shows. Cold hard merch-shifters like Paw Patrol are the only things that can survive the death of TV

>>150162950
We never know why western animation dying off this hard?

>>150177667
I'm calling people like you hypocrites because it's what you are. Sorry if that hurts.

>>150174143
Too based for the leafs

>>150175528
>I'm just resting my eyes for a bit bro

>>150175188
There is no usable AI tool in the animation industry yet.

>>150162950
>>150180102
Jews.

>>150176942
They could at least stand to actually promote and merchandise their works. God damn, you'd be lucky if a show you watched got a pity DVD release of a handful of episodes

>>150180435
>>>/pol/

>>150169416
Now I'm sad.

>>150162847
yeah...

>>150162729 (OP)

I searched for the productions that most likely going to be cancelled.
This one got my attention, it was called Dreamweavers

>>150174465
Province = State
Yeah there are some differences in administration, but on a functional day to day level, it's just a different word for the same thing.

>>150162729 (OP)
Apparently its still operative but put a pause on lots of projects. Which still doesn’t paint a pretty picture.

>>150174476
Me myself, gonna draw some Cindy.

>>150180943
Perhaps you can give an answer yourself?

>>150183759
*crickets*

>>150180435
>>150183759
>>150184436
You wish it was Jews. Jews actually contribute to culture.
What happened was yuppies with MBAs took over who only care making money and taking

>>150182975
looks kino, wonder if it will get picked by DHX Studios.
Also it was announced a while back in 2021, and looking it now, it is more probably that it could have got scrapped.

>>150183224

"Pause" = Cancelled.

Pause is corporate legerdemain to make the situation seem more optimistic than it is to save face.

Corporate PR ALWAYS tries to make the situation sound rosier than it is. Don't fall for it. Listen to the people who worked there or have connections.

>>150171750
you first tourist