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Anonymous No.150174568 >>150174599 >>150174749 >>150174761 >>150175020 >>150175616 >>150175767 >>150175775 >>150175842 >>150176080 >>150176506 >>150177609 >>150177882 >>150178251
>oversees the slaughter and imprisonment of millions
>nah dude I’m actually just a chill tea drinker yo- Zuko come play mahjong with me
Anonymous No.150174599 >>150176909
>>150174568 (OP)
>oversees the slaughter and imprisonment of millions
and he realizes the error of his ways

>nah dude I’m actually just a chill tea drinker yo
he deliberately chose to be this way as a result of his overall change of heart
Anonymous No.150174749
>>150174568 (OP)
Iroh is the only one of the fire nation royals to face grief and come to realize their entire system and the war it raged that he was brought up his entire life being told was some glorious honorable thing was just death and destruction on a colossal scale. He is the only one to recognize that an not just leave, but actually full on side with the forces trying to stop his nations genocidal conquest
Anonymous No.150174761 >>150174915 >>150174932 >>150175438 >>150176195 >>150176361 >>150177945 >>150178054 >>150178073 >>150178261
>>150174568 (OP)
>oversees the slaughter and imprisonment of millions
Justified.
>hugs a paralyzed girl when she can't resist
Disgusting. Cancel him and shit on his legacy.
Anonymous No.150174884 >>150174937 >>150175737
He saw where that route ends, including his son, and doesn't want Zuko to repeat it
But yeah he's a war criminal WAR CRIMINAL WAR CRIMINAL WAR CRIMINAL
Anonymous No.150174915
>>150174761
This looks dumb
Anonymous No.150174932
>>150174761
Feels grossly out of character for her to seriously care, since she can handle herself well.
Anonymous No.150174937
>>150174884
>But yeah he's a war criminal
what he actually did during the war is never specified outside of being its greatest general

but even then, having him be a war criminal in his past only makes his arc towards what he is in the present stronger
because it shows how he was still able to pull himself out even when he was that deep into it and makes his eventual turn towards peace even more noteworthy
Anonymous No.150175020 >>150176675
>>150174568 (OP)
They say multiple times in the show he saw the errors of his ways and changed once his only son died in the siege he was in charge of
Anonymous No.150175369 >>150175426 >>150175619 >>150175876
https://youtu.be/Z9ybRu61t2k?si=vw-YtD_7i8NAJ_La
>FUCK YEAH I’M GONNA CONQUER BA SING SE AND BURN IT TO THE GROUND
>What’s that? My son Lu Ten died as a soldier in the war that we’ve been having for a hundred years?
>OH NONONONONONO NOT MY HECKIN SONERINO I PILLAGE NATIONS BUT I DRAW THE LINE AT THIS
>I RENOUNCE MY RIGHT TO BE FIRST IN LINE TO THE THRONE OF FIRE LORD YOU CAN HAVE IT OZAI I DON’T EVEN FUCKING CARE ANYMORE
>I’m just gonna go fucking…drink some tea and join the white lotus. I’ll still stick around tho
>Yeah just forget that I was a war criminal
Anonymous No.150175426 >>150175460 >>150175876
>>150175369
Sounds pretty accurate desu. I met this racist chick who genuinely did not see blacks as humans. Then only time I saw her treat one as a person was when she could relate with one of them when it came to having a miscarriage. And even then she still doesn’t see black people as people but just saw that one specific person and their family as an exception lmfao
Anonymous No.150175438
>>150174761
what a piece of shit comic
Anonymous No.150175460
>>150175426
that's nice and all sunshine but iroh isn't racist and never was
Anonymous No.150175616
>>150174568 (OP)
Yeah, that’s call growth
Anonymous No.150175619 >>150175637
>>150175369
>My son Lu Ten died as a soldier in the war that we’ve been having for a hundred years
Its almost like personal tragedy caused him to empathize with every single person who has had to suffer that same pain he felt
Every one who died fighting or defending that wall was someone elses lu ten
Its easy to disconnect yourself from your job when its all so distant, but when it actually affects your life your outlook might change

He then took a long, personal journey of self reflection to sort out what all that means, which is why he no longer the same conquering General he used to be
Anonymous No.150175637 >>150175647
>>150175619
You’re trying to make a coherent against against someone who just posted a wall of green, half of which is capslock
Anonymous No.150175647
>>150175637
>a coherent against against
argument against*
Anonymous No.150175737 >>150175769
>>150174884
> war criminal
No such thing.
You can’t be committing any “war crime” if there is no such thing as a Geneva Convention that labels things as such, so all he did was commit acts of war, which would apply to the other sides as well.
Anonymous No.150175767
>>150174568 (OP)
Being chill and being able to justify systematic slaughter aren't contradictory.
Anonymous No.150175769 >>150175924 >>150176153
>>150175737
Aight, how about “unnecessary actions during a war”
Anonymous No.150175775
>>150174568 (OP)
In today's episode, anonymous learns about war
Anonymous No.150175842 >>150177898 >>150178082 >>150178191
>>150174568 (OP)
>Can't even assist the Avatar in taking down Ozai and stopping a genocide because history would look at it as one more example of a sibling fighting another for power
>Zuko violently overthrowing Azula to take the throne is totally ok though
Anonymous No.150175876
>>150175369
>>What’s that? My son Lu Ten died as a soldier in the war that we’ve been having for a hundred years?
>>OH NONONONONONO NOT MY HECKIN SONERINO I PILLAGE NATIONS BUT I DRAW THE LINE AT THIS
Anon you'd be surprise how many people operate like this irl. They're fine with everything, follow orders, even support it, until it harms them or something they like
>>150175426
I didn't wanna being politics into it but this is extremely apparent among people on the far right, yeah. They're seemingly incapable of really understanding others unless it's someone directly associated to them or a really specific issue that they care about.
I think one example is how people I met on the right will laugh at so many issues and turmoil and consider them as meaningless shit people only pretend to like, and then talk about circumcision(which IS bad, don't put words in my mouth) being one real important issue that people need to take seriously. A good example is Hans Kristian Grabtoss. Every racial and political issue is to be laughed at and in fact should be worse, libtards should stop crying, but circumcision is a serious issue because it's something directly personally connected to him.
Anonymous No.150175904 >>150175912
Asian culture have no concepts of what a war crime is as all war is already a crime against your fellow man.
Anonymous No.150175912
>>150175904
I thought they just saw it as competition over who has God's/Heaven's favor
Anonymous No.150175924
>>150175769
>Aight, how about “unnecessary actions during a war”

People today genuinely think that if something evil or cruel happened in the past, everyone was okay with it as long as it wasn't written as law.
Anonymous No.150175971 >>150176096
It's funny how there's a lot of people here that genuinely believe that making some improvement in your beliefs is some kind of intrinsic "betrayal" of your character.
Anonymous No.150176080
>>150174568 (OP)
>slaughter and imprisonment of millions
When, precisely, do they say that his kill count was in the millions?
I can see hundreds or thousands. But MILLIONS?
The Avatar Earth doesn't even have a high population to begin with. It seems like there might only be a million or two, worldwide.
Anonymous No.150176096 >>150176136 >>150177683 >>150178094
>>150175971
He never said that
Anonymous No.150176136
>>150176096
Anon absolutely said that
Anonymous No.150176153
>>150175769
>unnecessary actions during a war
What if I danced?
I grabbed an empty RPG tube and did a little shimmy.
Not at all required for mission completion.
Anonymous No.150176195 >>150178132
>>150174761
Literally what is he even apologizing for?
Anonymous No.150176361 >>150176503
>>150174761
Was there something that prompted this or did it just happen out of the blue? Because neither situation makes sense. The former because she would not give a shit about something like that and the latter because why the fuck would Iroh just be thinking about that when no one brought it up or mentioned it?
Anonymous No.150176503 >>150177848
>>150176361
I'm assuming the entire story was built around this one gag from one episode. I am not sure and I simply just flipped through this comic at a book store and yeah it seemed like they focused on that gag as a serious issue
Anonymous No.150176506 >>150177749
>>150174568 (OP)
This is just a faggot from leddit reposting his bait that got btfo by other ledditers KEK
>https://www.reddit.com/r/ATLA/comments/1n6fywi/iroh_is_a_hypocrite/
Anonymous No.150176675 >>150176766
>>150175020
M8 He was teaching Zuko how to properly kill and subdue his enemies with fire bending in the very first episode
Anonymous No.150176766
>>150176675
>teaching bending techniques automatically means teaching zuko to kill
He is peaceful but not a total pacifist
And did you also forget all the times where he is clearly imploring zuko not to engage in violence?
Anonymous No.150176909 >>150176953 >>150177672 >>150177821 >>150178245
>>150174599
>and he realizes the error of his ways
Does he? He never actually pays for them
Anonymous No.150176953
>>150176909
>Does he?
His dream in life turns from conquest to living a peaceful life selling tea
He also joins a pan-national society thats united in bringing down the fire nation
Anonymous No.150176966
Anonymous No.150177609
>>150174568 (OP)
there's mahjong in avatar? maybe ill finally sit down and watch it
Anonymous No.150177672
>>150176909
he frees ba sing se and contributes to the Avatar being able to save the world unless you mean some sort of punishment in which case I wonder what this weird old testament sentiment of characters needing to be drawn and quartered to "repent"
Anonymous No.150177683 >>150178127
>>150176096
Muscle Man has very strung opinions on Avatar and character writing
Anonymous No.150177749 >>150177796
>>150176506
My favorite revelation is, after years of seeing people shit on reddit, finding out that half of 4chan is just people doing commentary on whatever the fuck is being talked about on reddit
There's a reason why reddit is brought up so much here
Anonymous No.150177796 >>150177851
>>150177749
the same thing happens with tumblr, which is especially hilarious in the case of atla /co/ threads where anons cant shut up about the zutara tumblrinas. the truth is /co/ (and 4chan in general) has a lot of tourists who just didn't fit in whatever shithole their from, who then larp as oldfags here
Anonymous No.150177821
>>150176909
He's part of the White Lotus and helped take down the Fire Nation capital right during the Sozin's Comet, I say that's enough repentance
Anonymous No.150177848 >>150177939 >>150177954
>>150176503
This feels like one of those things not done out of some deranged sense of “social justice” but an attempt to sanitize the character from any potential controversy. Which is ironic since this is a thread about calling out his war crimes.
Anonymous No.150177851
>>150177796
I think it's also most apparent with twitter screenshot threads, especially the ones with like 1 favorite and 2 comments
Anonymous No.150177875 >>150177945
Actually showing Iroh going from war general to grieving father would require a level of nuance that none of avatars current writers possess. I dread for the day Bryke decides to explore Iroh's past in a comic or book or whatever
Anonymous No.150177882
>>150174568 (OP)
>oversees the slaughter and imprisonment of millions
>nah dude I’m actually just a chill tea drinker yo
Most realistic depiction of an Asian man to date.
Anonymous No.150177898
>>150175842
Azula was hot, she had all the right to rule.
Anonymous No.150177939
>>150177848
Most of the shit I see people complain about is usually just so corporate attempt to be as safe as possible rather than anything earnest from an author's heart
Not that the latter is always justified in every moment, but to me it's just corporate castration most of the time
Anonymous No.150177945 >>150177978
>>150177875
>I dread for the day Bryke decides to explore Iroh's past in a comic or book or whatever
see >>150174761
they already shat that bed
Anonymous No.150177954 >>150177976 >>150178001
>>150177848
The comics were written to farm outrage. Everyone talks about zuko being a cuck or whatever, no one gives a shit about the societal upheaval ones.
Anonymous No.150177976
>>150177954
there is no post atla material in ba sing se
Anonymous No.150177978 >>150177991
>>150177945
I don't think they wrote that
Though they do give the mark of approval to anything published
Anonymous No.150177991 >>150178010
>>150177978
Tim hendrick, an atla staff writter, co wrote it with faith erin hicks aka the newest Bryke fall guy writer
Anonymous No.150178001 >>150178031
>>150177954
tbf /co/ cares a lot about the dumbest shit that most other people have no focus on, but I also don't wanna read any of these after the first the Promise comic, so I'm not gonna make up my own thoughts either
The best AtLA sequel is the fanfic in my head anyway
Anonymous No.150178010
>>150177991
Never forget that tim once said iroh was his favorite because he was fat like him, only to come up with that garbage. you will never be able to convince me that anyone who isn't one of brykes pets isn't in a never ending humiliation ritual
Anonymous No.150178031 >>150178091 >>150178139
>>150178001
Speaking of fanfic, would anyone care to give a read for a fic i've been doing on AO3? to keep it short, it's the atla equivalent of the karate kid
Anonymous No.150178054
>>150174761
Based. All men should apologize for their toxicity
Anonymous No.150178073
>>150174761
He talks like he raped her while she looks like she's having a trauma flashback.
Honestly he probably should have.
Anonymous No.150178082
>>150175842
or a son overthrowing his father after being publicly shamed and joining the enemy.
it's all very stupid the more you look at it.
Anonymous No.150178091 >>150178112 >>150178139
>>150178031
I have one that I did that’s about a guy from the AtLA version of Europe coming over to learn chi blocking and take back his homeland. He is a nonbender but similar to the avatar in that he can draw power from the spirits of his ancestors.
Anonymous No.150178094
>>150176096
shut up rigby
Anonymous No.150178112 >>150178137
>>150178091
i'll give you an honest review for one in kind, as that does sound interesting. Mine is "Agni Kai" on AO3
Anonymous No.150178127
>>150177683
>strung
Everyone ignore this mistake or I will kill your mothers
Anonymous No.150178132 >>150178150
>>150176195
being a dirty old man
Anonymous No.150178137 >>150178173
>>150178112
It’s not an actual fan fic just an idea that I have that I have developed. Nothing on paper. But I will read that brb.
Anonymous No.150178139 >>150178156 >>150178160 >>150178165
>>150178031
No but I'll tell basing it on a martial arts movie is already a step in the right direction
>>150178091
>AtLA version of Europe
I won't say anything but what I think of that idea
Anonymous No.150178150 >>150178191
>>150178132
That is his most based quality though
Anonymous No.150178156 >>150178254
>>150178139
What do you think of it? Also can you like the fan fic I’m having an issue finding the exact one.
Anonymous No.150178160
>>150178139
>but
about
I'm multitasking
Anonymous No.150178165
>>150178139
>basing it on a martial arts movie is already a step in the right direction
Thanks Anon
Anonymous No.150178173
>>150178137
Appreciate it, and let me know whenever you do put pen to paper on that idea
Anonymous No.150178191
>>150175842
context matters
>>150178150
yeh based or not its not looked on kindly
Anonymous No.150178245
>>150176909
>I don't need answers, I need attention
Go neck yourself
Anonymous No.150178251
>>150174568 (OP)
When did this board start believing mudbloods were humans?
Anonymous No.150178254
>>150178156
not sure if you meant me but lookup flamegame on ao3 and it will popup
Anonymous No.150178261 >>150178302
>>150174761
Why are these comics so vaginal
Anonymous No.150178302
>>150178261
>Femoid writer
>cucked editorial
Take a guess