Thread 150177883

What film/comic had the best deconstruction of the idea of the superheroes in the real world?

None of them. Each are written by hacks who can't stand people enjoying things so have to make it 'gritty. real. edgy' or some other grim derp nonsense

Spinnerette. Not a competition.

Kick ass seem to have more fun with it's premise so I say them
>>150177903
First time I have seen someone describe kick ass as Grim Dark

Finally.. characters he can defeat.

>>150177917
>First time I have seen someone describe kick ass as Grim Dark
Grim derp is not Grim Dark.

>>150177917
Well, since OP said the comic is allowed

>>150178003
CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWLING IN MY CRAWL...

>>150177883 (OP)
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>>150178087
>rick and morty shit

Incredibles
>but
unironically, no further questions

>>150178105
upvote

>>150178116
That seems to play the tropes straight rather than deconstruct them though.

>>150177883 (OP)
Unbreakable.

>>150177883 (OP)
I would say watchmen, but even minus Manhattan, Ozymandias' super-science is fairly exotic

>>150178534
There would be no super-science without Manhattan.

Samurai Flamenco, cause all western capeshit is trash, even the subversive trash.
>rip manglobe

>>150177883 (OP)
Capeshit is so shit even the stuff making fun of it is shit

>>150177883 (OP)
No one ever talks about James Gunn's Super and it pisses me off because it's fucking great. I wouldn't sell it as a superhero deconstruction but I love it as an unconventional anti-hero movie and a character study into the mind of a genuinely disturbed but morally driven individual. I love how the tone evolves throughout the film, how silly the character's choices are but the real weight and cost those choices end up having. I love how morally grey the ending is. I love the score. Seriously, Super is the most SOVLFUL thing James Gunn has ever made. If anyone reading this hasn't seen it and might be interested, give the movie a shot. It's a weird, unconventional movie with strange choices but you can feel the passion that went into it.

>>150177883 (OP)
Super had Kevin Bacon and stayed grounded. Kickass ends with him flying using a jet pack that magically disappears for the second movie. I feel like Super is the better written movie but the more fun ride is Kickass.

either Birdman or Mystery Men.

>>150180003
But Birdman is not even about superheroes?

>>150180243
OP didn't ask for a movie about superheroes, he asked for movies that deconstruct the idea of superheroes. Birdman does that brilliantly.

>>150180296
Kinda birdman deconstructed the industry more. Not saying that’s bad I love the movie but it wasn’t about superhero’s themselves.

>>150179908
Pulling it up right now

>>150177883 (OP)
Superheroes?

>>150178015
wait until you find out about IRL child murder

>>150177883 (OP)
Personally I find Super more fun

>>150177883 (OP)
Super is a more realistic take than Kick-Ass, but both were fun.

I know kept telling myself I'd watch Special, because I liked the trailer, but I felt like it gave away the entire plot, so I didn't bother. Although it's probably not really a deconstruction of the superhero genre either.

>>150177917
I agree. Kick Ass was gay faggy

>>150181616
Yes, heroes that are super.

>>150177883 (OP)
Kick-Ass was like the edgy blog of some lame superhero fanboy
Super was more finding a random crazy persons manifesto

>>150181631
What kind of 'comeback' is this

>>150178130
deconstructive elements does naughta deconstruction make

>that gorgeous animated opening by PUNY
>the car-touching scene
>Linda Cardellini
Most I'd ever seen of Super were those cartoon YT shorts I watched out of context a decade back, but I'm already in love with this source material. I hate that James Gunn always delivers, I don't like adding to that dude's ego but he don't miss

>>150180930
I know I'm late to respond but I really hope you enjoyed it, friend.

>>150177883 (OP)
It's hard to think about this as an example of this phenomena these days, but it's Spider-Man.

In an era where superheros were either nigh-immortal like Superman, uber-rich like Batman, or just didn't address money for the most part like the Flash, Peter Parker was different in that he actually had to regularly worry about his human responsibilities like rent, food, school, and taking care of his aunt.

You can tell it was a successful subversion given how pretty much every comic followed suit since then.

>>150177883 (OP)
The movie yes

>>150180003
GUS SE T "Estab

>>150180003
>Mystery Men
never heard of it

>>150183608
It should be required viewing before starting Gunn's DCU.

>>150177883 (OP)
Supreme Power

>>150177883 (OP)
No one talks about this and its better than both

>>150190706
Eh, it's really not

>>150177883 (OP)
>You just need to be bored sometimes... That's what happens in between the panels.

>Nobody's ever ready for anything. You either just do it, or you don't.

>>150177883 (OP)
>Don Quixote
>Again

>>150177883 (OP)
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who saw this.

>>150177883 (OP)
i don't care about "deconstructing" superheroes because that shit is stupider and lamer than just going a played-straight superhero movie, but
>kick-ass
i enjoyed it. it was fun, kick-ass's extreme endurance was about the closest the film got to a real superpower and damn if it didn't make for an entertaining one. nic cage and hit girl making for a schizo father/daughter killing team was destined to be the good shit. it also had that guy that vaas killed on the cover of far cry 3, who i only remember because vaas killed him for the cover of far cry 3.
>super
annoyed the shit out of me. i fucking hate james gunn movies because his sense of humor in anything that isn't PG-13 boils down to "what if guy walked off screen and then walked back on screen and mutilated a man in front of his wife or child or both at the same time" and i don't want to fuck ellen page, and although her character is similar to hit girl's in the sense that they're violent children, the jokes really didn't work. especially the one where she either raped or tried to rape that guy who i always get mixed up with bill hader. seriously, gunn's humor is equivalent to beavis and butthead. not the show, but the characters. i would spit on this movie if it were a person

>>150180003
I can't believe all that shit really happened in the movie. Fantastic stuff

>>150191713
>that headlining cast
You probably are...

>>150190563
Mmm... Cannoli...

>>150186294
>that hand behind the broad
Gunn out on the prowl...

>>150179139
Stfu tranny

>>150179139
>>150179231
Samefagging tranny

>>150190563
This page is nothing special.

>>150177883 (OP)
I kinda think we were reading comics right about now.

>>150186294
milk.

>>150196149
it is if you read the story, but lemme guess "muh s-supershit"

>>150179908
>might be interested, give the movie a shot.
I might
You give a hell of a sales pitch.

>>150178087
I don't think ANYONE watched this...

>>150189092
kino opener, I never skipped

>>150186294
>PUNY

>>150186294
https://youtu.be/w_iwVg9zf0E

>>150198892
It's a retread of a sequence from Miracleman.

>>150183823
shutup

Super is where Gunn peaked and he hasn't made a better film since

>>150179908
>get sold by this
>first minute of the movie includes a mean dad, kids being pissed on, and a cuck scene
Glad to see Gunn has never changed.

>>150177919
In my times, homolander would be hyped up as a very strong character, when people didn't went full retard and made scrimblo the bimblo, and scaling man higher dimensional platonic beast (don't ask for showings, pls).

>>150177883 (OP)
>male-on-female rape is serious business and should be treated with the utmost level of sensitivity

>but female-on-male rape is Comedy GOLD

Fuck's wrong with this man

>>150177883 (OP)
Watchmen, the original 12-issue maxiseries, did it best overall.

>>150203989
lol nope

>>150203907
Go look up the reason he was briefly fired by Disney

>>150177883 (OP)
I remeber enjoying this, even though it felt like a really long youtube skit at times

>>150205508
That's a very red jacket

>>150204466
Elaborate.

>>150202303
It's so beautiful

>>150179908
It's also the film of his with the least amount of quips

>>150205337
>oh no a troma alumni saying vile things on twitter.
>the guy that made an interracial incest comedy
>the guy that had scrappy doo piss on Daphne and Velma
Go fuck yourself, you're on fucking 4chan.

>>150203907
He thinks male on female rape is comedy gold if the female is underaged

>>150186294
for me its the librarian

>>150206864
Boltie was supposed to be underage?

>>150206824
>interracial incest
How does that work?

>>150203303
Truth.

>>150177883 (OP)
>>150179908
>YOU DON'T BUTT IN LINE
>YOU DON'T SELL DRUGS
>YOU DON'T MOLEST LITTLE CHILDREN
>YOU DON'T PROFIT OFF THE SUFFERING OF OTHERS
>THE RULES WERE WRITTEN A LONG TIME AGO. THEY DON'T CHANGE!

>>150177883 (OP)
Irredeemable

But it would probably not get the positive attention because people would just see it as "another superman but evil".

>>150179908
The proud cuck ending was hilarious in an unintended way. Gunn is coping with the fact he’ll never have kids of his own.