Thread 150178962

Nobody wanted to see my movie... *sniff*

Get fucked gay boi

one day audiences won't be so homophobic and your time will come

>>150178962 (OP)
I burped

>>150178962 (OP)
Don’t be a little faggot then

>>150179835
/thread

Nothing in the remarkably limited advertising generated any kind of attention to be paid.

The premise wasn't enough, there needed to be more of a hook than just another fish out of water bluffing their way through a chaotic scenario. Especially when you did the most literal example of that 4 years prior.

I feel like the problem with animated films for a long time now has been the lack of a clear, direct, undeniable antagonist that isn't just the consequences of the characters actions or misunderstood.

Shit, when's the last time we had an unambiguous bad guy?

>>150178962 (OP)
He didn't deserve the flop, nudisney is haut evil

>>150178966
who???

>>150178962 (OP)
That's not true, it still made a couple hundred million and got pretty positive reviews from the people that did go and watch it. That's something I guess.

>>150178962 (OP)
Who gives a flying fuck? It's a massive downgrade from golden age Pixar, their newer films feel more like they're made for kids rather than being made for everyone, with their child protagonists and sappy lessons for children and shit. Maybe if I had higher expectations for Pixar I'd actually give it a shot.

Also fuck the beanmouth GrubHub style I'm glad this shitty film caused normies to turn against it.

My niece wanted a Hello Kitty toy from McDonald's and got a toy from this instead and became VIOLENT.

>>150180465
based

>>150180458
>It's a massive downgrade from golden age Pixar
How would you know if you've never watched it? I understand not wanting to pay for tickets or whatever but it released to digital like two weeks ago.

>a gay brown boy gets his eye poked out
>and there's aliens I think?
No one thinks this is appealing.

>>150180514
Don't care. Didn't watch. Still hate it.

>>150180554
Afraid you might like it if you watched it or what?

>>150180514
You see retard, there's something called wikipedia plots, I didn't really have expectations that high from NuPixar anyway.

next time if you want me to read your post you should use the insult at the end of it

>>150178962 (OP)
What's wrong with his eye?

>>150180633
"In Pixar’s Elio, the boy Elio Solís wears an eyepatch because he’s extremely sensitive to light in one eye."

>>150180633
he's a pirate

>>150180582
not that anon, but you're a retard. Nobody is going to like the same movie you like

>>150178962 (OP)
the pearly gates won't open for you.

>>150178962 (OP)
>OP who loves to watch Pixar movies since he was four
>and won't admit the damn thing can't make great things anymore

>>150180644
Oh. There's probably a medical procedure for that.

>>150180654
you're saying that as if we're talking about some incredibly niche film only 3 people in the entire world liked

>>150178962 (OP)
mega?

>>150180633
his groomer shot a load in there.

>>150178966
Rude

>>150182262
Monke in a grubhub commercial?

The eye patch/eye injury thing is so outwardly unappealing, I imagine even more so to children. What were they thinking?

>>150182553
It looks cute to me.

>>150178962 (OP)
Good.

>>150178966
But he would like that

>>150182262
>my ancestor

>>150178962 (OP)
garbage movie, literally chicken little with a mystery meat MC

>>150184283
Miguel from Coco, Hiro from Big Hero 6 and who's the other one?

>>150180458
>with their child protagonists
This is what interests me most of all. One of the biggest advantages of 2000s pixar was that it wasn't afraid to make the films about adults who weren't where they wanted to be in life.
Even Finding Nemo was mostly about a struggling single father. Ratatouille was about a greenhorn trying to make it before he really had the experience or resume. Like, all of them were about adults and the sides of ourselves we hide from kids because we want them to feel like everything is okay, making the movies as much for parents as they were for kids

>>150178962 (OP)
I was gonna watch it but they removed the belly scene. I don't support pro islam movies

>>150184435
>pro islam movies
Wtf?

>>150184461
If X makes you unable to show more skin, it's pro islamist

>>150178962 (OP)
You say that but you certainly have fans here who keep bumping your thread instead of just letting it die. So that's something. Keep your bean chin up, el ogro de las americas.

>>150184621
Don't laugh at my son

>>150178962 (OP)
how do you think we feel!?

>>150186111
Who draws these things?

>>150178962 (OP)
Boo hoo

>>150178962 (OP)
They couldn't find something interesting in a story about a kid going to space and meeting aliens

How come "nobody" watched Elio and the Smurfs but it was still quite talked about everywhere, while "nobody" watched The Bad Guys 2, it was actually good, and no one talked a about the Bad Guys?

>>150178962 (OP)
look on the bright side, more people watched your movie than they watched that awful new Smurfs movie

>>150184357
almost all of famous pixar films are about a metaphorical or literal father figure. Toy Story, Up, Monsters Inc,,
the modern good one, inside out, has a metaphorical mother figure because they figured out what girls are. it is a proven formula so the kid enjoys the pretty scenes and the parent relates to it because parenthood makes you a boring person who can only think of their offspring

this is why wreck it ralph 1 gave everyone pixar vibes, metaphorical dad metaphorical mid life crisis.

>>150188430
>this is why wreck it ralph 1 gave everyone Pixar vibes, metaphorical dad metaphorical mid life crisis.
That and "What if Videogame characters had feelings"/"Toy Story but with videogame characters," or how Ralph's character arc is about learning that being the bad guy of his game does not mean he is a bad person and he can be a positive influence to others instead of the typical "follow your dreams" Disney story.

I didn't even know the movie was being made until it showed up as an ad for the Sonic the hedgehog mobile game I was playing while waiting for my connecting flight.

Pixar started going downhill the moment they started focusing on purely human characters.

>>150178962 (OP)
Blame your shitty parents kid

>>150187928
>>150188191
I forgot about the Smurfs movie.

>>150189311
The only things I know about this movie is that Rhianna is Smurfette and that the original Smurfs movie was the highest grossing Sony Pictures Animation movie until Across the Spider-verse.

>>150178962 (OP)
It sounded boring. I first heard it, thought it was just about some kid and aliens. Sounded like ET but no heart because its for modern audiences made by people with no life experiences. Then I heard it was rewriten to remove so much gay stuff in it. So I'm like, yeah, no, that's not for regular straight normie like me. Some niche 1% of the poppulation would probably like it.

Pixar needs to be saved from nepo babies

>>150189733
What I find hilarious is that they removed the gay subtext and left the movie with pretty much no identity whatsoever. I don't think it would've been better if they'd kept it in, but at least it would've had more personality.

>>150178966
Would wanna see that :9

>>150178962 (OP)
I still literally have no idea what the premise of this movie is. Ay lmaos?

>>150186134
The illegal texan website that is Baraag

>>150184435
>they removed the belly scene
Really?

>>150189903
Yes
Boy gets abducted and alien waifus flirt with him

>>150184283
Sauce, nao!

>>150191379
Yessir

https://baraag.net/@Aluxxxtot

>>150185606
you know that this franchise is on the gutter when fans mourned the cancellation of a game that was going to be live service crap

>>150179866
>isn't just the consequences of the characters actions
No villain would ever exist

>>150178962 (OP)
You know your movie is ass when even the horny degens and shotacons don't give a fuck

>>150178962 (OP)
But why?

>>150178962 (OP)
Well isn't that sad.

>>150193286
Haha yeah that's me
I can easily nut to fishboy Luca but this is just shit

>>150190164
They did. It's hilarious because it's not like it caused a shit storm or anything but they still deleted it

>>150184306
It's a mystery. Only incredibly high IQ individuals can figure that one out.

>>150178966
He's like 12, you sick fuck!

>>150180633
its a black eye they just don't know how to animate shit

>>150178966
FPBP

>>150178962 (OP)
Don't care keep sucking

Needed an inflation scene

>>150195802
I can only assume they saw posts here

>>150184283
I've read a Katou Jun doujin that helps me guess how this will end.

>>150180644
>"In Pixar’s Elio, the boy Elio Solís wears an eyepatch because he’s extremely sensitive to light in one eye."
So wouldn't keeping it covered forever in the light make it even worse in the long run?

>>150178966
He's gay so chances are he already has been.

>>150180592
To be fair, reading a synopsis isn't the same as watching and experiencing the movie. Wikipedia doesn't give a scene by scene transcript or footage of the movie or play music from it for example.

>>150196337
Out of ten

>>150193246
What the hell are you talking about? I'm saying a movie can have a bad guy who's just a bad guy, and doesn't always have to be a concept or aspect of life antagonistic to the character like a lot of the more recent Pixar movies have had.

Onward - A ticking clock scenario with challenges

Soul - Guy died and was cheating the system to get a second chance at life, person who enforces the rules does his job

Luca - Fish Man Racism

Turning Red - Puberty and Generational Trauma

Lightyear - Almost but not quite because the enemy was fucking Buzz abusing time travel to an absurd degree and not just EVIL EMPEROR ZURG being an evil emperor.

Elemental - Racism again but this time they're literally fire and water.

Inside Out 2 - Puberty, AGAIN. THAT'S TOO MANY TIMES TO TREAD THAT SAME ROAD, PIXAR!

Elio - Alright so you have Lord Grigon, guy puts skulls in amber to show them off, absolute warlord status, denied entry into the big interplanetary government for being a goddamn warlord and... Because of Warrior Honor and fixing his relationship to his son, he's allowed into the space government...

Man come on, it would've been better if it was a bunch of peaceful aliens learning to defend themselves from the bad- Oh god I just wanted Space Seven Samurai, that's all I wanted. It would've been A Bug's Life again but it's a human giving a bunch of silly space alien politicians a spine.

>>150198084
>Luca - Fish Man Racism
bad example, that did have a antagonist (the weird italian guy who picked a fight with children for no reason)

>>150198084
>Inside Out 2 - Puberty, AGAIN
puberty was the starting point, the antagonist was Anxiety who was making Riley feel bad about herself. i'm just nitpicking though we do need more straight up villains

So, how many movies and series did Pixar stole... ehhm... I mean... got inspired from for Elio?

>>150187928
Because despite cope claiming the opposite, controversy does not equate to financial success or genuine engagement.

>never shows his bare feet

And that's why Turning Red was superior.

>>150200751
That's a weird way of spelling Luca.

>>150200751
i rewatched it recently, it captures this time of a girl's life so well but the messaging is really confused. Changing the panda's metaphor by the first 3rd of the movie from period -> girl power made the 'taking pictures and selling merch of the panda' part really weird. I like it a lot but it's kind of a mess in that regard.

I miss John Lasseter

>>150201267
This is my problem with Turning Red too.
And the panda metaphor gets even more confusing if you factor in the aunties and grandma.

>>150178962 (OP)
I wanted to see your original movie

>>150184283
I have a weird feeling that shota yaoi is somehow more popular with women than with gay men. Is there any truth to that or am I talking out of my ass?

>>150201294
How so?
>>150201351
i think you're right, but also there's more women than gay men. There are definitely both groups out there though

>>150201388
>How so?
The aunties and the grandma embrace their "pandas" in the finale and then decide to seal them off again.
This is symbolic for... what?!
Puberty? Menstruation? Womanhood? Sexuality? Identity?

>>150201313
I don't know why people seem to think that the original cut would've somehow been better than the final one. Every single change that we know about has been to the benefit of the movie and when it comes to the vague stuff like "oh maybe he was kind of alluded to as being gay in some way" I seriously doubt it would've made any significant difference.

>>150198522
I didn't feel like the bike race was the point of the movie so I didn't necessarily count him.

>>150179866
Little Jack Horner?

>>150178962 (OP)
I went to watch your movie and I likeed it.

>>150198084
Generational trauma and it’s just your mom telling you to not act like fucking retard in public.

To be fair to the little shit, no one seems to be going out and watching animated films at the moment.

>>150203022
why pay for tickets when you can wait a month or two and watch it at home

I don't like the design of Elio's eyepatch, and for some reason that's my main sticking point.
The color is too saturated, it fits too closely around his eye, and it doesn't have any external support besides a very thin band of adhesive on the edge.
I get why they designed it this way: it's colorful so it's not too medical or pirate-like, and it's just around the eye to let show expression, but it reads like an adhesive pad stuck directly to his eyelid, rather than the skin around it, which would be very uncomfortable.
It's also just about the most saturated thing in the frame, more prominent than his actual eye.

>>150178962 (OP)
I watched it. Woke up the next morning have completely forgotten I watched it, I only remembered because a friend mentioned it. I can't think of a single worse indictment against a movie than "not only do I not think about it, I don't remember it a day after watching it". Meanwhile I watched The Bad Guys 2 four times in August alone.

>>150178966
How do you think he turned queer in the first place?

>>150178962 (OP)
it was generic. all there is to it.
that weird pink fish alien girl was kind of attractive though

>>150190556
>and alien waifus flirt with him
You make the movie sound better than it actually is.

>>150203645
>kind of attractive

>>150204130
my bad. i meant to say she had me rock hard

Why does every youtube reviewer complain the movie wasn't gay enough? Do they really think doubling down on homosexuality would have made it successful?

>>150178962 (OP)
The budget for Elio was more than the box office haul and budget for The Bad Guys 2 combined. Not minus, combined. And yet visually it's one of the most mid looking movie Pixar has ever made. The visuals and premise did not click with audiences. It died at the box office with only $153 million while Bad Guys 2, which had a bungled world wide release and poor marketing, is on its way to $200 million on a budget less than a third of Elio's. If Elio had a budget of $70 mollion ot would have been a sleeper hit but it just did not have the broad appeal to be a tentpole.

>>150179043
oof
we passed the peak. Audiences are going to get A LOT more homophobic from here on out. There's going to be another holocaust.

>>150204230
I imagine people would not have taken it well since the only male character he can possibly, truly have any relation with is the literal eyeless worm alien.

>>150204230
name 5

>>150178962 (OP)
sorry latinx but all you get is deported

>>150184306
Is that not the subject of the thread?

>>150184435
Lol, I don't remember any outrage tho

>>150193286
Too bad no one watched it. We coulda had so much more lewds of him with his auntie.

>>150201598
I mean it looks a little different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w_K3CB8PuE

>>150196337
you think that stopped Luca or Miguel?

or Kubo?

>>150205138
>Elio and his aunt are in a military base
>Then this happens
Imagine a movie that starts with an annoying gay kid. You roll your eyes, the progs get a boner. The gay kid then meets an alien and reaches out to it. Only to be exploded on screen and have it's flaming screaming skull fly offscreen. Then the movie is about the invasion of Earth from the aliens' perspective. At first they're winning, then the humans start trying to communicate using battlefield recordings of the aliens and what they have analyzed of their language. To the aliens it sounds like the humans are mocking them at best. At worst they unnerve them because it sounds like the humans are trying to lure them in the open by replaying the cries of wounded aliens. Then as the weeks pass, human scientists manage to discover how to make the alien weapons fire. We mount them to our vehicles and for special antialien units. To us we have jurryrigged the best weapons we have for use against an invading force. To them we have dismembered their dead comrades and have mounted them on our warmachines. We are ghoulish.
As more of them die, the human arsenal increases. The aliens are forced to consolidate to a single force and establish a fortress. First they do it to hold out until reinforcements arrive. Then to buy time. The aliens realize that they have encountered a nightmare species that consumes and assimilates. They must destroy all their tech and databases to keep us from getting any stronger. Then the aliens receive some disasterous news. The humans managed to capture an alien transport.

>>150206048
cont.
The taskforce succeeds on it's mission, but it learns that in their absence, the humans stormed and captured the fortress. The taskforce is the last aliens alive on the planet. An alien makes a terrifying realization. If we have captured their databases then eventually we will have their homeworld's location. The taskforce leader rallies his troopers and he gives them an ominous speech. Then they go on a suicide mission to storm the captured fortress and destroy the databases. The humans narrowly stop them but a fatally wounded alien sets off an explosive device, completing his mission. This leaves only one lone alien alive somewhere on Earth. The movie ends with an alien scout receiving a desperate communication. "Do not come here! This is hell! Do not come here! This is hell! Do no-"
The scout decides to investigate, implying that the humans will be getting a second chance at acquiring the means for space travel.

>>150180633
About 10 minutes into the film Elio gets hit in the eye leaving it red and swollen, and he wears the eyepatch for the next like hour of the film.
It was kind of a poor decision really, they should've just had his eye be red and swollen for the next few scenes and then have his eye go back to normal again. The eyepatch is there for too much of the film's runtime, it's distracting.

>>150201939
Let's go over it and see if you're right.

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish drops Dec 2022 so let's look at American produced feature length films released in theaters since then.

Also Released in 2022: "Strange World" - Antagonist is mankind's general ignorance of their surroundings and the balance of nature" Turning Red - Antagonist is misunderstanding a magic superpower as a curse. "Minions: Rise of Gru" - Entire team of villains, The Vicious 6. (movie made back nearly 10x it's budget) "The Bad Guys" - Antagonist is secret reveal villain with a wacky but effective plan. "DC League of Super-pets" - A super powered, hyper intelligent guinea pig. "Lightyear" - The villain is stubbornness taken to an absurd degree

2023 you've got "Elemental" - Racism. "Paw Patrol Movie" - According to the summary sounds like it had actual supervillains. "Across the Spider-verse" - Joke Villain turned legit threat. "Super Mario Bros Movie" - Motherfuckin' Bowser with a surprisingly fantastic showing. "TMNT Mutant Mayhem" - Mutants Mayheming all over the place. "Trolls Band Together" - Using stolen magic to make yourself popular and famous... Pretty villain-y I guess. "Wish" - King Magnifico's a pretty classic sounding Disney Asshole... still didn't watch this movie though. And "Migration"- Pretty much everything that ever wanted to eat a duck down to one chef who kinda goes Elmer Fudd overboard about it.

>>150207516
2024 "The Day The Earth Blew Up" Twist Villain, guy's still kind of an asshole though. "Despicable Me 4" Cockroach Man, turns people into cockcroaches... Pretty damn evil but I don't remember even seeing him in the advertising of the movie (which also ended up almost making 10 times its budget these movies are crack to somebody) "The Garfield Movie" - Abandonment issues and a criminal cat. "Inside Out 2" I mean as much as anbody's sense of anxiety is an antagonist. "Kung Fu Panda 4" - Bad Writing and a magic lizard villain... But mostly Bad Writing. "Moana 2" - Unambiguously antagonistic deity. "Piece by Piece" - animated documentary. "Transformers One" Double Twist Villains (one obvious) pretty damn effective flick. "The Wild Robot" - Corporate Synergy armed with laser guns, not memorable but fairly villainous.

>>150205138
Is it just me or does the movie supports this shipping?

>>150203156
>Story about space, aliens and a kid with an eye patch
You know the real tragedy here is the wasted chance to make this movie about space pirates.

>>150178962 (OP)
The only thing that I'll remember about this movie is that it reminded me to try Ellio's pizza as an adult. It's not good pizza but holy shit is it nostalgic. It's exactly the way I remember it tasting and it's fuckin' cheap.

>>150178962 (OP)
I saw it.

>>150178962 (OP)
I saw it with my sister and nephew, it was alright

>>150200751
>>150201267
Turning Red is just a poor man's Teen Wolf.

You stand before the glorp machine, will you drink?

>>150196687
Speak English dork

>>150204230
it's very easy to imagine "what could've been" as being better than what something really is
basically wishful thinking

>>150204230
Because youtube reviewers are massive faggots.

>>150205143
>mom turned into aunt
Objectively better. If Olga were his mom the audience would've just seen her as a bad mom, while as an aunt her confusion is justified.
>Elio wants to get abducted instead of being afraid of it
More interesting of a premise.
>mentor figure turned into a "villain"
This one is more questionable without knowing the full context but in theory it's a good change too.

>>150180458
>Also fuck the beanmouth GrubHub style I'm glad this shitty film caused normies to turn against it.

>>150180458
Nobody in the real world cares about "beanmouth". This is only an outrage subject for terminally online people.

>>150210091
i love how japs/weebs are niggers for liberals

>>150210091
This cope is literally one that AI genners use. It doesn't even make sense because nobody is worried about beanmouth putting them out of a job because it's too powerful and they can't figure out how to copy it, they hate it because when the animation industry gets creatively stagnant it means less animation. It's not like Pixar did a survey and discovered that this is the direction people want them to go in, they went in that direction because the new hires all only know how to draw beanmouth because they never studied anatomy properly, and recent initiatives at Pixar were pushing "culturally authentic" autobiographical movies made by these people instead of blockbusters.

The aggravating thing about this trend is that Coco wasn't like this at all. It had the classic Pixar visual style and it was even a movie about an ethnic holiday that is obscure to people outside of Mexico and it managed to make it feel compelling and important to the viewer. And after that they switched to beanmouth becuase it's easier for the concept artists and storyboarders (the people who are basically steering the ship) to draw, because it's all they know.

I think after Elio Disney and Pixar are going to finally realize that the life stories of animators just aren't that interesting even if you try to add a high concept twist. If you want to tell the world the story of how you ended up at animation school, save it for your interview on the Blu-Ray special features. Their art looks like shit because they're all copying each other's homework instead of studying and learning from the masters. These people are competent enough to work in the industry but many of them need to be re-trained in some capacity, and they need to either poach some senior management from the competition or bring somebody out of retirement, because the current leadership pipeline is like a high school junior trying to teach the freshman class.

>>150178962 (OP)
Wall-E is better.

>>150210259
Exactly this!

>>150210091
>>150210178
You fags need to see the bigger picture, I'm basically repeating what I've said in another thread, but:

The beanmouth style represents how much executives fuck over projects and how little creative freedom they give to creators these days, tons of beanmouth characters had more unique designs in concept art, Elio, Wylde Pak, but they were beanmouthed in the final product cause executives see that shitty style as "appealing". It's just one big part of a bigger issue about how executive controlled animation is these days, slop like Stugo and Haileys On It are only made to cash in on the success of prior shows (beanmouth loreshit from the 2010's) by having premises similar to them. Funnily enough, it isn't working anymore, Elio has caused people to hate on beanmouth and no adults wanna willingly watch shit like Stugo or BCG cause of how oversanitized and babyish kids tv is these days.

Here's a character designers perspective on beanmouth that sheds a light on the issues with the style.

Also that Adam Ellis comic is retarded, just because regular people draw like shit don't mean big studios have to draw like shit too, they're supposed to present examples on how to make shit look appealing, duh.

>>150210259
Wait. That movie feels Wall-E?

>>150210909
F

>>150178962 (OP)
I went.

>>150213679
Did you come?

>>150214691
I came.

>>150215871
Heh.

>>150178962 (OP)
It was cute, even if it suffered the same problem as Brave of making you think it was going to be about adventure instead of sneaking around an ediface and parental issues.

>>150217438
Brave came out 14 years ago.

>>150178962 (OP)
I will not watch bean shit

>>150201267
>>150201294
Mei only likes herself and her panda form because she got external validation from her shitty classmates, it's a terrible message from a self-love perspective

>>150178966
Fpbp

>>150210235
I think the problem is variety. A story that cribs from personal experience that is intended to be relatable is probably fine if it gets sandwiched between stories with classic villains or whatever but if you keep turning out relatable story after relatable story people will get tired of it.

>>150178966
fpbp

Who's saging this thread?

>>150191762
Transformers itself is doing fine (Hasbro's fuckwittery notwithstanding), it's just because of how rarely a Transformers game comes out that people were getting excited. It being live-service definitely killed a lot of the hype though. Someone just needs to put up the cash and sort out the rights issues for High Moon games.

>>150180458
>feel more like they're made for kids r
That's all on Disney.
If Pixar was still independent or owned by Apple TV+, this wouldn't be happening.

>>150213679
Me too.

>>150178962 (OP)
Your film had awful character designs. The humans looked awful, a vast majority of the aliens looked like formless non-mammalian blobs, and the main villain (the only character with a semblance of good design) looked like a Cragmite if it were designed by Fisher-Price.

>>150204230
A lot of what I hear is that if they kept the sexual orientation stuff the film would be "better" in that it'd at least have an actual thematic identity.

>>150204977
Honestly if you're sticking with metaphor, human/alien is a pretty good option for a gay stand-in. Star Trek has done it.

>>150178966
fpbp

>>150210235
>new hires all only know how to draw beanmouth because they never studied anatomy properly
You're not getting an animation degree without anatomical studies.
>but the Richard Williams image macro!
The anecdote was about high schoolers and the examples are the personal projects of Fine Art majors rather than animation graduates. Beanmouth is everywhere because a few years ago there were several successful shows that used what could be, with a stretch, all lumped into "beanmouth" and production companies are both trend-chasing and behind the times and demand the animators use that particular style while also demanding it be streamlined and simplified as much as possible to cut costs.

>>150205138
The film should have used a parallel b-plot between Elio's aunt and the alien warlord dad tracking down their kids while arguing and coming to terms with their own issues and fears about their parenting.

>>150200563
Posts that make you say "gonk"