Thread 150194257

remember the time when Lisa became a fedora atheist?

>>150194257 (OP)
Lisa has always been skeptical. And skepticism is a healthy trait, no matter what hat you invoke. People fall for shit like angel bones in real life all the time, sometimes with dire consequences.

Rejecting Abrahamism is the first step.
Atheism can be a necessary step forward.
Embracing your people's ancestral deities comes next.

>>150194257 (OP)
yes,in the very first episode,back in 1989

>>150194257 (OP)
Isn't she a Buddhist?

>>150194292
you have to go back, Sandeep

S11E5

>>150194283
Got any examples?
Aside from cults and murder scams, which might not even be what you were actually talking about but are the only things I could think of.

Or general distrust of science and belief in crazy conspiracy theories, I suppose those might also be what you could be talking about. But I was under the impression that you meant specific localized events.

Or do you just mean publicity stunts that go wrong like the Aqua Teen Hunger Force bomb scandal?

reminder that she was right in the end

>>150194519
>I'll take any victory!
We know bottom feeder.
We know.

>Embracing your people's ancestral deities comes next.
After that comes being an absolute degenerate ragebaiting and gooning on 4chan with no regard for morality

>>150194292
You were making sense until your jeet nonsense.

Imagine if it turned out the Ancient Egyptian religion was the right one all along.

>>150194539
hell is full of christians

>>150194556
He was never making sense

>>150194627
Stfu atheist tranny

>>150194701
NTA but read the bible. We're all going to hell

>>150194734
Stop projecting

>>150194701
Atheists don't believe in Hell.

>>150194743
Why christians refuse to read the Bible? I'll never get it

>>150194556
Ah yes, worshiping ancestral EUROPEAN deities is 'jeet' nonsense. Best we all worship a jewish god from the Middle East.

>>150194827
lol Pajeets are like 85% of Internet LARPagans. they be like why you Europeans and MENAfags abandon your ancestral religions? while at the same time dickriding Jews because Israel kills a lot of Muslims.

>>150194772
But they go to it

Christian geeks don't resemble Jesus's disciples, they resemble the pharisees. They aren't about humillity and love but hypocrisy and acting holier than thou

All problems with Lisa start with the decision to make her a vegetarian.

>>150194827
How do you worship them and what do they offer you to believe in them? Are you worshipping solely because you want to be a contrarian totally not-Athiest that can shit on Christianity in a different flavor or do you actually believe some river god is directly responsible for a specific river running dry that season causing a bad harvest? Also keep in mind that the word "Pagan" is a blanket term for any polytheistic religion, so keep that in mind if you call yourself a word created by Christians.

Pic related explained it well

>>150194867
Are you just saying this because you saw my post, or did you actually read the post I was responding to in the first place?
Because if you actually read both, then you'd know that you didn't actually contribute anything.

>>150194896
Doesn't help that to be a proper christian you literally have to know Jesus personally
I honestly doubt that most christians have met Jesus in person

>>150194540
only christians lack morality. after all, they free child rapists like ghislaine maxwell while placing brown people in alligator infested concentration camps for mowing lawns

>>150195205
>meanwhile in India

>>150195068
You know exactly what he means, he's just another dime a dozen edgy contrarian who is too stupid to LARP about Gnosticism so he goes for "Paganism" instead because Odin and Thor is just like his capeshit movies or muh Rome badass aesthetic despite them having no actual faith in their deities at all bar the few priests permited to have passion in their veneration without being taboo.

>>150195205
You mean Dispensationalism? The entirety of Christendom outside of the US don't even consider that to be Christian kek

>>150195205
>Meanwhile in India, China, North Korea, Middle East and Africa

>>150195168
>Doesn't help that to be a proper christian you literally have to know Jesus personally
>I honestly doubt that most christians have met Jesus in person
It's called the Holy Spirit. Word of advice: actually research the doctrine you are trying to tear down.

>>150195205
>x group as a whole did y
Why are /pol/lacks like this, go back to your containment board retard

>>150195246
Because they are jeets who follow caste systems.

>>150194257 (OP)
given the context of the episode she was merely being rational. The simpsons wasn't a science fiction show.

>don't feel sorry for me, mom I feel sorry for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvfyGUfs2Ok

>>150195205
>while placing brown people in alligator infested concentration camps for mowing lawns
If only.

>>150194257 (OP)
The whole episode went out of its way to not make science or religion the enemy, but rather capitalism. Your buzzwords are as dumb as you. Faggot.

>>150194300
Lisa is only a Buddhist when convenient.

I'm a Japanese guy who actually goes to the local Buddhist temple on Sundays. I don't really like Hollywood hippies tying to educate the public on what Buddhism is.

I've never once heard Lisa say "Dharma, Sangha or Siddhartha Gautama."

>>150194292
Bro, your paganism is dead. Whatever you're far back ancestor believed wasn't what's recorded today. The language is gone, and the culture isn't there.
Your actual family religion is whatever your grandparents to your great x4 grandparents believed in.

>>150196282
Konichiwa, dude

>>150194257 (OP)
Is there any Western media with a fedora being shown as being completely right and sympathetic?

>>150194257 (OP)
>Not falling for an obviously fake "angel" skeleton makes you a fedora atheist
Only commercialized phony Christians would actually fall for that, since the idea of an angel skeleton being found on earth is pretty blasphemous in itself. The kind of Christians who haven't actually read or studied scripture and just regurgitate what others tell them. Flanders is supposed to be very well versed in the Bible but since his writers aren't his characterization is pretty inconsistent.

>>150196392
Wouldn't you still find Grigori and Nephilim bones in Christianity?

>>150196400
No. As far as we know no "Grigori" has perished and the Nephilim in terms of size is highly speculative or subjective. We know they were of great size but how that is in relation to the people of the time we don't actually know. So if there were bones it is possible that it wouldn't be giant by the modern sense and just abnormally tall for the period or "well developed" in stature. This is ignoring the fact wether there would be bones to find with the flood and if there was that many Nephilim to begin with.

>Embracing your people's ancestral deities comes next.
then why are you racist?

>>150196388
The Simpsons. There was an entire episode about Creationism vs Evolution and Lisa was painted as being in the right and sympathetic.

>>150194257 (OP)
>Lisa is shown to be thoughtful about religion in earlier seasons
>suddenly cant believe people think angels are real despite going to church with her family every Sunday
The real bullshit was Flanders thinking the remains were real.

it's funny how atheists don't believe religion or even spirituality are legit because they aren't 100% airtight but at the same time are apologetic about things they resonate with even if they don't make sense all the time.

>>150197110
What are they apologetic for

>>150197118
communism and the crimes against humanity committed in its name.

>>150194283
Lisa isn't skeptical of liberal propaganda

>>150194292
>Embracing your people's ancestral deities comes next.
I'm not interested in playing pretend with adults.

>>150194257 (OP)
>member the time?

>>150194507
the media shaping public opinion to further their own agenda.
companies lying through their teeth for their bottom line

>>150197128
or Buddhism
she just appropriated it because it was trendy and not Christianity
doubt she'd ever look past the veneer of "oriental spiritualism" and "enlightenment" and read what buddha has to say about women.

>>150196282
>Japanese Buddhist

you're as bad as Lisa you shinto-hating fuck

>>150194257 (OP)
remember how she was right and it was a transparent ploy to sell interest in the new mall they were building?

remember malls? apparently they were still building them 28 years ago when this episode came out

>>150197314
>NOOO YOU BUDDHIST FUCK HOW DARE YOU NOT WORSHIP CYCLOPIC SENTIENT UMBRELLAS THAT DIG INTO YOUR ASS TO STEAL YOUR SOUL LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS DID??

This episode had such a weird an mysterious vibe to it, don't even know how to really articulate it. Like it feels like a bullshit urban legend about a lost episode except it's real.

>>150197055
Season and number? I need to see this.

>>150197421
I get what you're saying.

>>150197421
The music, lighting, and pacing are weirdly eerie and it feels almost like a genuine hypothetical of "what if you found an angel's skeleton" like a Twilight Zone episode or something. At least until that ending.

>>150197537
The Monkey Suit, season 17 episode 21

>>150196392
> the idea of an angel skeleton being found on earth is pretty blasphemous in itself

EXACT, Angel are suppose to be pure spiritual beings.
Angels dont die, they dont eat, take a poop or pee.
>>150197085
i always saw flanders as your tipical evangelical Christian who reads the bible a lot but never actually thinks about it.
He does not interpret the text, he just reads it automatically and does not absorb the message, he leaves those parts to the pastor who he fervently follows as a false God.

>>150195205
not comics and cartoons

>>>/pol/

>>150194507
I mean you do have the plethora of bullshit claims made by "crusaders of the truth" all throughout the states. Various human remains and modern artifacts getting passed off as evidence of humanity's coexistence with dinosaurs, misrepresentations of actual sites and more. People are willing to give so much leeway when it conforms to their beliefs.

>>150197421
>>150197589
I'll add in regards to the lighting that a lot of the episode took place around sunset which made them pick a lot of reds and oranges for the backgrounds.

>>150194507
>Got any examples?
Peter Popoff was on my mind writing that comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Popoff

>>150194283
In early seasons she was religious and attended Sunday School. Remember the "Thou Shalt Not Steal!" outburst?

>>150197085
>>150197633
It's almost as if the show was written by Jews and Atheists or something.

>>150197314
>you're as bad as Lisa you shinto-hating fuck
You're a retard, Buddahism and Shintoism have co-existed for over a millennia in Japan and had strong compatibility also known as shinbutsu shugo.

>>150199213
Keep in mind, that they had to toe the line of seeing what they could get away with. While today Simpsons could be seen as very tame, back in 1990 it was cutting edge (same with Married with Children) in terms of pushing the boundaries of acceptable television programming. The idea of an 8 year old daughter not being a Buddhist wasn't explored until much later in Season 13 in 2001 when by then many barriers of tv censorship had been stripped down thanks in part to Simpsons, B&B, South Park ect.

>>150199213
Simpsons always was kind of preachy in general not only Lisa, Homer leaves the church, the tv cable episode you mentioned, Homer dancing with the belly dancer, which caused him problems at home, and how men are wrong for them having those jobs

>>150195068
>How do you worship the christian god and what does it offer you to believe in it?

>>150194257 (OP)
Not really exclusive to Lisa, Homer goes back and forth with going to church just to hold onto a minimal level of spirituality with the idea of god he seems to hold, to outright claim he doesn't really believe there is a god.

>>150194896
>>150199277
>co-existed for over a millennia in Japan
*Laughs in multiple government campains over the last millennia

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>>150202501
Why are you bumping so many threads off of page 10?

>>150194257 (OP)
Angels don't have bones.
Even relics of their feathers are suspect.

>>150195205
meds

>>150202520
Angels don't have a lot of things anon.

>>150203355
What do they have?