Thread 150198904

Why dont people make cartoons anymore?

You need to hire people to make cartoons

People do not have children.

Cheaper and easier to make live action slop.

>>150198904 (OP)
It's even worse than it looks. Networks like Nickelodeon are having cartoon makers split their seasons in two (labelling what would always have been one new season as 2) to artificially inflate these figures.
https://www.thewrap.com/paw-patrol-renewed-spinoff-rubble-and-crew-nickelodeon/

That said ... what are these ~300 animated series ordered by streaming networks in 2021-2022?

>>150198904 (OP)
Thank GOD they don't make cartoons anymore, i'm not forced to watch garbage quirky writing and jokes about social inequalities.

Good riddance faggots, i only want cartoons made in Uganda from now on.

>>150199000
Kys sharttroon

>>150199000
>i'm not forced to watch garbage quirky writing and jokes about social inequalities.
pfffttt

>>150199000
>he feels as if anyone is forcing him to watch shit he doesn't like
The absolute mental state of sharty schizos

>All new cartoons are shit
>Even YT zoomie shit
>Dude just make more
lol

>>150198904 (OP)
I thought it felt like a lean year for animation but this really brings in home. No wonder there’s so little discussion on /co/ recently, there’s no new fucking cartoons.

>>150199006
>>150199012
>>150199035
>4clitty mass seethe
Like clockwork.
One day you will be forced to walk outside the basement and finally hit the gym, there will be nothing to watch.

>>150198904 (OP)
It's too hard.

>>150198904 (OP)
Because big studios won't hire people to make them anymore

>>150198904 (OP)
Who the fuck cares?

>>150199238
I think I read recently that 40% of animation industry professionals are out of work this year?

>>150198904 (OP)
Studios don’t want to pay artists and artists don’t want to be responsible for their own financing

they flooded the market with a lot of shows that nearly all had mid receptions no matter how critically acclaimed it is or awards it wins they just aren't making enough to warrant the price of making beyond a 2 3 seasons run.

>>150198904 (OP)
Kids don't watch cartoons anymore. They're too obsessed with tic Tok, YouTube shorts, Roblox (rip), Minecraft, or other popular stuff. Cartoons aren't popular entertainment any more.

>>150198904 (OP)
>Why bother when you can just rerun old, better shows?
>Heavily entrenched, good luck trying to make new shit or even joining other studios
>Indies are all shit. Hell, most of them aren't even indies
>Money
The harsh truth is that the medium is slowly dying. In the future only the state will be able to produce cartoons, and 90% of them will be educational toddler shows or propaganda for teens

>>150198904 (OP)
You picked out the lesser scale.
Netflix is pushing out the majority of these, it's that other people (like Apple TV and WB/Disco on Max and elsewhere) that have really cut down/cut back, plus the loss of linear TV on cable. Less federal money to public STATIONS will mean less licensing fees to make some of the animated crap that fills channels like PBS Kids. A lot of that will be filled with and by re-runs, versus new stuffs - which also depresses 'series orders' - thus making this chart less accurate.

tl;dr There likely will be as much OTA/cable and, in many cases, streaming animation being SHOWN as say 2018, it just won't be NEW or ORIGINAL.

Honestly, we need fewer shows.
Fewer shows of higher quality in general, I'd rather have 20 great shows in a year than 3 great shows and 97 mediocre/bad shows.
Same issue I have with anime, I'd much rather have 200 shows a year with more shows made with an actual budget/caring team as opposed to 200 shows a season with 150 of them being made as cheap throwaway shit to advertise a manga/LN.
Unfortunately, I don't think we're getting that with this slump in cartoons, I think we're just getting less in general, but it still mostly sucks.

Source?

>>150199114
>can't even read
Yep, figures

Cartoon channels aren't allowed to make anything that'd appeal to kids anymore because it might make them violent or hyperactive or give them nightmares, and moms will complain online, so instead kids watch this.

>>150200105
>because it might make them violent or hyperactive or give them nightmares
>meanwhile premature exposure to youtube kids makes them worse
LMAO.

>>150198904 (OP)
They all got made already

Kids are watching streamers
streamers are their cartoons

>>150199487
You'll be lucky to have 3 shows a year period.

>>150198924
spbp

>>150198904 (OP)
Same reason why there's less AAA games being made and probably other media like movies and live action shows. It costs money and money is tight these days. The pandemic boost is long gone and companies are slimming down and there's some other stuff going on that you might have heard about making the economy pretty weird for a lot of companies.

>>150198904 (OP)

Seriously, where did this chart come from?

>>150200743
I'll never get tired of people who blame streamers for the death of cartoons. It's like
>We had $600,000 to entertain kids for 22 minutes and we lost to a guy with a webcam and a copy of Outlast

>>150198904 (OP)
>data for 2025 is H1 only
so it's not really changed from 2018 even though it increased during covid and cable is dying

nothing ever happens

>>150198904 (OP)
Animation is a luxury of a stable economy.

>>150199264
Isn't that too much?

>>150199264
I’m inclined to believe, but you got a source? I know people that moved out of LA or are working Panda Express to make ends meet.

>>150199332
>>Why bother when you can just rerun old, better shows?
Why don't they fucking do that ? They don't even do that.

>>150198904 (OP)
Anime is superior

>>150203298
Cartoon Network is all Gumball, Adventure Time, and Regular Show, and every iteration of Tom & Jerry and Scooby Doo in between. Disney doesn't need to do that because their current lineup is fine but they still rerun gravity falls. I'm watching Nickelodeon right now and it's playing the Lego movie, and next is the SpongeBob movie.

the animation market was killed by youtube slop and its coffin was nailed shut by streaming companies killing every adult cartoon after one season because it's not made by nepo baby nick kroll

>>150198904 (OP)
this was a billion dollar industry only a couple years ago. You'd think studios and execs would address the collapse publicly and speak directly to their audience, but they dont. Its like theyre hiding. Strange

>>150198904 (OP)
>>150199332
>tHe mEdIuM iS dYiNg
Anime seems to be doing fine. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to watch another episode of Panty and Stocking.

>>150203669
They've given up

>>150200105
>Cartoon channels aren't allowed to make anything that'd appeal to kids anymore because it might make them violent or hyperactive or give them nightmares
This is also kind of it.
And not just kids, but people outside of a specific bubble in general just aren't courted when it comes to American animation.
They've largely given up entire groups to other mediums and/or foreign animation, so now all they can do is rely on reboots and sequels.

>>150198904 (OP)
They're waiting for ai to get good enough.

>>150205502
So never

>>150198904 (OP)
>Why dont OP cite sources anymore?
I won't fix your shitty grammar and comprehension but ...

>>150199994
Source?
It's a legit article on THR but more focused on Apple TV+ cutting back from a high of 15 series ordered a year to much less:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/apple-tv-plus-quits-animation-1236360178/

>>150207051
Hmm, that's interesting.
I wonder how many more shows are in the pipeline for 2025 since we've only got another 3 months left in the year (which is insane to say out loud, it feels like this year fucking flew by).

>>150198904 (OP)
Streaming bubble popped. This graph is useless. Get one that goes back to at least 2010.

Trump recession.

>>150203350
>>>/a/