Thread 150211979

>make a gay version of a character after a lot of people joked about him being gay
>make his sexuality plot-relevant and thematically important without it being his sole character trait
>make him a complex and flawed but still likeable character

At the very least, it was better executed than what happened to Velma in the series of the same name.

>>150211979 (OP)
you are like 10 years late.

>>150211979 (OP)
Okay I can get why people thought Snagglepus was gay. But why QuickDraw and Huckleberry hound?

>>150211979 (OP)
Decent story but done in the lens of classic cartoon characters, so difficult to care about. I assume the contemporary reception was the same as it would be today, with people whining about it being "woke," how McCarthy was right to prosecute gay people since that's "cultural marxism," and reeing about how "they're RAPING my childhood!" as though anyone ever gave a shit about these poorly animated characters. The ending showing them transitioning from legitimate theatre into becoming the insipid cartoon characters they originated as is also a deeply cynical resolution, showing that you can either stay in the closet and allude to your sexuality through the plausible deniablity of metaphor, or you can make yourself into a one-note caricature that America can laugh at. Out of all those dumb Hanna Barbera reboot comics, this was the best one, but thats a very low bar to clear

>>150212324
Huckleberry has always been gay and Quickdraw is gay in the way that Batman is gay

>>150212324
They were actors, right? Not all gays are campy flamboyant flamers. The majority of gays are just regular guys who happen to be homosexual. Acting is a pretty gay profession and they're probably analogous to someone like Rock Hudson

>>150211979 (OP)
El Kabong gaybashing Huckleberry Hound is all I remember about this comic lol

>>150212324
They probably the two characters most associated with him so they were always going to be the ones picked as supporting characters
Also Quick was already made gay way before this in Harvey Birdman

>>150212425
Yep. For every Oscar Wilde, there are probably multiple Walt Whitmans.

>>150211979 (OP)
It was commie apologist propaganda

>>150212425
Retard

Was Snagglepuss a bottom or not I forget

>>150211979 (OP)
Never understood why people thought he was gay, besides him being pink. He was clearly just a Bert Lahr impersonation

>>150212408
>Out of all those dumb Hanna Barbera reboot comics, this was the best one, but thats a very low bar to clear

Disagree.

Flintstones was a better execution at the subversiveness while still having heart.

Ennis' Dastardly & Muttley is criminally underrated and IMO better than Snagglepuss.

I'd put D&M second only to Flintstones only because Flintstones had more room to do stuff w 12 issues.

Also, FutureQuest was a very different thing but also enjoyable. Wholesome and sincere. Deserved to live on.

And fwiw, I think Jetsons wasn't bad. Not amazing, but not awful. It was decent.

Wacky Raceland and Chaykin's Ruff & Reddy were garbage.

Scooby Apocalypse... I can't believe it survived for 3 years. Giffen is always decent-at-worst, but still... the premise was stretched thin. The Secret Squirrel backups were the best part

>>150214513
Adding on... the first 2 volumes of the DC/HB crossovers were genuinely goofy fun. Volume 3 ran out of juice.

And the Looney Tunes/DC crossovers from the same time were also good. Russel's Lex Luthor/Porky Pig crossover from volume 2 was IMO better than Snagglepuss as well.

In hindsight, Snagglepuss was one of Russell's weaker DC books because it felt too on-the-nose. Prez and Wonder Twins were more enjoyable as well.

>>150214551
The main problem with Snagglepuss is that it's "straight person's first experience with gay fiction" both in terms of writer and audience. Among the actual queer market gayngst has been passe since the early 00s and historical retrospective gayngst that isn't a memoir is the LGBT lit equivalent of Oscar bait.

>>150214513
Flintstones is garbage.

My question is why they didn't just use Roy Cohn instead of making up a fictional character who looks like Ayn Rand and is inexplicably named after a punk rocker?

>>150216503
form your own opinions by actually reading comics instead of regurgitating whatever you think is the latest /co/ntrarianism

>>150216505
Because in spite of Cohn being a horrific human being no matter your politics, having to face the reality that a barely closeted man could thrive in the 1950s kinda throws a wrench in the story.

>>150211979 (OP)
You mean force your disgusting faggot agenda on anyone who sees your literal shit, you vile poop eating pedophile.

>>150218929
Meanwhile Trumps speaker admitted he went to Epstein Island

>>150214141
It's always commie propaganda with you

>>150216505
The ironic thing about her looking at Ayn Rand is that, despite her personal homophobia, she didn't believe that the state had the right to interfere in relationships between consenting adults. She would not have liked Gigi's persecution of gays.

>>150222085
I'm just tired of the false narrative that the Red Scare was a modern day witch hunt that persecuted anyone with lefty political leanings and innocent gay actors because they literally were all commie agents/sympathizers funded directly by the USSR

>>150223861
I thought it was interesting that Stonewall was a mafia-run child prostitution ring that would pimp out runaway boys to gay men.
The fags rioted when police shut it down because it made it harder for them to rape children.

>>150212408
My dad, and his brother fucking love thundercats to death nigger, they would probably be fucking angry if they saw what they did to them.

>>150212408
We elected Orange Hitler because you wouldn't stop raping our hobbies, and whoever we elect next will be even further to the right than him to finish the job.

>>150212408
>how McCarthy was right to prosecute gay people since that's "cultural marxism,"
They were literally communist spies and he never really got the chance to prosecute them (which was never his wheelhouse or intention as a Senator) because the Blob immediately tried to smear and take him out the second he brought up the allegations.

>>150214513
Mark Russell is barely a step above Tom King and his Flintstones was incredibly overrated but Dastardly & Muttley was kino

>>150211979 (OP)
>better than Velma 2024
A ridiculously low bar to cross.

You'd think this series would have touched upon the rampant homophobia in many Marxist states.

what even is this thread...

>>150217652
I did read it. I crapped on it back when /co/ still loved it.

>>150227789
It's a /pol/ embassy

>>150224983
nothing in your crop from the History Channel talks about child prostitution, sweetie.
the mafia have made money from drugs, prostitution, stealing, 'protection rackets,' murder and all sorts of other unsavory and violent, criminal things - so why should it surprise anyone than something that was criminalized (gay behavior/gay sex) wasn't something that they figured out how to profit from.
Stonewall wasn't the only bar that any mafia family profited from, there were plenty that allowed gambling and also allowed interracial couples and other things that were otherwise viewed as illegal, immoral, unacceptable, etc.

>>150211979 (OP)
It's what happen when the writer can actually write

>>150229129
you keep telling yourself that...

>>150225203
Nah, Russell is much better than King. Russell is actually capable of sincerity and fun comics. Prez and Wonder Twins are proof of that.

HOWEVER he has really fallen off. I'm not going to place all the blame for the latest X Factor volume at his feet because the X Men editorial office is a dumpster fire and no one was capable of being an actual professional support editor for him, so it was like reading a rough draft get published.

BUT some of his recent indie stuff for Ahoy and the One Star Squadron from DC landed with a thud. They went from being clever about satire to laying it on too thick.

Second Coming was good. Russell at least writes like he doesn't hate the characters. Can't say the same about King

>>150226332
I'm still not sure if the guy going back to Cuba to participate in the Revolution was supposed to be bleak irony or not.

>>150230536
TBF a lot of Ahoy's stuff seems like that, not just Russels work for them

>>150229595
Fag

>>150230797
Their Toxic Avenger stuff has been good.
I liked Second Coming and Captain Ginger
And Wrong Earth is great

>>150221331
You support pedophiles, your opinion is irrelevant

>>150211979 (OP)
The problem with Mark Russell is that it’s funny writing the Flintstones and Snagglepuss like this but this is also how he writes regular characters and it’s more corny than funny under that lens

>>150214513
FutureQuest and Dastardly & Muttley were the best. The FutureQuest tie-ins were cool too.

I liked Scooby Apocalypse, even if it dragged a bit around the 3/4 mark

>>150211979 (OP)
What so good about Snugglepuss anyway?

>>150233204
Gives good head thanks to that scratchy cat tongue

>>150231973
SA went off the rails when it offed Fred and had Daphnine go full on feminist nazi psychopath.

>>150233358
QRD?

>>150230536
Eh, his Prez reads like his Flintstones reads like his Second Coming reads like his Billionaire Island. He's just as one note as King and they both think they're deep for repeating milquetoast bullshit.

>>150211979 (OP)
This is the third thread this week about this comic. Did some youtuber or twitter fag talk about it?