Thread 150302749

Get it RIGHT

>>150302749 (OP)
Still the worst Batgirl suit design.

>>150302749 (OP)
>Only way DC could make people care about Babsgirl again was de-aging her by half and making her act like Stephanie Brown

Embarrassing.

Something very millennial or zoomer coded about this costume. Something about the way they drew her pose and look, especially the shoes and ears showing. I feel like she DEFINITELY has her phone in one of of those utility pockets.
Even the utility belt being tilted feels a little too tee hee teen cutesy. Especially when Barbara Gordon is such an old character.

>>150302794
And it was one of the most jerked off costume redesigns everywhere for years

The part that says "don't draw boobs on her" tells me all I need to hate this design.

>>150302749 (OP)
I'm good.

>>150302749 (OP)
I don't even hate the costume but saying it was practical was dumb. The run had an interesting idea but just did it all wrong.

>>150302825
>Babsgirl again was de-aging her by half
making her a cutesy teenager with her loose boots and selfies is just weird

>>150302850
>I feel like she DEFINITELY has her phone in one of of those utility pockets.
I don't know what gave you that idea.

>>150302927
>>150302931
I was joking for god's sake, DC. No wonder I don't read you anymore.

>>150302749 (OP)
this was when she became a real trainwreck

>>150302951
Who are these people? They all have the same face.

>>150302967
They were Babs Burger King kids club

>>150302749 (OP)
>design that makes the character look 15
>was done by a groomer
Lol, lmao even

>>150302951
You're actually wrong as in your timeline as in you talking about Batgirl of Burnside while posting something from 3 years after Burnside.

>>150302749 (OP)
I really appreciate seeing costume design reference images like this

I wish the thread was about that instead

>>150302850
>Especially when Barbara Gordon is such an old character.
She's not though.
Also it's way too late in the game to be bitching about her having a smartphone.

>>150303064
was it really that much later? It seemed like this shit all happened at once. The tranny was running around since 2011

>>150302915
That's because you're thinking of the word practical in a different usage. You're thinking "practical in universe for a superhero". The person that did this was thinking practical in the sense of "girls in college on a budget will have an easier time doing DIY cosplays of this"

>>150302996
Would
>>150303264
I think he means in the sense she's been around for about 60 years ontop of a long time the character seemingly being more in her 30s since the 90s. Like yeah now she's back to being a college girl but if you were a comicfag for a long time she was pretty past that.

>>150303324
Was she though? I think we're misremembering how petty and immature Oracle was.

>>150303310
not realizing college girls don't give a shit about batgirl

>>150303284
You could also be forgetting how there was more than one Batgirl title too

>>150302850
>Something very millennial or zoomer coded about this costume.
There's nothing "coded" about it you 12 year old retard, this is from the era where they took a design and storyline that was very obviously created with Steph in mind, and jammed a newly-zoomerfied Babs into it instead because the New 52 ruined everything forever.

>>150303264
She's been around forever, since the 60s. It's weird showing her as a 2010s Instagram teen.

>>150302996
Lmao, what the fuck was the doctor going to do for a tranny at a fucking fertility clinic?

>>150303440
>zoomerfied
Wrong again Turkey breath, this was pure millenialcore as Zoomers were still just ipad babies at this point.

>>150303468
pretend that he wasn't talking to a crazy person

>>150302749 (OP)
I don't even hate the concept behind this costume design, I actually like the whole theme of it and think it works on a fundamental level. I just absolutely fucking hate the retarded overly-cutesy mid-2010s webcomic-about-nothing-anybody-gives-a-shit-about art style it was mostly drawn in and the fact that they used fucking Barbara for it when she should've stayed Oracle.

>>150303454
What's weird about it? It's not like these characters age in real time.

>>150303434
I just remember that it seemed like every week there was some silly shit going on with her. Hell if I remember how long it all went on for

>>150303468
>>150303491
You're bad at reading because there's another woman at the table who is married to the transwoman and she's the one who was visting the fertility doctor.

>>150303476
Zoomers were starting to hit adulthood when this storyline was running, anon.

>>150303503
She was never really a teenager in the mainstream comics. And this series was meant to take place after TKJ, and after she was Oracle.

>>150302951
>>150302996
>we're relevant and topical!

>>150303525
No they weren't.

>>150303523
nta, and while I also picked up on what was actually going on here, I can't really blame them for getting confused with no other context. For all they knew it might've been just a bunch of trannies chatting at a bar, god knows they all look like them.

>>150303476
This is why classifying generations like this is fucking dumb, the experience of someone born in 82 who was 30 or older in 2012 was entirely different from someone born in 92 and was 20.

>>150303528
She's not really a teenager here either anon.

>>150303503
Cos she spent a long time as Oracle and seemed more like an adult, and other characters moved past their initial roles successfully like Dick. If he suddenly was just Robin again, and a modern teenage Robin at that, it would be pretty weird wouldn't it?

>>150303553
They literally were, the oldest zoomers were born in 1997, and this era of Batgirl started in 2014, when they'd have been 17 getting ready to turn 18.

>>150303580
>Cos she spent a long time as Oracle and seemed more like an adult
No she didn't, you were just younger than her but Oracle was just as likely to act like a jealpus teenage girl over Dick dating Kori or some other slutty superheroine.

>>150303523
No I got that. I'm still trying to figure out how the tranny's gender would've came up at all if she wasn't the patient

>>150303623
Yeah anon, that's how women are.

>>150303628
That's kinda the point in that the doctor was being inappropriate.
I know you might want to argue with the text and invent a situation where the character deserves to be misgendered but we really have no choice but to accept what's being presented as what happened.

>>150303623
I didn't say she acted like an adult man, anon. She's still a woman. The role she played was more of an adult role and natural successor to her Batgirl era, same as Dick becoming Nightwing was a good decision.

>>150303628
>>150303654
If they were at a fertility clinic as a couple, it's very likely they were discussing their ability to have a baby AS A COUPLE you retards, meaning they were problably discussing shit like the tranny's ability to knock up the woman in addition to whatever fertility shit the non-tranny might've had going on. Or they were discussing the process for inseminating the real woman with the fake one's sperm. There are plenty of reasons why a tranny and a woman talking to a fertility doctor about trying to make a baby together might discuss the fact that the tranny is a man.

>>150303579
I know, but she feels like one despite her already having that history I mentioned

>>150303684
back to my original statement
the doctor had to pretend that he wasn't talking to a crazy person.

>>150303675
I don't see Nightwing as being much of a change over being Robin like Oracle was to Batgirl.

>>150303701
I don't see why you would read any of her behavior as that of a teenage girl.

whoops

>>150303415
I never claimed the people making these decisions were in touch with their audience. Or anyone outside of their little bubble.

>>150303742
No I don't mean you, I mean the DC guys who did the costume thinking girls would want to cosplay it

>>150303742
>>150303755
I think it's more about being DiY with materials recognizable like deniem.

>>150303827
yeah, but it still reveals DC being unable or just refusing to admit what women are really like and that the majority or not the girlpower dopes who tweet online. All the girls loves the first movie Harley costume. what do they do for the sequel. go out of their way to desexify it and then get surprised when most girls lose interest.

>>150302749 (OP)
>A fucking bell-boy

>>150303415
This artist going off on trend chasers is certainly a flex

>>150302749 (OP)
Cameron Stewart got what he deserved

>>150303851
I think you're wrong in interpreting this as some kind of anti-sex anti-male gaze thing.

>>150303891
Can you actually explain what if anyone consequences you think Cameron Stewart went through?

>>150303897
Oh it definitely is. they've made it very clear over the last decade that this is entirely about resentment

>>150303897
they're saying it right in the pic

>>150303891
What do you mean, his career ended overnight

>>150303956
Meant to quote
>>150303907

>>150303914
Whose they?

>>150302749 (OP)
Boobs are evil. If you have boobs you're part of the problem

>>150302749 (OP)
Going against the grain here, but I’ve come to like the costume. Burnside probably may not have been the best tone for Babs, but I feel the costume itself was probably the best ones of the DIY costumes from that era.

>>150303953
Are they? I see Babs with a slender but curvy figure with a visible bust and butt.

>>150303731
It definitely felt like they were trying to write her as younger than when she was in BoP or the 90's books.

>>150302794
It was alright, it just didn't fit the character or her age. It would be good for a younger Babs first starting out

>>150303956
>>150303970
How would we know? Cameron Stewart was only a big name in obscure circles with this being his most visible project and this is still being sold by bookstores.

>>150304026
I thought you meant>>150303851 pic.
though there a definitely less curves on that costume than her previous version

>>150304071
Is it or is it jist the fact they're drawing with clothes instead of the usual trick jist drawing them nude?

>>150302749 (OP)
i always loved it. It looked so new. But now it's old, and i'm not teen anymore. Now i'm sad.

>>150304092
your statement sounds like the rhetoric they like to use making me think you know it's less sexualized (but here's why its a good thing)

>>150304037
That might be true but that only true in that she was back in graduate school instead of being a post-grad.

>>150302927
>>150302931
this book any good? might pick it up

>>150304109
It's not about less sexualization but just the fact drawing superheroes nude is an artist's trick because it's easier than drawing an actual costume where fabric has weight so it's more about quality control.

>>150303511
still to this day, i don't understand how this cover was that controversial

fucking tumblrfags, i swear to god

>>150304149
no, when they did it, it was about less sexualization. Who are you kidding? The same reason she was doing selfies and living with trannies. It was aiming for a specific audience.

Rank the Batgirls
>Betty Kane
>Barbara Gordon
>Cassandra Cain
>Stephanie Brown
And any other brief claimants if you like

>>150304222
I remember the butthurt this caused

>>150304127
NTA, but being completely honest? The book is definitely geared more towards a younger/female audience so I wouldn’t necessarily make it a priority if you’re not into that sort of stuff. If you’re really looking for recommendations, I suggest the Rebirth run by Mairghread Scott. Possibly some of the strongest writing Babs has had in years.

>>150304185
It was never about less sexualization, Babs is still in tights with a focus on her tight perky rear and proud modest bust.
The avoidance of the boob sock look was about authenticity, a skintight kevlar is nout authentic so they went with leather and deniem and doc martens to communicate a costume made out of real clothes.

>>150304253
HEY BABE
YOU'RE A BABS TARR

>>150304253
How many sarcastic jerk-off motions did the writer pause to make while writing the "apology".

>>150304222
reminder they had to re-edit these for the trades so that Dagger being a man didn't surprise Batgirl or some shit.

>>150304281
55

>>150304281
Sprained wrist for a week

>>150304289
>Dagger Type, you mentally ill male freak, what do you think you're doing dressing as me, a woman, something you can and will never be, you XY gene having man!
to
>Dagger Type, you!

>>150304275
>authenticity
stop it.
It's fucking comic, they could write it however they want to justify anything. she was living with a tranny but somehow couldn't fucking tell.

>>150302749 (OP)
SEXOOOOOOOOOOO

>>150302951
>>150302996
Superheroes?

>>150303523
>another woman
>woman

>>150302749 (OP)
>Babs thread
Haven’t seen these in a while, but I guess with the lack of material it’s not much of a surprise. Anyways, Babs apparently was one of the winners for that collaboration/contest between DC and the US Mint, so she’s getting her own coin in 2027, so at least that’s something to look forward to.

>>150304222
I have some horrible, bonechilling news:
Batgirl #37....is transphobic.
https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2014/12/disappointment-again-batgirl-37-is-transphobic/

>>150302931
Qt

>>150302856
no it wasnt, you literally have no way of proving that. More people jerked off to the 60s and TAS ones and youre just gonna deny deny deny that for some unknown motive.

>>150302749 (OP)
>RIGHT
Her Knight armor was the best

>>150303975
the writers of the media being discussed, the people who approved it, and those who encouraged them behind the scenes. Now kindly shut the fuck up youre not nearly as clever as you think.

>>150304719
For sure, last good attempt to give her a semi realistic look.

>>150304621
I did not mean jerked off in a sexual sense, I mean in a soppily praised way.

>>150304719
>Wedge heels
Based.

>>150304502
>Batgirl #37 is transphobic. I wish that I could leave it at that. I wish I could make my feelings come across with those simple words and get people to understand. I wish that people wouldn’t defend it as unintentional, focusing on the possibility that there wasn’t malevolence in the creation and distribution of the issue. It remains transphobic regardless.
>You can’t tell me that this comic won’t leave a mark on any young, questioning trans women who read it. You can’t tell me that this comic can’t do any harm.
>A transphobic comic book was scripted, drawn, colored, lettered, printed, and distributed. Honestly, it’s business as usual, all things considered. Something that’s half joke, half rule of thumb: trans women look for art and media that’s less transphobic than others, not content that isn’t transphobic. You might as well be talking about petting a fucking unicorn in the latter case.
>I’m disappointed and disgusted that I have to criticize a comic for being transphobic less than a month after I wrote a plea begging for better portrayals of trans women in media, let alone a comic I referenced in the very same piece.
>Educate yourself on transgender issues. Listen to transgender people. Critique transphobia in media. Yell from the goddamn rafters that you’re not going to accept transphobic characters or events in media. Make inclusive art. I try to read comics to escape from how awful the world is around me, and have since I was a little kid. I don’t need to be constantly reminded that I’m feared, hated, and mocked for who I am. I don’t need to be reminded that people who cross gender lines are considered crazy and not to be trusted. I need something more.

>>150304901
why can't these people just be thrown out of helicopters again?

>>150302749 (OP)
I just like how it's visibly something that Barbara could've made on her lonesome during her starting days where she wasn't directly associated with Batman's support network.

>>150304502
>women write about comics
opinion discarded.
let the tranny into her bathroom first. then let me hear her opinion.

>>150303415
This was real in 2016 I remember

>>150305160
>women

>>150302943
Burnside Batgirl is almost 12 years old. You're just a poser that never picked up a comic.

>>150303525
Some zoomerd maybe, but this de was a run tailored for the millennial mind. Trying to kick on the last kick of nostalgia to become an adult outside of college.

>>150305317
>umm AKSHULLY comics have been shit for many years, not just a lot of years!
Who was this intended to impress?

>>150305367
>Who was this intended to impress?
That hot girl in my class who always holds her nose when I walk by.

>>150302749 (OP)
>Leather jacket
>For a character that do acrobatics and usually have to keep her arms up to swing from a wire.

>>150304621
It 100% was constantly held up as some kind of shining beacon of "correct modern costumes" for years.

Looks like you got it....WRONG. Heh heh.

>>150302825
If they had just done DCAU smokehouse Babs it would've sold so many copies Marvel would have sued them for unfair competition.

>>150305743
>correct modern costumes
How obnoxious

>>150304901
> I wish I could make unilateral decrees that effect all policy, media, and human interactions and that my opinion couldn't be questioned or disagreed with to any degree
These people shouldn't have a platform

>>150302951
> Make earnest attempt at understanding and being someone's friend and confidant
> Be screeched at like you're the devil itself
This is why liberalism is failing.

>>150304026
She has neither and they specifically made a note that she shouldn't be drawn sexy

>>150304275
As someone who knows people who dress up in leather at sex clubs, I can tell you it not showing off the details of their boobs and ass isn't authentic at all. You're also supposed to emphasize attractive features in art. That's what artistic license is.

This is just ugly anti-male design meant to appeal to a demographic that doesn't exist. Women don't like looking ugly.

>>150304719
They really took their sweet ass time making her playable.

>>150303851
having birds of prey be about harley quinn would be like having spider-man be the main character in guardians of the galaxy. also black canary being a black woman is just the peak of comic movie cynicism.

>>150304501
i like the heroes, but the versions of each one are a little head scratching (except Arthur/Kara). also is that dick or jason?

>>150305743
Was it though? Who are you even talking about when you say this stuff.

>>150304901
>me me me me me me

>>150306219
>they specifically made a note that she shouldn't be drawn sexy
No they didn't, they made a note about you should draw her wearing actual clothes and not just be drawn naked but that wasn't about making her less sexualized, it was about making sure people were drawing the costume.
>I can tell you it not showing off the details of their boobs and ass isn't authentic at all
But it is, in the grand scheme of things you're the one not making sense and seemingly ignoring how the reality you're describing simply doesn't exist.

>>150306719
Years of seeing OP's image reposted by people when talking about great redesigns

>>150306755
So you mean people from here? Or are you talking about twitter or reddit?

>>150306744
>>150306769
Knock it off. You sound like one of those people who insist Escher Girls was about really about anatomical accuracy.

>>150306769
Hardly here. Everywhere else, and in general it was regularly jerked off in media. Even the cancelled Batgirl HBO film was a 1:1 adaptation of it.

>>150304181
Best argument I've seen is just that it's very tonally incompatible with the actual comic, which had a more laid back slice of life feel.

>>150306829
except it was a variant cover

and as you can see>>150304238 people really sperged out over it because it would be so traumatic for young girls or some shit. Even thought it was part of the character. Maybe this is what happens when they take a character with an established history and decide to jigger things to cater to new people.

This was all during those years when people were look for any reason to have a fit

>>150306857
Honestly I'm noticing how there is a trend in this thread where you assume people are upset and outrage and you use that assumption as grievance.
It's grievance aimed at assumed grievance.

>>150306882
No I just actually remember things

>>150304238
>you're fifteen
>youre in the comic shop for the first time because you saw babs tarr interior art on tumblr
damn... that's just like me

>>150306895
Not enough to be specific, just enough to be sure that there was an group that you were mad at for having opinons you already disagreed with.

>>150306857
This cover deserved to get shit, for being hideous.

>>150306920
you're not fooling anyone. We all remember this shit. rewrite it however you want

>>150306932
yeah, that was why they complained.

>>150306920
the "spider-woman" text over the butt was intentional censorship due to backlash

>>150306968
That's a very strange pose from that angle on the couch

>>150306988
https://thediscordia.wordpress.com/2016/10/30/j-scott-campbell-a-history-of-controversy/

>>150306983
But the problem you're treating everything as the same thing so you assume Batgirl getting a new costume is the same thing as the spider-woman cover.

>>150306983
by comicbook standards it was a pretty mainstream controversy. this is anecdotal, but i remember non-comic fan college students bringing it up in 100 politics classes at the time.

>>150304050
For the longest time, I thought it was for a "Batgirl Year 1" style comic since she looks like she's 15.

Does anyone have the panel of Babsgirl falling into the dumpster, I've been looking for it forever

>>150307054
The real point of contention should have been how terrible the artwork was, not that her buttcheeks were visible.

>>150307014
>This is how Campbell draws a character who has rape as part of her backstory.
Is Black Cat not meant to act sexy at any point or something?

>>150307051
the spider-woman is the first thing in the thread i commented on, im not any of the anons you've been talking to. I'm responding to the claim that grievance about the spider-woman cover is being "assumed," because I remember it being a very big controversy (by comic standards) at the time. it was a real backlash, and one large enough to alter the variant to desexualize it.

>>150307074
I think this is bordering on disingenuous opinion. There's no objective look to looking 15 so the complaints is that she's not in a wheelchair wearing a sweater and that's the only evidence that she looks younger.

>>150307051
It was.
Youre really gonna pretend there wasn't heavy screeching about objectification and male gaze and all that crap?. You're really gonna pretend that the new costume was purely for "authenticity" even though other posters have called out how illogical the whole thing is that a girl on her own constructed this bulky ass thing that she's then doing gymnastics comfortably with.

and they were pulling this shit with a lot of female characters including HEY SPIDERGIRL

>>150307101
>Black Cat art - REMEMBER HER HISTORY
>Batgirl cover - FORGET HER HISTORY

>>150307104
Why would you respond to that specifically when this thread has been about Batgirl of Burnside? You're kinda proving my point when I point out that the criticism that people have about Batgirl isn't actually about Batgirl but just a general grievance.

>>150307124
I don't have to pretend but you do, you have to create a narrative where you were escaping persecution from misandrist who infiltrated your hobby to demoralize you for being a straight man and they were doing this by wanting to avoid the boob sock look.
Batgirl still had tits, she was still wearing tights and had her tight round ass in focus but you think this was meant to disgust men like ugh where's my boob sock?

>>150307207
You're saying it. not me.
which means you're heard it before, but keep saying this is all coming out of nowhere.

>>150307122
>I think this is bordering on disingenuous opinion.
Sounds like you're just mad someone has an opinion that doesn't align with yours.
Like, literally all you had to say that you don't think she looks 15, and that would have been a fine counter argument.

>>150307273
It's not a counter argument because saying you think she looks 15 isn't an argument, it's disingenuous.
She doesn't look 15 but more importantly she doesn't act like she's 15 so where are you getting 15 from? Is she younger then she was pre-flashpoint? Yeah she is. Does it mean she's acting like a teenager? No it doesn't.

>>150307354
You do you bring up how she acts when the initial augment is about looks?
And yes she does look 15, at least to me.
She looks like she'd fit right in alongside characters like Ms. Marvel, Gwenpool and Miles.

>>150306576
>is that dick or jason?
Don’t know. The initial poll used a picture of Damian, but the description was very generic and it could honestly have applied to any Robin. To me, the final image looks more like Tim.

>>150307488
>That colour palette
It looks like muddied shit. This is fucking garbage.

>>150307623
no u

>>150302850
you tried

>>150307488
I like the knee armor. For some reason it feels like they often get overlooked in armors like this, even though they're a pretty obvious weak spot of humans.

Yeah I got your RIGHT right here

>>150307718
I get that this was aimed at a younger audience and supposed to be "hip" but it's a little weird seeing Gotham crimefighting portrayed like band practice.

>>150307711
Where did I get it wrong?

>>150307896
It's only weird if you make it weird.
and Batgirl of Burnside wasn't even aimed at a younger audience truth be told, it was just aimed at college girl.

>>150307988
College girls don't read comics.

>>150307995
Not with that attitude they don't.

>>150308020
I don't think having Batgirl revolve around her gossiping with her socially conscious diverse college friends is going to make college girls read comic books.

>>150308036
Do you think >>150302951
>>150302996
Is from the same creative team as this? You have to touch grass and actually read the comic you're talking shit about.

wow it SNAPS ON

>>150308135
thats some shit art

>>150302749 (OP)
This would be fine if it was her halloween costume

>>150308668
cute bat girl

>>150309474
she's shocked. go hug her

>>150302749 (OP)
Trash

>>150307076
I am once again asking for the babs falling into a dumpster panel

>>150310016
Nevermind I found it lol

>>150302794
There aren't that many

>>150303998
>>150302749 (OP)
I don’t know, I think it’s charming

>>150309390
It would be ironically fitting if it was.

>>150311250
that little hussy

>>150311103
Poor Gordon

>>150311309
>your boss's daughter show up to the office Halloween party dressed like this, wwyd?

>>150311505
It's like she WANTS the Joker to rape her. Geesh, Babs

>>150302749 (OP)
It's....just.....so....PRRRRACTICAAAAL!

>>150302850
Anon discovers that different decades are visually distinct from one another, but says it in the most terminally online way possible

>>150311947
>different decades
Why are you acting as if all outfits the 2010s looked like this and it wasn't specifically a conscious effort to make a "hip young college girl" costume?

>>150302749 (OP)
shouldn't that belt be dropping down. what is it attached to?

>>150312416
Second strap on the thigh.

Holy shit, Charlie Kirk just got killed by some Boomer

>>150310797
so.....??

She looked good in Gotham Knights.

>>150302749 (OP)
Batgirl of Burnside feels like a "Babs makes a homemade Batsuit to fight crime" thing rather than something that would be her permanent crimefighting outfit.

>>150312434
but that shouldn't hold it up. should the whole thing still droop down.

>>150312800
She has the power of quirk.

Who remembers this Batgirl outfit/toy?

>>150313554
I had this Robin. I don't know why he had chainmail.

>>150311788
Batgirl knows how to beat off criminals don't you worry.

>>150313808
Í cant imagine living in a world where, when you go out and do crime, you might get the living shit beat out of you by a hot red head dressed like a bat

>>150313832
She ain't a crime deterrent, she's a crime incitement.

>>150313964
>>150313832
>be criminal
>get your ass beat by batgirl
>somehow figure out her secret identity
>but then you’d admit that you got beat up by a bratty teenage girl
What do?
>>150313964
I genuinely think most criminals would be too horny to focus on fighting her or running away

>>150304901
>write something that doesn't feature trannies
>THAT'S TRANSPHOBIC
>write something that does feature trannies
>THAT'S TRANSPHOBIC
Wish it was socially acceptable to be retardphobic

>>150307054
>for horny men only
Pretty fucking sexist take tbdesusenpai, we just gonna pretend horny lesbos don't exist?

>>150304901
>Educate yourself on transgender issues. Listen to transgender people. Critique transphobia in media. Yell from the goddamn rafters that you’re not going to accept transphobic characters or events in media.
Don't tell me what to do, you ain't my mutha

>>150314376
That's not a nice thing to say to your father

Barbara was improved by getting shot.

>>150314584
Nah, she was improved by writers not giving up on her.

>>150303415
For me it’s Fat Harley with the drink.

>>150314732
Me working up the courage to talk to the pretty lady

>>150314832
Probably Tim trying to tell her that he likes men

>>150304222

I unironically loved Dagger-type.
Villains impersonating the hero is always fun. This had a bit more of a spin to it.
Though I suppose since he didn't really have much more to explore he was best as a one off.

>>150304222
>>150304253
My retarded ass actually bought the "if you don't like it, don't read it" meme, so I have no idea what's going on here. Why such a long apology? "Dagger Type"? What does that mean I'm guessing the character in the stupid gold Batman outfit is a tranny?

I'm so confused, my brain doesn't seem to be absorbing this information. Is "Dagger Type" the name of the tranny?

>>150315689
Dagger Type is a male character who was dressing up as Batgirl and trying to replace her, that it was a man was a twist. This was decried as transphobic, to use the "crazy guy dressed as a woman" trope, like Norman Bates.

>>150310062
Did Dick find her in the dumpster?

>>150302749 (OP)
I never read this series. Was it young Batgirl or was it a post-oracle batgirl adventures?

>>150316450
Both. New 52 made it so Barbara was young the only Batgirl there had ever been, and was paralyzed for three years before being cured and becoming Batgirl again.

>>150316552
I like that she's not crippled because all of the bat tech Bruce has really should fix her, and there's neat things you can do with that premise. Maybe Wayne tech is so good they are just curing crippled people. Maybe its an experimental fix that causes her great pain, so Barbra rides in a wheel chair except for when she's Bat Girl and just playing through the pain. Either way, its good for Barb's character and the DC world as a whole.

>>150316826
It wasn't good at all to just erase Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown's histories as Batgirl from existence, nor rewind Barbara back to being a kid hero.

>>150302794
FPBP.

>>150310062
I like this batgirl costume a lot. The mask is a lot more fun than the biker jacket look.

>>150317679
>Where is Sick?

>>150318194
Her polygonal septum make mah deek hard

>>150318233
I've never heard of a nose fetish

>>150318194
I feel like she would look very odd without her mask.

>>150318528
Sometimes they do because the character isn't made to be outside of their gear, but the gear pushes proportions. Like Pharah in Overwatch; if you look at her suit, it implies her body will be shaped weirdly.

>>150302749 (OP)
This fits a young Babs. Also she has a nice arse in Gotham Knights

>>150303511
I remember the fun threads when this first came out

>>150315689
Dagger Type is a pun on daguerreotype, an early type of photography involving a highly polished sliver-plated copper and mercury fumes, and the controversy is that his(?) Evil plan is just crossdressing.

>>150320507
The worse crime though is how Dagger Type isn't a bigger femboy.

>>150306932
Shut the fuck up, never let that amount of shit taste leave your thoughts again. Nobody should read that

>>150320694
It's hideous

>>150320507
>>150320522
Crazy part is that they could've easily set this person up as being trans as part of their character arc and we may have gotten something somewhat decent. But DC bitched out

>>150302749 (OP)
Or ELSE, shitlord

>>150302749 (OP)
How many Batfriends are we up to now? Or did they cull a few?

>>150302794
>Worst
For me, it’s her current one. At least the Burnside one was decently charming in design.

>>150322325
That's the exact same outfit with different shoes and cowl. Even the belt is just palette swapped.

>>150303739
Are we ever gonna get a workprint of this leaked?

>>150303857
I don't see it

Batgirl is the COOLEST!

>>150302749 (OP)
Those shoes are very nicely drawn

>>150321066
Like Dagger Type both literally and figuratively softening up into a cunty rival Babsgirl.

>>150325823
>this is what Dagger Type is supposed to look like
There's something almost inspirational about a skinnyfat artboi being inspired by Batgirl's supple curves and put the werk into achieving the same body for the aesthetic.

>>150326943
I guess the chin kinda gives it away . . .

>>150302749 (OP)
Why does everyone hate this? I don't like the jacket, but the cape buttons are cute.

>>150327169
It's a costume for a younger Babs, the problem is that the writers/designers are trying to keep her in it. Even when she's passed it.

>>150327200
Easy solution, then. Just keep her young.

>>150327218
But the fans can't her get fucked by Tim or Dick then

>>150327169
It's a little too tee hee cutesy. Trying too hard to be "hip".

>>150327237
She can fuck Damian. It'll be fine.

>>150327237
She can fuck some other guy then

>>150327384
keep it in your pants Bruce

This thread sucks, bunch of faggots whining about nothing.
Post more art of Batgirl in her sexy practicool costume

>>150327440
Haha.....

>>150327493
no

>>150327493
nothing "practical" about it

>>150328562
oh yeah, that movie

>>150329054
It was fun

>>150302749 (OP)
yikes

>>150320507
>>150321066
>>150325823
Some historical context is in order. Before it blew up big in the mainstream, there was a major debate across various social media platforms about whether or not drag was transphobic. Everything about the Dagger Type controversy is rooted in that debate because Dagger Type as Batgirl is literally a drag performance.

>>150329446
I saw it over twenty years ago now so I don't really remember it, I wouldn't have known the extended elements of Batman that well at the time either. Maybe I should rewatch.

>>150302749 (OP)
Get N or get OUT

>>150329564
>Maybe I should rewatch.
it was pretty good

>>150322325
>For me, it’s her current one.
That one looks 10 times better. At least that one doesn't look like it was put together and bought out of a thrift shop for $36. No protege of Batman has any right looking like that. They should all have tailored suits and the one you posted at least looks like that.

>>150331202
>blood red lipstick

>>150331161
This chart probably ought to break some of those down further as some are sequels to others, like both Superman/Batman films, and Flashpoint Paradox started a longer run of 17 continuous films, but still with with occasional standalone ones.

Batman & Harley Quinn is vaguely presented as if it is in the DCAU but not exactly stated, also, while Justice League The Fatal Five definitely is meant to be in the DCAU.

>>150331202
Damn. Who's she talking to?

>>150332449
me