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Anonymous No.150305148 [Report] >>150305351 >>150305449 >>150306616 >>150307220 >>150307286 >>150309307 >>150309872 >>150319400 >>150329638 >>150331254
Loki IRL
I'll admit that it has a certain "Ralph Bakshi" indie-punk appeal to the production, If Ralph Bakshi was bad at animating and had a obsession with crappy early 2000s toyetic monster tournament animes dubbed by 4KidsEntertainment, but again, so do i
Anonymous No.150305180 [Report] >>150305191
...
Post it.
Anonymous No.150305191 [Report] >>150305271 >>150307286 >>150307362 >>150308256 >>150308350 >>150310078 >>150313862 >>150315133 >>150316915 >>150318419 >>150318540 >>150318732 >>150323142 >>150323207 >>150339042
>>150305180
Anonymous No.150305271 [Report] >>150305332 >>150322470
>>150305191
Is that panpizza himself?
Anonymous No.150305290 [Report]
Ricky, you whitephobic little shit, stop shilling your fucking Blameitonjorge diaper show here.
Anonymous No.150305332 [Report] >>150305349
>>150305271
If you ask two anons, one will tell you this is Pan trying to crossdress with foundation and trying to play angles with the camera. If you ask the other anon they will tell you it's not Pan because Pan is fat now and his nose is off.

Personally, I think the nose point is mute as he has put on weight and the shot is at a downwards angle, so the nose is going to look off compared to a side angled shot for instance. If you look at his older akinny long haired photos where he has shaved there is an uncanny resemblance with the crossdress photo.

Either way: it's in character if it was him.
Anonymous No.150305349 [Report]
>>150305332
Much more detailed answer that i've expected, thanks.
Anonymous No.150305351 [Report] >>150305523
>>150305148 (OP)
This is literally powerpuff girls OC
Anonymous No.150305432 [Report]
I’d hate to say it but I really liked it
Anonymous No.150305449 [Report]
>>150305148 (OP)
sexy green man
Anonymous No.150305523 [Report]
>>150305351
How
Anonymous No.150306616 [Report] >>150307123
>>150305148 (OP)
What the fuck are you talking about this has no quality similar to Ralph Bakshi. Fuck you are stupid Pan. You want to look like Invader Zim mixed with Powerpuff Girls and have no idea how to pull that off, and your plot is a D-tier shonen series that makes no sense.
Anonymous No.150307123 [Report]
>>150306616
Bakshi was cheaper, crummier and inconsistent
Anonymous No.150307220 [Report] >>150307376 >>150308681 >>150321814
>>150305148 (OP)
Will this thread also be shitted up by actual schizos?
Anonymous No.150307286 [Report]
>>150305148 (OP)
>>150305191

Previous thread:
>>150263796

No, Pan I am not going to redesign and rewrite the show for you unless it's my own show. Bianca & Loki have to go or be rebooted into winners.
Everytime a Loki IRL thread pops up just hit Pan with these shows:

Hero Inside
Zenshu
Di-Gata Defenders
Megaman Battle Network
Huntik
Digimon
Ben 10
Son of Zorn
Cool World (movie, not Tv show)

Previous thread:
>>150263796
Anonymous No.150307362 [Report]
>>150305191
>that poster
STOP YOU'LL SUMMON HIM
Anonymous No.150307376 [Report]
>>150307220
That's every thread now though
Anonymous No.150307527 [Report] >>150307575 >>150308198 >>150308350 >>150308566 >>150309553 >>150309846 >>150310233 >>150325038
Ouch.
Anonymous No.150307575 [Report]
>>150307527
pan btfo
Anonymous No.150307759 [Report] >>150307772 >>150308248
You owe me $10 for this post, Pan.

1.
>So LokiIRL's world is actually The Matrix
>There's this cult group called the 4th wall where they think they're living in a simulation and the protagonist agrees with that worldview
Uh huh while that sounds interesting on paper there's some distinct differences that makes your idea shittier beyond the obvious stuff like you not being able to animate it.
Inside the matrix there are no robots, AI, etc. beyond agents that nobody knows about beyond the redpilled people. So the robot discovery comes off as genuinely chilling.
Also robots don't combine with humans in a transhumanist way like your comic/cartoon does... which by the way you have no idea that you wrote transhumanism stuff did you Pan? you redneck.

So how would the logic even go? Humans created cartoon characters and the cartoon characters took over the world and put every human in pods? What about the hybrids? Are cartoon characters specist against hybrids too just like humans are?
What do you imagine the real world Earth cartoon characters' vehicles, weapons, buildings to look like compared to the robots from the matrix? How do the real world cartoon characters differ from the computer simulation one? Are they extra big and eldritch? Are they Aku tier? How do the pods look like? Aku towers? normal beds? anvils and pianos? Are the humans strapped to pianos and fart cushions? are they strapped to Simpsons gag couches?

You do realize The Matrix is an actual cyberpunk hacker sci-fi world with emo imagery where the matrix itself looks and feels like a normal late 90s world and the Earth itself looks nothing like Blade Runner? You do realize people come for that, right? Not for the toon equivalent you'd see in Cool World, right? where everything looks like Tim Burton and Beetlejuice's backwoods with spiral roads and cheap looking buildings and the equivalent of surrealist paintings... such as Salvador Dali

2. to be continued
Anonymous No.150307772 [Report] >>150308006 >>150308248
>>150307759

2.

Many other shows like YuGiOh, Beyblade, BDaman did this whole parody shtick already and they got treated for what they were; funny parodies and toy commercials, you realize that, right, Pan?
AND IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN TIMES PHARAOHS USED TO PLAY CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES AND IN THE FUTURE WE PLAY CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES

IN B-DAMAN WHERE EVERYONE USES BALLS, THE EARTH IS ONE GIANT BALL READY TO BE FIRED LIKE A BULLET OR USED AS A SOCCER BALL OR BASKETBALL CAUSE THIS IS WHAT HUMANITY, THE WORLD, EVERYTHING REVOLVES ON. Also because this is the message and theme of the show.

AND IN ANCIENT TIMES SPINNING TOPS WERE PLAYED BY GRUG HIMSELF AND A GIANT SPINNING TOP CALLED A BEYBLADE ERASED THE EVIL DINOSAURS AND SPAWNED THE ULTIMATE BEYBLADE, THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF POWER OF THE BEYBLADE AND ALL SPIRIT ANIMALS. THANK YOU METEOR BEYBLADE, WE WORSHIP YOU.

AND IN SPY DOGS, DOGS INVENTED HUMANITY, DOGS INVENTED THE PYRAMIDS, DOGS INVENTED THE COLOSSEUM, DOGS RULES, HUMANS DROOL, MWHHAHHAHAHA *ahem the dog handed over a script* "Dog Zero says that under no circumstance will we see humans as pets neither enslave them despite being far more intellingent than them" "Huh I wonder who wrote that *shreds it* yeah fine whatever"

And same deal with cat-centered shows which aren't as many as dog shows, but still push for the "Our X are amazing, you faggot humans must kneel and BUY OUR TOYS, BUY OUR TOYS, BUY OUR FUCKING TOYS"
That's what people will treat your parody of The Matrix which you aren't even capable of making it entertaining.
I've seen protagonists who aren't the chosen ones or actively reject their chosen ones destiny such as Mothafuckaz and the movie was a 6/10, but compared to your pilot it's a 20/10.
Anonymous No.150308006 [Report] >>150308248 >>150310064 >>150310804
>>150307772
>What if I write it in an entertaining way?
You won't, Pan. You're obsessed with your misery porn revolving Bianca & Loki being jobbers and failures worse than Naruto.

>But what if I write it seriously?
You won't, Pan. Also at best you'd only attract teenagers into anime who believe anything and manchild weirdos. Just like Teen Titans 2000s

Writing funny TMNT cartoon characters seriously in a Kids Next Door and Fillmore way where you take even the most mundane thing and go edge edge donutsteel with it requires maturity which from Pan's behaviour he clearly lacks.
Like many Sonicfans yelled, no it isn't because your character looks like Blue Garfield or Blue Felix the Cat, it's because you can't take yourself seriously so you destroy any immersion.

You can absolutely go balls to the walls edge edge donutsteel regardless of your art style like many many many other people have did before with Mirage Turtles, Nine Sols (pic related), Kaiba and the list goes on.
But adults would rather see an adult than Recess Warriors, Recess, Fillmore even if you shove Ave Maria in Recess and the manchildren start going "See? see? it's mature!!" I am clearly seeing a cartoon character. Adults are just as shallow as manchildren who are obsessed with cartoon characters. You need a live action human to be taken seriously outside of teenagers and weirdos. That's why CGI is more popular than 2D, CGI/3D lends itself more to suspending your disbelief even if the writing sucks ass.
My parents accidentally watched Halo & Teen Titans simply because it had live action actors in it... and also because it was marketed as a serious sci-fi show among the many other shows they watch rather than a cartoon. The moment a show looks and acts too autistic and made for 14 year olds who want to see Hello Kitty punching Satan in the nose is the moment you lose your adult audience. Why does it have to be a cat in a pink dress and not a human in a suit?

That'll be $9.99 plus tax, Pan.
Anonymous No.150308198 [Report]
>>150307527
We were surprisingly nicer.
Anonymous No.150308248 [Report] >>150308276 >>150321449
>>150307759
>>150307772
>>150308006
tldr faggot lol
Anonymous No.150308256 [Report]
>>150305191
He has early 18th century facial phenotype, he just made the error of becoming obsessed with the 2000s instead.
Anonymous No.150308276 [Report]
>>150308248
$10 for the TL;DR, faggot.
Anonymous No.150308350 [Report]
>>150307527
>that last paragraph
Imagine being jealous of this>>150305191
Anonymous No.150308566 [Report]
>>150307527
I wonder who ended the golden age of indie animation LS Mark or Vivziepop
Anonymous No.150308681 [Report]
>>150307220
That's seemingly all there is to it at this point. 3 full threads of notes, revisions and comic reviews. Anything from now on is just pickmies convinced Pan is watching and want to be heard. The flaws outweigh the passion enjoyment wise so like Loki Irl in the past people will post about it and move on because of lack of content from the original source. And probably just go back to being a supporter of Pan's vids whenever they come out.

It's not a turd like some pilots where the animation is the best part but, it's not a hit pilot like Hazbin or TADC where people gush about the style and write their OC's into the world immediately. Which is seemingly the main selling point. People want high value concepts these days with the power vacuum network TV dying is leaving
Anonymous No.150309307 [Report] >>150309509 >>150310261
>>150305148 (OP)
So it's another attempt at a Roger Rabbit kind of situation again?
Anonymous No.150309509 [Report]
>>150309307
Essentially.
To be fair, Loki IRL would have been a fine Newgrounds/SLG comic back in the late 2000s. I like Pan and am impressed he actually got this out, but this missed its window of relevancy by a good decade.
Anonymous No.150309553 [Report] >>150313912
>>150307527
That is something a lot of the current youtube pilots have that I noticed. The whole
>reviews say stuff like "I'm so proud of you" rather than "This is a good cartoon."

Which is a lot of things lately, they just congratulate the creator for creating it, with no commentary on the cartoon being worth watching at all. Like the fact that it exists is all the merit is should need and existing is the only reason why it should be picked up by some big studio and made into a full series.

I really hate how the angry old boomers were right about the participation trophy generation.
Anonymous No.150309846 [Report] >>150311120 >>150311460 >>150311750 >>150313824 >>150321559
>>150307527
>More expensive than 99% of Newgrounds projects
This is what gets me.
Every online animation wants to be a "pilot" now
Anonymous No.150309872 [Report]
>>150305148 (OP)
no it doesn't have a ralph bakshi appeal
you faggot
Anonymous No.150310064 [Report]
>>150308006
>But adults would rather see an adult than Recess Warriors, Recess, Fillmore even if you shove Ave Maria in Recess and the manchildren start going "See? see? it's mature!!" I am clearly seeing a cartoon character. Adults are just as shallow as manchildren who are obsessed with cartoon characters. You need a live action human to be taken seriously outside of teenagers and weirdos. That's why CGI is more popular than 2D, CGI/3D lends itself more to suspending your disbelief even if the writing sucks ass.
Wasn't Stranger Things really popular for adults?
Anonymous No.150310078 [Report]
>>150305191
MODSSS

MOOOOOODSSSSSS
Anonymous No.150310233 [Report]
>>150307527
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with taking a minute at the beginning of a pilot to give a brief infodump on the show. Invader Zim’s pilot started with one and I’m sure theres others
Anonymous No.150310261 [Report]
>>150309307
Roger Rabbit as a battle shounen
Anonymous No.150310301 [Report] >>150314960
The viewcounts should not be this close for a pony video in 202X
Anonymous No.150310804 [Report]
>>150308006
>Recess Warriors,
If anyone from the storytime thread is here, I just wanted to post that the series was actually a webcomic under a different name originally uploaded in 2011 (which explains that one really dated reference near the end of the first book) before being published in 2017 as a graphic novel with a sequel released the same year
https://comicsastonish.com/2011/12/14/tales-of-armstrong/#more-360
https://web.archive.org/web/20111231155053/http://www.talesofarmstrong.com
Normally I post as much information as I could find after a storytime but I only found out about this now after the thread got archived (and the writer actually uses a pseudonym for his kids books so that's why I couldn't find things out right away)
Anonymous No.150311120 [Report] >>150311284 >>150311493 >>150311989 >>150313350 >>150313838 >>150313949
>>150309846
How long until indie creators start going bankrupt from this?
Anonymous No.150311284 [Report] >>150311750
>>150311120
Most of them pay out of pocket, so they'll just continue eating ramen and shilling merch until they have enough for episode 2, which might never happen.
Imagine the psycho who takes out a loan to finance their show.
Anonymous No.150311460 [Report]
>>150309846
I wish we got more 3-5 minute animated web series made by like 4 guys instead of these bloated indie showcases
Anonymous No.150311493 [Report] >>150311536 >>150317990
>>150311120
Honest question where do these spergs get all that money?
Anonymous No.150311536 [Report] >>150319529
>>150311493
Pan probably saved as much as he could from YT revenue.
Zeurel has a patreon that is actually bringing in a decent amount. He also sells plushies, does freelance work, and also gets some funding from Newgrounds for timed exclusivity.
Anonymous No.150311750 [Report] >>150311873 >>150318526 >>150326632
>>150309846
Hazbin hotel fucked over web animation. Now everyones spending 20k+ on a pilot in hopes of getting picked up and audiences expect high quality animation and won't accept anything less.
>>150311284
>Imagine the psycho who takes out a loan to finance their show.
I can't remember who it was exactly or what youtube video I was watching but some autist was using his credit card to pay voice actors, animators, etc. for an animation pilot that only got a couple thousand views.
Anonymous No.150311873 [Report]
>>150311750
> credit card
Good Lord.
I can admire having faith in your work, but that's just gambling with worse odds.
Anonymous No.150311989 [Report] >>150312230 >>150313847
>>150311120
Do you think we might head to a indie animation crash? same way the video game crash of 1983 or the dot com bubble of 2000 did
Anonymous No.150312230 [Report]
>>150311989
If YouTube keeps the censorship up, possibly
Anonymous No.150313350 [Report]
>>150311120
>implying they aren't already bankrupt before even releasing said pilots
Anonymous No.150313824 [Report] >>150317277
>>150309846
Do you think all the pressure of web communities saying someone "won" may be forcing that
Anonymous No.150313838 [Report]
>>150311120
Imagine spending 50k on a video that gets 100k views. Does it even make money back?
Anonymous No.150313847 [Report]
>>150311989
its not even indie with a budget like that. the problem is retards trying to convert indie into its own expensive industry.
Anonymous No.150313862 [Report]
>>150305191
He seriously reminds me of a Persian friend of mine, like the exact same autismo stare
Anonymous No.150313912 [Report]
>>150309553
I don’t know, on the one hand I do think it’s cool when someone is able to be creative and put enough effort and time into making a cartoon, but I definitely think actual criticism needs to be allowed so the artist can grow
Anonymous No.150313949 [Report]
>>150311120
I want zeurel to succeed, but fuck he needs to be more practical about this
>cut down eps to like 11mins, maybe 15
>don’t use super smooth animation all the time, still shots are fine, especially with good shading and coloring
Anonymous No.150314960 [Report]
>>150310301
MODS
Anonymous No.150315133 [Report]
>>150305191
Gyspy energy
Anonymous No.150316915 [Report] >>150321528
>>150305191
>all those plushies
I'm jealous
Anonymous No.150317277 [Report]
>>150313824
No. People are responsible for their own actions out side of internet gimme points. You really need experts outside of yourself to be balancing the books so you don't come up with an inflated budget and instead, cost cutting creative solutions that save money. Preferably ones that involve cutting work load rather than cutting workers ofc. You want just smart decisions but, make a wrong choice and you accidentally let a snake on board like the network crashers of old.

That's the big sore thumb imo is that when the money starts running dry we all have that "becoming our parents" moment with media. When things were simple and the internet was young you got people just spending off time, maybe 10 years making a TV length animation. Now because people want to get animated pilots done faster it means more money is needed faster, more workers, and then you get to the point of "why are they doing this?" They need someone to fix this. And that's how you got those skeevy feel up Hollywood types who ruined things for advertising worries in the past or THE MESSAGE lgbt pandering today that ruined art. The very thing that made internet animation so enticing was that you could get AWAY from that. In a short time we got to the Marvel movie budget problem. Bloated budgets for faster products of lesser quality with less rewards. A real spit in the face of all our egos but, the price of an internet based animation industry
Anonymous No.150317990 [Report] >>150319529
>>150311493
Zeurel does a ton of commission and freelance work and he usually launches a plushie with every episode
Anonymous No.150318419 [Report]
>>150305191
Anonymous No.150318526 [Report]
>>150311750
link to pilot?
Anonymous No.150318540 [Report] >>150318559 >>150321641
>>150305191
what happened to his old room with all the goth shit. that room rocked.
Anonymous No.150318559 [Report] >>150318657
>>150318540
He grew up
Anonymous No.150318657 [Report]
>>150318559
Kek
good one, anon
Anonymous No.150318732 [Report]
>>150305191
pizzabros… its over
Anonymous No.150319400 [Report] >>150320333 >>150320837
>>150305148 (OP)
I finally sat down to watch it.
The first 13 minutes is painful to watch. The animation isn't even the problem, the directing is genuinely baffling. I cannot believe someone who has made great videos for over a decade could shit out some of the most confusing cuts I've ever seen. Nothing flows. I can understand how the story is progressing, but I have to pay extra attention to keep on the story thread. It feels like it has been re-written multiple times, then had stuff hastily cut out or added back in with a general idea of what to do, but no cohesion. I haven't followed the development of this, was it on Kickstarter and he promised it to be 30 minutes long, or something? Some of the text on the screen is either miss timed, or intentionally flashes? A bit jarring either way. I nearly didn't make it to the 2nd half because first half is so shitty.
If I were going to pitch this anywhere, I would remove the first 13 minutes, because the latter half is genuinely good. Stakes are established, scenes flow into each other mostly naturally, some great jokes, and it shows off the unique art style in a positive light, instead of making a horrible first impression with the current intro.
The animation isn't perfect, some weird transitions here and there, Loki not opening his mouth when he talks is a bit awkward, but overall, it's pretty good. To my surprise, I even got chills during the fight. The fight scene was excellent, and while the music ain't to my taste, I thought it was utilized well here. Re-dub the two friend characters (red / purple brother and sister), fix up a few things, and he might have something great here.
I can only assume he got significantly better at animating as time went on, or he didn't animate the final section?
I like the designs of most of the girls, I want to have SEX with them.
Anonymous No.150319529 [Report] >>150325373
>>150311536
>>150317990
Do thousands people seriously buy all those plushies? I can't imagine the market being that hot enough that it keeps entire projects afloat... Lemme guess, it's mostly fujos, spergs and degenerates buying them?
Anonymous No.150320333 [Report]
>>150319400
Couldnt bear the first 13 but i skipped ahead like you said and it was pretty good
Anonymous No.150320828 [Report] >>150321129
>First few threads with overwhelmingly positive "reviews" despite /co/ largely memeing on Pan for the last several years for being a talentless faggot and hack
>next few threads are made
>overwhelmingly negative posts dominate the thread
>tons of talk about missed opportunities, ways that Pan fucked up his own concept, frustration at how poorly the pilot is written and how it does a profoundly shitty job at executing its own premise
>number of Loki IRL threads drop immediately after
>new thread
>still negative
So Pan tried to astroturf this shit as hard as possible on /co/, of all places, and then gave up when the microscopic userbase on this dead website didn't shoot him to a billion views, huh?
Anonymous No.150320837 [Report]
>>150319400
Any part of the pilot that looks good for any amount of time is likely animated by someone else entirely. Pan can barely draw and his animation skills are nonexistent, so he just threw money at other people and begged them to make stuff for him.
Anonymous No.150321129 [Report] >>150321529
>>150320828
4chan is genuinely one of the worst places to try astroturfing in.
We are usually alright to small creators that post their work, but anyone deemed too big that tries it will get A LOT of negative backlash.
Pan is juuust big enough to qualify.

I can't help but think that MAYBE he would have met better success trying to get his foot thru the door of the animation industry if he wasn't so focused on a single idea.
Every successful cartoon showrunner I know has tried several different pitches.
Don't pitch too much junk like Carozza but try and develop many ideas.
He already tried pitching this to CN. He already tried to generate buzz with animation. He already tried to generate interest with a webcomic. Etc.
Maybe it is time to archive this pitch and try and get something else running?
I don't think Loki is a winning idea.
Anonymous No.150321449 [Report] >>150321574
>>150308248
> The show is like the Matrix because I say so and it SUCKS because it's not like the Matrix.
It was a waste of brain electricity trying to decipher this shit.
Cartoon reviews should be the size of a tweet.
Anonymous No.150321528 [Report]
>>150316915
I don't see plushes of any cool characters. They look like generic dolls they stuff in claw machines
You're not one of those people who collects plushies just to satisfy their ddlg fetish, are you?
Anonymous No.150321529 [Report] >>150321666 >>150322041
>>150321129
Someone said something like this in a previous thread, but it really feels like Pan doesn't want to break into animation. He comes off as not genuinely interested in being an animator or a showrunner or a writer. He only wants to have something with Loki and Bianca made. He only cares about those two characters and everything else is just an annoying hurdle making animation and comics more of a chore. Just like with his art, he's trying to ignore and skip around everything he thinks he doesn't need to know, because he doesn't want to be a good artist, he just wants to draw these characters. He doesn't want to learn paneling and writing and perspective and everything else, he just wants to be able to do the exact, specific things he thinks he needs to achieve his goal of some kind of product with his OCs in it.
Anonymous No.150321559 [Report]
>>150309846
all these pilots and yet skibidi toilet still clears everything that isn't vivziepop or glitch
Anonymous No.150321574 [Report] >>150322456
>>150321449
Stupid fucking generation-Z with your piss poor reading comprehension. Read a book, nigger. You owe me $10.

TL;DR
Pan said he wants his world design to be like The Matrix
Anon points out The Matrix is all theme that makes it good and Pan's show lacks that theme. Bugs Bunny cannot replace AI robots.

Anon goes on to say Pan can do The Matrix with cartoon characters, but it he can't be entertaining nor serious and even if it was then adults wouldn't take it seriously nor find it entertaining-
-just like cartoon lovers do not find live-action interesting and entertaining over cartoons.
Anonymous No.150321641 [Report]
>>150318540
I still don't think it's him but, he did move out of his parents house in Texas to Chicago to live with a trans boyfriend. They post about it on twt, he seems pretty miserable to not be in Texas anymore
Anonymous No.150321666 [Report]
>>150321529
This.
Anonymous No.150321814 [Report]
>>150307220
Pan is an e-celeb so yes, there will be a-logging
Anonymous No.150322041 [Report] >>150322089
>>150321529
Man, I just can't understand the autistic focus that makes a guy lock onto a character in his teens and never lets go.

Loki is very obviously a dated highschool sketchbook concept.
SURELY even by accident he should have experienced enough varied media to make any normal person realize that concept was a half-baked youthful idea.
Anonymous No.150322089 [Report]
>>150322041
If Pan were less of a terrible autist, there might even be an interesting story in there about taking a lame, edgy, wannabe badass character an artist drew as a kid, and trying to redeem him into a genuinely cool character through hard work and practice and trying to understand what actually makes a character good... But no, Pan is retarded, and the twist is that Loki actually is super fucking powerful and unbelievably bad ass, and he could literally kill everybody, but he fights "fair" by not using his real powers, and by making obvious mistakes that everyone naturally uses against him, because that's how fighting works.
Anonymous No.150322451 [Report] >>150322592 >>150324153
Anonymous No.150322456 [Report] >>150324043
>>150321574
I only read books that are well-written, so I'm out of practice sorting through the scattered notes of a madman throwing a tantrum because a mediocre cartoon's creator said it was "like the Matrix" at some point, but it wasn't like the Matrix in the way the madman thinks it should be.
El Barto No.150322470 [Report] >>150322696 >>150323142 >>150325405
>>150305271
used to, at least:
Anonymous No.150322592 [Report]
>>150322451
Does he have no honest friends to tell him how much this does not work at all?
Anonymous No.150322696 [Report]
>>150322470
He thinks he really cooked with that Reggie design. It's just not that good, pushed the horns into the head shape so much not only do they not even read as horns, it doesn't even read that she has eyes
Anonymous No.150323142 [Report] >>150323205 >>150323207 >>150324088 >>150326076
>>150322470
Your picture looks absolutely nothing like >>150305191.
But then I see images like picrel and he doesn't look like either of them.
How is this fucker's face completely different in every photo I've seen of him?
Are people just taking photos of other people and claiming it's him?
Anonymous No.150323205 [Report] >>150323412
>>150323142
Haven't you heard of a haircut or growing facial hair or a different pair of glasses?
Anonymous No.150323207 [Report] >>150323412
>>150323142
Your pic actually does kinda look like >>150305191, or to me at least
Anonymous No.150323228 [Report] >>150323329
I think it would be cool if the woman fought a guy whos irl is literally himself. If you really want to push it, you could make his entire family be clones of himself.
Anonymous No.150323329 [Report] >>150323334
>>150323228
>draws IRL of myself
>challenge a girl to a baggls
>proceed to rotoscope myself in battle raping her IRL OC
Anonymous No.150323334 [Report]
>>150323329
>battle*
Anonymous No.150323412 [Report]
>>150323207
>>150323205
I suppose the eyes are consistent.
I just can't rotate this particular apple in my mind, even trying to account for hair and glasses. He is an incomprehensible geometry
Anonymous No.150323673 [Report] >>150326027
This would be a cool pilot if it was made by one guy. But the character art looks bad, the plot being about social media turns me off instantly, and I don't care about the characters. BG art and the inbetween bumpers are neat.
Anonymous No.150324043 [Report]
>>150322456
>I only read books that are well-written
You mean your My Little Pony fanfiction, gen-Z?
Anonymous No.150324088 [Report]
>>150323142
Why would believe in a random picture?
Anonymous No.150324153 [Report]
>>150322451
look at the head on that bitch
Anonymous No.150325038 [Report]
>>150307527
oof, they did not hold back AT ALL
Anonymous No.150325373 [Report]
>>150319529
I think it's only somewhere between 1000 and 500. Also it doesn't keep the whole project afloat, it maybe funds a few thousand.
Anonymous No.150325405 [Report]
>>150322470
Whitest Mexican I've ever seen
Anonymous No.150326027 [Report] >>150326505 >>150327359 >>150327374 >>150334708
>>150323673
>BG art and the inbetween bumpers are neat
100%. I've been saying for a while now that Pan's strongsuit is in background art. Throw in a little more study, and he'd be able to land a position on a cartoon with stylized art direction no sweat. I am bummed out to see Loki IRL's editing be so amateurish, though. I expect better from him.
Anonymous No.150326076 [Report] >>150326571
>>150323142
Pan seems like one of those people that get better looking as they get older. Like they have to grow into their weird face.
Anonymous No.150326505 [Report]
>>150326027
Pan should consider submitting his work for backgrounds to people. Make a portfolio site with that separate. If this doesn't take off he could really make a pretty penny with that and still get his name attached to some projects. Even Max G. was able to work on modern SpongeBob eventually, controversies and all for his work he brought to the table
Anonymous No.150326571 [Report]
>>150326076
That's a pretty kind thing to say. I agree. His nose isn't big and his jaw is pretty defined so as the skin gets thinner his features will map out pretty nicely.
Anonymous No.150326632 [Report]
>>150311750
>Now everyones spending 20k+ on a pilot in hopes of getting picked up and audiences expect high quality animation and won't accept anything less.
i don't want to be a magical girl showed otherwise, which was majority storyboards with dialogue and minimal animation
Anonymous No.150327359 [Report]
>>150326027
He'd be perfect for the Braceface reboot
Anonymous No.150327374 [Report] >>150327914
>>150326027
Are the backgrounds actually done by him? There's such a huge gulf in quality between the stuff Pan did himself and the stuff other people did for him, that I'm wary of praising anything good about this pilot as Pan's work, when it might actually be someone else carrying his talentless ass.
Anonymous No.150327914 [Report] >>150328386 >>150329127
>>150327374
It is. He did 80% of the work himself out of pure figuring it out on the spot. The animated sasuga from other artists is still done on his backgrounds
Anonymous No.150328386 [Report] >>150329127
>>150327914
>80% of the work himself
He did a lot less than that
Anonymous No.150329127 [Report]
>>150327914
>>150328386
WAYYYYY less than that I'm sure.
Anonymous No.150329638 [Report]
>>150305148 (OP)
I can't lie, those limited animations he did for his videos 8 years ago looked pretty good. His avatar is like his one good original design.
Anonymous No.150329643 [Report] >>150333403
I'd ask Pizza-Boy to talk about N.E.R.D.S., but reading a book might kill him.
Anonyrnous No.150331049 [Report] >>150339377
Loki IRL was... certainly a pilot.
Anonymous No.150331254 [Report] >>150332026
>>150305148 (OP)
Comparing this to Bakshi is like comparing beanmouth to bauhaus
Anonymous No.150332026 [Report] >>150334742
>>150331254
In English please.
Anonymous No.150333403 [Report] >>150336928
>>150329643
Would love a modern cartoon that looks this stylish, I'd be all over that shit
Anonymous No.150334708 [Report]
>>150326027
I can hear the PS2 game's screen music so clearly
Anonymous No.150334742 [Report] >>150335784
>>150332026
Comparing this to Bakshi is like comparing beanmouth to bauhaus
Anonymous No.150335784 [Report]
>>150334742
Ah, I understand now.
Anonymous No.150336928 [Report]
>>150333403
The art inside the books is pretty fantastic as well. Check this drawing of ol' Heathcliff Hodges, the boy with mind-control nanites in his braces.
Anonymous No.150339042 [Report]
>>150305191
Queer Icon Pan
Anonymous No.150339377 [Report] >>150340742
>>150331049
yeah that shit came and went like a stinky fart
sometimes you just gotta let it out
Anonymous No.150340742 [Report]
>>150339377
uhoh stinkyyy