Thread 150642366

I just watched it, and while Steven does embarass himself quite often, it was a very fun watch.

Future is better than seasons 3-5

steven turning into a giant penis monster and running away from his problems like his mother did soured it

Steven becomes terrible so quickly you can't believe he's the same character

>>150642440
I feel like it was fairly reasonable that he was feeling so lost. And some of his worst decisions were backed by his role models, like his dad, and Ruby/Sapphire. They were all enabling him.

>>150642366 (OP)
chuds are not people

>>150642366 (OP)
Good show dragged down by the need to return to status quo townie filler episodes which felt a lot worse than they actually were because there six month hiatuses between them when the show was actually airing.

>>150642366 (OP)
The target audience for the original Stephen University hates feeling anything and this show had very raw and realistic teenage angst. I'm not gonna lie, I loved it. Too bad it's woke and satanic because it had a lot going for it.

>>150643434
I was pretty upset at myself for tearing up at episode 19 after he reverts and starts crying. And then I wondered, why am I upset for having feelings. Maybe anons are the same...we need to work through our feelings, together!

>>150642366 (OP)
Not enough Peridot

>>150643434
>Too bad it's woke and satanic
mate, it's fucking steven universe. I don't know how you even got that far.

>>150642366 (OP)
for quite the opposite reason as most people, the first 2 seasons were good and had a much more vibrant artstyle with a good sense of mystery and magic realism

>>150643953
forgot pic

>>150642366 (OP)
honestly? sugar should have gone to [as] for su and suf.
also write the entire story and just have only animators make the damn show.

>>150643953
>>150643972
God season 1 was an entirely different series. I honestly miss this.

>>150643434
>they ruined my faggot teenage feelingslop melodrama with WOKE
lmao

>>150644162
because it was a western shonen mixed with dyke shit in a good way.
we saw so many new locations and fantastical gem beast...

>>150643953
This, after Jailbreak the tone of the series changed quite a bit. I feel like this isn't a unique problem to SU though, any story that uncovers a mysterious world/setting as it goes on often doesn't live up to the "mystery" of the first Act. The Diamonds acting like rich and out of touch aunt instead of otherwordly beings and any episodes in space not feeling even close to as magical or eerie as S1 episodes was a letdown. As much as I enjoyed Peridot her quick transformation from jaded cog to fandom gremlin and then toxic college roomies with Lapis just felt self-indulgent on the writers' part. Don't even get me started with Lapis either.

>>150644279
by sheer irony, the fandom of this show is living up and even surpassing the season 1 of SU.
look at steven auniverse comic or that black pearl comic, shit is good.

>>150643335
Stfu and kys trannyfaggot

>>150644360
I read the black pearl comic
Edgy Op Oc

Why are they like this?

>>150642366 (OP)
>full of cheap and repetitive melodrama that doesn't make sense half the time
>creators are too lazy and/or lack the balls to actually detail out the plot and tard wrangle the storyboarders who would rather write coffee shop fanfiction
>tries to raise the stakes and expand on the universe, gives up and goes back to the protagonist wasting episode after episode playing doctor for the same groups of background characters
>fails to deliver the message of "no real bad guys" in a believable way after showing the antagonists to be genocidal powertripping maniacs who are deeply despised by the supporting cast for years
>blows budget on singer cameos that do no singing, animation sucks shit as the result
the damage control on social media was kinda funny though. picrel is evergreen.

>>150642366 (OP)
People did like it. And then some really annoying people liked it. And then some even more annoying people made hating it their entire personality.

>>150644797
what I loved about the comic is how in tune with season 1 it was, the worldbuilding was insane and the diamonds were flawlessly portrayed.

>>150646017
I wish I had a tiny lady I could dress up in cute ways too. It's not fair.

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven's mental break needed more episodes. It begins and gets resolved way too fucking quickly. Especially Kaiju Steven.

>>150646354
Really? His mental break starts from episode 1, I think you're misremembering. He talks with Amethyst in a really defeated way on how he has to help everyone, she tells him he can't fix the whole workd, he agrees, but then ignores her advice and goes to fix Jasper, and then gets incredibly mad at her and loses control of his powers for the first time. It was the plot from ep 1 all the way to the end.

>>150644657
See what I mean?

I don't Even like the show but this was a fucking humiliation ritual, Steven acts like a sperg through the entirety of it and nothing cool happens, he just gets mad at the gems and his dad, then he drives off from Beach City for some reason

>>150647080
I see that you are a faggot who’s should be killed

>>150643745
Unironically my 'tistic niece made me watch it with her.

>>150644188
I didn't say they ruined it anon. I know it was always like that. It being woke was what prevented it from being good.

>>150644657
Gtfo and you first grannysperg tourist
>>150647778
and we see that you are a sperg who keeps crying and crying is not an option.

>>150647080
No?
SU was garbage btw

>>150642366 (OP)
There wasn't enough Blue, so viewers went into Blue Withdrawal and became cranky.

>>150642366 (OP)
Because its all fagshit all the time.

>>150649054
What's so special about Blue?

>>150649564
Blue makes you happy.

>>150642366 (OP)
>Why did people not like it?
Because it's written by women and it shows.

>>150648187
And being a faggot isn’t either

>>150645256
>creators are too lazy and/or lack the balls to actually detail out the plot and tard wrangle the storyboarders who would rather write coffee shop fanfiction
It will never not be absolute pottery that staff did to Sugar on SU exactly what Sugar and co. did to Adventure Time.

>>150642366 (OP)
Its troon propaganda

>>150650261
Which part specifically?

>>150650627
The one in his head

>>150650627
The Shep episode?

>>150650261
Because one episode had one non-binary character?

>>150642366 (OP)
The good
>Actually portrayed Steven's breakdown gradually
>Didn't cuck out with Jasper
>Blue Diamond got her own song and was a fucking babe every time they animated her like damn
>The main Crystal Gem trio gets fleshed out one last time in some nice subtle ways

The bad
>Wasted time on totally irrelevant plots even though they only had a limited number of episodes to work with
>Painted Greg as an asshole kind of out of nowhere
>Steven went full fucking retard with Connie like holy shit she was down to bang before you pulled that marriage shit
>Kaiju Steven was a lame conclusion

>>150650658
sheep?

>>150651686
nah the chaaaps episode

>>150642366 (OP)
Because Steven is an annoying faggot, otherwise it's ok.

>>150642366 (OP)
Same reason The Dinosaur wasn't too good. Director didn't push enough on their own.

>>150642366 (OP)
Fag indoctrination propaganda disguised as a kid's show
>townie episodes

>>150642366 (OP)
>Why did people not like it?
As an epilogue series, fans didn't like that it was generally more mundane than the original Steven Universe series, which is funny since this had some of the best balancing of Gem stuff with grounded Townie stuff.

I looove seeing superpowered characters doing their own twist on mundane everyday activities--think Miles Morales changing out of his spideysuit in the stairwell at the start of his second movie--and SU Future had loads of that stuff. It was just a cool way of exploring how lived-in this world felt after 160 episodes, and I also found Steven's identity crisis engaging.

>>150642366 (OP)
Because

>>150651686
baaaaah

>>150642393
Honestly yeah, I feel like they did more fun stuff with the gems and humans in Future.

>>150642366 (OP)
Because sugar is sweet but laced with poison.

Shes the kind of woman that should be heard but put in her place when she gets over zealous.

>>150650215
And being a sperg isn’t either

>>150642366 (OP)
There's no pleasing SU fans.

>>150650627
All of it

>>150652022
"The Dinosaur"?

>>150642366 (OP)
Not enough Pearl

>>150642366 (OP)
I liked seeing Steven a little older dealing with post-war stuff, but it was pretty mid and ruined the happy ending we had after the movie.
And I'll never forgive them for killing Greg's hair.

>>150655569
>and ruined the happy ending we had after the movie
If you really feel that way, then you missed the lesson they waved right in front of you. There is no objective "happy ending." Life continues, and with that comes more battles to face with your friends, family, and loved ones. I was very content with SU Future as an epilogue, especially the ending where it's shown Steven still has to work on himself.

>>150655641
Sure I get all that. But that doesn't make the melancholy ending more satisfying.
And the fact that Steven leaves all his friends at the end runs contrary to the message that you're gonna face everything together.
Sure, he didn't exactly leave them. He had plans to stay in touch or whatever. But that's what it felt like.

>>150655704
>the fact that Steven leaves all his friends at the end runs contrary to the message that you're gonna face everything together
See that's a fair complaint. Still, the main conflict of Future was STEVEN'S internal struggles. He felt as though he had to face his issues alone, but by the end of it, he realizes his dad and his girlfriend and his Gem family will always be there when he needs some help. Steven just needed to get out of his own head to see what was around him the whole time.

>>150655569
Poor Greg didn't deserve that...

>>150655704
I don't think that's the message. I think it would be silly to teach people to always rely on others to live your life. When things get really bad, they will be there to help, but Steven needs to learn to live his own life too

>>150655641
>>150655704
I thought what they were going for in Future was fine considering Steven really did stomach way too much bullshit for a 14 year old, but the way it was resolved was just naive, for lack of a better word. The resolution of Steven's breakdown with everyone suddenly realizing the error of their ways, apologizing to him in order, and then doing a group hug felt like it was written by someone who wasn't finished with all of the therapy work they needed to come to terms with their emotionally neglectful parents. It came off as self-indulgent on the writer's side because if you've been in therapy long enough you know that seeking those apologies in the first place (that may never come) is the wrong way to approach healing. It comes off as badly written as Encanto's ending where the grandma suddenly realizes the error of her ways after being a menace for DECADES and is suddenly emotionally mature and self-aware enough to gently apologize to Mirabel for being shit to her. I guess you can say it's passable for a kid's show but Future was already tackling complicated PTSD shit that kids can barely understand in the first place.

Making sweet, sweet, PASSIONATE love to Pearl!!

So are Rebecca and Ian breaking up? She put out that song and it seems like there's trouble in paradise.

>>150642366 (OP)
It becomes a lot better if you imagine this as a cautionary tale on why same-sex couples shouldn't raise kids.

>>150658617
Go on, elaborate

Why was Steven so cucked here?

>>150655867
The whole proposal thing felt out of character as well. Steven was a bit isolated from human customs but he would know not to just ask someone to marry him like that and fuse forever. Especially if he didn’t even ask her to be his gf at that point. I mean he has Greg and goes to him for advice on stuff regularly. He would have definitely explained his idea to him and he would have been like “woaaahh there Stuball, this is a big step. You’ve gotta take these things slow.”

>>150658699
>what is teenage angst and raging hormones
The whole point was that Steven was "acting out-of-character" because this was his first time truly dealing with the trauma and emotions he'd been bottling up the entire series. That came out in questionable ways, one of which being the proposal and clingy attachment to Connie after realizing all his human friends were moving on with their lives in "Little Graduation."

With the power of Peridot, I beam this thread straight to page 1

>>150658694
Where?

>>150642366 (OP)
>golly gosh!
>I'm a little bit older and more mature now!
>wow good for you Steven!
>OH MY GOD I HAVE SO MUCH ANXIETY AND PTSD AND MENTAL ILLNESS I AM NOT OKAY I NEED TO DO THERAPY OH NO I'M A MONSTER NOW WHICH IS A NEW POWER THAT I ALSO HAVE
>anyways now that we've sorted that all out, I've decided for no clear reason at all that the solution to all of my problems is to get in a van and drive away from all of my friends, family, and loved ones. This is a healthy thing that Millennial urbanites do and it certainly isn't an expression of the mentally ill writers' unresolved trauma in their own lives
>the end

Lapis during Alone at Sea: “I'm really trying to enjoy it out here, but... I can't stop thinking about being fused as Malachite, how I used all my strength to hold her down in the ocean, and how I was always battling against Jasper to keep her bound to me.”
>Literally the last time we see Malachite on screen:

>>150660977
>This is a healthy thing that Millennial urbanites do
This but unironically

>>150662518
Stfu trannyfaggot

>>150662540
No, I don't think I will

>>150659531
No it fucking wasn’t. Steven dealt with shit before and he would usually go to his dad or someone else to talk. He would know he can rely on other people and it’s not like he was completely isolated while he was gone.

>>150646135
go buy a barbie doll. now it is fair.

>>150654938
Sorry I completely forgot and omitted 'good'. I meant the "The Good Dinosaur."

>>150662639
Then kys

>>150663164
No, I don't think I will

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven Universe was molten garbage all the way through.
I have no reason to believe this will be any different.

>>150663237
seethe

>>150663264
Make a better show Becky

>>150663276
I'm actually Zuke

>>150663391
Then make better storyboards

>>150663537
I did, that's why Becky wanted me out

>>150642366 (OP)
Partially because every ending this series got was worse than the previous ending.

>>150644360
>>150644797
It's been a while since it last updated weekly. I hope Revolver_d is doing alright

>>150663549
Wrong you fag

>>150663807
seethe

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven Universe
>teenager
>shapeshifter
>quasi immortal
>can resurrect the dead as quasi immortal/immortal revenants
>first and only male of an all female alien race
>part of the ruling class of that race
>could’ve subjugated humanity using threat of the Cluster

Steven should’ve gone full assed Leto Atreides II and turned into a worm/penis monster declared himself god emperor of both gems and humanity and vented his sexual frustration on various gems and human women, trapping Connie in a Duncan Idaho-esque cycle of being fucked to death and resurrection, his throne would just be Blue Diamond’s ass, like you come into the throne room and he emerges from her asshole in the form of giant pink penis worm, then pulls back the foreskin concealing his head and begins demanding Connie be brought to him for her daily “training”

>>150664510
I second the motion.
Because these characters deserve to suffer. The messed up sex stuff I can take or leave.

>>150664510
I have questions
>Emerges from Blue’s ass in the form of a penis monster
Do Blue and Yellow go ass to ass using Steven or use him as a double dildo/strap on?
Does Steven fuck Connie to death by trying to shove himself inside her and ends up rupturing her body or dies he manifest dozens of tentacle dicks with his shapeshifting powers like some japanman fetish shit and she just expires from exhaustion before he reanimates her?

>>150642366 (OP)
At the time of airing, people felt let down by a steady decline in quality after an impressive peak at the end of season 1 (this was back before 4chan hated lesbians so that wasn't an issue on this board at the time). The finale of the whole series also was very rushed, for which the movie and sequel series didn't compensate at all. There were also a lot of complaints about "filler" townie episodes, which I always thought was a sign of a short attention span, but they did have a point: in season 1, every townie episode involved gem stuff in some way and so contributed to the dripfeed of foreshadowing. Later episodes were more often Steven just screwing around with humans without contributing very much beyond side character development. Aforementioned dripfeed also set up expectations that could never be met, since what people imagine based on little hints is always going to be cooler than what a show actually provides in the end. That's a little charitable, too - the show seemed to quickly lose any single unifying creative direction. I can easily believe it could have been great with a firmer hand on the rudder.

That, or too many soft bois, homos and talking about feelings, which some people are allergic to.

>>150664510
You know anon I suspect you might not have actually read Dune

>>150664869
k

the thing about SU is that Rebecca Sugar is an incredibly gifted writer, artist, musician and worldbuilder, but she is not a showrunner. Most of the show's failures stem from her inability to say no to any of the storyboarders she hired off tumblr. However, it's still pretty good despite all of that, somehow, and even the rushed ending doesn't come out of nowhere or anything like the AT one did. The Townieslop hurts a lot less when you're watching it all on streaming too

>>150666158
Rebecca's annoying because she's not actually a bad person but I can't stand her.

What happened to Steven after he fled Beach City?

>>150666158
Shes not a show runner. Shes the cute mousey one who helps around the studio with good ideas. And disappears into the office if the frequently angry 6 foot tall head writer for an hour only to emerge stinking if sex glowing and walking funny.
Or has dusty knees after shes called in to discuss things with the animation director.
Shes indispensable for a project but never allowed any actual power because shell be taken advantage of.

>>150666214
he got raped

>>150667103
by Greg

>>150666434
Could you please repeat your point without the incomprehensible lunatic shit? We don't all live in your head.

>>150662518
Only if you have a terrible abusive relationship with everyone in your life, but unless you actually address that problem, then that shit will just follow you wherever you go. Running away and pretending like getting away from a place will make the problems that exist inside of you go away is childish thinking and shows that now actual growth of maturing has taken place.

>>150659531
>because this was his first time truly dealing with the trauma and emotions he'd been bottling up the entire series.
The entire fucking series before future was Steven constantly crying about, confronting, and overcoming his emotions and trauma you dishonest retard.

>>150666158
>the thing about SU is that Rebecca Sugar is an incredibly gifted writer,
She isn't. Her best ideas are stolen from Transformers, DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Utena and none of them are developed or recontextualized well enough to actually become a truly original and unique set of stories.

>>150667155
Megabased

>>150667155
A woman named Greg

Do you think he took a plane to Sheepstein's island?

>>150642366 (OP)
Shapeshifted himself into a futa, and whored himself out at truck stops and currently pregnant with someone’s bastard

Steven then died from AIDS
The end

>>150663168
HAH millennial what does it feel to know you're the worst generation that ever walked the earth aside from boomers?

>>150664061
Go to bed

Would have rather had a show about Steven building era 3 with his family and friends.

>>150645256
Literally this. I remember Blue Diamond's first reveal during Garnet's flashback and all the cool theories and fanfic about Yellow and Blue Diamond's courts, how they treat their gems, the types of gems they employ, the mystery of white diamond, that temple with what looked like Pink Diamond being shattered, etc.

And then the show just completely drops all the gem worldbuilding a season later. The magic/mythical element from the first season is gone, they shat the bed expanding on the sci-fi elements, the new gem designs gradually got more basic and ugly, and homeworld itself looked like absolute garbage.

>>150672550
Anytime I think about it, I always end up going on a nostalgic trip to look at all the fanfic and fan art over the course of the show's run, and looking back at how amazing it was and (back then) thinking the show would do even better, it now all seems so surreal how little of a shit Sugar and her crew gave about anything besides the main gems and those annoying ass townies.

I still fully believe that the gem lore was just Rebecca Sugar's bait and switch to get people to watch her androgynous, colorful blobs dick around in le comfy beach town

>>150670531
Just undo the fusion

>>150672741
Too easy

>>150642366 (OP)
This cartoon sucks

>>150642366 (OP)
/co/ is legitimately the only group I saw get mad at the ending. They really wanted Steven to stay in Beach City forever and were acting like him temporarily moving away was like he was being banished.

>>150673856
It's a non-solution and a non-resolution to a problem they invented for this series because they had a single idea (Kaiju Steven)

Don't they think it might be a little irresponsible to even allow Steven to leave on his own? He went through a stressful situation and in response turned into a giant fucking monster. Sure, he can say he's totally good now and his issues are resolved, but imagine Steven getting into a road rage incident or some other stressful conflict? Can we really say with 100% certainty that Steven won't relapse and accidentally Jasper some random asshole? I don't HATE the ending mind you, but it feels pretty short-sighted and dangerous to let the kid who just turned into a city destroying monster go on a solo road trip.

>>150673944
>because they had a single idea

That's pretty much Sugar's entire creative process right there. She comes up with a starting idea, and then has no fucking clue where to go with it. She comes up with an ending idea, and has no fucking clue how to get there. In either case she mostly just bumbles about or lets other people fuck around until she gets bored and just has shit stop.

>>150674086
It's because Sugar's writing bias leans toward "OC" and shipping content. When OC writers make shows it's evident because those tend to have grand aspirations for some large overarching narrative and worldbuilding, but their habit of hyperfocusing on character moments gets in the way, leading to half-assed story beats and worldbuilding. See any of Vivziepop's works. It always shows when writers don't respect the actual writing and research that needs to go into their ambitious projects to pull them off.

>>150668957

Nah. There is absolutely a super sharp divide in Steven's character before and after the episode the Test where he sees the anxieties the other gems are having and from then on, tries his best to project confidence around them.

>>150643733
She had an entire episode dedicated for her. She should've had MORE.

>>150673829
and fucks

>>150672550
>>150672579
Fan theory posting and world building will always be more interesting because what could be is always more interesting than what is.

>>150673829
>>150674470
in that order?

>>150674415
EXACTLY. She was one of the most popular characters despite having way less screen time than the main cast, she should have joined them and given more episodes when she became a crystal gem

>>150674168
And yet he still constantly talks about and centers every episode on his feelings.

>>150642366 (OP)
cool logo

>>150674415
It was a crime that we never saw a Peridot fusion. They even teased us by having her do the fusion dance with Garnet. I'll never forgive them.

>>150675343
Agreed, Peridot should have fused at least once

>>150675343
she's asexual, sorry chud

>>150675592
I can't believe Steven fucked his dad

>>150642366 (OP)
The main problem is it's half excellent and half really shitty.
The good episodes are REALLY good and the bad episodes are REALLY bad.
On a rewatch I literally skip like half the episodes and can still follow the plot perfectly.

>>150642366 (OP)
>Why did people not like it?
Because YouTubers who got filtered by the main series told them to. Next question.

>>150642366 (OP)
Trannies hated it.
Because they are incapable of enjoying anything. Much like they couldn't enjoy the body they were born in.

>>150676283
Stfu

>>150676305
>SU fan calling anyone a fag

>>150642366 (OP)
They cut a season off the real show and completely rushed the ending, then put out a season of epilogue. Why do you think people didn't like it?

>>150676349
Takes one to know one, after all

>>150674625
fan theory and worldbuilding is what kept the fan base alive during the droughts, and honeslty it's those periods of the show I liked the best, there is such a thing as explaining too much and I can't wait for lars of the stars to be more of that!!111

>>150676516
Nope

>>150676949
Yup, sorry but you are a certified homo now

>>150676967
Where would one go to get this certificate? Asking for a friend

>>150677097
Just go to the nearest gas station and ask for a faggot certificate

>>150677134
I tried that but the oral exam was really tough

>>150676297
Gtfo

>>150677306
Yolo
Dmv

>>150677383
fr fr no cap unc

>>150676283
>some YOUTUBER did it!
Or they watched the show and hated it, you disingenuous faggot. Not everyone is an illiterate zoomer who needs opinions fed to them like you do.

Steven could kill you in a fight

>>150678188
A large dog could kill me in a fight, I'm not sure how it's relevant

>>150678188
cool

>>150677580
Based zoomer

>>150642366 (OP)
It should've been the final season to tie all loose ends. Not cause some bullshit drama in Steven's life. Damn fuck, we SHOULD'VE had an episode for Centipeetle/Nephrite, Steven's first gem healed but we got drama instead.

>>150682559
Exactly. Should have been about what happens to the Gempire and what happens to Earth after all the fighting has stopped. Healing every corrupted Gem. Fixing the damage their Gempire did to the universe. Instead it's new drama with no real ending, because they were probably desperate enough to believe that there'd be another season any day now that they'd need more material for, so they couldn't just fully end it.

>>150678188
I never claimed otherwise.

>>150642366 (OP)
Are we still talking about SU?

>>150678188
This is a fantasy character of a tiny queer woman i could kill if I go balls deep

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven's mental breakdown was great, but the way it's resolved with a stupid group hug is just... embarrassing.

>>150685661
Occasionally.

>>150642366 (OP)
Because the show was not good

>>150673944
>It's a non-solution and a non-resolution
Well yeah, Steven can't magically get better, that's not how healing works. The kaiju was just for the sake of throwing some stakes into a cartoon show.

>>150686570
Says you.

>>150658432
Pretty sure it's about a toxic old flame. Ian & Rebecca are as dandy as pumpkin pie

>>150686589
>of course the ending isn't an ending and the problem it created isn't resolved!
That's retarded.

>>150676501
See >>150676283

>>150683342
I still don't think Era 3 will work out in the long run. Like yeah individuality is cool and all, but gems are literally built for specific roles and to be mostly identical. They then subsist off stripping planets of their resources, otherwise they can't reproduce.

Now, how do you fix this? Well, clearly gems must be a republic, because that works on earth for humans. They also need to stop reproducing, because that's bad. Even though they apparently haven't encountered life up until humanity.

You'd be retarded if you said any of this about termites, btw.

>>150691002
oh my stars...

>>150642366 (OP)
>Why did people not like it?
Orb in forehead is too disturbing for recurring milf character.

>>150691565
Clod!

>>150642366 (OP)
>embarass
dumbass

>>150691033
If termites had sapient minds they should probably be a republic. If termites could only reproduce by exterminating sapient world they probably shouldn't do that. If you had a brain you should probably come up with valid arguments. I don't hate what you're saying, just that you're such a stupid shit. Please do better.

>>150692363
Steven, I know you think turning Homeworld into the USA will work, but you are laughably naive and arguing in the favor of simple ethics. I'm not going to vomit a wall of text to show you the various ways in which you are wrong, as usual, but if you pay attention to the show longer than three minutes, you will quickly note just how thoroughly and unintentionally it demolishes it's own message of Gem individuality.

Go back to your cuck car, Steven.

>>150691737
kek

>>150642366 (OP)
season 5 finale and the movie finale both had satisfactory endings. The Future ending just did not hit that same emotional high. It was like "the journey continues", except with a lot of unresolved feelings, possibly a sequel bait, except there were no concrete plans whatsoever.

So fuck off, Sucrose. Couldn't just fucking tie this series in a neat bow and move on to something else.

>>150694147
>Couldn't just fucking tie this series in a neat bow and move on to something else.
To be fair, SU is the biggest success of her life

>>150691033
Easy. Most gems will end up following their old roles by choice which will keep things stable. But this time people will have the freedom to branch out if they want.
They can still strip planets for new gems. Just leave the ones with life alone.
Also they don't really NEED new gems since they're immortal. The only reason they're doing it is to expand the empire.

>>150694913
Gems are programmed to naturally like their original roles

>>150642366 (OP)
My main criticism is them going too far on the Steven Trauma .It was good that it was adressed since Garnet , Pearl and Amethyst disregarded his issues a lot of the times and made him suffer for their own but they made it too much .

>>150650683
>>Painted Greg as an asshole kind of out of nowhere

That was more Steven being retarded and in his breakdown lashing out at Greg for not doing things he objectively could not have done within the context .How the hell could he have enrolled Steven into a Public School ? .He gave him the largest degree of normalcy his Gem nature allowed , especially within a tiny seaside town where the inhabitants are also a bit weird .

Steven was just bitching at that moment .

Here we are in the future

>>150642366 (OP)
I miss watching season 1 and 2 with /sug/. We don't have generals on /co/ anymore to watch shows ...

>>150697377
The funniest thing about Steven Universe is how it bangs on and on about trauma, PTSD, and mental health issues. But it completely glosses over a character actually going to get treated for it. Because of "privacy". The real reason is probably because no one on the crewniverse was mentally sound enough to actually understand what getting help looks like.

>>150644360
White Diamond AU is breddy gud, Blue Diamond AU started out okay, but feels like it isn't going anywhere, Black Pearl is edgy and dumb, but it takes itself seriously which ironically makes it entertaining, if only it updated at a reasonable pace. B-Sides and Gem Kids both had potential, but their creators bailed on them.

>>150676942
I have no faith in LOTS for the simple-reason that the Off-Colors just aren't interesting enough to sustain an entire show.

>>150700427
>Off-Colors just aren't interesting enough to sustain an entire show
And neither were the townies, but look at SU's runtime. I doubt it'll be as long, but they'll asspull a season or two.
Frankly, I hope it sucks at this point. After all the wasted time, I really want it to die in front of everyone.

>>150701468
The Weekend is gayer than the entirety of Steven Universe

>>150700857
The townie stuff is fine in the early seasons when a lot of the characters and lore were still being established and it's less obvious to new viewers what the show will become later... but that's exactly why wasting time on townie shit in later seasons became irritating and distracting and why everyone came to hate it. Townie episodes in S1 and S2, especially those that came right after big lore drops or tense episodes were like a little slice of ginger or a tiny cup of sorbet in between courses to cleanse the palate, but by S4 and S5 you're supposed to be enjoying your main course.

All of this is stuff that the showrunners should be acutely aware of after all the years of fans bitching, which just makes it even more bizarre to center a spinoff around one of the least-interesting groups of side characters in the original show.

>>150700045
>We don't have generals on /co/ anymore
Why's that?

>>150642366 (OP)
I liked the slice of life elements and thought peridot was a very cute pet

>>150702468
>peridot was a very cute pet

>>150702332
>All of this is stuff that the showrunners should be acutely aware of after all the years of fans bitching, which just makes it even more bizarre to center a spinoff around one of the least-interesting groups of side characters in the original show.
It is pretty bizarre, unless they just don't give a fuck like they always didn't, and just want to crank out more bad teenage melodrama poorly disguised as a fantasy adventure show. Even though there's no longer bullshitting people into thinking that sitting through the slog will eventually somehow pay off, and the original ending already irreversibly fucking up SU's story and world.
At the end of it all, crewniverse wasn't good at either show production or fan interaction.

>>150702436
They're not allowed

the best thing about this show was the porn and it's not even close

>>150704879
>Peributt
Incredibly based

>>150704110
Ah, okay.

>>150704891
i love this dorky scientist slut like you wouldn't believe

>>150705520
She's my everything

>>150700133
yeah. portraying someone as miserable is easy, but showing them climbing out of their hole in an actually believable way, and not just crying and hugging it out, requires so much more.

>>150706036
sounds gay

>>150706580
so is the rest of the show.

>>150667155
Kinda funny that Greg got solidified as the ugly bastard self-insert is so much of porn. Granted much of it was made by third worlders, but still.

>>150702332
The problem with the townies is simple: They don't seem to exist whenever Gem stuff happens. It's easily the most bizarre thing in the show, no one cares about the group of aliens living next door. It's not even like they're trying to keep it a secret, everyone knows they're there.

>>150707640
Gem stuff happens around the townies a lot. They're just used to Beach City being weird.
They've all seen the Crystal Gems doing magic and fighting monsters, but they grew up with it. And so did their parents and grandparents. The gems have been on that beach for 5000 years.

They probably don't know they're aliens though.

>>150706580
Stfu

>>150708119
no

>>150708108
Even if that's an acceptable reasoning, there is no ignoring the rest of the world being infested with corrupted gems, even in present day. And yet there is not a single example of the rest of humanity interacting with them, with Sugar and Co using shitty excuses to not bother with connecting the main cast to the rest of the setting, and detailing it out. Instead calling another outing with the donut kids "worldbuilding".

>>150708898
This

>>150708898
This is the main reason people couldn't tolerate townie shit episodes. Wannabe slice of life episodes when you have war veterans casually playing volleyball.
I'm surprised that there was not a single anti gem townie outside of Andy but he was an outsider defending his property or any episode were townies stumbled unto corrupted gems or anything

>>150642366 (OP)
PROS
>Pearl is at her absolute best
>Amethyst is at her absolute best
>NO townie shit
>Wrapped up storylines even though it was rushed
CONS
>Steven
>His muh trauma bullshit takes up the last episodes

It’s 5/10 really.

>>150642366 (OP)
I like the gems but Steven is just really lame

>>150708860
Cope

semen demon

>>150708898
The show really just feels like it was afraid of actually expanding outward. Some episodes felt like if Sugar and Co. could just isolate the cast to the beach house, they would and never have them mention the outuside world again.

Even the corrupted gems stopped being an actual thing to care about past season 1. Once Peridot showed up, they barely mentioned them.

>>150711137
Would

>>150711181
Jasper was taking care of the corrupted gems for a while.

>>150711181
Sometimes I wonder why did they even put as much focus on alien stuff in s1 as they did, if they were going to make it deeply irrelevant for most of the episodes. Or if they just decided to so drastically change the direction, what caused it.
They not just went back to standards of s1, they dropped the stakes even LOWER. Granted, you could blame the storyboarders for that, but even the leads were trying to defend this approach.

>>150711891
>>150711181
Dealing with corrupted gems and old gem tech from the war took a back seat once Peridot showed up because Homeworld was a world ending threat.
They changed their priorities.

>>150712422
Probably for the best, the corrupted gems just weren't that interesting

I miss season 1

>>150714765
I always liked Blushmallet

>>150715212
This sucks

>>150644279
I always hated Perdiot's transformation from a robotic, grumpy agent of Homeworld to a 2 feet tall, goofy, stupid gremlin thing that just hangs out in the barn as Lapis' fucktoy in the name of "character development"

>>150715230
Same

I just wanted to fuck blue pearl.

>>150715265
There was little to no change in her actual personality anon, I think you just wanted her to be a villain instead of joining the heroes

Why was the gem empire so geard toward expansion, anyway? they've never encountered sentient life before, reproduction isn't actually necessary, and gems don't consume food, water, or any resources that go beyond the scale of actually needing to make so many colonies and warrior and diplomatic gems who are clearly made with the expectations of fighting actual aliens or each other.

Am I the only heterosexual male that likes Steven Universe?

>>150688147
>Matt Braly movie
>and Adventure Time movie
>AND Steven Universe spin-off
>AND The Elephant
>AND Moomin movie
And this is without bringing up her side hustle with those new albums. There's no way Sugar is balancing all of these at the same time. Companies should really hold off on announcing projects until they're deep into full production, lest they get people's hopes up for things that will most likely be quietly shelved forever.

>Rebecca Sugar writing and directing new Moomin movie.
Perkele.

>>150650683
>Steven went full fucking retard with Connie like holy shit she was down to bang before you pulled that marriage shit
Connie is just some human that wanted to have fun with him and feel important. She probably would have wanted a break or to try some new dick anyway not get stuck with one guy who's she's already been around for years. Especially with her limited lifespan.

>>150658246
I like the way you think man.

>>150715307
even if the series was worth giving the benefit of the doubt, and it would be okay for the character the become a parody of herself because it's a kids show, she still lost a lot of her relevance, getting downgraded from taking part in the overarching plot to just roommate drama on the side.

>>150717855
>because it's a kids show
No it's because the writers are tumblrfags

>>150717869
okay, sure, it LOOKS like a kids show.

>>150717855
>getting downgraded from taking part in the overarching plot to just roommate drama on the side.
What are you on about? Peridot wasn't some sort of main villain, we barely had a few episodes with her appearing for more than a minute while she was a villain.
The sidelining happened way after her redemption arc because one of the storyboarders wanted her to be girlfriends with worst gem. You have no idea what you're talking about

>>150717931
>one of the storyboarders wanted her to be girlfriends with worst gem
doesn't make this part suck any less

>>150717959
NTA, but he OBVIOUSLY didn't meant to say that was a good thing.

>>150717959
Uhhhhh... yeah I agree that sucked a lot but that wasn't my point

>>150644162
I liked it when the gems were magic instead of aliens

>>150697677
Future just started saying the quiet parts loud in regards to Greg's dodgy parenting
Things like Steven having never been to a doctor before or that he has grandparents that exist
Not that anyone is really in their depth as a single parent to a half magic baby, but Greg did fumble some shit because of his own immaturity

>>150642366 (OP)
I didn't like it specifically because of the shit with Yellow Diamond repairing EVERY gem shattered in the war, and suddenly being able to fix shattered gems on her own. Just a massive undercutting of the worldbuilding at the 11th hour for no reason, like this is supposed to make us feel better about her 'redemption'?

>>150719204
When was that?

>>150652033
>

>>150664510
You make Leto sound way more based than he actually was. He was basically a wojak incarnate politically.

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven spoils "his" own show very quickly. It would have unironically been better without him entirely.

>>150642366 (OP)
Too woke

>>150722283
See >>150720930

>>150642366 (OP)
It's bad

>>150642366 (OP)
Is that a serious question?

>>150644027
I used to think this (for future only) but her new album of all things honestly made me think it wouldn't have been much better. Since she made an album without CN or anything, I expected it to be a little more "adult" and experimental, but the sound and songwriting is not really more complex or mature than what you'd find in SU. Thats not necessarily bad, I love SU and what she did in adventure time, but it did make me realize that thats just kinda how her style is and it probably wouldn't be much different on adult swim. Still would be nice though, i'm sure she could have gone a little deeper into steven and connies relationship at least.

>>150720262
>>150719204
They were always pretty open about them being aliens.
The Red Eye happens in Episode 2 and it's pretty clearly a gem thing from space.
Lapis is pretty explicit about it in episode 26 when she flies into space to go home. That's also when they explain about corrupted gems.

Also apparently Lapis just has FTL capabilities which are never explained. Either that or there's a galaxy warp on Mars.

>Watching the Robobuddies rant on Steven Universe
>makes good points about SU's action scenes being weightless
>also good points on the composition not being interesting most of the time
>completely drops the ball halfway through to nitpick character's hair being drawn .1 centimeter different than the model sheets
>also conflates animators with storyboard artists
I hate how much Steven Universe criticism gave a bad name to "off-model". Off-model isn't inherently a bad thing.
What people actually hated about Steven Universe (and other beanmouth shows) was how amateur the art is, which is different from being drawn "wrong", what I mean is that a lot of artists behind it obviously had very little experience at best or didn't know how to draw at worst.

>>150723718
>a lot of artists behind it obviously had very little experience at best or didn't know how to draw at worst.
That's because Sugar hired her friends instead of people who know what they're doing. It's why OK KO looks like shit, because most of the guys involved neither have the talent nor skill so everything was dumbed down to make it workable for them.

>>150723761
True and agreed.
I actually hated OK KO visually way more than SU, the drawings in it were always so obnoxious.

>>150642366 (OP)
too much steven torture porn and not enough focus on the other characters and unsaid lore, made it unbearable to watch. we still dont know what happens when a gem is deprived of light or who made all the diamonds

>>150723718
All cartoons are off-model early on while the artists settle into a consistent style.

>>150723839
Even if that was true that doesn't account for the fact that Steven Universe actually got WORSE the longer it went on.
SUF looked like garbage.

>>150723718
>Off-model isn't inherently a bad thing
Except this is supposed to be a serious show and it was more due to unprofessionalism

>>150723865
Oh that's easy to account for. No it didn't.

>>150723883
A serious show can still play around with how characters are drawn/presented. This same review went on about how important it is to do various angles/composition to make things more dramatic/interesting, why can't the same apply to the character drawings themselves?

>>150642366 (OP)
Why does Steven wear so much pink? Is he Gay??

>>150723816
>who made all the diamonds
I'm not sure the crew thought it through properly when they introduced the diamonds. Pic related is probably the most we'll ever know about their origins and it's not even canon.

>>150724092
>>150723816
My theory is that the gems are artificial lifeforms created by an extinct progenitor race. Like robots but way more versatile. Perfectly designed for space exploration.

I suspect Sugar got the idea from Voyager. The doctor with his mobile emitter is very similar to how gems work.

>>150724269
Transformers.
Its transformers.
Transformers animated to be exact

>>150724089
He is pink

>>150725458
Nah

>>150725458
sheeeee's GONE

>>150642393
I would have to be high to agree. Peridot still didn't fuse with Lapis Lazuli, and Sadie chose a black non-binary she just met. Fuck future.

>>150724269
Finally someone else realizes this. The emitter EMH uses is literally like their gems. BRAVO SUGAR

>>150719300
>Just a massive undercutting of the worldbuilding at the 11th hour for no reason
SU did this for basically everything except the reveal of Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond. The Cluster had like a whole season of buildup and was supposed to be this timebomb Eldritch being of gem shards onlt for it to be a complete nothingburger. They're all actually now a chill hivemind and not a writhing mass of insane consciousnesses doomed for eternity. It's happy to be bubbled up and then conviently pop out to help hold back Steven in Future and then we're supposed to assume that Yellow Diamond will fix them or something. All the corrupted gems? Well they're gonna take a cleansing bath thanks to the Diamonds and we're not even going to have an episode or two focusing on the struggles of being a corrupted gem in rehab even though the early seasons spoke about the corruption as basically a mass genocide event and how sad it was that the monsters the gems were fighting were insane enemies and allies alike. For how much SU claimed to be this show about sensitively portraying emotions and trauma, the writers sure were eager to gloss over the resolution to dramatic, tragic events that were built up to. And yet they were happy to spend multiple episodes making Lapis into an toxic ex and then angsty art school equivalent, totally not because that's the type of "drama" that art school graduates have the most experience with and are biased towards writing about.

>>150723883
It's a kids cartoon, anon

>>150655704
It's about how the original audience for the show has grown up and moved out of the house

>>150728552
KEK, nice one

>>150724269
>gems are artificial lifeforms created by an extinct progenitor race
Man that's crazy, never heard that one before

>>150724269
This isn't a relevation.
The conspiracy faggot character long talk about a higher being over the Diamonds.
The Snake People or Sneeple Ronaldo called them

>>150728519
And?

>>150642366 (OP)
>, it was a very fun watch.
Like, how fun was it?

>>150721140
>"his"
What did you mean by this

>>150732715
It isn't his show. How crudely he's botched into being essential and the main character sullies the entire thing, I don't give a fuck if Sugar planned it from the start or not, it sucks.
Should just focus on Gems only, not a audience insert autist gem-human hybrid thing.

>>150732847
>Should just focus on Gems only, not a audience insert autist gem-human hybrid thing.
I agree, the human parts of this show come off as forced and uninteresting

>>150728469
one of the things that pisses me off the most is in season 1 where Lapis is like
>HOLY SHIT GUYS HOMEWORLD IS SO ADVANCED I CANT RECOGNIZE IT
but then when they poof peridot and have access to her limb enhancers the gems dump them into the ocean instead of analyzing them to see what new advanced homeworld tech is like or capable of

>>150733163
The way the CGs handled Peridot in general was incredibly stupid. When you capture an enemy you don't just throw them in a prison forever and forget about them especially after they tell you they have information about something. If Steven wasn't smart enough to figure that out then everyone would have died

>>150728469
speaking of undercutting worldbuilding, they also liked to undercut interesting opportunities for it too
>steven is trapped on homeworld with no way home, we're finally going to see what homeworld is like after like 4 seasons of buildup!
>just kidding lmao lars is fucking dead/pink and steven has a free portal home
after they pulled that shit (and the implication that lars was doing actually interesting shit like stealing spaceships and fighting emerald off screen because muh steven pov) i lost all hope for interesting gem worldbuilding

>>150728469
This is why redeeming the villains was such a bad idea. Everyone needed to get along and push forward and seek a way to make ammends for the INTERGALACTIC-SCALE WAR CRIMES committed against numerous planets and and species, but to actually address that would mean a colossal complex and boring set of post-war reparations programs. You can't really put the diamonds in jail for what they did, and you can't have them actually face the atrocities they caused...

So, instead, every single fucking bad thing they did just gets undone. Every shattered gem is healed. Every corrupted gem is fixed. Every human forgives them for infesting their planet with countless war gem monsters and dangerous gem bullshit. They said "sorry" and every bad thing that lingered from their heinous crimes is just wiped clean.

They could have even extended the series into a world-tour where we get to see Steven and teams of different gems interacting, hunting down remnants of Gempire tech and Pink's war, and fixing the world, while also seeing gems inter-mingling and integrating with human society. Instead we got some retarded therapy plot because Rebecca Sugar once saw a twitter post talking about how Evangelion was a deconstruction on the teen mech pilot genre because the teens have trauma, and thought that was so deep. (even though Gundam did that first. Fuck you.)

>>150642393
Yeah and colon cancer is better than pancreatic cancer

>>150733278
future isn't that bad though.

>>150642366 (OP)
That might be the cutest Pearl has ever looked in official promo art :3c

>>150733226
Maybe we'll get at least something in the upcoming spin off

>>150642366 (OP)
Watching Steven Universe wasn't as fun as all the crafting theories about the show's setting or backstory as it aired.
>>150642393
It's obvious that there was a huge shift in Season 3/second half of Season 2 where Sugar should've done a better job at tard wrangling. Retards like Zuke.

>>150723243
How?

>>150723839
SU never stopped being off-model.

You know, all things considered, this is still one of the better Steven Universe threads. At least there’s SOME actual discussion and some good peridot pics to go with it.

>>150737957
Peridot always increases the quality of a thread

>>150642366 (OP)
Felt like it deconstructed Steven for no reason other than to create drama sure it has it highs and lows but ultimately it has nothing to say
Did we need to see Steven confront Greg? Maybe but that's not how father son conflict is resolved, that's not a conclusion it's a cry for help the writers should have watched a couple episodes of king of the hill to learn about intergenerational trauma and the problem with communication, ultimately the biggest problem with the steven-greg dynamic is how much Steven felt like a little Greg clone especially during the first seasons the lack of independence would have been a better angle
As for the rest it was a mixture of revisiting old trauma and brooding they certainly could have taken the concept further
For a sequel (epilogue?) that came out so soon after cancelation it should have focused more on tying loose ends and less on trying to create drama for something that they budget couldn't afford them to deliver

>>150737986
peridot with her enhancers is an infinitely better design than without

>>150738065
I think her gremlin version is cuter but her tall version is pretty cool

>>150642366 (OP)
It was woke satanic Marxist propaganda that encouraged a generation of young boys to chop their dicks off and put on girls clothes.

>>150738107
lay off the pipe, schizo

>>150738107
We don’t care what you do in your free time

>>150738107
I thought that was Bugs Bunny.

>>150738173
Nope

>>150642366 (OP)
the show didnt abuse its inherently interesting premise enough.
watching SU is like watching transformers except 2/3 of the episodes are spent in their vehicle forms

>>150738549
That's because of townie shit

>>150714229
Best gem

>>150724092
Those black bars piss me off like you wouldn't believe. How is there STILL more story left to tell??

>>150740392
True

>>150741187
How much does Peridot cost?

>>150694147
That's the fucking point of both the movie AND the sequel. There's no "nice ending wrapped in a little bow", there's no" happily ever after". There's always more shit to go through, because that's life

>>150738549
You're are wrong

>>150742272
You get one free

>>150742454
You don't see how that's an inherently irrelevant position that is literally worse than having no end?

I still find it so funny that one of the best characters of the show is a blatant invader zim ripoff

>>150743449
Fem Invader Zim is the greatest

>>150743665
> Zim, but as a weak lesbian with none of the positive or even negative attributes that made Zim entertaining
hrt really does a number on some of your brains

>>150743777
Peridot isn't even a lesbian, anon. Quit your bellyaching

Honestly I just didn't like the animation, artstyle and the pacing it had sometimes. I still watched a chunk of the show because there were a lot of things I liked but these issues became kinda unbearable to me once it started to get more lore heavy. I honestly think I'd like it more adapted as a comic.
>>150643335
lmao based

>>150647080
they're legit the same as 2014 SJW tumblrites except they throw slurs to feel edgy

>>150642366 (OP)
It's just a poor man's version of Pink Floyd's The Wall.

>>150744215
Stfu l*dditfag

>>150744544
Explain yourself

>>150642366 (OP)
As usual with SU during it’s runtime, it wasn’t the fanfic people already made in their heads. Really enjoyable to watch now

>>150688147
That just proves it definitely is about Ian. He’s the kind of guy that would be game to help produce a work about his own love issues. They’re artists, artist couples sometimes collaborate about their own fights

>>150688233
You’re missing the entire point of Future kek, that Steven is a human and his personal journey doesn’t end just because the curtains go down. It never will, nobody’s will, not until you’re in the ground and maybe not even then.
What was resolved was that he identified his issues and was pointed in healthy ways of working with them, and truly understanding how he’s loved and appreciated, while the people who love him learned how to truly support him.

Fuck Peridot

>>150745670
Very hard

>>150745159
Well put anon

>>150745159
>while the people who love him learned how to truly support him.
What was wrong with him?

>>150743199
THAT IS AWESOME. I'M GOING TO BE SUPER RICH IF I SELL ALL OF THESE PERIDOTS!!

>>150746813
It's great candy

>>150642366 (OP)
>Why did people not like it?
Think it's just cause the show still doesn't have that many weeks,but i'm sure we'll get morepoccharacterssoonenough

>>150747690
Did your space bar stop working at the end there?

>>150748869
Think it's just cause the keyboard space bar still doesn't have that many weeks,but i'm sure we'll get more poc characters soon enough

>>150745159
>Steven is a human
Humans don't turn into kaiju or have magic healing powers, retard. Steven is not human, and he's not exactly a gem, which was the entire point of the series up until future wanted to do a little struggle session and pretend therapy time with fictional characters.

>>150748897
bipoc*

>>150748897
Stop samming this shit

>>150749827
Samming?

>>150715265
Ultimately we got aroace Peridot instead from a sex repulsed board artist who yelled at anyone who'd ship her so it was like a giant douche vs. turd sandwich situation

>>150751379
Aroace Peridot is just as canon as lapidot, both are storyboarder headcanons

>>150751283
Spamming, made a typo

More gem ass

>>150745670
jannies need to do something about this faggot, derails every thread with this shit

>>150752438
>AAAAAAA stop talking about Peridot NOW, jannies save me!
Sad!

>>150752309
it's ok, everyone makes mistakes.

>>150738107
it's actually a traditionalist story on the nature and justification of the Varnas and the difference between exoteric and esoteric religion. You'd know this if you watched the hit documentary "Mike Mignola: Sucking off Monsters" where she discusses how she was introduced to the traditionalist school by Mike when he handed her a book on Akkadian blood magic at a drunken, gay orgy (she was just there to watch).

>>150752438
responding to posts about a character who is part of the show which is the topic of the thread is not derailment.

>>150752977
spamming nonstop by yourself IS spamming, a faggot side character that only autistic middle schoolers like isn't a topic

>>150753305
Qeq, such an assblasted Peridot hater

>>150752941
For real? I'm gonna watch SU right now!

>>150642366 (OP)
I personally had no problem with the series and enjoyed every ep.
Also pearl is the best character.

>>150754605
Even the townie ones?

>>150730768
Very

>>150753305
>I don't like it therefore it's spam

Tl;dr to anyone about why there is such a divide on opinions on the shows quality.
One camp is people who hate it religiously, because a) someone said them or b) they think it's woke therefore bad
Other camp is people who love it religiously because a) tumblr or b) zealous fans, I guess I don't know how to explain it.
The most dissapointing thing is that there still people who will fight over this show ignoring any good or bad things about the show. But that might be just be obsession of fellow /co/mrades.

>>150757631
This is my favorite /co/ trope by far, I love watching retards shitflinging

>>150757682
The "let's argue about a thing noone cares about" is kind common on all of 4chins

>>150757782
It gets more common and more heated depending on the topic, SU is the king of religious shitflinging on /co/

>>150757842
Controversial opinion,but I want be stevens immortal uncle who fought in ww1 as a czechoslovak legionare and pearls husband and a father of a cute gem-human daughter.

>>150757874
Why czechoslovak in particular?

>>150646354
The problem with kaiju steven is the kaiju is too cool. The show already had a much more horrific transformation with cat fingers

>>150642366 (OP)
It taught the lie that boys and men should cry. Unknowningly, they trained a whole generation of girls to go ICK HARDER every time they see a boy cry AND putting a massive red flag on the boys and men who do cry because of this show.

Boy, men, guys, my fellow males; don't cry. You can shed a single manly tear when your parents and your dog die. But no wet works. You'll look like a pussy if you do and girls fucking hate pussies.

>>150758002
Because when men cry it’s often for bitch baby “things aren’t going my way” reasons and not compassion or true struggle. They also never do it at the right time or with the right people - an autismal inability to read the room and know when it will be safe/accepted. (Protip, just because people say they’re accepting and understanding doesn’t mean they are. You have to meet many people and go through many situations and learn to sense who can really trust with softness)
They handle crying/emotional expression like inept toddlers only capable of being pitiful, which is why works like this are necessary to continue to teach men to really explore their heart. Of course you’re gonna fuck it up and stumble when you’ve only first been allowed outside the gates of your prison, your malnourished legs have you collapse in pathetic heaps

Not to say women don’t cry over stupid shit like toddlers far more often, but I can least feel them when they’re crying for something real. But that’s their side of training from now on, learning to build gates and control their flow better like men.
We’re all gonna reach perfection

>>150642366 (OP)
I hate low budgety animation and I hate cartoons about children. And I hate cartoons about being nice and trying to teach kids to hug their problems away like fags. Not even going into the woke stuff, that's always a cop out excuse to hate something.

>>150758420
We get it you're going through your edgy phase

>>150758416
>men bad

>>150714765
>>150715274
God, remember when Blushmallet and CubedCoconut were the king and queen of R34

>>150758002
This attitude turns men into psychopaths.

>>150759969
Wish they would start drawing again, I loved their art

>>150760202
I know they moved to twitter when the tumblr purge happened, have they not updated since?

>>150642366 (OP)
It is ugly and gay. There is no reason to like it.

>>150760238
Oh nevermind CubedCoconut still draws but I can't view Blushmallet's posts, I'm pretty sure Blushmallet stopped drawing SU
https://x.com/blushmallet
https://x.com/CubedCoconut/media

>>150760191
True, that guy's retarded

>>150760247
You have to be gay to think the gems are ugly

Im Dreamin' of
Being Beeeeeeing Beeeeeeing
Being Human

>>150762254
Bee yourself

>>150762254
Shit like this just tells me that the creators made themselves angry by making a protag who was actually confronting and dealing with him problems like the subhuman alien god-being he actually is, so they had to knock him down a few pegs and make him "human" so they feel like terrible about themselves and their incessant need to skirt all the mistakes and fuck-ups in their lives with therapy speak and half-assed internet activism.

Steven spent 5 seasons learning about the problems that plague him, his friends, and his extended alien space Hitler family, dealt with them, and made immense progress towards undoing the damage they'd done to the world and the people around them. Guess that was too unrealistic for a bunch of LA faggots to accept.

>>150762502
>subhuman alien god-being
is this meant to be insulting or complimentary

>>150762606
meant to type superhuman, but take it however you will.

Hey there Jitendra. Not my fault your biology rejects gator. So now it's the SUN HEART AND HOPE in one comic. Let's lock and load.
Hint.
>>>Learn to moonwalk like any good performer!

>>150762680
what

>>150762651
That makes more sense

>>150757970
Am I the only one who thought the cat fingers episode wasn't scary or some shit? Steven turned into a bunch of cats, how crazy can you make that?

>>150764295
They made it crazy

>>150764354
How?

>>150765138
Because it was

>>150765153
Why?

>>150766475
Watch the episode

>>150766500
I did, it wasn't any crazier than any of the other episodes.

>>150693171
She would totally say this

>>150643335
fpbp

>>150711280
She lost almost all of them pretty quickly during the last fight

>>150663595
It just got updated again

>>150762502
Honestly, what sank Future was not letting Steven listen to the only person in the room with real answers. They just had him spiral out of control in the most frustrating and preventable way solely to imitate Zach Callison's battles with his mental state, when the more pressing matter is writing a satisfying climax to your story. The show creators unironically had started to taste the bitterness of the redpill that Steven was surrounded by a bunch of helpless dependent sluts and Jasper had all the answers he needed, but they have some irrational fear of letting her be the voice of reason too.

Steven needed to tell the gems to fuck off and deal with their own problems. Something Jasper could have told him in seconds.

I also get that Steven is a maladjusted tard, but did Greg seriously never teach him about sex so that he could promise Connie something worth marrying him for?

>>150771437
Cope

>>150644848
I'm not a black woman but I get it

>>150776008
triggered chud detected

>>150776381
Kys /co/mblrfag

>>150776387
back to /pol/, chud

>>150776592
Sorry that this is a free board

>>150774937
Thankfully yeah, I saw that their patreon showed like 6 pages early shown while at the same time I went back to the tapas and saw a new one coming up at the time. So hopefully we're back at the weekly schedule

>>150642366 (OP)
the dislike for the stylistic inconsistency between episodes was so overblown. The show was being directed by the storyboard writers who were free to do whatever they wanted and they were all 20- 30+ year industry veterans which resulted in a stronger show.

>>150776680
It looked like shit and what veterans were working on it?

>>150776623
this is a pro-steven universe board

>>150776725
….in my fanfiction

>>150776776
and in reality too

>>150776691
It looked awesome, people just hate it religiously.

>>150776827
>>150776975
Kys samefag

>>150777003
Mald

>>150777045
Dilate

>>150777052
Obsessed

>>150777091
You are behaving like a cultist

>>150777373
Cope

>>150777455
Bot

>>150777506
Mad

>>150776640
I hope it gets finished eventually, it's sad when an artist abandons an interesting comic

>>150778258
Hopefully, guess they were busy with something for a month or so. Plus there is already Artworks of the "aftermath" technically for Black Pearl iirc

>>150779417
>Plus there is already Artworks of the "aftermath" technically for Black Pearl iirc
Didn't know that. Got a link?

>>150779729
https://revolver-d.tumblr.com/post/187487641306/she-is-just-got-tired-of-everything-over-the

https://revolver-d.tumblr.com/post/190326350416/getting-back-on-drawing-this-bad-girl

Maybe I misremembered the text but can't imagine this being the endpoint for Black Pearl after the comic

>>150780333
Interesting, thank you for sharing.

>>150658432
>So are Rebecca and Ian breaking up?
No.

>>150644657
Seethe

>>150775075
>jasper had the answers
Lmao, what in your fanfiction?

>>150785036
>no actual argument

>>150785036
Steven's final choice to end the series was to leave Beach City and live his own life away from the gems. This is literally something Jasper was hinting at. She repeatedly told Steven to make his own decisions and not to apologize for them. She doesn't get enough credit for seeing Steven's struggle clearly with her blunt perspective on the world around her. Even after being shattered it was instantly clear to her that the gems were suffocating him.

"Do what you want."
"Don't apologize."
"My Diamond will do as he pleases."

Jasper was constantly telling Steven to be a man, and make his own decisions. This is a lesson that Greg couldn't teach him because of his dependence on Steven's presence.

>>150642366 (OP)
I didn't want to see Steven outlive his usefulness. I wanted the ending from the movie.

>>150787293
tough luck

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven universe is normalizing cuck

>>150642366 (OP)
Steven acts zesty especially around Lars

>>150786899
Whoa…. A gem blindly following their diamond like every other gem, so heckin deep. Not like we haven’t seen that one before!

>>150642366 (OP)
I liked parts of it, but the drama and emotional crashouts were just too condensed in a small amount of episodes, to the point where it just felt weird and melodramatic that Steven was basically having a breakdown every single episode.

Steven actually acknowledging that his childhood was super fucked up in retrospect was an interesting premise and it would've been nice seeing that unfold with either a higher episode count so that scenes could actually breathe a bit OR just with a bit less going on so it feels less bloated and melodramatic would've been nice.

>>150788645
Yeah its kinda soured by the fact that you know Jasper wasn't really seeing Steven or his issues for what they were, by her mind, it was just her Diamond who should have absolute authority to do whatever they want whenever they want hesitating to do so for some reason she couldn't understand.

Even at the end Steven basically just has to tell her to stay behind like he's ordering a dog to sit and wait for its food.

>>150788301
And is it a bad thing though?

>>150787293
Steven running Little Homeworld was where he really belonged. It was his big project and where he was needed. And he's the poster child for human/gem relations with the authority of a diamond to keep things under control.

I get that he needed to explore his human side more now that the war is over, but he's never going to be able to live a normal life. He's just gonna bum around on Greg's dime for a couple years until he realizes that he was already where he belonged.
So in a way it all goes back to the ending from the movie. Just with a sabbatical for Steven to really feel like he chose this life.

>>150784784
Go to bed

>>150789775
Problem being that his work there was just a continuation of what he'd been doing the whole series, 'fixing' others and purely focusing on what THEY need rather than taking any time to examine his own future goals or problems.

>>150642366 (OP)
It was made for manchildren and womanchildren, not kids.

>>150790985
But how can WE make content that made for manchildren and womanchildren, but actually good?

>>150792134
You tell them to grow the fuck up and get jobs instead of catering to them.

>>150792341
We've already tried that for decades now and it's only gotten worse, it doesn't work

>>150792134
Talent and carring about the audience

>>150792134
I mean those animation parody on YouTube and Newgrounds count, right?

>>150794050
lol nice one

>>150788262
Stop projecting

>>150789829
But it's not midnight

>>150786899
>just fuck off and make everyone else do it
They probably thought this was a really mature and nuanced position. Like when you quit a job and have no responsibility to make sure everything goes alright for your co-workers after you leave... But Steven put himself in an position of authority to solve the problems caused by him forcing all the Diamonds and gems to grovel at his feet and change their entire civilization to please him.

>>150658246
kissing pearl's feet while demolishing her pussy raw.

>>150797027
>foot fetishist
Gay cuck

>>150795097
Kind of

>>150788650
>the drama and emotional crashouts were just too condensed in a small amount of episodes
This is entirely because of too much filler

>>150795919
Stop deflecting

>>150802114
Learn English, pablo

>>150789093
Totally not

>>150802838
Learn hebrew, barney.

>>150805244
Unfunny and malding

>>150643274
My issue with it is they gave absolutely no indication prior that the gem stuff was affecting him mentally (I know about the cat fingers episode stfu already), he was always an optimistic/friendly person who saw the best in everyone, him having issues all of a sudden along with Rose being "ackshually fascist" seems like Sugar leaned into the nihilistic "well no one is really well adjusted or truly good" crap and it was annoying af

Unrelated but fusion going from being a cool powerup to a sex euphemism also really soured me on the series after season 2. Shame because I loved speculating on what the new fusions could've look like. My fault for trusting something made by a coomer I guess

>>150805403
>Unfunny
yes your attitude
>malding
You're bald

>>150805991
>Unrelated but fusion going from being a cool powerup to a sex euphemism also really soured me on the series after season 2.
the fact that steven fuses with the gems and even greg after this is established makes things extra offputting

>>150642366 (OP)
Woke fatigue, everyone got sick of your tumblr calarts slop

>>150806032
>no u
Unfunny and malding

>>150808052
Nah you are
>Unfunny
yes your attitude
>malding
You're bald

>>150708119
Gtfo
>>150710467
Arrest

>>150760191
And schizophrenics too

>>150777003
>>150776387
You first all me
>>150777052
Are you blind?
>>150776008
>>150777455
Arrest

>>150686918
Say whaaat

>>150762254
>>150762362
Beelievers

>>150808083
>>150808122
>>150808188
>>150808524
Melting down

>>150810096
Breaking down

>>150734441
Future is still dystopic

>>150670548
so
Steven after not surviving

>>150715241
and fucks

>>150652402
reasons

>>150662540
Gtfo grannysperg
>>150663164
the you first
>>150663264
go to bed

>>150720930
>>150722826
Breaks pipe

>>150691643
cloudy

>>150668296
i don't know

>>150810971
How can I live forever?