Thread 150816664

Happy Columbus Day, /co/!

>>150816664 (OP)
Go to /a/

hi

>>150816664 (OP)
the best

>>150816664 (OP)
lol

>>150816664 (OP)
>She sucks good after you give her a good belting.
>also feed the dogs more infants

>>150816664 (OP)
Spaniards and Anglos the biggest fags in history. Why did they insist on wearing wigs, tights, and makeup? Masculine men throughout history dressed up as apex predators. Aztec warriors dressed up as eagles and jaguars, the Norse worse bear and wolf pelts, the Romans had lions on their armor, the Chinese were dragons and tigers. The Spanish wore tutus and tights, and the Anglo Saxons walked around in powdered wigs. What are the implications of this?

>>150816895
>masculine men are furfags

>>150816664 (OP)
I never liked Columbus. In Napoli, a lot of people are not so happy for Columbus.

>>150816895
>Masculine men throughout history dressed up as apex predators.
Literally overcompensating.

Men that wore wigs and thighs were secure in their masculinity.

>>150816895
>"Masculine men" dressed up as apex predators lost to dudes in tutus and tights
What are the implications of this?

>>150816664 (OP)
IN THIS BOARD COLUMBUS IS A HERO

>>150816664 (OP)
I hate Columbus.
Not for the "indigenous people" BS, but because he was a lousy mathematician. Eratosthenes had correctly computed the size of the Earth. Educated people knew sailing West to reach the Indies was beyond the ships of the day. The crews would starve and die.

Columbus assumed a much smaller Earth and got funding on that basis. He lucked out and ran into an unknown continent. If not for that, he'd have sailed into oblivion and be forgotten today. His logs show clearly how he kept faking the numbers to convince his crews they were doing better than they actually were. He was a cheat and a liar.

It’s anti Italian discrimination

>>150817016
FUCK THEM!
But I never like Columbus so much.

>>150817022
Seething terrone as usual.

>>150816895
The haka is gay and so are you.

>>150817001
It's better to be lucky than be smart.

>>150817057
Shut up troon

>>150816664 (OP)
>>150816787
>>150816790

You have to be a literal moron to think a guy who embarassed even the monarchs of his time with stupidity and pointless cruelty is anythig to worship or celebrate

>>150817016
I might take action here

you just saved me the retardation of driving all the way to work on a holiday
Thank you.

>>150817084
lol

>>150817084
Well that’s racist America for you

>>150817001
This is a misconception.
Columbus did think the Earth was smaller than it was, but mainly he thought Asia was much bigger.

You see the only information about the geography of Asia Europeans had was from Marco Polo's book about his travels. And that book was incredibly exaggerated about its distances and also vaguely defined.

So Columbus spoke with a cartographer who believed Asia was roughly twice the size it actually was.
Going from that, and Marco Polo's claim that Japan was a thousand miles to the east of China, and lowballing the size of the Earth, and hoping there'd be some islands to the east of Japan, he made his prediction.

Colombus was actually quite good at math and navigating, he just had a lot of faulty information.
I think I heard somewhere that Colombus used the moon to correctly calculate the rough size of Jamaica after only being there a week. But I can't remember the specifics.

>>150817360
shut it. Columbus was evil and deserves to be forgotten

>>150816664 (OP)
Not /co/
Fuck off

>>150817084
>>150817553
>reminder that the guy that is the main source of Columbus' "cruelty" has his rival and eventual substitute, so he had all the reason to try to besmirch his name

>>150817084
>>150817237
Still a better man than (You)

>>150816895
The implications are that no amount of over compensations will chance the fact, that when the superiors western European comes a knockin' everyone else is just going to lose. It takes decades to ventures of undermining from outsiders to even weaken Europeans and their diaspora to even consider conquering them.

>>150817620
makes u think

>>150817620
Kek, lmao even. Europe was a backwater full of ooga boogas until civilization trickled in from Mesopotamia through the Mediterranean. Europe benefited from trade with Asia, got big and fat and then went around the world pillaging uncontacted tribes. Europe is the harbinger of death, the fat pig that sits atop a throne of corpses, with delusions of being an emperor god

>>150818312
And South America is still a backwater full of ooga boogas

>>150817564
>"but several gooning threads, a-okay!"

>>150818312
seething shitskin lmoa

>>150818312
lmao

>generic YearMonthDay screencaps thread
golly!

>>150816930
Fuck off, Furio you zip.

>>150818668
I wanna sail on Roll's synthetic ass cheeks, and plot a course to her robotic bootyhole

>>150818312
>Europe is the harbinger of death, the fat pig that sits atop a throne of corpses, with delusions of being an emperor god
Anon, that sounds metal as fuck.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

>>150818336
Better than /pol/ shit
The OP isnt even /co/

posting at least something /co/ related

>>150817084
Today isn't about Columbus, it's forced diversity Italian-American day ya slack-jawed faggot. And I'd rather drink wine with them than listerine with the """""first nations"""""

>>150816664 (OP)
Happy Thanksgiving

>>150817553
We don't know if he was a good or bad man.
All of our sources on him are very biased.
We have his son and Bartolome de las Casas, who for their own legacy or political mission, praised him as a noble adventurer.
And then there are Columbus's political enemies who principally wanted him removed as the governor of Hispaniola.

I generally value the words of Las Casas a bit more, he is a man very worthy of respect, so I'd say he was mostly an alright guy, but a terrible colonist.
Notably a lot of what his political enemies critiqued him over was being too lenient with the natives, so I'm inclined to think he was an asshole to his crew, his subordinates, but probably alright with his native allies.

Columbus's voyages were principally to set up posts to allow for trading with the orient. But he did say in his writings to the kind and queen of Spain that the people of the Caribbean could be turned into subjects.
He was mainly just an explorer. What happened next wasn't his call

>>150819727
>it's forced diversity Italian-American day ya slack-jawed faggot.
So we're watching Rambo&Rocky again?

>>150819768
He was an incompetent evil piece if shit who fled Spain because yhey were going to Lynch him.
He wasn't even a explorer. He was a scout for conquerors.

He was just one of many hes just the mist well known because he was a bragging. Goong in and on about his fair and sexual the dark skinned natives he kidnapped and raped were.

This started a 300 year long war and campaign ov fucking physical and historical genicude that never really ended. Even going so far as to send the natives to African colonies as slaves.

I digress. What can the children of white slaves know. You were never told the truth.

OP's pic looks like Farquaad

>>150819727
>, it's forced diversity Italian-American
Stfu troon

>>150816664 (OP)
Italian here, we don't really care about him. If we have to brag about famous Italians we have more than a dozen people before him

posting this I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux54IJ06uHg&t=96s

>>150820120
>You were never told
You never shut up about it

posting this I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux54IJ06uHg&t=470s

>>150816790
What kind of point is Stone toss trying to make? That white people can take out his out because that's what the people who conquer did before?

>>150816951
simple
femboys with firearms > macho men with spears

>>150816790
idgi

>DC is super liberal
>Have done nothing to change its name to remove all reference to Columbus
What gives with that?

>>150819768
>We don't know if he was a good or bad man.
Good and bad are not in the domain of historians. Even if every second of his life was recorded perfectly, it wouldn't make a subjective call objective.
And I think it's also irrelevant. The day is for an accomplished Italian, not a good one. Even if he was a wretched, drooling moron falling bass ackwards into accomplishment, that accomplishment was a pivotal moment in history. For that, he will be remembered. For that, people will be grateful that he lived.

>>150816664 (OP)
I will never understand the conservative obsession with trying to make it so people think Columbus did nothing wrong.

>>150821535
HEYAHOYA
HEYAHOYA

>>150821535
And what exactly did he do wrong?

>>150821535
I will never understand how liberals will constantly try to shit on Columbus despite being the figure that actually jumpstarted the age of exploration and brought humanity to the global age.

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>>150821616
His problem is that he's Italian, which is almost White.

>>150821709
He was Genovese, which is worse than a Jew.

>>150820399
I dunno, I took it as a low effort shitpost where he didn’t even bother to do research and make visual reference to the history of real tribes, and instead he color coded a trio of vague plains tribe stereotypes.

>>150821535
>>150821569
>>150821616
>>150821654
>>150821709
>>150822115
>>150822195
COMICS
AND
CARTOONS

>>150822207
You forgot OP.

>>150816664 (OP)
Not /co/
Fuck off
>>>/a/

>>150820120
>He was an incompetent
He was extremely competent as a navigator. He was just operating by incorrect geographical information. Even then he always captained his ship excellently
>evil piece if shit
We really don't know enough about him to call him evil.
>who fled Spain because they were going to Lynch him.
Completely false.
He was arrested by some of his colonists in Hispaniola for either being a tyrant or being too nice to natives depending on your source, and either way he was immediately pardoned by the monarchs of Spain.

>Hes just the most well known because of bragging
He's the most well known because he is the singular human being responsible for the connection between both hemispheres.
>He kidnapped/raped
He waged a war on the Carib cannibal tribe, because they were attacking Columbus's allied natives of the Arawak and Taino. He took a few hostages from there. But the natives he brought over were gifts.
The Caribbean was a primitive society, they would give servants as a favor or a welcoming gift.
And there is no reputable source which says he raped anyone. And reputable ones which say he specifically didn't
>This started a 300 year long war
Why is this his problem?
>Even going so far as to send the natives to African colonies as slaves
What the fuck are you talking about? Spain didn't have any African colonies back then.

>>150820282
He's a bigger deal for the Spanish, who understandably view him as a national hero.

>>150818902
>t. picrel
You sound like a flaming faggot with AIDS and gonorrhea, and a chil-raping pedophile with a trillion TBs of child porn to boot.

>>150822944
Are you here for comics and cartoons or not?
This is Japanese manga published by a Japanese publisher made by Japanese creators to serve as a stealth thread for off-topic faggotry
Now fuck off

>>150821616
Nobody’s perfect

>>150823004
is this comics and cartoons? >>150817004

>>150823125
Okay I didn't see that one

>>150819743
Happy Thanksgiving to you too, fellow Canadian!

>>150817084
The entire thing people try to use against Columbus is "even the Spanish thought he was a monster and jailed him" which is a gross distortion of what happened. The reality is that Columbus and his family were given a percentage of all money made in the New World because as a reward or his discovery of it. But when it turned out that the New World was raking in a ton of money, the Spanish government began to regret the deal they'd made because they were now losing out on a ton of money that was going to Columbus. They used Las Casas' writings as justification for tossing Columbus in jail because by doing that, they could argue that Columbus' abuses voided the contract thus meaning the crown wouldn't be giving up any of their New World weatlh.

It's not as if the Spanish actually then went and treated the natives any better than Columbus did and Las Casas himself only cared insomuch that killing the natives meant they couldn't be converted to Christianity and advocated for using Africans instead thus playing a role in instigating and legitimizing the African slave trade.

>>150822207
Any time I see this I know it's some retard in the thread that lost the arguement and wants the thread purged to end their shame.

>>150823703
>Implying there aren't people who simply don't want off-topic threads on the board

>>150816664 (OP)
ignoring all the /pol/ talk and posting the best /co/ relevant content Christopher Columbus has ever been in;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAyIye_SIVU

>>150821535
They see the pushback against Columbus as woke commies trying to ruin the proud patriotic history they were taught and they're both sort of right and sort of wrong. The glorification of Columbus was pushed by Italian-Americans as what amounted to a PR campaign to show that Italians had contributed to American history so much they found the damn country. This at a time where being an Italian was seen as being a Catholic and thus an evil papist pawn who would sell America and godly Protestants out to the evil devil worshipping Pope even though when most of these boomers whining about Columbus Day were still young, being Italian and/or Catholic was still very iffy (JFK was thought to be a longshot in 1960 precisely because he was Catholic).

But woke leftists also did use the black legend against Columbus to do their own historical revisionism and try and make the day to be about natives because progressive leftists have had an obsession with natives going back to the Red Power movements of the 1970s. The actual people who should be pissed about all of this are Italian-Americans as a day they essentially created to celebrate their heritage has been erased by progressives in favor of being about people who aren't Italian-American in the name of "fighting racism" while being coopted by right-wing Protestant nutjobs who hate them and think they're idolatrous followers of the anti-christ simply beause their political opponents hate it.

The actual way to fix it would have just been to turn it into Italian-American Day and give people free slices of pizza because who the fuck doesn't want free pizza?

>>150822115
You do know most used in the Western World are white?

>>150826106
You know this thread has nothing to do with comics & cartoons right?

>>150823821
>The actual way to fix it would have just been to turn it into Italian-American Day and give people free slices of pizza because who the fuck doesn't want free pizza?
That is the absolute worst way to deal with it.
Columbus Day is a celebration of a specific Italian and his specific contribution to history. His accomplishments are thought of, and, whether rightly or not, people end up thinking a bit better of Italians for it. It apparently worked out okay, because, as you said, being Italian and/or Catholic used to be very iffy.
If you name it after the whole group, it's just pointless. It doesn't bring to mind any accomplishments, but stereotypes at best and resentment at worst.
People should value accomplishment. People should respect those who have accomplished great things and strive to do great things themselves. Even if most never do, it's noble to try. They should value that, and not that they were born to one ancestry or another.

>>150821616
he was a papist and a filthy dago nigger.