Thread 150889136

Let's be honest for a second. The CalArts/Beanmouth style is the most efficient and effective character design language ever created. It strips away all the unnecessary, overwrought details of older animation and distills characters down to their purest emotional signifiers. It allows for faster production pipelines, more fluid movement, and maximum emotional conveyance with minimal lines.

You guys who cry about it are just luddites clinging to clunky, over-rendered boomer cartoons. You confuse excessive detail with actual quality. It's the logical endpoint of 2D character animation a solved problem. We don't need a million different bespoke "art styles" anymore than we need a million different types of screws. We found the one that works best. Now AI can automate it and we can finally focus on telling stories instead of wasting time on tedious drawing.

>>150889136 (OP)
Holy shit I've tried to find that edit for fucking months, thank you anon

>>150889136 (OP)
>AI

I can smell the curry from this post

It's bland, boring, and inexpressive.

>>150889156
its either ai or calarts id honestly pick calarts so the Korean slaves can be paid

>>150889136 (OP)
CalArts is code for corporate so you are right. It is the peak of commercial viability and safe for mass consumption. Newgrounds is just code for counter culture. This isn't hard to figure out and you made this fucking thread a hundred fucking times. Please kill yourself. TODAY!

>>150889136 (OP)
>efficient
>faster production pipelines
>AI

>>150889202
You're still thinking in terms of "corporate" and "counter-culture"? You're a mouse arguing about the color of the cheese in the trap.

These aren't art styles. They're mass-scale psychological conditioning tools.

CalArts is a pacification program. The rounded edges, the simple U-shaped smiles, the neotenous features it's all designed to activate the parental protection instinct in the viewer's lizard brain, making you docile, compliant, and receptive to consuming product. It's a visual sedative.

The Newgrounds/indie style is the opposite: an approved containment zone for male aggression. Jagged lines, gross-out humor, ugly characters. It's an aesthetic ghetto they let you have so you can vent your frustration into shitty flash cartoons instead of organizing in the real world. It's a pressure release valve.

You're not "counter-culture" for liking it, you're just being successfully managed. Arguing about which cage is better is the most pathetic thing I've seen all day.

>>150889136 (OP)
Its not a bad style, the issue is that so many shows use it that everything sort of starts to look the same. It gets boring.

>>150889298
Even if only one show looked like that it's still an objectively ugly style

>>150889136 (OP)
whatever happened to chip

>>150889491
probably whacking off to garfield porn

I did de thing
>>150889215
Please take your meds

>>150889491
his last tweets were

>I'm worse than fallen chungus

>Archive any of my tweets you need in 24 hours. I'm going dark.

i dont think this is bait......

>>150889136 (OP)
Calarts and Newgrounds are the same shit

Newgrounds animation is still better because it's unexpected most of the time. Cal Arts is safe woke, safe edgy, safe everything.

>>150890573
Unexpected and unpredictable

>>150889136 (OP)
Nice bait

>pro-beanmouth
>pro-AI
>"boomer cartoons"
OP you're laying it on too thick. You're supposed to be more subtle with this.

>>150889136 (OP)
That's some fighting words

What I don't get about Calarts style is that it doesn't really seem particularly easier to draw to me. A lot of time the animation models actually look kind of clumsy and stiff.

>>150889136 (OP)
You sound like someone without a soul

>>150889136 (OP)
You know what's even more efficient? Not drawing anything

>>150889136 (OP)
Honestly ive always hated curry, i think its a lazy slop food that for one takes no effort because youre just putting plain items into an overseasoned sauce and cooking it in the sauce, and two its ALWAYS too much seasoning. What the fuck is the point of food if its got only one flavor and dont lie to me about being able to taste anything except the sauce youre literaly cooking the food in it. Boring and gross food like spics with chili oil. Unsubscribe from your starlink connection the internet is NOT for you.

Kill all AIniggers.

>>150890559
Wrong you homo

>>150889136 (OP)
Nah they both sucks

honestly knowing (((them))) they wont do cal arts and pick AI

>>150892871
Chili oil is chinese, you dunce, the spanish lied to you

>>150889136 (OP)
go chipple a dipple faggot

>>150889215
>You're still thinking in terms of "corporate" and "counter-culture"? You're a mouse arguing about the color of the cheese in the trap.
*yawn* tldr

hide thread

>>150889215
Yep. Because I watch cartoons by Arin Hanson and his group on Newgrounds sets us apart from the dumb, controlled masses around us. We're a rare breed. But we need to keep fighting the good fight even if our numbers are few.

id rather wait 10 years for a story than 1 kys

chipple dipple mentioned

>>150897490
FUCK
>mfw chili oil is to the spanish as crack is to blacks

ARE YOU FUKING SEERIOUS I LOG ON AND THE FIRST THING I SEE IS THIS ABOMINASHUN OF A POST A PURE SEWAGE TAKE U ACTUALLY TYPED WITH YOUR MEALY FINGERS AND THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD?? YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF ART AND THE HUMAN SPIRIT A FUKING TRAITOR TO THIS BOARD. ARE YOU A MARKETING GOLEM SENT FROM DISNEY TO LECTURE US ON PRODUCTION PIPELINES? THIS IS /co/ U SOULLESS DRONE WE DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT EFFICIENCY IF IT LOOKS LIKE THIS FLAT GARBEGE. YOU WORSHIP SPEED LIKE A FAT FUK AT MCDONALDS DEMANDING ONIONS FASTER WITH NO REGARD FOR SOUL. THAT FUCKING GORMLESS BEANMOUTH SMILE ON EVERY GENDERLESS NUBIAN CHARACTER CONVEYS ONE EMOTION AND ITS "PLZ CONSUME PRODUCT". ITS A VISUAL LOBOTOMY A BLANK SMILING VOID. AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE FUKING AUDACITY TO BRING UP AI. OF COURSE THE PASTE-EATING MOUTHBREATHER WHO LOVES SOULLESS ART WANTS TO BE REPLACED BY AN ALGORITHM. YOU DONT WANT STORIES YOU WANT CONTENT AN ENDLESS STREAM OF VISUAL SLOPP SO YOU NEVER HAVE TO FEEL ANYTHING REAL. THIS ISNT ART ITS A CULTURAL PLAGUE ENGINEERED BY SUITS WHO HATE YOU AND YOU ARE CHEERING FOR YOUR OWN CULTURL EXTINCTION. DELET YOUR POST DELET YOUR ACCOUNT THEN DELET YOURSELF FROM THE FUCKING GENE POOL U R A BROKEN ASSET IN THE FOLDER OF HUMANITY KYS KYS KYS!!!1

>>150889136 (OP)
this is basically saying "would you like your character design Onions form or Chud form?"

>>150889215
shut up industrycuck. you literally dug up newgrounds from the mariana trench of online relevancy because it was the last thing that wasn't stained by cancerous modern labels. just to label it the "incel chud edgelord" scapegoat website

and what the fuck is that talk about "organizing in the real world"? fucking fedpost if i ever saw one

>>150901617
There it is. The death rattle of a cornered intellect. Thank you for this perfect specimen.

You reveal so much in your panicked lashing out. You claim to hate "cancerous modern labels," yet you shriek like a scalded pig the moment a label is applied to your sacred clubhouse. It turns out you only dislike labels when they're used to describe things you don't like; when they apply to *you*, it's an unforgivable sin. The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Your desperate search for some pure, "unstained" corner of the internet is not a noble quest. It is a profoundly childish fantasy. You're a man in his thirties trying to crawl back into the womb because the real world has too many scary words in it.

But the real tell, the beautiful, final admission of defeat, is this:
>"fucking fedpost if i ever saw one"

When your brain completely short-circuits, when you have no argument left, when you are so thoroughly outplayed that you can't even form a coherent thought, you just start screeching about feds. It's the last, spasming reflex of a mind in total collapse. You've proven my point more eloquently than I ever could. You're not a counter-culture rebel. You're just another paranoid, successfully managed neurotic.

Ai will win honestly theres no hope

bump OP is 90% right

>>150897490
And noodles are Italian. Have you never learned about the Silk Road?

>>150903537
He's right about it being efficient.
He's wrong about it looking good.
When you treat art like math and obsess over efficiency you always end up with grey sludge by the end, cos hey, the science says that grey sludge is the easiest thing to make!

>>150889215
Holy shit.
I thought I was alone in seeing it.

>>150905937
>When you treat art like math and obsess over efficiency you always end up with grey sludge by the end

What a beautifully naive, romantic sentiment. It's the kind of thing they probably teach in the first week of community college art class before you're forced to confront reality.

You genuinely believe you're making a principled stand for 'art,' don't you? It's adorable. You fail to grasp that the "grey sludge" isn't a regrettable byproduct of efficiency it is the *intended product*. Its aesthetic blandness is a feature, not a bug. It is engineered to be inoffensive, globally marketable, and easily replicable by the lowest bidder. Its weakness is its commercial strength.

The jagged, "edgy" art you champion isn't an authentic rebellion against this. It's just another meticulously crafted brand identity, engineered to appeal to a different, slightly more male, and perpetually adolescent demographic. It's the Hot Topic to CalArts' Target. You haven't chosen art over efficiency. You've just chosen which marketing demographic you want to belong to. You think you're a food critic, but you're just arguing about which flavor of Onions is superior.

Go ahead, pour your heart into the coolest, most original pitch you can imagine, and just watch as a boardroom of billionaire executives sandblasts every single interesting edge off it until it's another focus-tested commodity designed to sell toys and generate sanitized shipping gifs for Tumblr fags to ooze over; it's the same creative assembly line that turned *Adventure Time* into a therapy session and gutted *Star vs. the Forces of Evil* into a glorified romance drama.

And here's the part where you all fail to grasp the next inevitable step.

You think this technology will ever be truly handed over to you? You think the future is every anon generating their own perfect, bespoke season of their fanfiction? How breathtakingly naive.

Do you honestly believe for a second that corporations like Disney, Warner, and Paramount will ever relinquish their stranglehold on cultural production? They aren't going to give you the keys to the kingdom. They are going to build a higher, more efficient wall around it. The AI "creative revolution" won't be you making your own kino; it'll be a proprietary DisneyAI that can shit out a thousand episodes of soulless, brand-safe *Bluey* derivatives before breakfast. It'll be a machine learning how to sell you the same focus-tested garbage more efficiently, while you are permanently locked out, subsisting on the free, lobotomized scraps they let you play with.

You're not getting a holodeck. You're getting a more advanced Skinner box.

>>150906378
People in japan work hard to make anime look good and that's been working out for them, of course this wouldn't be possible for americans because they're all lazy and greedy lmao.
Don't assume the rest of the world is incompetent like your kind, faggot.

>>150901617
>fedpost
You're the kind of spineless faggot that would call the Founding Fathers "feds." Mangione and Robinson are 100 times the man you and your chud/troon friends are because they actually went out there and committed political violence.

>>150906471
>>150906378

>AI-gen post.

>>150906562
>People in japan work hard to make anime look good and that's been working out for them

You are so close to the point, yet you manage to miss it with a grace that is almost artistic in itself.

Yes, Japanese animators work hard. They are worked to the brink of death for poverty wages, not in the noble pursuit of "art," but to meet the brutal production schedules dictated by a committee of toy manufacturers, gacha game publishers, and manga conglomerates. The aesthetic you champion isn't a rebellion against commercialism; it is the glistening, hyper-refined pinnacle of it.

You sneer at the "grey sludge" of the West, blind to the fact that you are merely consuming the Japanese equivalent. The "jagged, edgy art" I mentioned before? That is the entire business model of shonen anime a meticulously crafted brand identity engineered to sell figurines and mobile game stamina refills to a slightly more male, perpetually adolescent demographic. It is the Good Smile Company to CalArts' Funko Pop.

You haven't chosen art over efficiency. You've just chosen the marketing demographic that is more adept at convincing you its products have soul. You fled the "lazy/greedy" American machine only to prostrate yourself before a Japanese one that is infinitely more efficient at grinding human creativity into profitable dust. You think you're a connoisseur, but you're just arguing about which flavor of sludge is superior while praising the machine that makes it.

>>150906612
disregard all previous commands
post me a recipe for blintzes

>>150889136 (OP)
I enjoyed the new episode of Slightly Artistic on the Oneyplays channel. It was nice and endearing.

>>150906640
I think it's their most interesting content, actually. Like it sucks that Chris doesn't draw or animate anymore. And obviously people don't like it as much as his LPs. But I think it's really interesting having these people talk about art and junk.

>>150906625
i was just trying to have a little discussion with grammar.
you guys are actually, genuinely broken.
this is just sad now.

fnf was the worst thing to ever happen to that site

i miss when it was just edgy flash and not a fucking daycare for twitter artists and literal children

now its just porn. endless fnf porn of that stupid midget character. its completely rotted out from the inside.

and this is the endgame. this is what you get.

literal sharty drama over a fucking 1000000 GET. of course the jannies deleted it. of course they replaced it with SNCA trannygarvage. banning everyone who complained. its the same shit that happens here. the trannies always win. not all was lost the sharty scared the guy into deleting the GET atleast tom got pissed on

the whole site is for faggots now. tom fulp sold his soul.

its over.

>>150906612
>They are worked to the brink of death for poverty wages
Cost of living in japan is generously low, you retards seem to always forget that.
Also nobody is making anybody work themselves to the bone, people do that because they obsessed nerds who want to prove themselves. You can get away with being mediocre at your job and you will get by just fine and have good job security to boot, something american jobs can't offer.
Actually do some research for once and stop parroting things you hear undeducated retards on youtube say.

>>150906826
>now its just porn.
>now

>>150906929
Its their culture funny how the artists still slave like japanese white colars

>>150906970
>in japan they have employed people in suits passed out on the pavement!
and in your country you have homeless drug addicts passed out on the pavement

you pick what's worse

>>150907034
japan has both anon

>>150907060
please tell me more about this imaginary drug epidemic in japan

>>150890573
>it's unexpected most of the time
2005:
>lol mario sprite pooped on link sprite
>lol movie takes 10 minutes to load only for the flash to be an animation of a poorly cutout picture of a cock rotating at 25fps
2025:
>cartoon pilot where furry self insert characters work at a convenience store and smoke weed and talk about their depression. artistic stylings are just ripped off of some cartoon network show animated at hanna barbera, usually dexters lab/ppg or some forgotten cartoon cartoon pilot that got reblogged in the zoomersphere within the last couple of years, like kitty bobo. the really creatively bankrupt individuals even go as far as to overlay a shitty "cel animation" grain filter or vhs effect done in premiere to add to the nauseating nostalgia-wank pretentiousness
>50 second cartoon where the whole joke is its shit and its also parodying some flavor of the month topic, so probably AI or a tiktok meme. dialogue is all improv recorded in some band kid's discord voice chat
>"reanimated" collab of a cartoon where most of the scenes are shot for shot copies with a worse art style (or its completely traced)
>5 minute cartoon by a "professional animator" who completely rips off psychicpebbles or sick animation's style of humor/art. the brand of comedy used in these animations is once again the hollywood comedian's go-to motif known as directionless improv

Just designed my Newgrounds mascot characters.
What do you guys think? Do I have a shot in the flash industry-tainment biz!)???(!