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This was a perfect Lex

>>150936301 (OP)
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>>150936301 (OP)
Seems odd he was such an autistic planning genius but was baffled at how superman escaped when he was locked up with a dude who could make a mini sun

>>150936301 (OP)
No. This was.

>>150936328
Too nice desu

>>150936326
It's because his one constant miscalculation is perpetually underestimating the good in people.

>>150936328
Lex and Lionel are the only reasons Smallville is worth watching. Those last couple of seasons after they exit the show are unwatchable dogshit.

You're telling me you don't read Lex Luthor in his voice?

>>150936460
SUPERBOY ME MAN

>>150936326
It’s funny you refer to Luthor as autistic when the character in the movie that’s obviously intended to be autistic is Kal.

>>150936301 (OP)
He was a cringe Luthor.

DCAU still the best

>>150936301 (OP)
He was pretty gud, but his plan in Peacemaker S2 is so mindnumbingly retarded.
>whole new uninhabited earth dimension
>make it a prison lmao

>>150936301 (OP)
Probably the best Lex Luthor we had despite the movie itself being bad.

>>150936301 (OP)
>This was a perfect Lex
Then Lex is a shit character.

>>150936460
this is the correct lex luthor
all others pale in comparison
a distant second was smallville lex who was better as the flash
>>150936301 (OP)
he was whiny and annoying and not at all intimidating 3/10

>>150936630
The obvious hint is that Lex cares far more about access to perfectly stable inter dimensional portal tech and access to other dimensions than just building a prison. That was Flaggs goal

Moustache guy literally says something about it being what Lex was looking for when he mentions the alien portal is completely stable compared to theirs which collapse if kept open more than a couple mins

>>150936301 (OP)
Too much of a crying bitch that you can't take seriously

>>150936301 (OP)
He's a good Lex, a great one even, real fun take on the character... but nobody will ever beat Clancy Brown.

>>150936301 (OP)
He was a'ight.

>>150936326
Lex thought Rex wouldn't put his faith in Superman saving his son.

>>150936301 (OP)
Autistic and gay. Nope.

>>150936301 (OP)
Yeah I teally liked how petty he was.

>>150937557
>t. Snydershill

>>150936301 (OP)
He was a cringe Luthor

Synderverse lex is still best

>>150936735
>whiny and annoying and not at all intimidating
/co/ loves these kinds of villains, though.

>>150937653
>calls something cringe
>posts the single cringiest portrayal of Luthor ever
This has to be a joke.

>>150937981
>cringiest portrayal of Luthor ever
That's not the Gene Hackman-Kevin Spacey Luthor

>>150936328
they act like two legends cannot coexist

>>150937981
He was a young, eccentric entrepreneur who despised all gods and sought to expose their human weaknesses and destroy them.

It's far more compelling than an evil businessman/scientist who's jealous of Superman.

>>150939578
Silence pajeet.

>>150939578
>He was a young, eccentric entrepreneur
This could have worked with the right execution
>who despised all gods and sought to expose their human weaknesses and destroy them.
However, he was never given a good reason whatsoever for this. "I hate aliens/gods because daddy beat me" was retarded. Top that off with the piss tea shit and other similarly retarded scenes and he ends up being one of the worst portrayals of the character period.

>>150936420
This. This version of Lex understands that other people are good and have empathy (he specifically uses that against Superman, because he knows that harming innocent people will cause Superman distress) but he doesn't really understand what that means. He sees it only as a weakness to be used against them, not a strength that can work in their favor. He is continuously thwarted because he doesn't expect other people to work together.
If Superman was really fighting alone with no friends, Lex would have won. Flat out. But he gets beaten because he completely overlooks the support network of other people who like Superman and are willing to help him.
Lex was unironically beaten by the power of friendship.

>>150937653
nice Joker bro

>>150936301 (OP)
Lex Luthor doesn't cry.
This spoiled emo brat did.

>>150936301 (OP)
i agree, but it's not enough to make up for the shit syperman

>>150936460
Why, no I don't, Mr. Squidward! You think I'm one of those young boys still reading funneebooks? Arghrhrhrhrhr! Now get ta work!

>>150936301 (OP)
no.

>>150942573
>Amazo
>Literally becomes the most powerful thing in the whole series
>Needs to be written off because he would just fix/save everything/everybody

>>150939578
Gunnverse Luthor was literally what Snyder was trying to do with his Luthor only actually faithful to the character and not aggressively, hilariously awful.

Updating Lex to make him less of an old school industrialist billionaire and more of a modern tech bro billionaire makes sense, but there's a right way to do that and a wrong way to do that. Snyder made his Lex too weird, nasally, unintimidating and autistic. Gunn still made his Lex a weird autistic techbro, but he's also got some gravitas and aura to him that Snyderverse Lex just couldn't grasp.

>>150936301 (OP)
>This was a perfect Lex
yes

>>150936301 (OP)
>perfect lex luthor
>does not look like lex luthor

i will NEVER understand how ANYTHING gets funded in hollywood. holy shit.

>>150937653
This is what the culture machine does to things you love.
And it makes billions of dollars doing it.

>>150945590
I bet you're the same sort of person who wants to cast porn stars as superheroes because all you care about is cup size, not whether they can act better than a middle schooler whose starring role in the play is "tree"

>>150936301 (OP)
> Cuckold
I can see why Gunn relates to him

>>150945590
>saar he do not look like him benchot mabarahat!!!!
why is it always the dumbest mfers talking

>>150937653
As much as I understand why people hate this version of Lex, I will always respect Zuckerberg for portraying the character the way he did because he based his portrayal on that faggot Max Landis.

>>150936301 (OP)
and the only good thing in that shitty movie

sons of anarchy lex was so much better, he's better than zukerberg lex but not by a lot

>>150936315
>ha my perfect plan to defeat the man with super hearing involes my verbally shouting orders
>i will kidnap and inprison anybody who has ever wronged me including several ex girlfriends
>hi Mr. Senator. I am admitting that I injected nanites into a woman amongst other crimes against humanity ANNNND I b&e'd Superman's house to get info on his parents

Yeah. This is that criminal genius I was telling you about.

>>150936301 (OP)
I like how it perfectly captured how much of a petty shit Luthor is, like this is the Luthor I can totally imagine blaming his baldness on that blasted Superman.

>>150937617
Snyder's was so autistic and gay. You're mentally retarded

>>150946688
Oh I didn't even mention keeping around the obvious spy who not only cucked him with JIMMY OLSEN but would ultimately be the reason his plan failed
>uhm actually she was just a dumb blonde who didn't know she had incriminating evidence
Sure bud. The wanted to re-do the original Ms. Tesmacher betrayal and failed horribly. Original Tessmacher only freed Superman under the condition that he would save her mother first. She didn't have a change if heart which is why she continues to work with Lex in the Superman 2.

>>150937653
I don't think he was that bad as Lex. As long as you headcanon his Lex having autism.

>>150936301 (OP)
In this movie it was the only "good thing" despite having no self persevation. Although his plans were beyond retarded.
>>150946688
>Muh ha ha. I'll hide my secret connection to Bavaria on an Island where music is blaring 24/7!
>I'll hire Guards who are so inept that Mister Terrific can just land on the island with a reporter and walk away!
If Lex Luthor isn't essentially Light Yagami but bald he ain't Lex Luthor.

>>150946791
This Lex was so horribly incompetent it was laughable.

>>150937653
I liked the way his sentences were all play on words and turns of phrases. But I wouldn't say he was the best Luthor.

I think the only one who comes close is S&L's version. I liked the way he took joy in torturing Bizzaro as if he was the real Superman. The scene where he stomps on the heart was cool and we finally got the mech suit... whatever he stole it from John Henry but it was still an effort. He just wasn't as smart as I'd have liked.

How do you think prison is treating Lex?

>>150946815
I don't even have to mention how retarded the gun scene was. The real Lex would have either gone in knowing which chamber the bullet was in, shot the man in various non lethel ways if he didn't, or come in and just shot the man to show he wasn't fucking around.
In this it's almost played like a joke that he was so retarded as not know playing roulette with a hostage was dumb. If that's the way they wanted to go they should've allowed Superman's X-ray vision so he could see that the shot was coming. Actually giving him that hard choice of giving his identity up to his enemy. But no. Lex is a retard.

>>150936301 (OP)
I never thought I would see Lex fucking Luthor suffer a humiliation ritual. This shit was awful.

>>150936301 (OP)
>I'm a genius
>that's why I do the stupidest shit imaginable for the most retarded reasons anyone could think of

So, of course, someone who's seen the movie has come in and started making points and the Gunnkeys have scattered like rats. No use fighting the slop if no one wants to actually enjoy it.

>>150939578
You didn't watch the movie. >>150939698
This guy did however and he's still wrong. The thing about Lex Luthor that Snyder AND even Gunn slightly touched on (in the most ass-backwards way) is that he believes he's doing the right thing. He thinks Superman is a threat to be stomped out like an infestation. Is there an underlying jealousy? Sure. But it isn't as blatant as Gunnigger made it. The reason it doesn't make sense in that movie is because he doesn't hate all aliens. You got Hawkgirl and Guy Gardner running free from Lex's ire. Its just Superman because thats how it is in the comics.
Also amongst other things Gunn ripped off from the Snyder movies Lex creating a creature to destroy Superman only works if the creature is better than Superman. Hell even Nuclear Man in Superman 4 almost won.

>>150946900
Apparently in that Peacemaker show nobody watched Lex is free and working for Amanda Waller? I dunno. It sucks you have to watch that shit in order to be caught up in the sequel. Glad I won't be around for that.

>>150946688
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>>150946791
The difference between this Lex and say the Lex on Smallville (which is a better and fairer comparison to make than say to a comic book version or even the version from the DCAU or any animated movies) is that Gunn is a lazy, uncreative type of hack that can push out a technically sufficiently proficient and entertaining enough movie that most people wouldn't complain but the plot has more holes than Swiss cheese, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Yes, the 1A, 1A stuff played well in theaters, the prison appeared to be a good idea until it clearly wasn't, and people who are supposed to be running shit, in the government, armed forces, administration, etc., are too stupid to pay attention or notice, but hey, SHE CAN MAKE BLADES WITH HER HANDS!

>>150947222
You know what I like about Smallville? It took the idea of Superman and Luthor being friends as kids and ran with it. Thats why I enjoy films like Prince of Egypt. No matter what happens in that universe they'll have that history. You get none of that in any other movie or show. I wish more of them would.

>>150947290
You would not believe how much I've been enjoying this book. I may actuakly get a physical copy

Still waiting for the Gunnkeys to come back with reasons why this was the best Luthor

>>150947689
Brother, chill.

>>150947689
he screams a lot and he really hates superman for some reason which is silver age comic book accurate foxy shazam punk rock

>>150947689
i like him for the presentation. he was acting cocky while he had the upperhand and thre a tantrum while things were going south, knocking over the cup of pens. i like how is ego was his biggest weakness, being too mad that his girlfriend was sending sexy selfies to another man to know what the consequence of those sexy selfies were. i like that he just hates superman and that everything was built around fucking with supes, that part where he says "i don't want to kill you so i can finish the war is [i forget the country's name] i started the war so i could have an excuse to kill you!"

this was a damn good take luthor and i just can't get why he seems to have a following if haters

>>150947968
>this was a damn good take luthor and i just can't get why he seems to have a following if haters

Syndercultists upset that they have been outclassed, anon. Never underestimate the dedication of spite.

>>150948058
you have me mistaken, i like snyder's take on dc more. i fucking hate this movie, but lex is good

somehow eisenberg riddler is good now and I'm indian or something

>>150936328
He was badly hampered by the fact he wasn't allowed to actually fight Superman

>>150947968
What am I even supposed to say this? You essentially said the same thing as>>150947943
but unironically. I like Lex because he hates Superman? This is it? He's petty therefore its good? He's a fucking moron and the least accurate Lex since Smallville.
Anyone who thinks being a petty baby is what makes Luthor a good antagonist has probably only seen two things.
>1. Lex hates Superboy because he caused his hairloss
>2. Lex had god-like powers and had to think about saving the universe or killing Superman
Everything in this dogshit, knuckledragger, faggot fucking movie is the ultimate flanderization of Superman. Shit felt like a parody and wasn't even funny.

>>150948209
i see, you hate it because it's a different take. thanks for letting me know so i can discard your opinion.

>>150948279
No. I hate it because its a bad take. Just because something is different doesn't mean it's good.
>*Tearfully*And someday I hope you realize that!

>>150948319
but the only reason anyone here calls it bad is because it's not like the one they know. this take is different and good

>>150948342
Again you aren't saying why he's good. You just say he's petty. Or now you've switched to saying he's different. Eisenberg was different. Does that make him good? Was he even good for that movie? Forget comparing him to any other Lex. Was he good for BvS? Was this Lex good for Superman Legacy? I will say no because he's the most retarded chacter in that movie despite being a supposed criminal genius.

I actually think characters not acting like themselves is a good thing, actually

>>150936301 (OP)
The casting was mid, but the writing was on point for Luthor's personality.

>>150948420
i gave you a list of reasons for why i liked him in this movie. no one's switched anything.

>>150947199
For anyone who doesn't want to watch Peacemaker, here's the important stuff.
>Argus is now run by Rick Flag instead of Amanda Waller
>Lex made a deal with Argus to get himself out of prison
>Argus has access to an alien device that creates stable interdimensional portals to a number of crazy dimensions
>Lex is being given access to that tech
>Flag found a dimension that seems earth-like and uninhabited and wants to use it as a metahuman prison

>>150937653
Someone Itt said he was a good modern portrayal of a billionaire? I disagree. Even Battinson did that better. I'll say Zuckerberg Lex was a good portrayal of a smart person. The way he speaks is in a way that he understands. A lot of his words are inside jokes that only he would get and he always sounds like he's got something in his head and he needs the person he's speaking to to catch up. I'm the exact same way but I'm not a genius.

>how about that reporter you always do interviews with? yes, i'm going to kill clark kent
gunn did good with this lex

>>150948466
Again. Being petty isn't a reason why this was a good character.

>>150948481
wow prison lasted what, a single episode of a different tv show? Amazing cause and effect

>>150948495
but the way it is presented is

>>150948501
No. It's not. The character sacrifices his intellect so he can be a man child. That's not good writing dude.

>>150948481
Oh fuck this is shit.

>>150948481
Imagine if in captain america 1 they started setting up kang lol

>>150948481
Nowhere in the show does it say he is free

>>150938032
Nah. At least that version fit the tone of the movies it's from.
Snydershit Luthor is just Jim Carrey Riddler-tier abomination in a movie desperately trying to be taken seriously.

>>150948481
Wait so... what the fuck? So lex is using intergang boom tubes in the movie? I thought he created it? So why the hell did Terrific know how to shut it down? why does it get shut down using a fucking earth laptop? NO FUCKING WAY WHY DID THEY PUT THIS IN A SHOW NOBODY WATCHES
This universe is cooked. You need to be so retarded to be hyped for it.

>>150948580
Hope you're ready for a washed, greying hal and the zestiest john you've ever aeen

>>150939698
The lollypop scene was very uncomfortable

>>150948580
The portals Lex was using in Superman were totally human made, which is why they were unstable.
This alien device that makes portals is new shit he didn't have then. It's unknown in origin, but it's not boom tubes.

>>150948501
If you want a petty character done correctly I recommend the Penguin. Kingpin in Daredevil is also a good petty character where no offense goes unpunished. Not /co/ but Doc Holliday in Tombstone is petty and goes out of his way to fuck with someone even while he's dying. But this Lex? This was just shit. And the fact that he has to literally scream into the camera
>I AM PETTY AND JEALOUS
like the audience wouldn't get that? How can you possibly say this was a good character?

>>150948514
>sacrifices
nothing was sacrificed, that's all in your head. you want your own lex and frame it as a legitimate reason for why this one is bad. rich manchild with lots of resources is a good villain.

>>150948550
Oh yeah I guess the deal was for a transfer to a better prison which he'll promptly escape or something.
It's Lexcorp that's being given access to the alien technology. Which means Lex will have it eventually.

>>150948621
Ahh okay. Whatever. I still think it was immensely dumb for villain to just casually be making portals and injecting nanites and cloning people. Clones are one thing Lex is known for but even for Superman's archnemesis its too fucking much.

>>150937981
I liked the idea of portraying Lex as a Zuck/Elon tech bro but the execution was terrible

>>150948634
You took the word sacrifice too literally. That's my mistake. His intelligence and demenor suffers as a result of his temper tantrums. Example: This guy uses a mug and talks so only Superman can hear him to cause him to go into a rage. However because he chose to fling pencils at some girlfriend his entire plan is put to ruin. He is shown to be confident in and know what he's doing. Down to the most minute detail. But it isn't consistant. He breaks into Superman's house, leaving evidence that it was him and has no idea what he can find until it's handed to him. However he has no failsafes for if Superman escapes. This was a bad character.

Do you have any examples of him being a good chracter?

>>150948729
the only problem i see are the things you made up. he was not shown to be meticulous in this movie so the supposed inconsistency doesn't hold up if that's what you base it on. my example of him being a good character were the scenes you described. i liked watching him be a cocky cock when he thought he was winnin, and throw a temper tantrum when he found himself losing. the oversight of his girl's sexy selfies was a good character because he's presented as self centered.

>>150936328
Why was this 20 year old hanging out with 16 year olds?

>>150948939
I made nothing up. If he wasn't meticulous he wouldn't have been secretely trading with Boravia so he could own Jarranpoor. He wouldn't have gone out of the way to not only hide Ultraman's true face but also hide his regular costume in the Hammer of Boravia get up. Instead of letting Knife Hands go into the Fortress he pulls her back, he unleashes a monster in order to distract superman, and then invades the fortress. These are the actions of a careful planner.
However this is the same person who didn't realize he was being cucked by his girlfriend. Who openly has former ex girlfriends and haters that disappear and who admits to illegally invading the Fortress and stealing shit. He also opens a black hole in the city without any indication of where he'll land.
These are not the actions of a smart man. Petty. Cocky. These words mean nothing if you can't describe what about them makes it good.

>>150949032
i did describe what makes him good. i mentioned some of the scenes i liked, you just keep on fanfictioning. this lex is a brat with resources and i like that.

>>150937653
BOYS
MMMM

>>150946947
I think it works fine. Lex was operating under the assumption that he'd be able to toy with Superman for as long as liked, unopposed. It doesn't matter that the russian roulette didn't last as long as he intended it to, because he was about to do it every single day until Supes actually cracked under the weight of all the dead prisoners.

>>150949204
>fanfictioning
I'm describing scenes from the movie. I wosh it was merely fanfiction but it is not. This is the reality. If it sounds horrible it's because it came from a horrible movie.

>>150949427
Thats so motherfucking retarded. Why would Lex not just start gassing the prisoners he already has?

If they wanted a more comedic Lex both Gene Hackman and the boy toucher did it much better. I'm not grinning just because Krypto nearly maims a dude.

>>150949018
For the sex, why else do pedos do this?
You don't need to be an 80 year old orange fart to want to fuck someone in their youth.

>>150937653
Lies

No Snyderverse = No money

Keep the wallets closed.

>>150936301 (OP)
No, he was not. He was the same as Eisenberg's Lex but bald from the start. No difference whatsoever. You don't read comics and you're a movie-only slop consumer/secondary and you should kill yourself.

>>150936301 (OP)
It was great. No perfect, but great.

>>150949889
what i meant by that was that you keep creating versions of him so you can cry inconsistency. he's just a guy with a lot of resources and that's a good thing

>>150936646
Dammit this anon beat me to it
>>150937653
Aren't his first words in the movie literally "ahoy ahoy ahoy?"

>>150951495
Nah. Snyderverse is faggot shit made by a faggot who doesn't even like comics.

>>150936328
The goat

>>150951847
>Aren't his first words in the movie literally "ahoy ahoy ahoy?"
Yes because the movie has many thematic similarities to Moby Dick, King Arthur and the Round Table, and other high brow films. Unsuccesfully it trues to cram all the references into a genre where a man in spandex is supposed to beat up another man in spandex and audiences rejected it.

>>150952383
...right. All I saw was Mark Zuckerberg being a sperg

>>150952383
>moby dick
Oh, you read those reddit threads about the movie

>>150937653
I swear, SnyderCockSuckers are the funniest bunch. Hey champ, tell me again how Netflix will buy WB and bring back Snyderverse!

>>150936301 (OP)
Why is he and Superman so young in this movie?