Thread 150979734

You have buy your Knights of Guinevere merch, right anon?

>>150979734 (OP)
>supporting the show is BAD
Why does the ability to help fund something make you seethe?

>>150979754
I think it's more a kind of hurt they're expressing, at the fact that everything has become so commercialized and dependent on an endless revenue stream demanded by rotten suits. The art and fun keeps being spoiled by a constant reminder that they are BEGGING you to buy stuff because it's literally the only way life support is kept on, and that's an ugly turd in the good soup.

/co/ has spent literal decades saying we need to bring back toyetic cartoons that turn a profit on merch since relying on eceleb showrunners to advertise the shows on social media and having TV ads as the sole monetization source clearly isn't working out, I remember posts like this from 10+ years ago

Now that Glitch has done exactly that, it's a problem and they should fund themselves out of thin air

>>150979970
>Now that Glitch has done exactly that, it's a problem and they should fund themselves out of thin air

none of these motherfuckers know what they want anymore besides more outrage to feed their addiction

>>150979970
>>150980006
Regardless of necessity nobody likes being shilled to. There’s also just the irony of a Disneyland parody having to beg people to buy their merch just to stay afloat. The thing that gets me however is how lazy and boring the actual merch is. The Gwen fig is pretty ok, but those plushies just suck. For a project like Knights of Gwen you could be way more inventive with merchandising.

>>150979734 (OP)
Pay me money for being a genius about cartoons and I’ll consider it

I will only buy merch when they start selling Gwen androids I can fuck.

>>150980199
>For a project like Knights of Gwen you could be way more inventive with merchandising.

Anon, the reality is a lot more difficult than that. You can't just shit out crazy merch because that costs a LOT of money, as compared to plushies and the like, which can build them money without having to spend so much they take a huge risk. Do you see the economy? The current instability, lack of money? No shit nobody likes being shilled to! What choice do they have?

>>150980225
If production costs really are that big of a deal then why not just cut out the middle man and ask for money on Patreon? If I were a KOG fan I'd much rather give them my money directly rather than a chunk of it going to whoever manufactures the dolls.

>>150980266
Anon, a Patreon is not enough to fund a fucking show. Get real, christ. And how is that different from shilling with plushies? I get it, you despise this setup, we all do, but it's the reality because of rotten suits who destroyed the world economy and then refuse to fund ANYthing that isn't an onahole for the shareholders to rape.

Sorry, but I cannot support a show that doesn't have 100% race-accurate casting.

>>150980199
People shit on merchandising but that's how Disney survived the Great Depression. Early, Disney was always short on money. Without the extra money Disney might have died or get bought out by bigger company.

>>150979734 (OP)
I will when they release they Frankie body pillow.

I think this show looks rad but I don't want to support the show of the whiny art director who blocked me on social media because I pointed out the hypocrisy in their statement that "artists don't use shortcuts." Which is of course false.

Am I being a a bitch? Should I let bygones be bygones?

>>150979734 (OP)
20k for a life size real doll of Dana?
Shes cute as fuck and I want to breed her, but goddamn...
Thats car money.

>>150980349
Well no shit it's car money, because you're going to be taking her for a ride every single day.

>>150980341
If the merch shop has something you want that looks cool, then buy it. If it, then don't

>>150980365
When you put it that way...

>>150980266
>If production costs really are that big of a deal then why not just cut out the middle man and ask for money on Patreon?
If you crosscheck with other popular creators, you'll see the problem: the vast majority of people want to get more content but don't want to actually pay anything for it, which is why Patreon is ultimately unreliable

>>150979734 (OP)
I'm not trans

>>150979970
I'd say the /co/ ideal for funding is a rich guy doing patronage or artists working on their free time and not charging anything, but /co/ has also complained about the Nike kid in Laika or web artists not working hard enough on their stuff.

The truth is that /co/ isn't one person.

>>150980413
well it's a good goddamn thing then that KoG is not a trans show, with one character ADAMANTLY said to be a cis woman, NOT trans, despite the demands of the cult

>>150979734 (OP)
Nah, that pilot was ass.

I wanna eat out Frankie's pussy and ass.

>>150979970
I want toyetic shows back where I can be happy about kids playing with the toys
Fuck yes to playing with robots with guns and dinosaur-riding soldiers
I'm uncomfortable seeing them play with the noodly clown girl and the gender confused rabbit or whatever

>>150980787
I want to see her be forced to fight a Gwen to save her Gwen, and she gets really fucked up and bloodied and just SOAKED in red and blue gore

>>150979754
It's probably the fact that in the pilot itself that kind of merchandising is shown as evil megacorp shit that pollutes the environment and makes everyone sick so the creators also doing merchandise that pollutes the environment etc,etc could be seen as hypocritical.
On the other hand in that pilot the characters almost explicitly say "yeah the world sucks and we are working in ways that make it worse but we need to survive somehow" which is ultimately why they be selling Guinevere merch.

>>150980266
Jewtreon is a crapshoot. I've seen skilled artists and animators go from 800 paid members to under 100 with no sign of climbing back up

>>150979862
>>150980199
They're no Flashgitz, but Glitch tries to make ads at least a bit fun and I appreciate that.

>>150979970
There are a few fair arguments against toy commercial shows, but I am under the impression that most of the complaints are coming from industry people and aspirants. They want to do their thing. Corpos ordering them to put stuff in the shows interferes with the showrunners' narratives and pacing.

>>150981249
We've seen what they will create when left to their own devices.
Masturbatory nonsense guided by lunatics who hate everyone but their own incestuous protected group.

>>150980787
>this will make for a marketable plushie

Why didn't the go the rout of getting enough backers to make the first few episodes to then merc out?

>>150981063
It's strange to think how backwards the shows are. Guinevere would have operated better as a major show on tv while Owl House would have been more inline for an indie project

>>150980787
>>150982030
It's very comical how anyone knows this character is due to troons seething she's straight.

>>150982083
which is great, finally someone fights back against the cults, you look at her and immediately sigh in expectation, but no, 100% woman, not a fake one

>>150982073
>major show on tv
is TV still relevant? I thought it was replaced by online streaming services and piracy.

>>150979734 (OP)
They haven't put out any merch of Gwen and the girls getting their assholes turned inside out by Sir Galahad's 15 inch horsecock so no, I haven't bought anything.

Threesome with them while Guinevere record us

Do they have any shows in the works they'll announce when TADC ends next year?

>>150979734 (OP).
I’ll never forgive milennials for how badly they raped the meaning of the word "knight" in entertainment

>>150982902
imagine the smell

>>150982902
I was going to say that sounds unfair to the princess, but then I realized she probably doesn't have a functional vagiania any more.

>>150983062
still has a functional mouth?

>>150980818
why would you sign or watermark AI slop?
LOL

>>150979970
/pol/cels are not people but programmed NPCs anon
that do not represent /co/

>>150983101
She has pins in her cheeks, who knows what other sharp shit in in there? I mean, she's already traumatized, do you really want to take the risk of her accidentally shredding your dick because she's got a bunch of jagged metal bits in the roof of her mouth? Do you have any idea what that would do to her emotionally?

Stop being so selfish, Anon. You get in there and you fuck her friends in front of her so they can be relaxed and stress-free enough to repair her busted vagina.

>>150983177
>do you really want to take the risk of her accidentally shredding your dick because she's got a bunch of jagged metal bits in the roof of her mouth?
maybe...

>>150983296
Selfish. You're selfish. Sure it'll be fun for you, but how will she feel when all your blood and shredded penis chunks start pouring out of her mouth like wet pulled pork?

>>150980405
>there are several times more people paying for *checks notes* Questionable Content than Helluva Hazbin
unironically what's the secret?

I’m on the fence. I’d like a Gwen pin for my collection, but I dunno if I like the chibi style they went with.

>>150983197
yes they will be, they already exist in rudimentry form, you give that industry 10 years and they will move Heaven and Earth to deliver you a fuckbot because it might be THE most guaranteed source of income imaginable

>>150983481
>unironically what's the secret?
20 years of neverending drama that is like a comforting bowl of flavorless oatmeal for its ancient audience

>>150979862
>>150979821
Animation has always been supported by toy sales. The problem is that the alternative paths to profit like VHS/DVD/Bluray sales and ad revenue from cable aren't viable with how the world works now. Only the megahits/works that capture a merch market can survive, almost the same way that mid-budget movies dying out due to DVD sales disappearing has led to the steep decline of comedy and romcom films.

>>150980405
>>150983481
Same as the Flashgitz secret with patron, make a lot of shit ti get people established to your brand and then ask for the backing. Webcomics it's much easier as the time to draw up and distribute the product is much easier but in both cases it's the same effort. If those two clowns try to make Space King out the gate they would be as fucked as Guinevere here.

>>150983864
Yup, my point exactly. The situation is dire enough that extreme merch pushes is pretty much the only way to get a show funded, otherwise studios tell you to go burn in hell.

>>150983864
the situation is far more complicated than that. Mid-budget movies dying out had very little to do with DVD sales and more to do with the decline of people being interested in networking with each other. In the 1980s you have as much as 3/4ths your population out Friday night going on movie dates or taking the family out in general for said movie. Millennials failed so bad at the dating market that half of then to this day are single and without child and the younger generations are fairing no better, compound that with everyone having a deep fear of networking and socializing irl and you are lucky in major metros can even keep 1/4th the population out and active on a Friday night so sales of all social night light events suffer very fucking badly.

And this is also what kills shows from taking off or being made: No social cohesion. You don't have friends that share what they are doing and watching with you and so in turn you don't share anything either, this creates much smaller circles of pop culture media which is why everything is rotting away, you don't have a network of real friends that you all share your interest with so how can anything grow or be successful? Turns out that meme of "were the friends we made along the way" is vital for this media system to work.

>>150984009
>Millennials failed so bad at the dating market that half of then to this day are single and without child and the younger generations are fairing no better

Why the fuck do you think that is? 9/11, 2008, the rampancy of the internet, homes and cars becoming utterly unaffordable, wages stagnating from the day we were born; millennials were set up to fail.

>>150984138
Excuses, excuses

>>150983755
It's not enough to have a niche fuckbot. There has to be a common quality home android that anyone can openly own without public judgment... that happens to be fuckable.

>>150984227
based 50 year old chad

>>150984266
>It's not enough to have a niche fuckbot. There has to be a common quality home android that anyone can openly own without public judgment... that happens to be fuckable.

Yes? That's what I'm saying. Sex is a motivator like no other, and infinite sex with a robot is a legendary motivator. On top of all that, you multiply it again with the realization of "Sell bots that can sex, and then bleed people dry with subscriptions and additions and everything, which they'll happily pay for more endless robot sex". They'll figure out a way and social norms are gone so who fucking cares what people say?

>>150979734 (OP)
I might buy the Gwen plushie since I love the Glitch plushies despite them all being that same sitting down position.

>>150979734 (OP)
The creature is precious and must be protected.

>>150984138
Thing is half of them didn't fail. So what was their secret?

>>150979734 (OP)
No, but I did buy Lackadaisy merch

>>150980006
This should be stickied in every thread.

>>150980341
I can imagine the type of person you are and how that exchange *actually * transpired. I’d block you too.
Stop being a faggot on social media.

>>150979734 (OP)
I'm having to be the mature adult atm, so no additional spending. If they put something out of the damaged Gwen, that might make me reconsider.

>>150983145
AI fags are delusional. They think their prompts are “work”. I’ve seen prompters even get upset about people stealing their “work” which is funny for its hypocrisy.

Look, I just want to fuck Frankie okay? This isn't a huge request!

>>150984797
...being born into money. That's always the secret, anon.

>>150984138
It is always the fault of the economy. It seemed every 8 or so years there is some instability in the market that forces people from making huge life changing decision when they want to plan everything out. The real issue is brain washing everyone into thinking you have forever to find someone and start a family with. Millennials were spoon fed false promises for selfish gains at choosing for themselves first. Zoomers having is the same way but even with the technological edge they still are failing as hard.

Gen A from Millennial parents are going to have a huge economical reset with going into the labor market. This will be key. STEM is always the future and always a desirable career. There is no future being a fat lazy desk jockey.

>>150985344
I agree with a lot of this but you gotta pay attention to the destruction AI is cutting a swathe with, the white collar jobs are melting like wax and I don't think we're going to return to the kind of normality seen from 1950 to 2020.

>>150985451
AI is a real bubble of technological advancement and labor crunch. I honestly don't know what the cyber industry plans on doing to replace those jobs AI is suppose to be filling to cut cost on labor pay. I am paying attention and honestly don't know any other solution than a universal living wage to keep people from rioting in the streets and keeping order at gunpoint.

Or they will do like they did for the Great War and throw the access of people into a meatgrinder like they are doing in Russia. The death tax.

>>150985674
I really don't know either. It's all happening so fast and with so much money; one argument I've started to make more loudly is that we are in a situation that's becoming more unprecedented than precedent, and so it's dangerous to assume that we can as-easily guess what will happen next with the variables in play. I don't think forcing people into wars is going to work anymore though, they're going to have to think of something worse.

i hope Olivia gets back her young appearance somehow, i kind of got dissapointed that intsead of a cold and sadistic young girl we got a psycotic old woman, a far more common and tired villain archetype

>>150986990
Was also mad that we weren't getting a new Mandy type. Not interested in evil queen number X-Thousand.

>>150979734 (OP)
Frankie + Gwen paizuri

>>150979970
Nah, glitch dosen’t make toys, they just make figures and dolls. I want to stretch arm strong Jax, a flirty phrasing pomi figure, a linger with hun that actually shoots. A zooble potato head, a mask breaking Gangle you can put back together and switch out with drama or manager.
A Canie with wind up chattering teeth. Bubble bouncy ball, a Kaufmo in the box but when you wind it up out pops the abstraction.
A Ragatha rag, it soaked up water like she soaks up self loathing!
Now these are toys.

>>150987079
please stop
I can only get erect

>>150979734 (OP)
I only support shows I like, I didn't care for this one, so nope

>>150985017
I waited 2 minutes and solved 3 captchas so I could say based

>>150985674
Theur bringing in barely literate slave class to keep their techno empire running.

>>150987206
I’d buy a broken Gwen version that was articulated like those Spider-Man action figures with all the joints.

>>150979734 (OP)
A reminder that Knight of Borevere flopped hard.

>>150980405
>If you crosscheck with other popular creators, you'll see the problem: the vast majority of people want to get more content but don't want to actually pay anything for it, which is why Patreon is ultimately unreliable
I'd give them money if they start to accept my Argentine pesos.

>>150979734 (OP)
When are we going to get new episodes?

Or is this on some steaming app bullshit?

Gwen needs help

>>150980199
>>150981063
You people DO realize that Glitch making merch to fund Knights of Guinevere isn't the same as a megacorporation making merch so its higher-ups can buy a third yacht... right??

>>150988852
I do, but most people who watch cartoons may not know how real life works, and either work shitty wage slave jobs while still living with their parents.

>>150987206
I wonder if Glitch has considered making a deal with Bandai Namco. I know MD and TADC models would sell.

>>150988668
Still getting the budget together. Hell, even Glitch's previous project (which just barely got greenlit) is on hold until TADC wraps up.

>>150980341
It was over AI wasn't it?

>>150979734 (OP)
I got the Guinevere plush a week or so ago

>>150982030
With the right hole, absolutely

>>150988852
Zelda is sex
https://files.catbox.moe/vmcd4n.mp4

>>150980341
> Am I being a bitch?
Yes. I’d block you too if I could.

>>150989601
Very cute. My acrylic standee came in a few days ago. It's bigger than I was expecting.

Frankie's mom?

>>150979734 (OP)
I like the show but not any of the merch. Get me an actual maquette and we'll see.

>>150980341
Not tryna be a jerk but airing out your social media beefs here is rookie crap. Makes you way too easy to find anon.

>>150980787
Based.

>>150989601

I got the Andi plush a few days ago. It's very nice.

So... what was the knight? It wasn't the same type of android as Gwen because it had red blood instead of blue.

>>150990460
probably some human-based biogenetics going on while Gwen is a synthetic AI

>>150990460
Servitor maybe?

>>150985017
Only a troon thinks 3plat is impressive.

>>150985017
I think she would fuck YOU.

>>150979734 (OP)
Yes

I love the implication that Frankie is the better engineer that got passed over for Andrea for some reason.

>>150990112
Nice, standees look nice even if they arent my thing
>>150990439
I wanna get the her and especially the frankie plush because frankies my waifu but i really wanted the guinevere because shes so pretty and sweet and reminded me of crushes i had on disney princesses back as a kid despite never watching those movies

>>150984797
Looking over the data seems the answer was religious and/or not living in major city.

>>150985123
50% of the USA was born into enough money to make it? and another 50% wasn't?

Do you even hear yourself? If that was the case shows like Guinevere and dozens of others would take off without a hitch.

>>150988589
how is that even defined in this context?

If a Guinevere gynoid had her roboguts out and starting giving you a fucked up, intestines-around-your-dick handjob, would you be able to remain hard enough to finish, or would it be an instantly soft ick?

>>150986990
Whenever we go into Gwen’s perspective, she’s probably going to see Olivia as little girl, same way she sees Frankie and Andi as their child selves.

>>150979734 (OP)
Most of the merch are ugly, imo.

>>150991422
Why is it always plushies now?

>>150984572
>>150991189
Something about the design of her half-broken shell... I thought I would feel disgusted by her broken form, but it looks surprisingly endearing. Maybe coz it reminds me of Spiderverse's Gwen's haircut.

>>150991422
Merchandise is singular, it's a collective.

>>150991468
Because plushies are cool also action figures are more expensive to make and require lots of expensive tooling and sculpts involved
T. /toy/ guy

>>150991422
Nuh Unh!!

>>150979734 (OP)
Never

>>150989601
I don’t normally collect plushies, but I can be a sucker for “prop from the show turned into irl merch,” so it’s tempting just for that.

Maybe someday they’ll do the mug, that seems more useful and practical. Even if I have too many souvenir mugs already.

>>150979734 (OP)
No, I haven't been able to find any Gwen sex dolls.

>>150993078
Man...they really design a character with perfect tits

>>150990191
Knights of Guinevere? Uh, is this the one I watched? Oh, let's check it out...

I need her so bad, bros

>>150993727
I wish there were stronk girly girls IRL like frankie

>>150991192
You're talking with the Indonesian autistic retard with the hate boner for the owl house garbage.
Learn who's whom. Even though we're all anonymous, some stand out like a sore thumb.

>>150979734 (OP)
So this whole pilot was made just to sell merch? Was that the actual point behind it all?

Peddle plushies to awkward 20 somethings that still remember Owl House....

>>150993078
Bisexual women design the sexiest cartoon characters

>>150994468
brown hands typed this post

>>150991523
I suppose that plushies don't break like action figures and can be put in more places.

>>150994604
The merch is there to kickstart the show's budget while simultaneously measuring interest. A lot of shows from the 90s and 00s were canceled because of shitty merch sales.

>>150994604
>>150994653
Hold on, they are indie right? Why would they front load like that? I'm pretty sure the majority that succeed didn't do merc first and foremost, pretty sure they did proof concepts, clips or meme videos to then pitch a support page of some kind. Even the Space King fags had the sense to wait until after the backing from pilot to make shameless merc.

I feel like trying to sell your merc before anyone has an investment for your show is just a recipe for it to all go wrong but perhaps I'm missing an indie show that did this formula of selling merc during the pilot pitch and it was successful?

>>150992864
It’s kinda surprising that they haven’t already done this.

>>150994716
> perhaps I'm missing an indie show that did this formula of selling merc during the pilot pitch and it was successful?
It’s been the winning formula for every Glitch show since Murder Drones.

>>150994618
not wrong
my favorite ex was bi and still friends with her today

>>150994653
>A lot of shows from the 90s and 00s were canceled because of shitty merch sales.

Not as many as you think, if anything they failed because of timing. Avatar TLA got ratings fine in spite of garbage toy sales, same with Galaxy Rangers. On the flip you had shows that made very good toy sales like Transfomers Animated or Generator Rex but got canceled very early on. The real answer in those worlds world was corporate execs, they fuck shit up and just used whatever excuses they needed to get their way.

>>150994757
Didn't all those shows have pilots they picked up first before that first episode dropped with the merc?

>>150994775
You should fuck her again

>>150994618
I'd fold this sticc like a piece of wire

>>150994653
Lmao the More things chance the more they stay the same only this hurt More because they are pasión projects

>>150994991
Dont say it like that, all it did was reminded me of seeing that indian guy crushed to death by an elephant and folded like a ragdoll

>>150994829
if given the opportunity
no doubt

>>150991488
if you ever thought a Zuko-like designed female character could be attractive in the same way
punished-Gwen it is

>>150979734 (OP)
Thay ain't made nothing I want.

>>150994795
Nah, they were all things pitched to Glitch first then they made the pilots with merch to coincide with it.

>>150994716
Glitch is a studio, so I don't think they're indie anymore, despite it being small enough to have the creative freedom of most indies.

>>150991488
You are endeared to Princess Gwen because of the ugly cunt Gwen from the Spider-Verse movies?

>>150989601
I want a Damaged Gwen plush.

>>150979734 (OP)
no because I have no money and with nothing more than a pilot I'm not investing any of my very limited financial resources into merch for something that might never be expanded on

>>150993727
I know, right? She's EXACTLY my fucking type, especially because she's just a bit overweight with a big strong build. I want her to crush me to death with snu-snu.

>>150995085
Why does Avatar attract a lot of gay shit?

>>150992864
>>150994734
I'd buy one to drink my morning coffee out of if they were available

>>150996359
That is not what you should take from this at all. It shows that even a presented physically imperfect female character is attractive under the right circumstances. Guinevere will never look like her original form ever again but she sees herself as is. Yet she has plenty of willing defenders for who she is regardless how she is presented.

>>150996448
>I'd buy one to drink my morning coffee out of if they were available
even if it unironically contain led?

>>150979734 (OP)
Is this a lesbian cartoon fantasy show ?

>>150996590
No, and that's the reason the LGTBQ+ crowd turned on it.

>>150980292
I can't believe Gwen isn't void by an actual robot.

>>150996725
Did they?

>>150996470
Might be better for keeping pencils in then.

>>150996470
>this tableware will give you cancer
Shut up California.

>>150997120
USE THE DAMN PAPER STRAWS YOU CUNT

IT DON'T TAKE YOU 6 WEEKS TO DRINK A SODA

>>150989761
How do I get a boss lady to talk about my poor performance at work in a stern condescending and seemingly uncaring way?

>>150994775
W-where are these from?? I don't think I've seen these before...

>>150998312
Found on Dana's blusky account.

>>150979734 (OP)
Get in line.

>>150984227
Very boomer mindset on display here.

>>150986990
Surprised she didn't try putting her brain inside a Gwendroid

>>150995865
Same

>>150999326
gonna be a wasted opporunty if she doesen't

i wonder what would be better, if she makes a body based on her own appearance, or just stuffs herself into another Gwen