Thread 151068736

>the Silver Surfer is now a woman

Why did no one seem to care about this blatant woke revisionist gender swapping? Everyone just went along with it as if it's totally normal.

>>151068736 (OP)
1) Silver Surfer isn't that big of a character to general audiences (same as the FF)
2)It's an AU

>>151068736 (OP)
nobody gives a fuck about the silver surfer

>>151068736 (OP)
Rape

>>151068736 (OP)
Because the voices who bitch the loudest already dropped MSheU. Now they bitch about the Nazi killing robot in Reddit Commandos.

>>151068862
This.

>>151068736 (OP)
This instance wasn't bad at all. I think it worked out because she is directly tied into Johnny being a playboy.so basiclaly it works the following way
>Space chrome woman says words to Johnny
>Johnny gets a hard on for space chrome woman and obsseses with her language
> Eventually guilt trips her into not being evil
>Guilt tripped her so hard she stops galactus at the last second
She wasn't particularly insufferable, doesn't gilr boss around and hell, you could argue johnny guilt tripping her worked precisely because she is a woman. At least i can't see the movie working those scenes the same way had it been male surfer.
But whatever, i don't think FF is anything more than a 6/10.

>>151068736 (OP)
>Complaining about naked silver woman

>>151068829
Not true if you actually saw multiuverse of madness in theaters all normies cheered and hollared for Mr Fantastic reveal... before hes killed off anyway.

>>151068736 (OP)
No literally every thread complained about it that is revisionist history. And anytime someone brought it up they were met with the one singular issue where she exists and ignore the 99% of comics where hes a man and use that to silence any and all dissent.

What will they think of next, a gender swapped Vision acting as the herald?

>>151069168
MoM came out during a time where the MCU still had goodwill (in fact you can argue it was the very film from which audiences started to abandon ship), and Krasinski got cheered for it being a popular fancast among fans.

>blatant woke revisionist
holy shit could you whiners just shut the fuck up for once? you're a gang of crybabies who just won't shut the fuck up

>>151069223
Hi Warren

>>151069251
it was not a popular fancast among fans normies had no fucking idea that was a theory on reddit and youre still doing revisionist history to reframe events. Literal normies that dont speculate about this stuff online were cheering at the prospect of a canon Reed Richards introduced, they were going off general knowledge and a sense of delight, it was not a popular fancast it was some bullshit redditors circlejerked over it was not a prevailing fancast among the general fans or normies.

>>151069263
>I entered a thread for a thing I dont like with people I dont like and now im mad WAAAAHHHHH WAAAAAH STOP COMPLAINING
>NO DONT JUST POINT OUT THAT IM COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPLAINING

>>151069168
>all normies cheered and hollared for Mr Fantastic reveal
While it's like >>151069251 said, that was also during the era where normies fucking cheer at anything because of Endgame and No Way Home. I remember in Love and Thunder during Jane's first scene (she's suffering from cancer) people fucking cheered for her. That's how stupid they are.

>>151069315
Nah I saw Love and Thunder and that elicited no cheers I guess your showing was just full of fucking idiots im not going to lie to agree with you this is actually what happened. And yes there was more goodwill, but people IN MY SHOWING didnt cheer for the other cameos like Black Bolt because they had no fucking idea who he was meanwhile they did know of and delight at the prospect of mr fantastic. So mysteriously the "goodwill" didnt apply to black bolt but to Reed it did hrmmmmm

>>151069312
Anyone can enter a thread and call you a pouty child

>>151069293
Same people cheered over fucking Black Bolt right before, and you're be hard pressed to find casuals who know anything about the Inhumans other than what they've seen in yt shorts.

>complaining about a movie having a naked woman on screen 40% of the film's duration
what a faggot lol
shalla a best

>>151069345
Yes im so unappealing and awful, I guess you should just leave then since you have nothing to contribute and the existence of me perturbs you. Go on then fuck off.

>>151069350
Not at my showing I brought up that same point here >>151069339 and can lookup the reactions on youtube the amoung of people cheering for black bolt is nothing compared to for Reed its even documented.

>>151069355
Right so every single character should just be replaced by a hot woman then. All of them until there are no male characters. After all, all you care about is sex appeal.

>>151069339
Probably. It also occured during Quantumania too. Retards couldn't stop screaming about Kang, it reeks of they clearly reads articles about Kang being the new Thanos and hypes the shit out of him despite knowing nothing about him.

>>151069381
>frogposter
>crying bc Norrin's and Shalla's roles were reversed in an AU movie
KEK, pls keep posting

>>151069365
Not an uproar but there were cheers over that entire sequence. As other have said, back on those days normies would've cheered over anything in the brand alone, not because a specific character. Just look at how this year's FF did on the box office. Engagement with the MCU is at an all time low, and audiences aren't showing up unless is a character they've already have an attachment to.

>>151068736 (OP)
Most people did call this woke and retarded. Where have you been? But it’s just that between Hispanic reed and ugly skeletor Sue it got less focus.

>>151069263
>crying about crying
Ironic

>>151068736 (OP)
I thought it was hot, especially when she was suspended in the air by galactus

>>151068736 (OP)
nobody cares about the MCU anymore

>>151068829
3) naked woman

I didn't care about this change because the movie was painfully boring and lacking in stakes and that was a bigger problem.

>>151068862
That.

>>151068736 (OP)
Because no one gave a fuck about the third reboot of the Fantastic Four? The casting was ass in this movie for pretty much everybody .

>>151068736 (OP)
Nobody cares about Silver Surfer. And Silver Surfer is more of a job title than an actual person. The board transforms them into the surfer. They could be anyone.
They're also in an alternate universe so nothing matters.

>>151071473
1.People care about silver surfer. It's just that everyone gave up on the MCU overall

2.Thats fucking stupid and wrong. The silver surfer isn't a job title. It's a unique identity tied to norrin rad.


This shit displays both ignorance if the ip and disdain for the source material and fan base.

>>151068736 (OP)
You seem like such a faggot. No one cares about Silver Surfer. Hence why he got replaced by his wife in the movie and some random woman in the comics. No cares about Fantastic Four either. The Fantastic Four's performance in the boxoffice made that obvious.

This movie had bigger problems than a gender-swap.

>>151071605
Shut your cunt mouth.
Everyone was upset about silver surfer.
But everyone even the rage farners completely tuned out after the full cast list and leaks started dropping.

The MCU is a irrevocably damaged brand and one shitty portion of something completely fucked doesn't raise an eyebrow anymore.

>>151068862
>nobody gives a fuck about the silver surfer

>>151069381
>so every single character should just be replaced by a hot woman then

>>151068736 (OP)
People noticed. $520M for a tent-pole Marvel movie is terrible.

>>151068736 (OP)
>>151069355
>>151069410
best change in any of the capeshit media as of late
the tension with Johnny and Silver Surfer was a welcome addition

>>151072196
Just imagine how many threads we'd still be getting if they'd used Norrin Radd and still made Johnny sport a flaming boner over the Surfer.

>>151068862
A shame really.
Not even Superhero Squad that put him in the limelight did anything

>>151068736 (OP)
I'm tired, boss.

>Why did no one seem to care

That's the thing, faggot cockpumper. Nobody cares because they did the bare minimum 10 second research of "look up Silver Surfer, find out it's a different character and not Norrin Radd, then move on". Nobody's as stupid as you keep thinking they are.

>>151068736 (OP)
The MCU is so dead to me that i don't even care that much anymore, it's just another nail in it's coffin. I only care for Spider-Man now.

>>151068736 (OP)
I couldn't even finish the movie, in fact I forgot that I stopped watching it halfway through

When they said "The unbeatable monster from before time wants our baby who is also an unbeatable monster, and is actively hiding its power level indicating it is itself malevolent, we refuse to give it over [reasonable, sort of] though we don't know what it is but also Reed is to blame for even considering the possibility of turning it over and everyone on earth is mad that they didn't hand over their baby to a monster"

Like, why should we believe Galactus at his word that he'll spare earth?
I mean I know why, because the movie is just TELLING us these things as facts but from the perspective the characters why would they just believe him?
Why would you just think the baby couldn't be used as a weapon against Galactus?
Galactus consumes planets, okay, but why do they need to be full of sentient beings?
Why does the fate of the earth and arguably the universe fall to these specific four people of not really that much power to decide?
The whole planet is kind of treated as babies, which could actually be clever if there's some theme that (like in My Hero Academia) life under the protection of a Superman-esque character means everyone is so soft and assume "The Fantastic Four will handle it, I don't need to think or worry" but the movie isn't that smart

I dunno maybe I missed something by not watching the rest of it, the characters were really unlikable at their personal grievances and history and beef get in the way when the Earth, and really the Universe, is at stake. Like they can't set aside their petty teenage bullshit to focus on a threat that endangers the whole planet?

Maybe I'll watch the rest of it tonight.

>>151071473
Not really. If the Surfer was a mantle with no fixed personality then you'd have a point, but Norrin has an entire persona and ethos fixed to himself.

>>151072800
Sums it up

>>151072874
>The whole planet is kind of treated as babies
The film shows that it's world is an utopia precisely BECAUSE nations are able to cooperate and act reasonably towards each other (sans Latveria). This Earth is shown as capable of it's achievements and highly competent, with the FF working in tandem with them, not above.

>>151068736 (OP)
My cousin and i hated this swap, but we enjoyed the movie enough to tolerate it. Whenever we talk about the movie, it comes up as the only part we have complaints about.

>>151069381
Careful
Gacha adaptations are next

>>151072926
Dunno if you're still in the thread, but if that's demonstrated (I don't really think it is), it's completely undermined by:

1) Many villains being a joke like the mole guy

and

2) The press conference where everyone is just a slack jawed retard saying "Why didn't you give you baby to be eaten by the big bad wolf? He said he'll go away if you just do what he wants!"

It's a global threat but the only ones working on the problem are Reed and his three idiot nepo retard helpers (that don't realize they're retarded nepos that exist to facilitate his genius and nothing else).

>>151073101
Mole Man has comedic traits, but he's not inherently treated as a joke. The film shows that even though he can be difficult to work with, he's ultimately reasonable and willing to lend a hand for the greater good. Same with the world; it's not without it's tensions, but people have a greater capacity to listen and not chimp out immediatley like mainline Earth.

>>151073101
>his three idiot nepo retard helpers

Where else is he going to find three gamma mutates with oddly specific powers to go on weird adventures with? Reminder that they exist in another time period apart from the Avengers, Ant-Man, Guardians, and so on.

>>151068736 (OP)
You may notice nobody watched FF at all.