Thread 151072167

i dont have an industry.

>>151072173
You did until Netflix ruined it.

>>151072167 (OP)
>watch cartoon on netflix
>too many lgbt propaganda
i never had netflix membership but who cares?

>>151072167 (OP)
This would be more apt on /tv/. A picture of Marvel and DC would be better for ruining this board.

>>151072248
At least /tv/ focuses on movies so they never have a problem with series formats. When it comes to series, Netflix has that problem where they release like 4 episodes then take several years to release another 4 episodes.

>>151072167 (OP)
Tech bros doing what tech bros do.
The model is to create a service that will "disrupt" an industry by providing a similar service for impossibly cheap prices (or sometimes even free). In truth, they're hemorrhaging money, but they have enough capital that they can keep up the illusion of impossibly cheap/free for several years.
They tout that this is the wave of the future and that <product> doesn't need to be so expensive. Everyone moves over thinking it's the wave of the future while they devalue the object or service being sold in their minds.
> <Previous service/good> was so much more expensive! What a total scam. This is way cheaper and almost as good!
Once the market is cornered, the competition flattened, and people are reliant on the new tech, prices suddenly start to steadily increase. Each time the company will explain that they're making improvements, trying to pay their workers better, etc. This is a lie. They need to start making the business profitable. They keep increasing until eventually you're paying more for a shittier version of the service/good you used to get in the pre-new-tech era.

Every time, the industry that the tech bros infiltrate is left in smoldering ruins, they cash out, and move on to ruining something else. The same thing happened with taxis (uber), food delivery (grub hub), general retail (amazon), and now AI is coming for creative industries. And people fall for it every time. Just remember, what seems impossibly cheap today will be far more expensive (and worse) tomorrow.

>>151072167 (OP)
Remember when they just mailed you DVDs and you had to mail them back for no particularly good reason?

>>151072167 (OP)
Sad!

>>151072167 (OP)
well that sucks

>>151072313
I think thats just capitalism. Investors (Gordon Gecko) and entrepeneurs (your tech-bros) come in. Try to get a footholding by providing free stuff, undercut the price or make it a service that is cheap for the first year. They become the sole survivor and shitificate the product.

>>151072167 (OP)
you can't ruin something that's been a smoldering crater for 20 years.

>>151072313
>>151074436
Perhaps, but at the same time…

>>151072214
>>151074521
… nothing of value was lost since I don't watch Netflix, anyway.

On a side note, it would have been funny if the streaming wars imploded similar to the video game crash of 1983. Granted, that was caused by several other factors including some that were self-inflicted, but Atari was practically the Netflix of that particular console generation despite having eight other consoles to compete against within a few short years. Imagine Netflix suffering losses as badly as Atari did.
>Atari 2600 - 30 million units sold; discontinued in 1992
>Intellivision - 3 million units sold; discontinued in 1990
>ColecoVision - 2 million units sold; discontinued in 1985
>Magnavox Odyssey 2 - 2 million units sold, discontinued in 1984
>Atari 5200 - 1 million units sold; discontinued in 1984
>Fairchild Channel F - 350,000 units sold; discontinued in 1983
>Bally Astrocade - Unknown units sold; discontinued in 1983
>Emerson Arcadia 2001 - Unknown units sold; discontinued in 1984
>Vectrex - Unknown units sold; discontinued in 1984

>>151072167 (OP)
Ruined or cleansed?

>>151074436
No, it's predatory pricing. It's supposed to be illegal, but nobody bothers to enforce the Sherman Act.

>>151072167 (OP)
The fuck is wrong with Netflix... This time?

>>151072214
>Rightoids 20 years ago: ONLY STEM! ART IS FOR LOSERS AND FAGGOTS!!
>Rightoids today: WHY IS ALL THE ART ONLY BEING MADE BY LOSERS AND FAGGOTS?!

>>151075533
>nothing of value was lost since I don't watch Netflix, anyway
I think you missed the point. It's not about liking or not liking Netflix. Streaming services like Netflix completely ruined physical media, theaters, and television.

>>151078253
I didn't take this post to be about Netflix specifically. I thought OP was referring to how streaming killed cartoons (and film/tv in general)

>>151078974
>I think you missed the point. It's not about liking or not liking Netflix. Streaming services like Netflix completely ruined physical media, theaters, and television.
I don't see how. Just because I didn't mention how much damage streaming has to movies, TV shows, and physical media doesn't mean I'm oblivious to it. If anything, I was actually referring to Netflix shows I avoided by NOT watching that streaming platform. Aside from certain /co/ threads (especially ragebait threads), I have practically no exposure to the following shows, which I can happily avoid going off what little I did see that irked me one way or another.
>Big Mouth
>She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
>Castlevania
>Castlevania Nocturne
>Devil May Cry
>Voltron: Legendary Defender
>Q-Force
>Tomb Raider: The Legend of Lara Croft
>Splinter Cell: Deathwatch
>Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous
>Dead End: Paranormal Park
>Terminator Zero
>Ridley Jones
>live-action Sandman
>live-action One Piece

>>151080506
*has done to

>>151072167 (OP)
They gifted me my big titty waifu.
So I will always simp for Netflix.

And at the same time, it's the best option. I mean, TV is dead...

>>151080506
Voltron isn't even on Netflix anymore.

>>151072313
>Loss Leader Strategy
The "disrupting" industry is a really interesting case study. What do they actually mean by that and how do they garner capital from it in the first place?
The only way I can see it is that they are using it as a veiled phrase to tell you that this industry is new and laws haven't caught up yet, so people put in money to the scam and wring out the public or other bigger entities.
Anyways what' the way out of this? The issue for example, is that retail irl is often more expensive than Amazon depending on the type of goods.

>>151076692
i love how they will overregulate every possible part of business, things that make people more dependent, but that ONE thing they are supposed to do, they refuse

>>151081255
"disrupting" the industry means just that - changing how things are traditionally done.
The tech viral takeover is very different from a Loss Leader Strategy. The Loss Leader would refer to something like the ready-to-eat items at Costco like the hot dogs, rotisserie chickens, etc. Those items are priced lower than the cost of materials/production. Costco takes a financial hit on them, but it gets people in the door and once they're there, they're much more likely to end up buying other stuff which nets them an overall profit.

Running for years at a financial deficit to take over the market is not a loss leader strategy. It's more like a virus. They entice customers away from competitors with impossibly low prices and hold out until everyone else is either forced to close or work with the new tech company. Meanwhile the company grows and spreads until they have complete control of the market. Once all competitors are either obliterated or working for them, they can start to gouge customers because they are now completely reliant on their service.

>The issue for example, is that retail irl is often more expensive than Amazon depending on the type of goods
Not really, though Amazon can make it seem that way through tricky business practices. You have to pay a subscription fee to have access to Amazon Prime which is already a hefty expenditure you otherwise wouldn't be paying. Some of the small fiddly items can be cheaper like batteries, screws, types of wire, and other knick knacks. So you may pay like $3 instead of $9, but remember, you're paying the subscription fee that buffers that. Any bigger items often cost the same as they would at a brick and mortar and if you look really closely, sometimes they cost more. Amazon Prime shipping is "Free", but a lot of times that cost is included in the price.

>>151076692
Why doesn't anyone enforce it?

>>151081255
>>151083088
That doesn't directly answer your question, though. The way out is to embrace minor short term inconvenience and discomfort in the interest of long term gains. My girlfriend cancelled her Prime subscription earlier this year and hasn't bought a single thing from Amazon since. She still orders stuff online, but often goes direct to manufacturers/retailers. There are other aggregate services too - she gets pet food and litter from Chewie. She gets books from Bookshop.org (which allows you to choose a book store to send profits to so you can support local businesses while still having the convenience of online shopping). She buys gifts on places like etsy.

Most of the shit you're saving money on Amazon with are of shitty quality anyway. Sure, you might save a couple bucks with some knockoff Chinese bullshit, but if you're replacing it twice a year because it keeps breaking, it evens out. And any name brand stuff is going to cost the same as anywhere else. AND you don't have to pay a subscription fee.

>>151083139
because the people who would be responsible for doing that are getting bribed by lobbyists and/or they own stocks in the companies that are benefiting from their non-action.

>>151078253
They killed movie theaters.

>>151080506
What’s wrong with Castlevania?

>>151083088
How is that not how uber is run? There are other names for it. Besides the idea is the same where you operate at a loss to take over the entire market and then fuck over everyone once you're the monopoly. The problem now is that "competitors" like lyft forexample to uber, don't do the same but follow suit.
That's a big issue of the modern economy. Instead of another startup undercutting the big bad market leader, they're just lackies offering very *slightly* better deals. I suppose it's because they're copy cats instead of doing things a new way.
>Not really, though
It is though. One has to pay the exorbitant retail rent prices and one just has to operate from a storage facility. I'm not going as far as saying amazon is a "good deal" but regular shit like books, cables, gadgets, are less expensive on amazon. It's true for bigger items but I noticed that Amazon usually just sells garbage tier shit and for big items, it's usually tech which is a hard sell above msrp.

>>151083148
The biggest advantage amazon has is the fast shipping i.e. logistics. Other than that I wonder why all the NPCs flocked to Amazon if it's not actually a better deal. Lack of imagination and inability to do their own research into local businesses perhaps? And brand recognition, I guess. I see a lot of people only "trust" Amazon and not smaller retailers and services unless it's physical. The online sales shit is made worse in the past decade when they forced extra taxes onto online transactions.

>>151083173
Damn...

Sony sold Kpop Demon Hunters to Netflix because they thought it would flop

>>151084109
>the idea is the same where you operate at a loss to take over the entire market and then fuck over everyone once you're the monopoly
That's not what a loss leader is, though. Costco isn't selling $1.50 hotdogs to push out business at which point they will cease selling $1.50 hot dogs.

>lyft forexample to uber, don't do the same but follow suit.
Lyft DID do that for a few years when they were getting going to capture part of the market. They didn't have the capital to do it long enough to push Uber out since they were already an established entity with deep pockets, but for awhile Lyft rides were insanely cheap while they were trying to get people to convert from Uber to their service.

>books, cables, gadgets, are less expensive on amazon.
Read my previous response. I already explained this.

>>151084156
>Other than that I wonder why all the NPCs flocked to Amazon if it's not actually a better deal.
Because their viral takeover worked. For quite awhile, it WAS a better deal because Amazon was taking the hit. People could get goods at impossibly low prices so they started ordering everything from them. They didn't notice that once brick and mortars started closing, the subscription price increased and the cost of goods also increased. By that time people were so hooked on being able to order everything on Amazon whenever they wanted that to leave it now is a radical shift. Some people have no idea where they'd even buy certain things anymore if they weren't ordering on Amazon.

It's no longer a good deal, but people are so reliant on it that it no longer matters.

>>151086461
You keep talking about subscription price but it's only 15 bucks. How is that offsetting anything if your monthly shopping is in the hundreds or even thousands for some?

>>151086620
this fag is spending thousands of dollars on Amazon per month

>>151072173
Loser

>>151078298
>The Reality: The arts have been heavily gate-kept against rightoids, keeping them out more and more over time, and creating a purity spiral in the creative spaces since the few rightoids in ANY creative industry have to be political chameleons since art-fags are absolutely mentally ill politically activated and obsessed freaks

>>151072353
I mean, they had your financial information, so presumably they would charge you for not returning the product, and if you were renting it BECAUSE you didn't feel like paying enough to own it, why not just return it?

>>151087443
Nobody on the Left made your Papi call you a sissy for taking an interest in Art instead of Sportsball, beer and weight lifting, pressuring you to give it up.

>>151087541
>Comics-Gate
>Purging right wing creators
>General purge and purity spiral of creators who didn't align perfectly with leftoid politics
>DEI and safe spaces above all else, "le person with the rightoid ideas make me feel unsafe"
Go try being openly right-wing in any creative space and see that you'll never get hired, kek.

>>151083297
>What’s wrong with Castlevania?
Going off screenshots and character/plot details posted on /co/ within the past couple years, a lot of the crap that Warren Ellis and crew did to those shows gave me a clear picture of what to expect from them. And as a fan of the Castlevania games since the NES, I expect both shows to piss me off and waste my time. It's best if I just stick with the games and memory hole those shows altogether than to hate myself for watching them.
>Netflix "anime" adaptation

>>151087758
>Comics-Gate
I thought Comics-Gate was right wing though.

>>151078974
Television deserves it actually. Especially with how shit it's all become over the years. I agree that physical media should still be preserved though considering you don't technically "own" whatever is on your netflix account.

>>151087143
She won.

>>151087443
>It wasn't OUR bad behavior, it was YOUR bad reaction!
Rightoids like to forget about how they exited Academia in droves just because serious scientists laughed at the attempt to teach Creationsim in public schools.

>>151083297
>>151088148
>vampires hate crosses because they're afraid of right angles
legitimately one of the dumbest plot points in anything.

>>151088193
>Especially with how shit it's all become over the years
you understand that it has a lot to do with Netflix disrupting the market, right? Streaming video started in 2007. Ever since then, television has been in steady decline.

>>151089070
who was the writer on that episode?

>>151072167 (OP)
> puts uppity drawmonkey's in there place
Hey man at least there is Indie...kek

>>151087758
>Mentions nothing but autistic shit he heard about in the last 10 years
>Completely ignores nearly 70 years of right-leaning folks not giving a shit about the arts.
You didn't even try brother.

>>151087443
Most industry gatekeeping is against people who are generally libs but fail to toe an arbitrary line in some way. Right wingers don't need to be gate-kept because the overwhelming majority of them just never tried.

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