Thread 151091158

>Spongebob got good again
>S4-S5 was part of the golden era
>The patrick star show is pretty funny actually
>Spongeboomers

>>151091158 (OP)
Parts of season 4 are somewhat understandable but who the fuck considers 5 as apart of the golden age?

>>151091158 (OP)
the thought of there being a spongebob fandom and people actually having arguments like this makes me laugh
it's fucking spongebob

>>151092834
Spongebob is one of the best and most iconic cartoons ever though, why would a rabid fanbase be a surprise to you

The reason so many people hate "Spongeboomers" is cause many of them are just poor critics in general and mostly come across as whiny nostalgiafags who simply hate something for being new. Modern SpongeBob does have issues but instead they just choose to bitch and whine about the most retarded shit like "nooooo you cant make cartoony faces those are forced meme attempts" and "nooooo you cant reference old stuff thats nostalgia pandering" when they could actually be criticizing shit like how the show just became style-over-substance or go into in-depth detail as to why the more cartoony nature feels lacking in some departments. Like The Simpsons fanbase isn't like this, they actually know how to review modern episodes more critically.

>>151092834
Spongebob has gone on long enough that a whole new generation of kids have grown up watching the newer seasons but the older generation doesn't like those newer seasons, they barely like S4-S5.
So what we have are two generations who grew up watching Spongebob but were watching two different versions of it. The Old Generation likes S1-S3 and the movie and the Newer Generation likes everything afterwards so you've got people butting heads with one another, mostly because the Newer Generation is objectively wrong

>>151091158 (OP)
Aiight, I'm interested. Can you link one of these "pretty funny" segments from the patrick star show?

>>151093123
seconded, like is there a definitive list of episodes I should watch? I kinda only wanna see the best episodes

>>151093123
>>151093247
The Patrick Star Show is honestly better than modern SpongeBob right now, it’s not amazing and each season has some stinkers but it’s nowhere near the worst thing ever like everyone says, that newer Halloween video store episode I really liked, you should also check out Bubble Bass Reviews if you wanna see them shit on toon critics.

>>151091158 (OP)
>DUDE [SIMPSONS/FAMILY GUY/SPONGEBOB] JUST DID THIS TOTALLY EPIC [MEME FACE/OVERANIMATED BIT/NOSTALGIABAIT/EMOTIONALBAIT/THIRSTBAIT] TO GET TIKTOK/TWITTER VIEWS IN THE NEWEST EPISODE I SWEAR TO GOD IT'S GOOD AGAIN I MEAN IT FOR REAL THIS TIME PLEASE BELIEVE MEEEEE
this happens at least once for each every year
very transparent and inorganic to me, just shy of brand incorporating fanmade memes (which all 3 have done as well ofc)
>>151093012
this kind of thing has happened across the board with other franchises, sonic for example being a notable one
it's fueled by kids nostalgic for those eras derided by older viewers, as you mentioned, but a key component of this is is that those same nostalgic groups become video essayists and whatall and try to enact cultural shift and critical revisionism via longform essays which in turn attracts those selfsame nostalgic viewers under a banner
it's an interesting process to look at from a sociological perspective, but very annoying if your an older fan of a property. The really funny thing is, to me, in a franchise laden world where most people care about many many things from the whole of their life, the average person certainly falls into either group for a number of topics.
So virtually everyone out there is decrying oldheads not liking the news tuff of one property meanwhile they tsk tsk at the ignorant newbies of that one dead to them franchise they once loved

>>151093492
Haven't watched patrick show so I can't agree or disagree but I remember feeling the same with Cleveland Show/Family Guy
Like, cleveland show was never as good as prime FG, not even close, it was kinda mediocre in general but I liked it far more than concurrent FG, which was already pretty fixed in that family gore and relatable joke spam they've stuck with forever since.
Cleveland show was a lot less cynical and kinda cheesy to the point where I liked it for it.
I think my biggest annoyance with Cleveland Show is that they changed Cleveland's character to make him a more wacky protagonist, and the weirdest thing about that is that Cleveland is pretty much his classic personality in the pilot of CS but changes dramatically into this kinda nerdy quirky guy by episode 3 or 4 It's really weird really

>>151093525
>try to enact cultural shift and critical revisionism via longform essays
I personally blame Prequelfags for this.

>>151092796
I consider 5 as apart of the golden age. I don't consider 5 as a part of the golden age though.

>>151092996
forgot to say that I suck cocks

>>151092996
Forced meme faces are bad because there's way too many of them, they're being tryhard about it

>>151094192
You wouldn't survive the 90's then, cartoons were full of that type of animation back then, you're just brainrotted from the fact that most cartoons from the past 15 years are stiff and lifeless garbage.

>>151093525
I can’t agree nor disagree with you on this. On one hand it feels disingenuous to act like everything newer shows do is nothing but forced attempts to pander to the online zoomer crowd. Family Guy has been a cutaway gag cracking stagnant directionless slog for 15 years now before social media people started profiting off them, cartoons have been making wacky faces and exaggerated movements for a century at this point and it just seems like the SB artists wanna have fun on their jobs seeing that’s the only cartoonist driven show these days, and I feel like there’s a similar case with the Simpsons writers just wanting to have fun even if I don’t like the modern episodes. I’m not denying that there are times when those shows can feel a bit socialmediabait-ish like you said but at the same time it just feels like those shows are trying to be experimental knowing that they’re longrunners that will never end regardless of what they do.

Though I do agree with you on the part about all those fan discourse and whatnot. The reality is that the quality of something is only subjective to the most part, and every franchise that existed is gonna change whether we like it or not. It does actually seem like stuff like video essays and fan wikis have influenced longrunning shows to reference old stuff more often, honestly that makes me miss the days before that when cartoons had to run on what they god and could be inconsistent, like I’ll admit modern SpongeBob does reference old stuff a bit too often, not saying it’s nostalgia pandering, but IMO it’s just a bit too much references for a wacky cartoon, like Looney Tunes and Ren & Stimpy never referenced prior stuff that much.

>>151091158 (OP)
>>151092996
I've literally never seen someone say Spongeboomer outside of /co/ and I'm starting to feel like this is some schizo stuff

>>151091158 (OP)
>Spongebob got good again
>The patrick star show is pretty funny actually
Objective fact. Spongebob is the only good kids cartoon on cable these days

>>151091158 (OP)
What the fuck is a "Spongeboomer"?

>>151094295
>cartoons were full of that type of animation back then
Literacy is at a fucking all-time low around here. His point was that cartoons back then didn't add in the LOLSORANDUMB faces as a way to inorganically get people to circulate images of them around for memes, retard. The point of wacky faces used to be part of the joke. Now there's no joke; they're put in because they hope some fucking idiot apologist will scrub through all 20 zombie seasons to screengrab the forced grotesqueness and spread it around on Twitter as proof that the show hasn't lost its soul.

>>151095710
I get this, "meme face" discourse has caused some people to say SpongeBob is doing meme faces, others to say it’s not, but the reality is that both are the case. I don’t have a problem with over-the-top animation, but I’d prefer said animation to look good. I feel seasons 10-11 are where the modern seasons animation quality peaked, largely cause they were worked on by experienced professionals who’ve also worked on projects with that style like Ren & Stimpy, Mighty B, or those Mickey shorts, whereas seasons 12-present is full of more younger artists, I’m not saying the younger artists can’t make good stuff, but you can tell the visual drop in quality from 12-present, not only do the faces look more Newgroundish at times but the timing on the animation is also pretty weak.

>>151094295
Ren and Stimpy did this better. It also helped that R&S kinda had a weird gross vibe around it in the first place and wasn't a gigantic corporate property that inevitably gets sanitized to hell and back.

>>151091158 (OP)
My issue isn't so much people finding enjoyment out of new SpongeBob media as it is people EXCLUSIVELY talking about "SpongeBob this" or "SpongeBob that" while at the same time ignoring everything else Nick has had to offer in the last 15 years. This overshadowing is becoming too much now.