Thread 151102221

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>Destroys their own network and western animation as a whole
Do you think they had any idea of the damage they would cause?

>>151102221 (OP)
it was a recession you stupid nigger. I don't agree with their choices but they did what they needed to do to stay profitable. Eastern animation has gone to shit by lazy retarded perverts with no animation talent drawing their sexual desires in 15fps. Western animation has gone to shit by allowing women in the writers room. Independent animation is the only true source of anything entertaining, fueled by people with autistic passion not lured by monetary gain. If you get into animation you're a stupid fucking faggot and deserve crippling arthritis and carpel tunnel until you die a painful death. The only successful animators should be suicidal retards who had no other avenues to pursue in life. If you're a fan of some company for shitting out childrens entertainment you're a stupid nigger who should be shot behind a shed. Animation is pain, passion, and unprofitability. Only then can something be enjoyable.
Kill yourself.

>>151102221 (OP)
No. Leftists are incapable of understanding second order effects to their actions. There was no plan in the first place, just the subconscious impulses of the irrational mob. In fact the self destruction is in reality always the actual end goal for these people.

>>151102262
Shut up, faggot.

>>151102221 (OP)
There is a 30 anniversary special, it is CN wanking Clarence, AT and TTGO over Cartoon Cartoons.
Nothing worthwhile came out of CN since AT.
Steven Universe and similar shows pretty much damned the company.
I can't think of a positive example of diversity and inclusion that worked favorably.

>>151102221 (OP)
Pete Browngardt
>Directed The Day the Earth Blew Up which WB wanted nothing to do with, set to work on the upcoming Pokemon project with Aardman and Netflix
Ian Quartey Jones
>Leeching off his xir/xhey wife
J.G. Quintel
>Working on a Regular Show revival even though the series had a perfect ending, not allowed to finish Close Enough or do anything different
Rebecca Sugar
>Working on a Steven Universe Spin-Off because she's creatively bankrupt
Nelson Boles
>Not doing much other than a few miscelaneous works here and there
Pen Ward
>Doing the bare minimum on Fionna and Cake
Adam Muto
>A Faggot
Skyler Page
>Blacklisted from the industry, currently residing in Arkham Asylum

This shit is sad to watch, most of these people aren't doing anything but repeats of their previous work

>>151102431
Kill yourself i am correct.

Feels great to be an anime /a/non.

>>151102221 (OP)
David zaslav doesnt care about ruining animation as he hated cartoons and only likes HGTV reality TV shit like a literal cock taking faggot

>>151103126
Enjoy your endless isekai sloppa. Anime hasnt been good since the early 2010s at least

>>151102431
>it is CN wanking Clarence, AT and TTGO over Cartoon Cartoons.
There is nothing wrong with shilling your new cartoons. That said, their original show should never be forgotten. The lack of crossovers between their old and new IPs is a crime

>>151102262
>Eastern animation has gone to shit by lazy retarded perverts with no animation talent drawing their sexual desires in 15fps.
The japs have been animating their sexual desires since before you were born and I would take an ecchi 80s anime over every indie cartoon

>>151103138
The new lupin movie got released just this very year and there is plenty of non-isekai shit all the time but keep coping

>>151103481
>lupin
Absolute dog shit. I saw the lupin movie miyazaki made and it was ass

>>151103484
You are a retarded subhuman with garbage taste. Go back to your calarts slop.

>>151103496
Ghibli shit is garbage and anime was only good when it was ultra violent OVAs like akira or wicked city or was experimental and cool like evangelion and bebop. Once it all became SAO knock offs the industry became worthless

>>151103504
>Ghibli shit
That was before Ghibili you retard.
>experimental and cool like evangelion and bebop.
Lmao, Bebop is experimental? Ok. Why can’t the west make an animated series like Cowboy Bebop? Why are all western cartoons inferior to it? What a worthless industry. Western animation was only gold when it produced shorts before the 70s.
>Once it all became SAO knock offs the industry became worthless
Once again that’s not true for all of the industry.

>>151103514
>That was before Ghibili you retard.
It was still just as overrated
>Why can’t the west make an animated series like Cowboy Bebop?
Shit like BTAS is on par with bebop
>Once again that’s not true for all of the industry.
Oh im sorry i forgot valid SOL cancer and crap like apothecary diaries where its so boring it induces suicide in its viewers

>>151103504
>>151103484
>he thinks Miyazaki made Lupin
Dude, Miyazaki only worked on a movie and some of the series, you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>151103524
I never said he made the series but he made its most celebrated entry and it was fucking boring. I dont understand the appeal at all its fucking dull

>>151103523
>It was still just as overrated
Sure sure. Nice comeback you still know nothing about the things you are talking about.
>Shit like BTAS is on par with bebop
That is like the best western animated series and even then the creators themselves said that japan was outdoing them. Not to mention that the japs have made plenty of other adult anime besides cb, think about stuff like lotgh, which has better character writting than any western cartoon. The west has only btas to compete with, which is sad.
> forgot valid SOL
Or stuff outside of both sol and isekai. Even experimental stuff here and there but you are clueless so you should just drop the pretense.

>>151103538
>lotgh
Is it like gundam where its in space but paradoxically has no aliens or robots? Sounds boring and shit
>Or stuff outside of both sol and isekai. Even experimental stuff here and there but you are clueless so you should just drop the pretense.
Name me an anime from the past three years that is actually good and not "cute girls doing cute things" cancer or isekai slop. Give me something actually decent, i fucking dare you weeb faggot

>>151103529
Nah, “most celebrated” means nothing. It was just the most accessible on to the public.
>at all its fucking dull
Name a western cartoon made in the last 10 years that’s better then

>>151103126
anime has a lot of problems unique to it

>>151103550
>Name a western cartoon made in the last 10 years that’s better then
Unironically uncle grandpa

>>151103549
>Sounds boring and shit
You have no taste. You are probably a brain dead zoomer that only likes non stop action or something. It still has better writing than all western cartoons.
>Name me an anime from the past three years that is actually good and not "cute girls doing cute things" cancer or isekai slop.
Mononoke Hinezumi. Now name cartoons made in the last 3 years that are not slop.

>>151103564
I bet you thought that was funny.

>>151103567
>You have no taste. You are probably a brain dead zoomer that only likes non stop action or something. It still has better writing than all western cartoons.
Nah it sounds like its pretentious and people only pretend to like it like shit like andor where its not real sci fi but only gets accolades for normies shit taste perceiving it as being "deep"
>Now name cartoons made in the last 3 years that are not slop.
Primal, smiling friends, digital circus, the patrick star show

>>151103589
>Nah it sounds like its pretentious and people only pretend to like it like shit
Lol. You are the exact example of a braindead zoomer that is afraid of anything more intelligent than some calarts slop. Lotgh is not “deep”, it just has interesting well rounded characters which is something that you rarely get in cartoons. Hell, I feel like you are contradicting yourself. Didn’t you say that you like experimental and adult stuff? How can you stand shows like NGE or Btas them? Aren’t they too pretentious for you?
>digital circus
I said something that is not slop. Digital circus is more boring than Lotgh could ever be.

>>151103611
>How can you stand shows like NGE or Btas them? Aren’t they too pretentious for you?
They arenr ashamed to be their genre. Sci fi that doesnt have aliens and stuff in it is ashamed to be sci fi the same way "grounded" fantasy is afraid to be fantasy

>>151103551
I agree but it has been in a better state than cartoons since at least the 80s especially when it comes to how many great directors it has attracted.

This thread's making me realize that it's like the West forgot that animation can have weird experimental stuff since like 2010. I can't remember the last time there was just a straight up arthouse animated movie or show like we used to get, something like Aeon Flux or The Fantastic Planet. The most recent example I can think of was The Tragedy of Man, and that had the vast majority of it produced in the 80s and was only finished in the early 2010s because the collapse of the Eastern Bloc fucked up its funding chain. Shit the Russians just gave up on their fucking weird-ass cartoons once the Soviet Union fell too. Where the fuck is all the weird shit done in weird styles?

>>151103620
>Sci fi that doesnt have aliens and stuff in it is ashamed to be sci fi
That’s a very dumb logic but anyways there is always Seikai no Senko for a space opera style of story with aliens and also Gunbuster and while they are not quite lotgh tier they are still above almost all sci-fi you will find in american animation
>way "grounded" fantasy is afraid to be fantasy
But Batman is basically grounded fntasy which is the shallowest version of fnatasy.

>>151103649
>grounded fntasy
Meant to write Urban Fantasy

>>151103649
>But Batman is basically grounded fntasy which is the shallowest version of fnatasy.
It has cool characters which is more then i can say about slop like game of thrones. A big draw for me is good and interesting characters. Evangelion had it, bebop had it, all modern anime doesnt. The latest anime i liked was one punch man season 1 and jojo and OPM came out ten years ago and jojo was an adaptation of a 80s manga

Remember when they canceled Bye Bye Bunny in favor of a shitty LOTR animated movie that everyone hated, I do.

Anyway...
>>151103481
Too bad that movie sucked ass and even Japanese critic voted it as the worst film of 2025.
>>151103504
Other way around, Ghibli is gold and anime is only good when it copies it like with Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs (helps that people who have direct ties with Ghibli like Kazuhide Tomonaga and Atsuko Tanaka were in charge of those projects), only when Wellesley Wild illegally stole Animaniacs away from TMS and forced them to do Tower of God and Shenmue: The Animation against their will while Titmouse and Snipple butchered Animaniac is when anime worthless.
>>151103523
Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs are light years better then Cowboy Bebop.
>>151103589
>Primal, Digital Circus
Even worse then slop.

>>151103669
> It has cool characters
So does Lotgh. It has some of the best characters in animation. That’s the whole point of the show.
> A big draw for me is good and interesting characters.
Considering that you like garbage like digital circus or invincible I doubt that’s true. I’ve already named a good anime but I can also give you march comes in like a like as an example of a more recent anime that has better characters than anything in digital circus.
> all modern anime doesnt.
What does “modern” even mean? Made in the last 5 years? The situation for anime has not been good but even then I still find more interesting anime shows/movies than western cartoons.

>>151103738
Kys and livestream it, Famitroon

>>151103748
>So does Lotgh. It has some of the best characters in animation. That’s the whole point of the show.
Ill try and watch it some point. Is it on crunchyroll? I wanted to get that at some point to watch dandandan
>Considering that you like garbage like digital circus or invincible I doubt that’s true.
I never said i liked invincible

>>151103766
> Ill try and watch it some point. Is it on crunchyroll?
No. It don’t know if you can watch it on any legal streaming sites. You’ll have to stream it illegaly/torrent it.
> I never said i liked invincible
My bad then.

>>151102221 (OP)
Where did the diversity in artstyles go?

>>151103787
Is their a dub of this too btw? I prefer dub to sub

Also off topic tangent but i sorts wanted ti watch invincible but i keep hearing how they keep wasting their budget in celebrity VAs and i dont like how casually they treat all the destruction in the way that giga 9/11 happens every other day and everyone brushes it off which makes no sense

>>151103766
>>151103787
>>151103817
Doraemon, not Dandandan.

>>151103875
Doraemon looks bad, why does that cat have no ears?

>>151103892
Mice chew them off and it does not look bad, it just look simple is all, and normies won't watch cartoons unless they look just as simple and flat as Family Guy and Bob's Burgers.

It's why Sazae-San and Chibi Maruko-Chan are the biggest anime to exist.

>>151103627
Forgot? No one (no studios) is paying for artist to be experimental and it's expensive to do that on your own.

>>151102221 (OP)
Man this was 12 years ago....

Is it really the creative's fault for corporate disfunction of the entertainment industry? Even the best art will succumb to dumb executives.

>>151102816
It's not them specifically. Even people from the Cartoon Cartoon era have admitted they've been having trouble finding work on anything that wasn't a revival.

>>151102221 (OP)
kino

>>151105538
Canny

>>151102262
>they did what they needed to do to stay profitable.
So why didn't it?

>>151102221 (OP)
I dont think it was damaging per se, just that we ended up getting 2 lost decades in a row of cartoons thanks to DEI initiatives and making cheap, surface-level and risk-averse cartoons.

>>151103538
>think about stuff like lotgh
that retarded basic bitch philosophy 101 class of a show using only the most basic generic takes on shit, only retarded midwits think that show is good.

>>151106590
>that retarded basic bitch philosophy 101 class of a show using only the most basic generic takes on shi
If you weren't a brainless illiterate person you would have read my whole post and realize that I am talking about the character writing which is way above everything you can find in western cartoons.
>only retarded midwits think that show is good.
Sure sure. Sorry people don't like steven universe or whatever slop you prefer.

>>151103814
Anime

>>151103814
For diversity to exist you need more shows. How many shows did cn have in the last 5 years or so? Almost nothing.

>>151102262
>>151102839
You're wrong, your autism spectrum proves.

>>151102431
>Steven Universe and similar shows pretty much damned the company.
SU was their last smash hit, it was undeniably a success

>>151102262
>The only successful animators should be suicidal retards who had no other avenues to pursue in life.

>>151102221 (OP)
Our next generation of animation.

>>151103627
Corporations are really fucking gay nowadays and minor studios basically don't exist anymore.

>>151102221 (OP)
Why were they the future?

>>151102272
>leftists
>they just hired cheaper labor to gain more profit since cable was dying, and didn't do shit.
remember when it had good animation with good stories, well that died after 2005 and was just put pedoand lgbt propaganda and nothing else since they were cheaper.
>>151102431
at least in western version, japan cartoon network is airing teen titans (the original), ben 10 (the original first one), space jam movie (loved how slutty lola bunny sounded in japanese), and lot of more classics.