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How much damage has pic-related really done to the cartoon industry and society in general? Are there still lingering effects to this day?
Anonymous No.151133155 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
>damage
What damage specifically are you talking about?
Anonymous No.151133683 [Report] >>151136971
>>151132989 (OP)
As an early adopter of the show when people didnt care about it, I kept saying itll get good. Then the Jasper debut happened and thought it was a great buildup.
>It went downhill from there
Steven Universe made me belive if a show isnt peak by the end of S1 or at least halfway through, its foreshadowing of shit to come.
Anonymous No.151134449 [Report]
Rent free
Anonymous No.151134648 [Report] >>151140475 >>151144396 >>151144553
She killed billions
Anonymous No.151134720 [Report] >>151135751 >>151137150 >>151147710
>>151132989 (OP)
None

The real patient zero was MLP. That's why it gets corralled off into its own board. It unironically caused wokeness.
Anonymous No.151134760 [Report] >>151134797 >>151146138 >>151148017
>>151132989 (OP)
Pretty much every cartoon after wanted to be a tumblr loreshit cartoon with gay shit in it that only catered to mentally ill women.
Anonymous No.151134797 [Report] >>151143283
>>151134760
That's a symptom of tumblrification, though. WIth the new creators coming from those spaces that was bound to happen.
Anonymous No.151134873 [Report] >>151134908
>>151132989 (OP)
I love this show but it is largely responsible for cartoons being mostly serialized rather than being purely episodic or having the plot in the background. I don't see that as inherently better or worse, but most cartoons following the steven universe model just dont have the same level of quality that (most of) steven universe did, and they fall flat as a result.
Anonymous No.151134908 [Report]
>>151134873
>but most cartoons following the steven universe model just dont have the same level of quality that (most of) steven universe did,
That’s a good thing and what new shows?
Anonymous No.151135751 [Report] >>151138047
>>151134720
homestuck did more damage
Anonymous No.151135753 [Report] >>151135833 >>151137047 >>151144010
>>151132989 (OP)
Reminder that the 2008 recession is what caused the homogenized oversimplification of televised animation not MUH LIBERALS. Liberal animators actually LIKE detailed art. Theyre ARTISTS.
Anonymous No.151135833 [Report]
>>151135753
That's not a given, at all. Plenty of "artists" make nothing but scribbles, be it professional or personal pieces. SU is barely different from Sugar's personal art.
Anonymous No.151136971 [Report]
>>151133683
But it WAS peak by the end of S1
Anonymous No.151137025 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
thankfully no children watched it
Anonymous No.151137047 [Report]
>>151135753
lol
Anonymous No.151137150 [Report] >>151142910
>>151134720
lauren faust was a mistake
Anonymous No.151138047 [Report] >>151144353
>>151135751
but at least ended with dignity
Anonymous No.151138473 [Report] >>151139925
tons
Anonymous No.151139925 [Report]
>>151138473
how
Anonymous No.151140475 [Report] >>151141172
>>151134648
would
Anonymous No.151141158 [Report] >>151141685
>>151132989 (OP)
I know OP's trying to start a hate thread, but let me just say this here's one of my favorite pieces of promo art for the show. Everyone just looks so cute!
Anonymous No.151141172 [Report] >>151144396
>>151140475
Same
Anonymous No.151141685 [Report]
>>151141158
Every SU hate thread is bound to become a regular SU thread
Anonymous No.151142910 [Report] >>151144558
>>151137150
a miracle*
Anonymous No.151143283 [Report] >>151144369
>>151134797
>tumblrification
Was never a thing btw
Anonymous No.151143862 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
It was a bad show, but it didn't do any damage to the cartoon industry let alone society?

It's like saying johnny test or teen titans go "damaged society in general", it's just a cartoon.
Anonymous No.151144001 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
Steven Universe did damage but it was just one cog in a giant machine, it was really Adventure Time that damaged the industry, that show taught people you don’t have to look good to be well liked, that show created a family tree of many shows from its shitty alumni and their shows alumnis, that show was the start of the beanmouth style, which executives would then force onto most modern shows as a cost cutting measure, not to mention how samey they make all their modern shows, it’s all beanmouth shit like Stugo, Wylde Pak, and Primos that are nothing but the same "what if girl go on fantastical adventures?" we’ve seen millions of times before because nowadays executives don’t want to do anything remotely risky, and it’s clear how many of those shows took after Steven Universe or Gravity Falls.
Anonymous No.151144010 [Report] >>151144358
>>151135753
i think the only proof of that is steven universe going from a pilot with decent animation to the dogshit art style that we all know and hate
Anonymous No.151144353 [Report]
>>151138047
Anonymous No.151144358 [Report] >>151144380 >>151149207
>>151144010
Rebecca Sugar used to be a pretty good artist, her older art was more Spumco-influenced, season one of Steven Universe was far more expressive, but then as time went on the beanmouth virus took over her art.
Anonymous No.151144369 [Report] >>151144672 >>151150038
>>151143283
Stfu
Anonymous No.151144380 [Report]
>>151144358
I think she should’ve done horror/thriller comics
Anonymous No.151144396 [Report] >>151144445 >>151152871
>>151134648
>>151141172
my seed growing in her womb
Anonymous No.151144445 [Report]
>>151144396
Based
Anonymous No.151144553 [Report]
>>151134648
>billions
Just "6 trillion" in Hollow cost
Anonymous No.151144558 [Report] >>151144672 >>151150038
>>151142910
kys
Anonymous No.151144616 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
Would it have been better if the show had been cancelled after the high watermark of S1 and left fans begging for more? Sure. Are the later seasons weaker than the first? Definitely. Is Future a fucking disaster? Absolutely.

But the show is more good than bad and doesn't warrant the rampant contrarianism it gets. Animation is ultimately more interesting with it having existed than not.
Anonymous No.151144672 [Report] >>151144976
>>151144369
>>151144558
relax chudsissy
Anonymous No.151144916 [Report] >>151144985 >>151146107 >>151147512 >>151151214 >>151161940
>>151132989 (OP)
It's a great show. The hate it gets is mostly chuds screeching about wokeness.
Or people who felt let down because the show didn't go in the direction they expected.

The show probably encouraged more serialized content, but the rise of streaming has been doing that everywhere.
Episodic shows were king during the cable days because you couldn't binge watch a show. With streaming everyone branched out into serials. And personally I think it's an improvement. Episodic shows lack substance.
Anonymous No.151144976 [Report] >>151145255 >>151150038
>>151144672
Faggot
Anonymous No.151144985 [Report]
>>151144916
Next time tardwrangle your crew, Becky
Anonymous No.151145255 [Report] >>151149266
>>151144976
calm down
Anonymous No.151146107 [Report] >>151146275
>>151144916
>With streaming everyone branched out into serials. And personally I think it's an improvement. Episodic shows lack substance.

Except Looney Tunes is currently dominating streaming.
Anonymous No.151146122 [Report] >>151146890
None.
Anonymous No.151146138 [Report]
>>151134760
That all started with Gravity Falls, not SU.
Anonymous No.151146275 [Report] >>151152938 >>151162047
>>151146107
I said "personally" didn't I? I'm sure that was me.
Looney Tunes are shit. They're classics and are important to animation history, blah blah blah. But my god they're boring.
It's just the same shit over and over with slightly different gags. They were on all the time when I was a kid, and I was so sick of them.
Was so happy when they contained all that shit to Boomerang.
Anonymous No.151146890 [Report]
>>151146122
Wrong
Anonymous No.151147512 [Report]
>>151144916
Mmm... Pizza...
Anonymous No.151147710 [Report]
>>151134720
What a retarded take.
Anonymous No.151148017 [Report]
>>151134760
SU was successful because it appealed to people outside these groups. Shows like Dead End Park, strove to be extremely progressive so much that it sucked
Anonyrnous No.151149207 [Report]
>>151144358
She's still a great artist. It's just that Steven Universe is her most commercial project to date and thus had to cut corners and adapt to an increasingly rigid TV production pipeline. Her personal stuff still feels very 'Sugar.'
Anonymous No.151149261 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
I don't think it did much damage to the industry or society, but online communities probably could afford some introspection where it's concerned.

Better question: which did the most damage to online kiddies - SU, Adventure Time, or the horse show?
Anonymous No.151149266 [Report]
>>151145255
no fuck off and die
Anonymous No.151150038 [Report]
>>151144369
Gtfo
>>151144558
you first
>>151144976
Sperg
Anonymous No.151150048 [Report] >>151160433
>>151132989 (OP)
A lot
Anonymous No.151151057 [Report] >>151160433
>>151132989 (OP)
a lil bit
Anonymous No.151151092 [Report] >>151152015 >>151153272 >>151162171
>>151132989 (OP)
it brainwashed millions of men into thinking sticc is peak woman because they are
Anonymous No.151151214 [Report]
>>151144916
i hated the eva references in su
they were all tacky and purely done as a 'lol u get it?'
if you're going to reference something at least have the decency to at least show that you understand the context of what you're referencing is
Anonymous No.151152015 [Report]
>>151151092
real shit
Anonymous No.151152871 [Report] >>151152913
>>151144396
that literally killed pink diamond
you're going to have a gay son with a jewel in his belly
Anonymous No.151152913 [Report] >>151154882
>>151152871
wasn't the entire reason she died because she wanted to give him the gem?
Anonymous No.151152938 [Report] >>151154061
>>151146275
Kys
Anonymous No.151152998 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
I'd polish her pearl
Anonymous No.151153272 [Report] >>151153327 >>151157968
>>151151092
This and Ranking of Kings made me realize that pointy nosed ladies are the cutest ladies.
Anonymous No.151153327 [Report] >>151154624
>>151153272
I want to kiss her right on the schnoz
Anonymous No.151154061 [Report]
>>151152938
you first
Anonymous No.151154624 [Report]
>>151153327
Hard same
Anonymous No.151154882 [Report] >>151155398 >>151155748
>>151152913
Just think about how reproduction would even happen
She's made of light, and shapeshifted false reproductive organs
Even if she replicated an egg for you to fertilize, that shit can't leave her body once the baby is done
The gem was a requirement for Steven to even exist
Anonymous No.151155398 [Report] >>151156523
>>151154882
I don't care who you send, I'm not fucking Earth women.
Anonymous No.151155714 [Report] >>151157847
>No gay marriage! Here's your time slots
>queue K-Pop demon hunters finale with RS pushing gay marriage against the publisher
Anonymous No.151155748 [Report] >>151161261
>>151154882
She might have just pumped healing / growth magic into Greg's cum until a babby was formed.
Same as Steven kissing the ground to make grass grow or whatever.
Maybe Steven could have been a mostly ordinary human child.
But Rose wanted to BE Steven. She was infatuated with humanity and wanted to throw away her status as a diamond.
Anonymous No.151155809 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
honestly not really. it did give female creators the cheat button of being able to get away with slop writing as long as they can say its in support of lgbt
Anonymous No.151156523 [Report]
>>151155398
Based
Anonymous No.151157125 [Report] >>151158110
Was Jasper the best ever Steven Universe villain?
Anonymous No.151157759 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
You know, I never did grow used to Post-CYM Garnet's weird shades...
Anonymous No.151157847 [Report]
>>151155714
>Shows are treated differently in different time periods
No fucking way
Anonymous No.151157922 [Report] >>151158019 >>151158106
Why did CN have a heart attack over Ruby and Sapphire. Ruby is so boy-ish it doesn't even really matter that they're gay because they still do the whole husband and wife routine. What I'm still confused about is Mega Pearl, why did she look so lustily at Steven? I can only imagine they fucked insane style right after this scene.
Anonymous No.151157968 [Report]
>>151153272
How is she so perfect bros
Anonymous No.151158019 [Report]
>>151157922
Are you a zoomer? Before bubbline/korra/SU, it wasn't normal in the slightest to have gays in cartoons, gender nonconforming or not.

And the former two were only subtext at the time, so explicitly canonizing the little boygirl red rock with the little girlgirl blue rock was pretty risky business for a business that did business in other countries
Anonymous No.151158106 [Report]
>>151157922
Afterglow of fuscking with each other + seeing what's left of their oneitis after releasing millenia of pent up sadness about her with someone who actually understands.

Maybe. Their combined diamond lust was probably tempting, but they probably also felt powerful and at peace with themselves enough to resist
Anonymous No.151158110 [Report] >>151158172
>>151157125
I liked Peridot both as a villain and redeemed but I can't deny she got way too little screen time as a villain while Jasper was pretty much always one. To be fair Peridot didn't get enough screen time after her redemption either
Anonymous No.151158134 [Report]
>>151132989 (OP)
Lapis was my favorite girl personally, i liked how laid back she became (kinda), i personally really liked the show, I think only two characters designs really weirded me out with like the wokeness I guess? It was when merged Connie and Steven started growing leg hair and when Pearl was flirting with that one fat girl with pink hair, but those are some minor inconveniences honestly since I thought the whole thing was pretty cute and silly, I feel like most of the complaints come from the filler, but I did have the privilege of binging it, waiting months for another filler episode while Lars was still stuck in space would definitely have sucked and sometimes the changing size proportions of the characters was also off, like Connie cutting a car in half but her body is basically as big as the car. I also have no clue how anybody feels about the ending but I actually kinda liked it, didn’t really mind Steven just going ifff doing his own thing he pushed himself a little too hard on Connie, despite his innocence of social dynamics
Anonymous No.151158172 [Report] >>151158378
>>151158110
She didn't have enough villainous motivation, from the very beginning she came off as a frightful geek that just wanted to do her job well. No pre-existing feelings about the Crystal Gems, that became frustration like finding a bunch of squirrels made a mess of your office, that became fear, and was saved from developing into anything much worse thanks to Steven, who clocked that she was just a frightful geek.

Jasper had an ancient and personal grudge
Anonymous No.151158378 [Report] >>151158385
>>151158172
Still, she had that evil genius potential. The crystal gems fought what Peridot in many different ways whereas with Jasper they just threw down a few times and won when they fused, I simply find fighting a tech Mengele who experiments on gems in fucked up ways more interesting than fighting a final boss Quartz
Anonymous No.151158385 [Report]
>>151158378
fought Peridot*
Anonymous No.151160433 [Report]
>>151150048
>>151151057
uhhh
Anonymous No.151161261 [Report] >>151161855
>>151155748
>healing / growth magic into Greg's cum until a babby was formed.
babies require two distinct donors and she doesn't have anything viable to donate
the most you could expect from her magic would probably be a clone of Greg
I just realized that Steven is literally separated from the gem and my argument is now null and void canonically
still bullshit though
Anonymous No.151161855 [Report] >>151161872 >>151161975
>>151161261
“Canonically” Steven fucked his dad
Anonymous No.151161872 [Report] >>151161975
>>151161855
How?
Anonymous No.151161940 [Report]
>>151144916
>The hate it gets is mostly chuds screeching about wokeness.
It's harshest critics were from the left...
Anonymous No.151161945 [Report]
For me, it's Amethyst
Anonymous No.151161975 [Report]
>>151161855
>>151161872
fusion =/= sex
It's an allegory for any relationship.
Most of the time it's just friendship / camaraderie like when Peal and Amethyst first fuse.
For Garnet it's romantic, but she's basically the exception.
Anonymous No.151162047 [Report]
>>151146275
By god I can’t believe how much of a faggot you are
Anonymous No.151162171 [Report]
>>151151092
I can't decide if Amythyst or Pearl should be my #1. It's so hard to choose.