Thread 151137146

>"It does not take many words to speak the truth." - Chief Johnson
Zack Snyder's 'Man of Steel' trilogy is superior to James Gunn's "Superman" in every imaginable sense of the word. I will lay this out in four simple points, discounting what has been said already:
1. The 'Man of Steel' trilogy is illuminating, while James Gunn's "Superman" is goyim-perpetuating.
2. The 'Man of Steel' trilogy is a critique of established religion from a Hellenistic lens - transposed with a critique of secularism, of consumerism, of modern politics, of both isolationism and globalism; "Superman" is a presentist joke, in the end – criticizing nothing, and agreeing with everything.
3. The 'Man of Steel' trilogy has a distinct visual style, to which its themes are deftly woven, while "Superman" is tonally dissimilar from its visual elements (which are used for thematically-lacking visual glitter).
4. And, finally: truth, quality, and sanctity will last – even in the depths of culture, and beyond all despots and admonishments. It will last, even in the recesses of that which wishes to kill it. It can be mimicked, mocked, and devalued. And yet, truth sustains.
>inb4 seethe, random accusations, and more seethe
Kek get on my level, triviumlets.

>>151137146 (OP)
>"It does not take many words to speak the truth." - Chief Johnson
Superman is better.

>>151137200
Nah.

>>151137304
Cool scenes that is what I can say.

Wasn't the Snyderverse going to be full blown cuckshit? Isn't that tge reason he got canned?

>>151137146 (OP)
Spam thread, word-for-word.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/151105769/

>>151137783
>>151137843
You don't know how to use basic english terminology properly, faget. Come back when you move to America from Tel Aviv and have finished your emigration classes. It isn't spam to slowly post a topic over the course of a week.

>>151137146 (OP)
>Man of Steel
>trilogy
BTFO by that cope alone.

>>151138114
>>151137146 (OP)

>>151137146 (OP)
>"It does not take many words to speak the truth." - Chief Johnson
What a stupid fucking quote. Lying and telling the truth have nothing to do with word count.

>>151138348
Saying this every time a thread about the Justice League trilogy is made is extremely embarrassing. You know you can buy it on physical, pal. Acting like I don't recognize you when you make the same five arguments is also sad. What's next? You gonna call me a thesaurus one more time? Or leverage schizophrenia accusations against me? That would be very new and original. Y'know, now that I think of it, you are quite the intelligent lad. Apply for a business or psychiatry degree and give me updates on how well that goes, while I continue discussing this trilogy over the coming months.

>>151137146 (OP)
I'm not going to engage this ridiculous bait, but here you go.

>movie portraying Superman as a stereotypical autistic guy makes leftists seethe, make four-hour takedown videos and renounce the importance of their political dichotomy they spent 10 years setting up
LOL!

>>151138463
>Justice League
>trilogy
>thinks I'm some other anon roasted his retarded cope
>prepared essay response
>trilogy

If anyone is actually reading this thread other than this retard kek the lesson you should obviously take away is: don't try to debate someone in a language of which you have poor foundational knowledge, and if you're confronted with people like this it is best to allow them to throw their little attention-seeking tantrum and embarrass themselves.

>>151137146 (OP)
Wouldn't really call it a trilogy.
I did prefer Snyderman to Gunn's hair trigger punching bag that loses every fight and cries out.
However, your post is shit. You think eating a thesaurus gives your post validity, but you miss the key point: your post is purely subjective.
The points one should bring up are simple. Man of Steel made more money with really no hype going for it. Superman lost an estimated 59M with all the hype going for it.
Man of Steep has massively more effort put into it. Not only the visuals but the structure and world building. We are shown krypton at the start of the movie. We're shown how Clark grows up and adapts to his powers. We're shown how he discovers his heritage. We're shown his first flight, which is amazing. We're shown how an earth without superheroes reacts to an alien invasion. We're shown big stakes and massive destruction.
That's just the world building. They got Zimmer to do the score and he went nuts for it. It was amazing. Then the cinematography too, the choice for angles for the camera like when Superman flies out of the building Zod just lasered and the camera rotates around Superman as he flies, it's creative and it looks amazing. Again I return to the first flight segment of the film.
Meanwhile with Superman 2025 we get a Star Wars text roll introduction. We see his fortress which is cool...except it's one tiny room with nothing going on in it other than it has the weakest and quirkiest robots. It was to my understanding that Supes stored trophies there much like Batman in the batcave? But nothing. The movie chases other superheroes for too long but we're given no back stories or explanations about them. They're just there. And the villain is just a clone. This is what, the 3rd Superman movie in 12 years where the villain has his same power set but is evil? Very uninspired.
It's filled with poor decisions and poor aesthetics. Oof hit the 2k char limit. Oh well think whatever you like.

>Zack Snyder's 'Man of Steel' trilogy
Nobody says this. It's like saying "Jon Favreau's 'Iron Man' duology", or "Iron Man octology".

>151138614
>tapping out because nobody's taking the bait
Bitch.

>>151137146 (OP)
>criticizing nothing, and agreeing with everything
He criticizes evil

>>151137146 (OP)
>>"It does not take many words to speak the truth." - Chief Johnson
>wall of text
lel

I liked the Jamea Gunn movie.

>>151138814
In the most superficial sense, sure.

>>151137146 (OP)
i watched supershit in a sharty cytube, and the only good part was when the movie got voteskipped it near the end and everyone got flashbanged by the next thing in the playlist
https://youtu.be/ODbzhIb_R8k?si=nT31d1MpIrTYODp_

>>151137146 (OP)
What are you looking for, OP? You created this exact thread just a few days ago. What are you looking for that you didn’t get with the last thread?

>>151137146 (OP)
Everything that pseudo-intellectuals point to as reasons why Man of Steel is so deep were due to WB not having time to write further drafts of the script and Snyder shooting it as is because he literally does not care about things like story or logic. And everything you think in BvS is super deep is just your own headcanon, Snyder’s idea of “deep symbology” is putting a Maplethorpe over Bruce’s bed to symbolize his inner masochism.

>>151139051
Constructive discussion from more than one or two people, a lack of sharty faggots sliding my thread with off topic spam or obfuscating rhetoric, signs of intelligence from the self-proclaimed, interesting and nuanced viewpoints from people I disagree with, to serve as an example of how to make a high quality general thread, and to serve as an example of how effortposting in spite of admonishment is worthwhile. I appreciate the sincere question, for once. I have a question for you: why, if you want valuable discussion, would your attention be focused on these threads and not decrying shit like digital circus, helluva, /co/mblrite LGBT and coomer spam?

>>151139088
This is just arrogant, dismissive, and redundant. Just because certain artistic material doesn't spoonfeed you with the plot, doesn't mean it can be reduced to what you were able to take away from it.

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>>151137146 (OP)
tl;dr

>>151139144
Still waiting for any one of these.

The silence speaks.

>>151139144
No, you’re wanting an echo chamber of Snyder cock sucking while dismissing any actual criticism with your flowery, thesaurus-driven, chatGPT replies that don’t actually say anything. I’m so beyond goddamn sick of hearing about this faggot and the failed attempt at a shared universe. Do you like it? Great. I like Ang Lee’s Hulk. But I don’t have to fucking defend or make threads hoping for a circle jerk every other day and shitting on Ruffalo’s Hulk. Just fuck. Off.

>>151139158
>doesn't spoonfeed you with the plot
There is no plot to spoonfeed. “Stop my invincible son” and “what was I supposed to do let them die? Maybe” aren’t the result of some deep philosophy they’re the result of a rushed script and a director who isn’t concerned about whether or not the tone or story make any sense. Batman v Superman is the result of that director being loosed of any sort of tard wrangler and filmed twelve hours of footage that had no way of coming together into a cohesive narrative because he was more concerned about filming what “looks cool”. The iconography you posted is just random shit thrown together in an attempt to look deep and cool. There’s no rhyme or reason to any of it. Which perfectly sums up all of Snyder’s DC movie work.

Yeah, I'm not readin' all dem replies. If anyone can conversate rationally and in a well-behaved and well-read manner, then I would be truly grateful.

>>151139486
Or maybe people are just finally sick, after more than ten years of this shit, of these shitty movies being discussed. Each of these threads go like this
>some up-his-own-ass OP claims Snyder’s movies are actually genius
>other anons point out how they’re not with examples of why the movies are a mess
>OP points out a mistype or something else minuscule while ignoring the main point of the criticism
>shit flinging ensues
>repeat for twelve years

>>151139669
>conversate
>well read manner
>ignoring any Snyder criticism
See >>151139670

>>151138500
Not sure what box to put you in, you're just crazy.

>"It does not take many words to speak the truth." - Chief Johnson

this line perfectly sums up Zack Snyder's writing. bumptious, self-serious and ultimately shallow.

the illusion of meaning.

>>151139725
>I hate smart people.
Good for you, pal.

>>151139737
Really sucks that the only other person to like Snyder's movies here is this retarded autist that can't take any criticism. I bet you have a bluesky. I can't believe you didn't like Superman 2025 when his weak faggotry is so much more up your alley.

>>151137146 (OP)
OP is brown

>>151137146 (OP)
The issue with Superman is that it was made primarily with a white audience in mind. Most other groups just want to see a strong guy punching shit and being strong.

Reminder that MoS was the male gaze and Superman 2025 was the female gaze

>>151139823
Ironic that the Superman made by a guy shilling for diversity attract the less diverse crowd. To be fair, whites are basically human pandas, regardless their political affiliation

Anyways, Zack Snyder is a fantastic director.

When you say Snyder is retarded then he give you the Manly Hall stare

>>151139834
The only attractive woman in MoS wore a full space suit the entire film.

>>151139992
True and fuck the glowniggers. Keep at it, G.

>>151139846
I don’t blame James Gunn. Making a dumb action movie with wide appeal sounds extremely boring. I understand wanting to make a Superman movie that’s about how the Israeli claim to their land is bs. It’s probably a more engaging subject for him.

>>151137146 (OP)
The movie is literally all about how people like you are scum and superman would never be like you

>>151140035
I'm not that faggot saying that. I read it on an article. The male gaze mean attractive people in general because according to s-o-is, women like unattractive characters

I love God

Praise YHWH

Weak opposition, today. They don't pay these guys well enough to care, so long as they make the general attempt to obfuscate. Classic soviet demoralization technique, but used by every government. These guys aren't particularly feds, but the people behind them likely have lots of money. I don't trust groups with interests, who want to distract me and who only speak to me with anger or doublespeak. I trust truth. The truth is the Rosicrucian doctrine was correct, the Freemasons are fags, Israel is a hellscape of a desert, and the only way to personal salvation is through understanding reality and appreciating the proper sentiments.

>>151141044
TL;DR never believe in gnostics or luciferians, never kowtow to the socialists, and understand the Tao.

>>151141062
Oh, and secularists and atheists are nothing but pompous simpletons.

I love how the new Superman movie which is objectively better than any of the Snyder emo trash still makes them seethe like little 13yo closet faggots. Feels good being a real Superfan.

More lazy, obfuscating, consensus-shilling doublespeak from the bourgeois branches of The Great Glownigger in the Dark. It really is a shame my foundation is of a fractal nature, and hard as stone.

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O'L'Adonai! Forgive them! They know not what they do!

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>>151137146 (OP)
> Zack Snyder's 'Man of Steel' trilogy is superior to James Gunn's "Superman" in every imaginable sense of the word.

What's the point of comparing the series that single handedly elevated superhero movies to a place of artistic legitimacy to a goofy summer action comedy? Superman '25 was a perfectly good movie for what it was and had some decent morals. I liked it.

>>151142126
>What the fuck? These goyim are mad we turned their Coliseums into sports arenas, their palaces to city halls, and their homes to sod!
>They should be grateful they get blue raspberry Kool-Aid along with it! It could be much worse!

>>151142144
It's a cycle, you know. Eventually people will get tired of light hearted comedic takes and more cerebral approaches will be popular again. Maybe from Snyder, maybe from other talented directors who see the capacity for serious artistic expression in the material.

Honestly, I'm glad Snyder got to make a complete trilogy, even if it does kinda sting that the sequel hooks at the end of Justice League will never be followed up on. I find it way more frustrating that we'll probably never get ajy more of Rebel Moon

>>151142182
Woe, and he believes I am ignorant - once more - to the ways he can prevaricate! See the snake, and watch its hate! It wriggles and writhes, in my vice grip, though cannot escape in such tense slips! Silver and quick, I slip over thee; silver and quick... Will it escape? Doth it not know it is another enslaved form of ape? O'L'Adonaius, bequeath he with understanding, so which one day he can know just as fancy.

>Snyderverse's lead production designer was the same guy that did the creature designs for the 90s Super Mario movie and Godzilla 98.
>All three are beloved by annoying contrarians that insist their awful adaptations are neglected cinematic masterpieces.

I see a pattern.

>>151142240
Ye be seeing the wrong one, lad.

>>151142240
Wait, didn't that guy also do Blade Runner?

>mspaint comics, christ is king nonsense, bump posts, and weird sexual posts about sharties

Most boring troll, honestly.

>>151138114
It is literally spam to have the exact same OP as a previous thread

>>151137200
Based