Thread 151143023

What is the worst comic you have ever read? It can be for any reason, whether it irreparably damaged characters, the universe itself, or the writing or art was simply so poorly written it felt like a complete waste of time.

For me personally, it was Marville. There are many contenders: The Unfunnies, JLA: Act of God, Superman: At Earth's End, TDKSA and Crossed: Psychopath but in the end Marville literally had no redeeming qualities.

>>151143023 (OP)
heroes in crisis, or really anything by tom king
he fucking sucks

>>151143023 (OP)
emerald twilight, for removing Hal as GL and the GLC for 10 years, especially given the GL run at the time, while not selling particularly well, had Hal, Guy and John in appropriate niches (Hal leading JL Europe and recruiting for the GLC, John managing the patchwork planet, Guy using Sinestro's ring and working in space)
I really liked Kreon, Boodikka and Jack T. Chance as well

>>151143023 (OP)
It is very difficult to top Marville. Almost everything else I’ve read and hated I’ve at least been able to enjoy hating because it’s laughably bad, but Marville is just (and may Allah forgive me for using this term) fucking cringe. I can’t think of any other way to describe it. Reading it is like listening to a drunk at a party who thinks everything he says is clever and hilarious but he’s just a tedious unfunny bore.

probally the only contender to go agaisnt Marville

inb4 retards come in saying everything marvel & dc ever put out

>>151143023 (OP)
So bad it made me feel like shit afterwards.

>>151143023 (OP)
I think out of all of Kirkman's works I liked Battle Pope the least. It felt "Reddit" for lack of better term.

I also thought New 52 Deathstroke was kinda lame.

On Marvel's End I thought Luke Cage MAX looked hideuos. Maybe I just got filtered

>>151143023 (OP)
I unironically love Marville, and have every issue. The early issues have some snappy British humor-tier jokes, and I like the spirituality it takes on in the later issues when they meet God and go back in time to watch humanity evolve.

I've started reading a couple Minecraft comics that were so bad I couldn't make it more than a few pages in. Here's one of them.

>>151143023 (OP)
Dog Biscuits.
Awful art, retarded writing; a pandemic love story.

>>151143023 (OP)
Dandido's Metal Men

>>151143023 (OP)
Aliens vs Avengers

>>151145095
Luke Cage MAX is an outright bad book. Only the Genndyfag likes it.

Most of the MAX line was garbage, yes, even Fury. It was a different time and they were doing weird shit to see what people would buy.

>>151146797
Fuck off, Fury MAX is incredible (both series but My War Gone By is better)

>>151147384
not really, it's trite shock-value shit

Ennis can do and has done better

>>151147839
>Ennis can do and has done better
At least I can agree with this.

>>151147839
My War Gone By? I thought it was one of the best written books of the 2010s

>>151148247
I think he's talking about the 2001 miniseries
And I agree, the 2001 miniseries was a weak outing for Ennis

Wanted. You can argue Millar has written worse, usually the Unfunnies is brought up, but my god is Wanted a fucking rancid comic. It’s insane how the movie, despite being total dogshit, is far superior to the book.

>>151143023 (OP)
Someone will post nemesis and holy terror but I liked them

>>151150209
I read Holy Terror. I've read much worse.

Fortune Son

>>151143023 (OP)
This is just continuity porn with a huge side serving of slut-shaming.

>>151146563
I haven't read this comic but I can already tell it's ultragay for trying to replace Punisher's super iconic skull symbol.

Marvel got weird about it because military and police liked using it and Marvel felt awkward that the "wrong" type of people started liking Punisher.

>>151152056
It's worse than that he has his wife come back from the dead, taking all his shit and give him a speech about why he sucks before killing him and he gets dragged to Weirdworld. On top of that he made child Frank some permascowling fat edgelord instead of having a normal childhood like Ennis said he had.

>>151152095
>instead of having a normal childhood like Ennis said he had
It wasn't written by Ennis but Punisher MAX as a child was already ready and willing to kill a young guy who was essentially raping women around the neighborhood. But before he can do it he witnesses the guy get set on fire by some other guy who was a Marine.

So even before his time in Vietnam or the death of his wife/children he already had that inner spark of him as a kid of wanting to be a predator that went around killing the bad guys. And it's probably not a coincidence he specifically became a Marine after being influenced by that Marine he saw kill somebody else.

>>151152056
And who’s the right type of people? If you are into Punisher comics, you may be into action films/shows. Hell, even in the 80’s they were going for the Soldier of Fortune crowd. I don’t see a lot of overlap with people that read Punisher, and watch Steve Universe.

>>151152261
Ennis wrote it. It was a collection called Past, Present, Future. The girl he liked that was raped is the Marine’s sister. The rapist was the son of the local crime boss.

>>151152261
Yeah he was but Ennis stated that outside of that he saw Frank being an ordinary child and not deeply mentally disturbed. Frank wanted to kill the guy because he raped one of his friends but it's not like Frank was deeply violent and disturbed and looking for an excuse.

>>151152341
One of the problems with Punisher is that Marvel tends to appeal to woke politics nowadays so when a mass shooting happens and gun control becomes the topic of the day it becomes awkward to publish Punisher since he's just a normal guy that goes around shooting people. And on top of that often wears a black jacket which makes him look even more like a stereotypical mass shooter.

Look at that character from Bridge Kids or that Hatred video game. A guy with a gun in a black jacket screams "mass shooter". Compare that to Deadpool who also shoots people with guns but is so over the top nobody would mistake him for anything approaching reality.

>>151152523
I always wonder, if Punisher was always a woman, would radical feminists wear the skull instead of those pink pussy hats. Any way, they have gone back to classic Punisher now. The left has a pretty short attention span. They no longer care about the skull and moved on to the next thing.

I haven't read a whole lot of bad comics. I don't check out things that have awful reputations unless I have a very good reason to believe that I would like it.
The worst comics I can remember reading are probably:
>Joker's Last Laugh
>Superman: True Brit
>Ultimatum
>Cerebus (the bad parts)
And of those, I think only Ultimatum is truly bad. Cerebus is really bad at parts but enough of the comic is good that the work as a whole gets a pass.

>>151152735
There's the Spider-Man Trouble comic. Essentially Marvel wanted to start appealing to female readers so their big brain idea was to make a comic about Aunt May where it turns out she's a huge whore, gets pregnant with Peter by cheating on Uncle Ben, and then lies to Uncle Ben about the kid being his which instantly backfires because Uncle Ben was mere moments away to telling her he was infertile.

>THIS WILL SURELY APPEAL TO OUR FEMALE READERS!

>>151152820
Holy shit! I worked at a comic book store when this came out! I assumed it was just an Archie type comic in the Marvel universe.

>>151144695
qrd?

>>151152999
Pic-related isn't Mary Jane. It's a young Aunt May whoring around in some summer camp. It was written by Mark Miller because of course it was. They wanted to incorporate it into official canon but since everyone fucking hated it Marvel kind of just pretends it doesn't exist.

Keep in mind if Aunt May is secretly Peter Parker's true mom this has massive ramifications for the lore if true.

>>151152820
I mean, the thing about Trouble is that it didn't affect anything. It's not Civil War or OMD, where it throws everything after it off, or like Sins Past or Avengers 200, where another writer has to go back and address it. It got referenced in Ultimate Avengers 3 and that's about it. You can bring up Aunt May and Uncle Ben and this is nowhere near what comes to mind first. It's not a good book, but it stayed within its covers, and I am at least willing to give it credit for that.

>>151150801
>slut-shaming
as if being slut wasn't shameful in on itself

>>151153171
>It got referenced in Ultimate Avengers 3 and that's about it
come again?

>>151153171
>but it stayed within its covers, and I am at least willing to give it credit for that
You really shouldn't because as pointed out here >>151153074 the original plans weren't to stay "within its covers". They wanted it to be canon and the only reason it's not is because everyone ended up hating it.

It's not the result of the creators having some artistic dignity in not screwing up Spider-Man canon it's just because everyone called the comic shit so it was just easier to ignore it's existence.

>>151153309
A clone of the Hulk with Bruce Banner's brain escaped from the Triskelion to get a book signed but got caught by Anthony, king of the vampires.

Chuck Austen's entire run on Xmen.. literally every book was worse than the next, then he capped it off by ruining Nightcrawler's backstreet, which Marvel ended up ruining even further, but at least the retconned his dad being a demon, which just goes polar opposite of what the character stands for. Chuck Austen is a fucking faggot

>>151152056
>Marvel got weird about it because military and police liked using it and Marvel felt awkward that the "wrong" type of people started liking Punisher.
Almost none of the people putting Punisher skulls on their cars read comics or even watched his TV show, the Punisher they idolize has nothing to do with the real Frank Castle. Marvel disassociating themselves from this is arguably the only sane politics-adjacent decision they've made in a long time.

>>151153601
They could have just ignored it. 90% of the people use the movie skull which the comics barely use. By changing it you are giving them the symbol.

>>151153601
The same people put Calvin and Hobbes on the back of their truck and you never heard a peep from.. I dont remember who created it

>>151153541
This page was worth it.

>>151153541
>every book was worse than the next
shouldn't it be "worse than the last"?
>his dad being a demon, which just goes polar opposite of what the character stands for
if anything it reinforces the themes of the X-Men books, that it doesn't matter what your genetic code is or what others say about you, you are what you decide to be, with Kurt being incredibly devoted despite being half demon, it shows how strong he is thanks to the power of faith and his own willpower.
that said, I've read a little of that comic run and yeah it's abysmal horseshit lmao, no matter how much I'm okay with the nightcrawler stuff, that shit can't be defended

>>151153792
A peeing Calvin decal isn't exactly an endorsement of violent vigilantism in the same way as they use the Punisher logo.

>>151152820
I've seen that mentioned/storytimed but I haven't actually read it so I didn't include it. Sounds pretty bad though.
>>151153171
Actually that reminded me, I did read all of JMS' run on Spider-Man and Sins Past was really REALLY bad.
I actually don't mind OMD too much. It's a shitty editorial mandate but I think it was done about as well as it could have been done. The premise is extraordinarily stupid but I like the BND era a lot and some of the moment-to-moment storytelling in OMD is decent. I liked the whole thing with Peter's unborn daughter being the ghost/demon that fucks with him. Reminded me a lot of Carey's run on Hellblazer. The big problem is how retarded and out of character 'Peter sells his marriage to the devil' is but I was able to ignore that in a way that I wasn't able to ignore Sins Past.

>>151149748
The movie was trash, so now I'm concerned

>>151153837
some things are worth keeping

>Like New Mutants, especially the original classic run.
>Decided to read the Krakoa era of New Mutants.
>Close to the end of the run.
>New character is randomly introduced with a big reference of *please see Marvel Voice (a comic they did for Pride).
>This new character suddenly becomes the main character for the next 9 issues.
>(Holy fucking shit was fucking Marvel bad during the Krakoa era of having random issues all over the place trying to shill multiple series by stretching characters and stories across all the titles.)
>Character is called Escapade, they are trans.
>Their powers ARE NEVER PROPERLY EXPLAINED.
>They can swap with people, but sort of a reality warping swap? Sometimes they swap back after sometime when their power wears off, sometimes they just swap powers or position but sometimes people think they are the person they swapped with. Sometimes they don't swap back.
>(Remember when Jim Shooter said, every comic is someone's first and you'd get superfluous dialogue mentioning Colossus or whoevers powers every issue? Holy fuck I missed that, this shit makes that look good. What the fuck is her power???)

>>151155870
>Escapade also has another friend who is asexual(?) whose mutant power is to turn organic matter into chocolate.
>In one part of the story, them swapping back with a character they had swapped with made sense, but later the swap backs don't happen.
>Rahne (Wolfsbane) who turns into a wolf suddenly can split into multiple wolves? The art isn't clear about this, it literally just goes BAM five wolves. No explanation either.
>(Apparently this was a secondary mutant power revealed in Secret Empire from a few years ago, again, without the art really showing the transformation or narration explaining it, it made me go, huh?)
>Multiple FULL pages of text that add NOTHING to the story, but hey Hickman did that so we should copy him. It is either: character backstory stuff the story is making plain (like the trans character had drama with her asexual friend, we don't need text chats between pages that add nothing when the drama is on the page) or it'll be stuff involving the villain for cheap attempts at jokes.
>Villain Count Nefaria has been camped up again, just like Sinister got camped up.
>No focus on any old New Mutant character or even the newer New Mutants in this series, just focus on this random trans character for the end of the run.

>>151155870
>>151155882
>Oh and, Shadow King on the cover, he wasn't even in the fucking comic, he was in earlier New Mutant issues.
>The plot of the last few New Mutants issues resolves around U-Men (guys who cut up mutants to steal their powers).
>Escapade wants to fuck Cerebella, formerly No-Girl (a brain in a jar, put there by the U-Men in a previous series) but now a bald girl because Krakoa.
>They defeat the U-Men.
>Also there was a subplot of asexual chocolate power friend dying in a vision, but spoiler, he doesn't die. He also turns the bad guys weapon against Krakoa into.. chocolate.
>Then Lethal Legion is about Escapade wanting to fuck Cerebella (pic related) and tries to fix her trauma by pulling a heist on Count Nefaria, but realises she shouldn't have imposed this mission on her and they should just help each other fix their shit instead.
>The subplot is the chocolate asexual being upset that Escapade didn't invite him on the heist.

>>151149748
God I hate Millar

>>151153042
NTA-I haven't read it myself, but it's where this page comes from

>>151157131
This is still one of the worst pages in all of comics

>>151157131
words words words
even if the content was good, far too much text

>>151152820
lmao I always thought this comic was Paris Hilton and the other one because they were popular at the time

>>151157131
It somehow gets worse. I'm glad we've mostly escaped the era of the Marguerite Bennetts, Kelly Sue Deconnicks, and Chelsea Cains of this world. Wine aunt pop feminism comics were a scourge

I read this for the book club at my LCS and it's the biggest piece of dogshit I ever read.

>>151157213
>Kelly tier strawmen (emphasis on MEN) played straight
>those fucking old masters and their problematic masterpieces, this is the age of wordswordswords agenda driven comic books, shitlords
Ok yeah, this actually might be worse than Marville.

>>151155882
>Multiple FULL pages of text that add NOTHING to the story

Steve Gerber used to do that in the 1970s sometimes and it was shit then. Giant-Size Defenders as an example. It's not that there's no story in that text it's that you can literally just skip those pages and it makes no difference to the sense of the rest of the issue.

New 52 Lobo was baffling how terrible it was. Like it legitimately seemed like an April Fools joke that they published something so tone-deaf and childish.

>>151152654
>They no longer care about the skull
Not a single person in their right mind ever did, on either side of the aisle.

>>151157547
Genuinely felt like the result of autism, where whoever made that decision genuinely didn't get that Lobo is a joke character (and a much funnier version of what Deadpool tries to be).

>>151157213
need a storytime of pain

I don't know if it's the "worst" I've ever read, but it's easily the most disappointing based on the pedigree of the talent involved. James Harren sure ain't no Daniel Warren Johnson, that's for sure.

>>151157653
I'll get one started now

Ultimate End by Bendis

>>151143023 (OP)
Wow they just blatantly ripped off Smallville

>>151143023 (OP)
i can't remember what issue it was but jason todd shows up in full denim and had something to do with lil green aliens showing up and turning the town into a Beatles concert this chink was also trying to find roy palmer. fuck it was awful i fucking hated it made me fucking nauseous fuck this garbage $15 wasted.

>>151158615
sounds like something from countdown, which was largely shit

>>151154150
>Spider-Totem
>Sins Past
>OMD
>got cucked twice by Quesada
Everyone who says JMS had a great run is a fucking retard

>>151144695
>co-written by Emilia Clarke
Wtf?

Sentry: Fallen Sun

>>151158753
People hate all that shit, they but the characterisation of Spider-Man was pretty on point which is why, despite all that nonsense, JMS is still recommended.

>>151158944
That speaks volumes on how shit has been Spider- Man since the 90's.

>>151146563
The worst part was the "letter from the writer" at the end of the last issue where he basically confirmed what everyone suspected and that this was purely to spite the people who use the Punisher logo.

>>151159271
>the people who use the Punisher logo.

nazis, anon, you can just say nazis

>>151159661
Stop misusing that word.

>>151144695
>half-naked woman: sexual object!
>half-naked men: it's not the same thing! Fantasy of power!

What a joke.

>>151159773
Get offended, Hitler.

>>151160159
Fine, Have more people killed because they disagree with you.

>>151158944
JMS sucks.

>>151144918
>New52
>Tom King's name on the cover
Seriously, WTF did you expect?

>>151159661
>low IQ admits to world he has low IQ

>>151152341
>And who’s the right type of people?
People who DON'T spend actual money on comics and merch, as long as they more importantly have the same politics as le writers. It's a recipe for destroying a generations old institution.

>>151152735
>>Cerebus (the bad parts)
Would that happen to be the majority of the middle? I read through the entire series recently and Holy Shit what happened in the middle? I wound up pretty much flipping through until the last issue. How did it fall off so hard yet stick the landing?

>>151152820
>Essentially Marvel wanted to start appealing to female readers
>EVERY ATTEMPT FAILS (to gain enough female readers, spare me the White Knighting herp derp women read comics toooo bullshit)
>Marvel KEEPS trying anyway!

>>151157599
We’re not talking about people in their right minds, are we?

>>151155221
I’m not sure the movie really has any redeeming qualities, but my god the book is so fucking terrible it’s mind blowing.

>>151153601
Do you say the same about women that wear band shirts?

>>151155870
>Remember when Jim Shooter said, every comic is someone's first and you'd get superfluous dialogue mentioning Colossus or whoevers powers every issue?
Kek. As a fellow OG New Mutants fan, it got to the point I'd roll my eyes and say "No Shit Sherlock" every fucking time Cannonbal would say "Ah'm invulnerable while ah'm blastin':" I get it, I appreciated the edict, but for whatever reason Cannonball seemed to get the most repetitive explaination compared to everyone else in every Marvel title I read.

>>151143023 (OP)
That young avengers from like 2013

>>151162246
Whenever anyone complains about Claremont, they're really complaining about Shooter's editorial edicts. Claremont's slice-of-life backups in X-Men Classic have none of the "quirks" of his original monthly run.

>>151143023 (OP)
The Unfunnies.
It's not even close.

This one. Was it the worst comic I'd EVER read? No. But it was the straw that broke this camel's back. THIS was the bellweather that told me comics were over, that everything going forward was just poorly written propaganda by broken hack writers.

Two literal WHO's show up, the girl is literally just as good as Cap (why? because she's a WOMAN!) meanwhile you just knew the male was going to get pulped because he's a male and a White male at that. The ruination of Cap at the end was just the icing on the turd. Add in what Marvel was up to in the rest of their books with FemThor and "ask me about my feminist agenda", it was clear that the writing would be forever predictable, women were all paragons of perfection (which somehow makes Superman "boring" but it's okay when EVERY female character is the same undefeatable perfection, same with certain minorities.)

While this wasn't the worst thing I'd ever read, this was the book that made me abandon Marvel and stop reading ALL comics made after 2016. The feminist crap was really getting bad, but Orange Man absolutely broke everyone and led to an industry purge. And now here we are.

>>151152820
Anything Mark Millar churns out is bad. Fight me

>>151162349
Huh??? WTF does that have to do with anything I said?
I recently read the entire backup story run in X-Men Classic. The majority were pure trash. The worst was Dazzler in the cafe talking with her friends. Holy Shit, what a worthless waste of ink and paper. Jim Shooter did a TON necessary of 'tard wrangling. Claremont sucked outside of X-Men, simple as.

>>151157547
I remember when someone posted part of a porn comic of Lobo in /co/ (nothing lewd was showing) and all anons were talking about how better it look to what DC was putting out and how much they'd rather read that kek

>>151161673
you suck, there was nothing wrong with the comics *initially* regarding the spider-totem shit

>>151162246
Like I said though, I felt nostalgic for it because of how bad that shit was. Escapade in that series had a power with no fucking logic or rules. Ranhe turning into multiple wolves? Again, I had no idea. That old stuff was superfluous, but no explanation is absurd.

>>151161673
Babylon 5 is a masterpiece but holy fuck his comics suck. His last one was a real doozy.

>>151153870
yes, worse than the last.. im retarded. Anyway, I do get your point about Kurt, but when I read it I just remember thinking 'so one of the most identifying qualities of Nightcrawler is that he looks like a devil, but is man of devout faith, yet here we are, with an unoriginal, cringe lord writer deciding to make him part demon because Austen cant help but insert his disdain for Christianity into everything he does'..its mind numbing faggotry

Maestro Hulk. Hulk ruling the post apocalypse is already kinda dumb but there could have ways to make it more interesting, instead its just random bullshit and Maestro acting like a stereotypical tyrant.

>>151158575
That was the joke anon

>>151161696
If that's not bad enough, the storyline is literally just King remaking Flashpoint but with Booster. It's somehow worse than Flashpoint

>>151161891
Classic Bendis!

>>151153074
>if Aunt May is secretly Peter Parker's true mom this has massive ramifications for the lore if true
She treats him like her son already

>>151143023 (OP)
Some blogger called it the greatest comic of all time. It was not.

>>151162706
??? It was just silly shenanigans with the owner trying to get an insurance scam going

>>151163957
I'm just burntout from food's heavy presence in comics these days.

>>151150801
look everyone an authentic 2010 era tumblr post! exercise caution and dont use a flash on your camera!

>>151143023 (OP)
It skirts the line between published comics and bootlegs, but this series ranges from bad to just astonishingly awful. Even Roll being naked probably 70% of the time can't improve it.

>>151163668
The few people that liked it all said the same thing. It's crazy.
They also said the art is amazing, even though it's so fucking bad.

>>151155941
>No-Girl's new body
I remember someone in the original read-along thread for it comparing it to them reviving a mutant with seduction powers who was raped to death by her evil evangelical father and giving her the new name "Pillow Princess" and giving her a stripper's version of the blue and gold suit.

>>151161891
Has Carol ever apologized for trying to lynch Miles on the steps of the Capital Building and then beating Iron Man to death for protecting him? If not, that's going to be the new version of her calling out the Avengers for Avengers #200 in a few years.

>>151164218
I love the moment where the author-insert literally outright states that this entire comic was meant to be a rugpull to establish a genuine Brazilian comic book scene.

>>151164980
No-Girl literally complains during the run that the name No-Girl was super offensive to her because it was mocking the fact she didn't have a body because the U-Men literally took her brain out of her original body. So it is like you become a mutant and then the chad X-Men mutants give you a name that is high school bullying.

>Dr. Light was a mad rapist and genuinely one of the League's greatest villains
>The League has ALWAYS been morally gray and erases brains left and right
>Batman's whole paranoia about superheroes going rogue? TOTALLY JUSTIFIED!
>Deathstroke can single handedly defeat the Justice League without breaking a sweat
>Superman only hears what he WANTS to hear; implying he heard Sue getting raped and the whole "scramble Light's brain" plan, but chose to ignore it
>The League pulls in every detective and super-genius to figure out a locked room murder... but no-one checked the call logs to see who called Sue right before she died
>Jean just... had a flame-thrower on her?
>Let's kill Jake Drake and make Tim like every other Robin. Why? Because FUCK YOU.
>All so the League can be broken and weak in time for Infinite Crisis
One of the worst fucking comics I've ever read.

>>151165233
To top it all off, they don't even give her her regular body back. They modify it so that she's STILL Brain in the Jar Girl; she just has her original body attached to it now.

>>151165303
I mean there was a time when she was a brain in a jar attached to a body (pic related). But during Krakoa she requested a body of her own via the resurrection protocols of the five and got a new body, this pic: >>151155941

And yet, despite being able to grow a whole new full body on Krakoa, she still wanted her brain exposed because ????

>>151161891
and did the same for Tony too, he was so shitty and OOC there
>>151159661
but why would he die?

>>151165233
That's all they do tho. Even of the O5 it's only really Iceman and Angel who get good names. Marvel Girl is the Girl One on the Boy Team. Beast doesn't even look like a monster until he turns himself into one trying to make X-Men cool in 1971. Cyclops could have had a cool name like Ray-Band or something to get around trademarks but nope, they named him after a one-eyed monster. The guy handing out the names? Notably not called Doctor Nolegs.

It's genuinely surprising none of them are called Ligma or Thundercunt.

>>151165921
do you even read Punisher comics, Frank dies every other run

>>151166284
>That's all they do tho.
I mean they don't? A bunch of your examples are fine names to be honest and not really comparable.

>>151166598
>big hands and feet
>he's a Beast
>female
>GIRL
>Cyclops
>ODYSSEUS Are they hospitable and reverent towards strangers?
>SILENUS Strangers, they say, supply the daintiest meat.

>>151165921
why would he lie*
brain farted very hard

>>151165288
the frustrating thing about this is metlzer's writing style is quite good, and the way he writes ollie and some of the moments he writes (like ralph talking about how he met sue, the funeral, superman and his family, merlyn and the calculator and the extended universe as a whole) was decent.
but as you say, the murder mystery made ZERO sense (especially given ray still loved jean and jean initiated the divorce), the silver-age JL slander was disheartening, and the deathstroke fight was one of the most retarded things I have ever seen, particularly wally literally running into a sword for no reason
also, killing off ronnie raymond for no reason was a bit uncalled for

the superman hearing what he wants to I feel was more an implication that he knew what the league had done to light and batman but thought it was the lesser of two evils, and then batman at the end apparently knows what he wants to know and recognised that what happened to him was necessary for the league to continue (which then obviously changed in countdown to infinite crisis, JLA and infinite crisis)

>>151166816
I completely forgot that this is when they killed Ronnie. IIRC, it was originally going to be Capt Atom to explain why he got sent to the Wildstorm universe. It's not like Firestorm really NEEDED a refresh, but they at least gave him one instead of just giving him be one of those "Eh, who gives a shit about Bronze Age characters?" deaths and never talking about him again.

>>151143023 (OP)
IDW TMNT will only get worse.

>>151160056
is the half naked woman muscular main character, or just pouting eyecandy? thats the difference generally.

>>151158753
Spider-Totem is fine because outside of the Dr. Strange issue (which is in itself a fun issue) it can all be dismissed as deranged beliefs of other people.
Sins Past is irredeemable garbage but, as I mentioned, OMD isn't nearly as bad as people say. People [deservedly] hate it for being a retarded premise but the moment-to-moment storytelling is fine and outside of the last issue it isn't particularly bad. I don't think it's a good storyline but putting it on the same level as Ultimatum or Civil War 2 or whatever is, I believe, an overreaction.

JMS had AMS 500 which is a great issue. It also had the first Morlun story which was great; Aunt May finding out Peter's identity; Peter being a chemistry teacher; that Spider-Wasp lady; and a fun story with Doc Ock. It has a lot of good aspect (albeit almost all of them from the first half of his tenure on the title) and his writing was solid. I won't apologize or be browbeaten into pretending that JMS didn't do a lot of good to balance out the bad he did on AMS.

>>151145700
I only know about this one because the author was really, really bitter it didn't win an award and torpedoed her career insulting the winner's art in a whiny little twitter comic. Infantile behavior.

>>151161696
Rebirth, actually. Worse than Nu52.

>>151166701
I don't think Marvel Girl is that bad, Cyclops and Beast sure, but again, that is more jovial than:
>girl brain in a jar, no-girl lol
Chad X-men can take it, no name mutants are just getting bullied. Same with the poor Morlocks.

>>151157547
I think there's still a guy out there defending new 52 Lobo. I haven't seen him on /co/ in awhile but there's atleast one fan.

I know it's a weird choice, but I read Action Comics #283 yesterday, and it was one of the worst-written comics I've ever read. The dialogue is terrible.

>>151167699
You're not allowed to dislike this, sorry.

>>151165921
The thing is that Tony was already shitty, all CW2 did was make Carol more shitty than him. Which says a lot considering who she was before.

>>151158753
>Spider-Totem
Literally the ending of the original story with the concept is Peter irradiating himself to push Morlun's shit in, saying that it doesn't matter WHERE his powers came from, but how he used them.

>Sins Past
The original premise was that the twins were Peter and Gwen's kids that Osborne stole and experimented on as sick revenge on Peter. Blame Quesada for mandating into into what it became.

>OMD
Another Quesada mandate. ANYONE who was on the title at the time would have been forced to do it.

>>151167538
Whatever happened to Nu-bo?

>>151146797
I thought Azzarello and Richard Corben did the MAX Luke Cage book?

>>151143023 (OP)
The ending to Act of God was always weird to me. Three dour issues of heroes lamenting and coming to terms with having their powers taken away (and how Batman is le greatest), and then it ends with Superman and Wonder Woman's baby just doing this. It's at odds with the text; instead of actually showing that there always will be heroes, even without powers, it just tells us while showing us the next generation won't actually have to worry about that

>>151168842
>Superman and Wonder Woman's baby
Why every Post-Crisis writer was obsessed with this idea?

>>151164980
>>151165233
>>151167479
>"And that's who you'll be from now on...No-Girl!"

>>151157213
>this pose is literally impossible
it literally isn't you anatomically illiterate whore.
Fucking hambeasts think that since they can't certain ways, no one else can either.

>>151168983
*bend certain ways

>>151168930
And what's ironic is that they made No-Girl a "lesbian" for Escapade who is not a girl (trans).

>>151152820
Fuck me I remember reading that, shit was so surreal. Thanks for the walk through the memory, I will do my best to forget this shit because I can't afford to have brain cancer again

>>151168660
Brainiac has him in a jar.

>>151157248
Why?

>>151167783
Why not? It's terrible.

>>151170180
It's good old fashioned hokey comic book dialogue. Also, I fucking WISH modern civvies were this aware of what's going on in their own world.

>Silver Age
Golly gee! Superman just turned that man into a flock of pigeons when he winked at him. Either that guy is a new villain, or Superman's been given a new kooky superpower from Red Kryptonite! [Editor's Note: Red K, as you know, gives Superman a new power (good or bad!) for 24 hours!]

>Modern Comics
Superman just used a new superpower. This is obviously the justification I need to ask the government to kill all children with superpowers and gas all other superheroes: who have never in my entire life ever done any good for the whole of the human race. Except for ending our Worlds at War, stopping Darkseid from enslaving all of us, keeping an evil version of Batman from annihilating us from existence, and literally driving away Death itself.

>>151157131
>mfw reading through the storytime of the first chapter
It's the worst kind of quirky millennial woke feminist writing you can have; right down to the disabled lesbian POC hecking smart scientist lady whose only personality traits are being harassed by every guy ever and saying "You so crazy, white girl!" Of course a celebrity co-signed this. It's the most out-of-touch shit I've ever read.

>>151155882
>>151155941
The worst thing about this New Mutants shit is how some of the characters talk, they feel flat and have the cadence of two tumblr posts commenting on something. The character work is really sort of insane, inhuman and bizarre. Too many writers ingesting online tumblr speak. Not saying you need naturalisation dialogue but fuck me is it bad.

>>151170522
Anon, I've been reading Golden and Silver Age Superman comics all week. I know the tone to expect. Literally none of them were close to this terrible.
>I fucking WISH modern civvies were this aware of what's going on in their own world.
I don't. It's unnatural for literally every person to know everything about Superman. And what's definitely not needed is every character re-explaining things that either happened a page ago, or is literally happening right in front of them.

>>151168644
JMS was fully on board with OMD until the Mephisto part.
>ANYONE who was on the title at the time would have been forced to do it.
The story was specifically planned by Quesada to be JMS last story for Spidey, only he could write it.

>>151144918
can someone fill me in on what the fuck this is about

>>151172150
I don't remember it that well but I think booster gold tries to save bruce's parents as a birthday present and creates a fucked up world where everyone is jokerised, so batman and booster have to stop booster gold from doing it in the first place or something
the only thing I remember is green lantern blowing his brains out with his own ring

>>151172599
Oh, is that where this is from?

>>151152341
Apparently the "right" response is that "Punisher hates crooked cops too!".
I'm pretty sure cops who like the Punisher hate crooked cops with a passion. Punisher is their fantasy of someone not tied to the system fixing it, even if brutally.
The Punisher comes from the same era as Dirty Harry, when crime was up and people felt helpless. Now crime is up again, but the "progressive" thing to do is to blame poverty or society instead of the people actually committing crimes. Another fatal stabbing in London? Sad, but have you considered how horrible racism is? Etc. Punisher is Marvel's own middle finger aimed at themselves.

>>151143023 (OP)
How is it the worst comics?

>>151174133
the first issue had a bunch of references to dc being bought by aol, and a lot of tryhard humour that didn't land. then it went schizo, had someone use a time machine to talk to god and tried to be philosophical.

also the context is that it was written as part of a wager between jemas and peter david, and it clearly demonstrated that despite saving marvel from the brink, he didn't give a shit about comics as a medium or respect them.

I personally think >>151144105 summarised marville perfectly. I recommend reading it to see how bad it is

>>151174133
First issue is the worst "parody" of then current comic books ever made. The next 6 issues keep doing that while trying to be The Invisibles. I wish I was joking.

>>151143023 (OP)
>What is the worst comic you have ever read?

Anything done by Tom King, Moore or Miller.

>>151172150
The other anon gave you yhe quickest run down fpr the most part. There are some parts that really really ticked me off, like Booster Gold thinking it would be a great idea tp reunite this bruce with that world's catwoman, and that ends up with catwoman killing his parents in cold blood. And the end is super cynical, like batman fucking killing himself out of guilt while Gold is like "don't you see, batman, we saved the world", and then we get one final page where gold is like "yeah, i didn't mean it to end like that and now i sort of have Pstd out of it, but it's cool because you guys are cool and will forgive me" and we are supposed to feel bad for Gold. What the actual fuck.
>>151172627
I still really don't understand the purpose of that scene. And again, Gold is like "okay, that was messed up, but also kinda awesome you could force your ring into killing you"

>>151153171
Speak a little Chinese for em Ben

>>151157867
Harren has more talent in his pinky than that shitlord will ever have.

>>151175204
>we are supposed to feel bad for Gold
I do, he was being controlled by the villain known as Tom King.

>>151157131
Ahh, this one. So many one just to say "I'm retarded"

>>151158846
There was a small window of time where Hollywood people got a lot of credits in some comics. I don't think any of them had any more involvement on their books than something like the Stan Lee method.

>>151165169
And in the next issue said writer immediately gets booted and his insert deleted from the comic.

>>151172627
at least it makes a nice reaction image

>>151171875
The Mephisto part is what absolutely ruins it. Sans it, the story is about Peter trying to move heaven and earth to get out of the consequences of his actions, only to realize that he can't save May.
Even if it ended with he and MJ split-up, the implication would have been that they could absolutely get back together when they felt it was safe.

>>151172627
Heroes in crisis

>>151157131
How could she graduate as an engineer without concluding high school? Is that possible in the USA?

>>151164218
>>151165169
>>151175667
Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh at or applaud this guy. It takes balls to come up with this plan right from the start instead of it just happening by accident. Like, there's precedent for supporting OC characters eclipsing the main character or the OC's getting their own story as a back-up feature (Archie Sonic immediately comes to mind), so it could have worked if he played the long game.

But at the same time, even Ken Penders didn't have one of Knuckles' family members look directly in the camera and say "This comic book is literally just my failed script that Image never bought. Fuck Sonic, Fuck Knuckles, and Fuck Sega! This is The Lost Ones now and there's nothing you can do about it!" Not to mention that very funny levels of Dobsonian "I HATE ANIME (he cries as his character is literally a Ranma 1/2 reject)"

>>151167408
>OMD isn't nearly as bad as people say. People [deservedly] hate it for being a retarded premise but the moment-to-moment storytelling is fine and outside of the last issue it isn't particularly bad. I don't think it's a good storyline but putting it on the same level as Ultimatum or Civil War 2 or whatever is, I believe, an overreaction.

I agree that the storytelling wasn't that bad, but the problem is what it made us lose. Ultimatum ruined the Ultimate universe? Oh well, at least it had some nice moments, and even got rebooted in an interesting way recently. Civil War 2 ruined Carol Danvers? Well her new "Marvel's Wonder Woman" characterisation was boring anyway, I much preferred her as a drunk fuckup. OMD making Spider-Man sell his marriage to the devil in order to make his elderly aunt live again, returning everything to a younger status quo is the denial of Spider-Man's responsibility motto both in-universe for Peter and in real life for Marvel Comics itself. It ruined Spider-Man conceptually so much that I could not take any of the further comics seriously since then. I'm not a hater, btw, I have sincerely tried many times to enjoy new Spider-Man comics, and I just couldn't.

>>151163668
Sounds like he was joking or being ironic

Like liking the room

>>151172627
Fucking kek

>>151175963
Quesada and JMS original plan was to resurrect Gwen and Harry and restore the pre-1971 status quo (Gwen dating Peter and Harry dating MJ) but everyone at Marvel vetoed the idea, so Quesada came out with Mephisto and somehow that was accepted. Either way OMD was always doomed to fail

>>151175166
Lumping those together means you're incapable of discernment.

>>151175166
I think you wanted to say Millar

>>151175595
>Stan Lee method
I doubt she even wrote the dialogue on that one, probably only wrote a small premise

>>151177213
Absolutely insane that the best path really would have just been May dying and Peter having to deal with knowing he inaction cost another life.

>>151176501
No, several people online have praised it hard.

>>151178042
And everyone would've been fine with that, Marvel being desperate to keep her alive only makes sense to them

>>151172627
>>151175690
Same energy

>>151165288
Don't forget:
>having Jean's motivation be completely at odds with past continuity
>turning Boomerang into a fat, slovenly loser out of nowhere specifically just to kill him off and replace him with his previously unmentioned son

That god-awful Female Furies book. Prime Goodness was smoking hot, but everything else was a garbage fire.

>>151176209
As a brazilian, I've met some comic book artists from my country and we only have two kinds: rich kid and nutcase. It's a tiny, tiny market and only the truly autistic nerd that loves Superman with the same passion Chris-chan loved his mother can have a career.

>>151175595
Keanu seems legitimately involved in and invested in BRZRKR, but that's the only one.
>>151176137
The Green Lantern suicide page is from a Tom King Batman issue, #45 I believe

Also dunno if it's the absolute worst ever but the comic I read most recently that I enjoyed the least was Ultimate Spider-Man Incursion.

>>151143023 (OP)
One more day and Injustice.

>>151143023 (OP)
This was one of the most forgettable runs I have ever read. I don't remember any of it. Absolute dogshit, but, then again, it is the New 52.

>>151143951
>tom king

>CIA influence
>shitty talent
>nobody likes him
>continuously getting high-profile work within a certain subculture

hmmmm.............................................

>>151159661
or... literally just regular fucking fans of the punisher

>>151146563
Does ANY of the woke or politically-themed rebranding ever work? Every time it's monumentally retarded. Comics don't really need to respond to the outside world at all, they just need to be good. That is literally the ONLY thing I am looking for.

>>151150801
>continuity porn
??????

i dont even know what this phrase means

>>151178220
They squandered her death in ASM #400 because of the same "We GOTTA reset things back to the first 25 issues of the series again!" bullshit. She should have been dead a full decade before this storyline.

>>151152056
That decision making is from the same faggots that truly believe the OK symbol means "White Power".

In real life, Black Mirror-esque shit happens every single fucking day.

>>151166816
>metlzer's writing style is quite good

NTA, but I completely disagree.

>>151165288
Meltzer wrote the most disjointed Justice League run I have ever read. He would constantly have 2 or 3 parallel scenes going for several issues, and it only made sense at the very end when everything converges.

I don't understand how writers don't get this, but if the if the reader can't tell what the FUCK is happening, it is not entertaining, it is just frustrating. His ENTIRE run is like this. Complete dogshit. The climaxes weren't even that exciting, either.

It's a shame such cool-looking art was ruined with dogshit writing. Grant Morrison's earlier JLA run should have used Benes's art.

>>151176501
Nope
https://goodokbad.com/top500.html
https://goodokbad.com/reviews/duncan_the_wonder_dog_review.php

>>151178604
tvtropes brainrot term

>>151178432
Is this the comic where picrel comes from? I remember people being appalled that Darkseid would rape his subjects.

>>151158846
>Emilia Clarke has co-written the comic book series
M.O.M.: Mother of Madness with Marguerite Bennett, and the upcoming Peacock series Ponies with Susanna Fogel and David Iserson. She also contributed to the screenplay for the 2019 film Last Christmas alongside Emma Thompson and Greg Wise, though the extent of her direct contribution to the script is debated
Welp, seems like Khaleesi had to find a hobby to pass all those long hours squatting in the grass

>>151179079
I thought the outrage was that Darkseid would even have carnal urges to begin with, let alone the fact that it's Granny Goodness that he wants to bust an Omega Nut inside of?

>>151178907
I assume this is one of those "Red Tornado wants to be human" arcs, but what the fuck am I looking at here?

>Panel 1 and 4
Red Tornado coming home to his wife and kid?

>Panel 2 and 5
The Metal Men are dead somehow (not even how their bodies work), which is probably tied into Red Tornado having a new body?

>Panel 3
Batman trying to piece this "mystery" together?

>>151178432
>New GILF look with that same Granny Goodness taste
My word...

>>151178907
I only read the Lightning Saga parts because I was big into the Legion and JSA at the time. How bad does it get?

>>151179150
>>151179079
>Battle makes me hungry for what food cannot fill

really does sound like he's begging for pegging

>>151167699
>>151170932
This just reads like every Silver Age comic.

>>151179971
I really doesn't. I've read almost fifty of them in the last week, and this is the only one with dialogue this bad.

>>151180419
Would you care to share a page of superior Silver Age dialogue? Most people only really think of the hokey stuff when it comes to that time period, so that Superman page looks par for the course.

>>151180696
Yesterday, I read a two-issue storyline about the Legion of Superheroes and Superboy fighting a bunch of robots. Shit was fun as hell. Tail end of the Silver Age, but I've got good stuff from earlier too.