Thread 151151395

>two characters of same gender are best friends
>Heterosexual Life Partners
>two characters of opposite genders are best friends
>Platonic Life Partners
>child character is naive
>Children Are Innocent
>child character is wise
>Wise Beyond Their Years
>funeral takes place on a rainy day
>It Always Rains at Funerals
>funeral takes place on a sunny day
>It’s Always Sunny at Funerals

Comics & Cartoons board dumbass

>>151151403
Yeah? Every cartoon or comic you've ever heard of has a page.

>>151151395 (OP)
>these are all real pages
How long did it take you to gather these tropes

>>151151416
AAAAAAH FUCK WHY WOULD YOU POST THAT?!?!

>>151151416
>Every cartoon or comic you've ever heard of has a page.
No not really
There a couple of comics that don't have pages

The only thing I consistently use TV Tropes for is the trivia pages, and character pages, to help me keep track of names.

>gay character dies
>Bury Your Gays

>>151151581
And I thank God for that. There are things I don't want tropers knowing about.

Why is nearly every examples image from some very obscure webcomics from the 2000s-mid 2010s

>>151151395 (OP)
I feel like essentializing everything into "tropes" makes things feel robotic. Like its a "death of art" kind of thing where you aren't writing "characters" and instead you're writing "tropes".

Its like power scalers, but where power scalers are fun to talk to because they said crackhead shit like "This guy, beat that guy, who beat that guy, who beat this multiversal guy, so the first guy is multiversal!" tropers just say "that's the pee pee poo poo trope" with no real thoughts behind it in relation to art. You can explain the trope, but that doesn't mean you get the trope or how it works with art.

>>151151753
Because Tropers use the site to shill their autistic hyperfixation.

>>151151757
It normally leads to people trying to avoid or subvert tropes for the sake of subversion without understanding that tropes aren't a bad thing inherently. TV Tropes ruined a whe generation of writers

>>151151395 (OP)
Why do you use this site if it makes you so angry

>>151151656
>disabled character dies
>Bury Your Disabled
>female character dies
>Disposable Woman
>other characters react to the female character dying
>Stuffed In A Fridge
>racial minority character dies
>Black Dude Dies First
>only kill off straight white able-bodied men
>Men Are The Expendable Gender

>>151151757
I think it's because shallow TV serialization writing often is formulaic, deeper than just rising and falling action, conflict, climax, b story, etc stuff and it gets further reduced to simple personality types defined in artistically easy to categorize ways. Cranking out many episodes through the years has people going to old reliables: body swap episodes, double booking, mistaken identity, shrinking episodes, witch trials, etc. They all become proper nouns and creates a culture where you feel smarter for diagnosing and knowing media, you know the moving parts and their names. And there are some industry words for some things but I can see how making a culture about that is dumb. It's also alienating; most people don't know your tropes and reviewing what you like or don't like doesn't require a trope for reference.

>>151151757
>>151151906
If you accept its origins as a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fanfic site, it makes a lot more sense why they're obsessed with cataloging similar elements and themes based on pattern recognition and less on actual story structure

>>151151753
>>151151795
Something I'm happy has died out is the unending obsession with Madoka Magica and Doctor Who. Every page had an example from MM and all the WMGs had this awful running gag about someone being a Time Lord. To the degree that it was starting to feel like tropers didn't even know what a Time Lord was. A lot of the most actually autists who need the thing they like to be on every page seem to have been chased off the site.

>>151151416
I remember when the "Getting crap past the radar" page for the Forbidden Show ran to three pages.

>Red
>Subverted, this character is blue

>>151151757
A trope is a tool, like a hammer or screwdriver. Proper use is good. Subversion is like using a screwdriver handle to get in a nail, sure it works, but a hammer would have been better for that situation.

>>151151997
There was a time where that show had so many tropes that you could fill a book with example pages. In hindsight, it wasn't that fucking good so I'll never understand why these people lost their shit over it.

>>151151997
>>151152034
What's the forbidden show? I am willing to bet i know it but i have seen several things get banned so i am not sure which one you are talking about.

>>151152110
Wait, thinking about it the most forbidden i can think of is "kodomo no jikan"

>>151151974
A lot of the page quotes are still Discworld. One of the times the fixation on a thing was good, because it's fuckin' Discworld, but that's not too /co/ related sadly.

But I liked the running jokes at first. At first.

>>151152110
Anything involving lolicon, basically

Oh boy, it's that time again!
http://web.archive.org/web/20110317041354/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/NightmareFuel
http://web.archive.org/web/20110317041354/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/BadassLongcoat
http://web.archive.org/web/20110303073901/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/BadassBoast
http://web.archive.org/web/20100526232516/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/BigBrotherInstinct
http://web.archive.org/web/20110225120453/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/BewareTheNiceOnes
http://web.archive.org/web/20110226124822/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/BrilliantButLazy
http://web.archive.org/web/20110114001248/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/NICEHAT
http://web.archive.org/web/20110407014802/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/IncestIsRelative
http://web.archive.org/web/20100329081326/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/ObfuscatingStupidity
http://web.archive.org/web/20100819103551/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/KissingCousins
http://web.archive.org/web/20090113230746/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/CatchPhrase
http://web.archive.org/web/20090415062743/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/GeniusDitz
http://web.archive.org/web/20100412140712/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/StalkerWithACrush
http://web.archive.org/web/20110226115102/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/CelibateHero
http://web.archive.org/web/20110502020559/http://tvtropes.org:80/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/DraggedIntoDrag
http://web.archive.org/web/20100616184943/http://tvtropes.org:80/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/WholesomeCrossdresser
http://web.archive.org/web/20100407091326/http://tvtropes.org:80/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/PottyFailure
http://web.archive.org/web/20100227021537/http://tvtropes.org:80/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/FootFocus

>>151152531

https://web.archive.org/web/20110224184827/tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer
http://web.archive.org/web/20091121020459/http://tvtropes.org:80/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/MemeticMutation
http://web.archive.org/web/20101009213621/http://tvtropes.org:80/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TroperTales/NWordPrivileges

>TVtropes is blocking adblockers
FUCK YOU

>>151152580
Sites dying and the admins are panicking

>>151152008
I disagree. Subversion isn't inherently bad and originally rose from just boredom of repetition. Take love triangles for example, they are a trope in groups of characters but honestly it is damn tiresome and obnoxious most of the time.

>>151152110
The forbidden show on /co/ is the one that got its own board that we aren't allowed to talk about anymore.

>>151151395 (OP)
I used to know a guy online who was huge into TVTropes. Loved editing pages and adding stuff, he was a nice guy. Died from some illness when he was like 22 a few years back. Never was close to him but I liked him. Didn't deserve that.

>>151151974
Ah yes

Ms. Frizzle is a Time Lord.

>>151152531
>>151152573
I don't understand why people posted this on the internet entirely of their own volition.

>>151151416
What absolute pussy thought that image was even remotely scary?

>>151152762
probably a brony

>Recent show is obviously bad
>Trannytropes sucks it off like the second coming of Christ
If they had a shred of integrity, their "So Bad It's Horrible" section would have doubled in size with the rise of streaming slop.

tvtropes(I.E. blatently off topic gossipfaggotry, website ad revenue shilling, thinly veiled wiki raid request) threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/4 >>>/global/rules/6 >>>/global/rules/11 and >>>/co/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=151151395

>>151152531
what the actual fuck LMFAO

>>151152191
>Discworld
I can't bring myself to read the last one bros.

>>151152774
Leave bronies out of this.

>>151151416
Why is /co/ pretending to be surprised that a wiki, which can be publicly edited by anyone, has some shitty and retarded content?

>>151151757
There's a lot of value in having a shared lexicon for storytelling, in the same way there's a lot of value in having dictionaries. It's not for diagnosing stories, but for talking about them.

I wish the fucking site understood that. Why is it so hard for these wingnuts to just be fans of things? They had to go and make it weird.

>>151152779
Tvtropes runs propaganda for certain games and movies. Check out the pages for The Last of Us Part 2 and Star Wars Rebels sometime.

>>151151416
>Aah! Some kid smiling awkwardly in a poorly-lit room! I'm terrified beyond comprehension!
Please tell me that pic was added as a joke. The idea that someone old enough to edit that page would be even slightly frightened by it is just plain pathetic.

>>151152762
maybe it was a Kirby fan
t. Kirby fan

>>151152531
>http

>>151155124
It's not a joke, but I doubt the guy making those pages was really scared of it. IIRC they were just...weirdly hyperfixated on this cartoon and was basically coming up with any excuse to add another section to its TV Tropes page so more people would know about it.

>>151151817
>>Stuffed In A Fridge
Gee, THANKS, Gail.

>>151151757
>I feel like essentializing everything into "tropes" makes things feel robotic. Like its a "death of art" kind of thing where you aren't writing "characters" and instead you're writing "tropes".
that's why the website is for actual autists. they consume and compartmentalize art, they don't make art.

>>151151757
Tropifying media is the feminine equivalent of powerscaling

>>151154147
The problem is the wiki itself is inherently shitty and retarded.

The faggots running this site recently made it impossible to browse with ad block on, which is mildly annoying but also a complete bitch move.

who seriously had the time to write all this?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Pantheon/MythicalCreaturesAndBeings

>>151151416
DON'T FUCKING POST SOMETHING THIS SCARY WITHOUT A SPOILER

>>151151416
AHHHH!! SCARY!!

>>151151757
amy rose smoking a blunt, who classifies the girl smokes cigar trope, could beat goku.

>>151151974
Didn't forget literally anything is a "dying dream."

>>151152762
They autistically have to make a page for everything. Same with crowning moment of awesome, heartwarming, and funny

>>151154784
I don't know about that

>>151153408
I know how you feel lad.

>>151151395 (OP)
>funeral takes place on a rainy day
>irony

>Harsher in Hindsight
>that fictional character died in the show....and two decades later the actor that voice acted him died too..........
>this episode is really uncomfortable to watch after the 2016 and 2024 USA elections..........

>>151155124
This is classic case of unsupervised retard editing page alone. That page changed years ago. Most likely because original spam on /co/

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1565302756076121800
Here thread about fixing this page and guy who put that image
>I'm sorry, guys. When I added the image back in 2017, I wanted to pick an image that evoked a creepy vibe. I thought that picture was perfect due to how ominous it was, not to mention that a super fast and shadowy closeup could easily scare younger viewers. Here is some details behind the scene on the page itself.
Nightmare fuel page is also gone now https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/ReadyJetGo

>>151158718
>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/NightmareFuel/ReadyJetGo

I think that page was archived. It's just a caption and an image.

>>151153004
as a kid, tv tropes made me think the nostalgia critic was a wise ancient media guru the way his name kept popping up on every page.

>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HypnosisInducedSlumber
>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForcedSleep

>>151154147
We thrive off pointing and laughing at others.
Also all TVTropes threads are KF threads in disguise.

>>151152762
I love this imagine because it implies the kid is perfectly fine with whatever is upsetting the "adults"

>>151160841
The reason the site became like that was because Gus was libertarian. I didn't think he knew that autistic weirdos would ruin the site.

>>151156645
No that is shipping. Tropping is the ocd version of powerscaling (math nerd)

>>151151395 (OP)
Are you seriously too fucking stupid to understand what a trope is? It's not a cliche, it's not something ironic, it's not a "Haha bet you didn't expect THAT, did you faggot?!?!?" plot twist.

>>151152191
>but that's not too /co/ related sadly.

There were two animated adaptations.

>>151151416
for the record the person who made this was an extremely autistic woman who left the site in shame

>Racial minority/woman is the first to die in the last 5 seconds
>Black Guy Dies First

>>151161233
the only people who should use the word trope are people in high literary circles, not autistic nerds who watch Joss Whedon

>Genre Savvy
>Wrong Genre Savvy
Fuck these two in particular
It's not clever, cute, or funny, to have your characters aware they're fictional in a fictional story. It's just a way to make you not give a shit about anything you wrote

>>151161155
When you describe storytelling as a mechanical or math formula that's just missing the point of creativity. It's almost like using AI to make a story.

>>151161645
Honestly, I felt that way since the very start of TV-Tropes

>>151160765
That's my point. Page is gone for some time, there is reason why listed in that link

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/CrappyTropeDefinitions
Here you can learn how to be like average troper

>>151161645
Execution is king, but a commonality is going to keep existing whether you notice it or not, and recognizing them is useful if you're going to take future action.

>>151163143
I remember one of the wiki forks talks about that page.

>>151163716
I would add that author's life experience and personality also factors in how the story turns outs.

>>151151395 (OP)
This technically belongs to /a/ but I think TV Tropes is a good example of the database consumption of modern media that Azuma uses to explain the otaku culture (of that time). I think that on many ways modern /co/ fandom has suffered the same process and that's why both fandoms are very similar.

>>151151395 (OP)
>More autistic than 4chan’s cartoon autist board

>>151164092
The difference between /co/ and tvtropes is that on /co/ you can just say and do whatever you want as long as you don't post CP or ponies. So the autism burns out naturally. On Tvt, they're so heavily moderated and censored by the mods and jannies that they have to walk on eggshells to get anything done. And the weirdos never take the hint that no one wants them around because you can't simply call them faggots and go on about your day.

EXPAND THE UNSETTLING GENDER REVEAL PAGES SO I HAVE MORE STUFF TO JERK OFF TO

>>151152000
Drives me up the fucking wall when I see 800 "averted" examples on a page. At least with "subverted" examples there's the excuse of "the work sets up (X) but doesn't do it or does it differently last second" but 99% of the time it's "this thing never remotely occured nor did it indicate it would happen". Or they mix up the two

>>151152762
Someone figured out who did it, it was some literal turbosperg who was JUST self aware enough he had an embarassing interest in toddler shows and made the page to make it seem less sad

>>151152531
>This troper has PTSD. Imagine the worst thing that's ever happened to you...repeating itself over and over inside your head. Now imagine that said 'worst thing' was your drug addicted, abusive, and delusional boyfriend allowing his dealers to gang rape you. Because they needed 'payment' mind you- that's right, he sold me to get a hit. Now imagine that you also have borderline personality disorder, and have to look at your scars to remind you that the past is real (Papa Roach reference not intentional), and that your life has been such a Trauma Conga Line since you were 12, when your mother died, and since then you fell into alcholism, drug abuse and depression, to the point where you wouldn't know who you were if you weren't suffering. Imagine you only went out with said abusive etc ex on the rebound, because the girl you truly loved DIED of a heroin overdose. This is not a Drugs Are Bad message. It is this troper's life.
Even stuff like this seems more commonplace (but with less text)

>>151163716
>Execution is king, but a commonality is going to keep existing whether you notice it or not, and recognizing them is useful if you're going to take future action.

Not really, since things are neither good nor bad just for being frequently used. That information is in fact totally worthless to begin with, it doesn't matter which things happen often in unrelated pieces of media. The site itself says as much somewhere, "tropes" are not something you're supposed to avoid and they're not a negative or positive thing. They just are.

I find it hilarious how they removed snoot game because "muh transphobia bad!", but still keep this masterpiece up
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheAssGoblinsOfAuschwitz

>>151165038
Say that to 80% of this site when a woman is in a lead role. That's recognizing a trope and rejecting it.

>>151165079
A lot of the more insane changes made to the site are pretty blatantly only done because the trannies are running the show now. Like how every mention of JK Rowling has to remark on her "horrible comments"

>Five-Man Band
>Four actually, but...
For people obsessed with categorizing everything into ridiculously specific tropes they're surprisingly bad at following their own rules

>>151154110
That character actually has the same voice as blue fast pony

>>151165460
The funniest thing ever is going to the Five Man Band page and counting out how many actual examples there are that aren't subversions or "well not 5 but..."

>>151165460
Yeah, I've people use tropes like, "Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold" or "Trans Audience Interpretation". I think that's just a bit too much.

>>151164962
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>151151395 (OP)
>>151151817
>>151158688
I don't know if it's worst where every aspect of a work has to be one of the site's tropes, or when they take the definition of the trope really surface-level so it applies to anyhing

>>151165079
They removed snoot game because it is to controversial. I'm defending this action but they are not fully against makes of it.
I Wani Hug that Gator and Cavemanon still have pages