Thread 151154996

Mmm, hello dere. Y'all should know me by now, but if ya don't: I am Ken Williams Penders, THE original creator of Julie-Chu, Lara-Chu and other fantastic original Sonic OCs, and OWNER of all said characters, and THE original creadur of "25 Years Later" and "The Lara-Chu Chronicles." 13 years in the making. All other dates are invalid.

I ahm here to tell you that despite the massive critical and finan-chu success of muh long-awaited masterpiece now available for purchase on my web domain, many DAMN, SLANDEROUS TROLLS, DETRACTORS AND HAYDURS still c-continue to spread malicious gossip and defamation about me.

I want to make it clears to all you TROLLS, including THAT DAMN YELLOW-SHIRTED IMPOSTER IAN FLYNN, that I did NOT kill Archie comics, I did NOT ruin the comic and hurt the people involved, and it is NOT MY FAULT that none of the characters people have loved for decades have completely disappeared from the comic, as well as my original OCs.

SEGA are the damn dirty trolls responsibul for this heinous outcome. All they would have to do is pay ME a measly TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for each n every one of muh original creations for use in dere comic serieses. The fact they CONTINUE to SLANDER, LIE AND OPPRESS ME and make me a PARIAH is THE FAULT OF SEGA'S EVIL CORPORATE SCHEMES. I AM INNOCENT! I AM DA VICTIM!

To the true, loyal and honest Lara-Su fans out dere, I wish you all well. Curse da detractors, peace to everyone else. Y'all have a good day.

Ian Flynn is more of a lolcow now than Ken Penders.

>>151155016
Dream on, Ken.

>>151155040
Ian had a Chris Chan moment where Sega was the Bob Chandler telling him to shut that god damn podcast down.

>>151154996 (OP)
kyle carrozza lookin ass mf

>>151155059
Ian's got a lot of problems, but comparing him to Ken is silly. Ken is 1000x worse. The fact that Flynn actually got to write for Sonic games while Sega kept Ken in his own little corner should tell you all you need to know.

>>151155255
Ian does not write the Sonic games. Sega is still the one who writes the scenarios and overall story. At best he comes up with dialogue for the story, but even then Sega ignores him if he tries to sneak his headcanon in. The only reason they put his name on the game is that Xitter still likes him and he works for pennies.

>>151154996 (OP)
Isn't this guy a somewhat more successful Chris Chan?

>>151156059
yeah, basically.

>>151155370
>Ian doesn't write for the Sonic games, except the parts where he actually wrote for the Sonic games.
Ok.

>>151156059
I'd argue less successful. Arguably, he and his works are more well known and I bet if he calculated their incomes, Chris has actually made more money.

>>151156357
Nah, Chris-chan is definitely more well known. No one outside Sonic nerds knows or cares who Penders is, but every internet nerd knows Chris-chan.

>>151156357
Yeah one of the big problems Penders faces is that his entire gambit was an attempt to get money from Sega and Archie for his past work, he overestimated his importance to the brand and legit thought that threatening to make his own comic with his characters would make them panic and agree to pay him royalties. He won his rights case but now the only way to make money off his creations is to make new comics with them which is exactly what he was trying to avoid and that's why he's spend over a decade dragging his feet on actually doing any of this. Even the book he put out last year is mostly reprints.

>>151156423
being more well known doesnt always mean more successful.
unless ken is living on government bennies and in a semi/care home

>>151156442
You can tell he didn't want to make his own comic because when you read his new material, it's literally fucking nothing. Just exposition and characters standing around. Not even worldbuilding or moving the story forward, just the bare-bones exposition needed to tell you the setting exists and why, and then hardly any story setups or conflicts.

>>151156442
>he overestimated his importance to the brand and legit thought that threatening to make his own comic with his characters would make them panic and agree to pay him royalties
For me, it’s funny how it’s very well known that Ken truly and unironically believes he put Sonic, or at the very least, Knuckles, on the map, and that every single Knuckles fan out there is therefore a fan of his.
Even if some people did get to know Knuckles through his comic, that’s mostly limited to the United States.

I’m a Knuckles fan, but I’m not from the US of A. I’ve known Knuckles since Sonic 3, and I loved him in the Adventure series. When I finally managed to read the Archie comics (thanks to good ol’ TailsKicksAss), I absolutely hated the Archie version of the character.

>>151156444
>unless ken is living on government bennies and in a semi/care home
Ken lives on lawyer's wife support

>>151156775
eh?
his lawyers wife?
or his wife is a lawyer?

>>151156444
>unless ken is living on government bennies and in a semi/care home
Ken lives on lawyer wife's support

>>151156778
My bad: >>151156779

>>151156698
He straight up believes that the Sonic comic is the reason Sonic as a whole is popular

>>151156698
>I absolutely hated the Archie version of the character.
For some weird reason Archie gave him free reign of Knuckles and his mythos. There was a lot of stuff he wanted to do with Sonic that they said no to, but when he'd try to do the exact same things with Knuckles they'd let him. This is why so much of that corner of Archie feels like a weird sci-fi dynastic soap opera that happens to feature Knuckles instead of feeling like an actual comic about Knuckles.

>>151154996 (OP)
Looks like there's some incest going on in the Penders-verse.

>>151157026
Apparently Sega (of America), or at the very least Archie, were only really worried about the portrayal of Sonic himself, and didn’t care much about how the supporting characters were written.
That’s how Penders realized he could use Knuckles as a meat suit for the protagonist of the story he just couldn’t sell as an original comic. So instead, he wrapped it up in a bunch of Echidna OCs and released it as a Knuckles story.

>>151157071
So many Knuckles-es

>>151157026
>>151157071
It’s funny, because a few years before the whole Pendering and copyright fiasco, Penders was actually pretty dismissive of his time on Sonic. Sure, he’d still brag about being “the man who made Sonic popular in the West”, but I remember seeing some old tweets (or maybe they were forum posts) where he said the Archie Sonic stuff was just work, and that he was saving his real ideas for his original projects.

Then the Pendering happened, and suddenly his old Sonic work had to be treated like it was some kind of sacred text. My only guess is that he finally realized nobody gives two shits about his “original” work outside of what he did with Sonic... and maybe a few Star Trek comics, if we’re being generous.

>>151157079
All those Echyd'nyas

>>151157139
God Penders' style really is offensive to they eye because it embodies the look of the worst fetish art to ever come out of the peak tumblr art era.

>>151157127
He was trying to get a movie made, it's as incompetent as you would expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXrNCxY7-E

Also I get that Sean Young's career hasn't been great for a very long time but even this seems like it should be beneath her

>>151157160
Excuse me, it's artistic

>>151157034
Knuckles fucked his distant cousin?

>>151157208
No. Edmund and Dimitri make 2 children together. Both are distant descendants of Lara-Su.

And Emund and Dimitri are both colored blue so they are both males, so I don't know how that works.

>>151157160
His style wasn't that bad in the beginning, sure he was just aping other artists who worked on the comic but at least it looked like Sonic

Over time he just somehow got it into his head that "more detail = better drawing" regardless of the subject. He never understood that there was a reason other Sonic artists didn't do this. Over time his art just turned into that one render of Mario if he were real.

>>151157236
why does everyone he draw make this face

>>151157160
The worst part is that, deep down, you know he could’ve just rebranded the whole thing into an original sci-fi story with humans or whatever kind of aliens he wanted, making it 100% “original”. (I use that term cautiously, since it’s well-known Penders stole A LOT of the better ideas he used in the stories he wrote at Archie)

Instead, he purposefully creates these horrible creatures that might be legally distinct, but are still so obviously based on Sonic-series echidnas that you can’t help but wonder if the obsession has devolved into a fetish.

>>151157173
>>151157236
>>151157283
Honestly whenever I have seen any stuff like scat/guro/vore drawn by westerners it's always in his style somehow. Maybe it's just the way that type of gooner phenotype draws, but I can't be the only one who has noticed it either.

>>151157236
Fuck, I remember feeding that last pic into an AI animator years ago. The result wasn't as funny as I hopped, maybe it's time to try it again.

>>151157271
He uses his own mouth as a reference.

>>151154996 (OP)
Ken, are you going to sue GOD the Almighty for infringing on your copyright for echidnas?

>>151157467
Why'd it make him Asain? Lmao

>>151157467
KENJI PENDASU

>>151157498
This one is real con footage. My fucking sides anon, holy shit. Don't stop. This is the proper use for AI.

The sheer magnitude of the autism that surrounds Sonic The Hedgehog as a property sometimes leaves me in awe. I think at this point even SEGA is spooked by it, and that's why they don't do as much with Sonic as they used to.

thread suddenly turned to gold

>>151157236
Man, I never noticed how heinous Sonic's nose shadow is in version 3. That is foul.

You know what?

The more I look at Ken Penders the more I realize he looks like he could be related to Kyle Carrozza.

>>151157498
I was hoping the Lara cut-out in the background was going to dance or something too.

>>151157777
>Ken Penders when he was told his Archie Echidna lore was not going to be used in Sonic Adventure 1

>>151154996 (OP)
I’ll never understand how he looks like more of a pedo without the mustache

>>151157463
Look at his little backwards feet

>>151157791
that is slightly terrifying, im not even sure how to explain it.

>>151157890
i was wondering why it was thundering and lightening last night

>>151157804
>Ken goes to the Sega office to threaten them over Sonic Chronicles

>>151157890
Now this is the Deathly Battle we've all been hoping for

>>151157791
Imagine kidnapping a bunch of these guys in costume and setting them loose on an island, and then hunting them through the jungle with a rifle. The most dangerous game.

>>151157850
Oh Magic AI Anon, can you turn Ken into an Echidna?

>>151157861
Maybe because we know body suits actors actually can make such thing if they feel like it?

>>151157890
Very soon we will be reminiscing about AI videos being Dada-esque interpretations of what they’re supposed to be, rather than being indistinguishable from the real thing. Also I love how in every generated video of two people ‘fighting’ it always looks like a cartoon slap fight.

>>151157751
This one is legitimately the most believable looking video, even if most cons wouldn’t allow a girl to wear nothing but lingerie I could totally see Ken awkwardly dancing next to some sexy cosplayer.

>>151158446
>Knuckle (singular)
The first couple of seconds as his face dissolves before the transformation looks fucking Lynchian.

Captcha: N0P00

don't care about Sonic or lolcow followings but this guy is an interesting example of an individual "creator" getting one over a corporation. So it's a valuable example, even if it's tainted by autism

>>151158535
It isn't really a good example of that because it benefited absolutely no one and made things worse for the fans and other independent creators. It also didn't set any precedent because Penders just lucked out when Sega lost their contract with him. Now that everything is backed up digitally, that's fair less likely to happen.

>>151158551
oh god we just saw a Penders wet dream.

Can you get him to fight Segata Sanshiro?

>>151157271
>>151157455
I literally just realized it's his own face.
He likely uses himself as a reference to make these god awful faces.

>>151154996 (OP)
>has a mustache that makes him look like a creepy pedo
>shaves it off
>looks even more like a creepy pedo without the creepy pedo mustache
Can someone explain how exactly this is possible?

>>151158499
>CURSE YE-HA-ME-HA!

>>151158992
For the pedostache to be originally described as such, there first had to be a person just giving off such strong pedo vibes that anything in his vicinity becomes a visual emanation of them. Ken is just such a guy.

>>151155016
Ian's book comes out Monday.
Looks good imo.

>>151157071
Even Sonic is way off in Archie, all the way up to when it ended in the 10s. Their version is extremely self conscious and moody.

>>151155218
I was litterally gonna say the same thing

>>151158527
>That MariASS
No wonder Shadow fell in love with this pawg

>>151160918
>Sonic Chronicles lawsuit in a nutshell

>>151161028
The fact Ken seems to be behind a greenscreen only makes it better.
Best gen of the thread (so far), AiAnon!

>>151160151
If you shop mutton chops and long hair on Ken, it works.

>>151157071
This is Netflix with anime.

>>151157474
Because he's Polish so that means he's slavic and has higher AEE (ancient east eurasian) than angloids

Ken Bumpers

>>151157127
>My only guess is that he finally realized nobody gives two shits about his “original” work outside of what he did with Sonic... and maybe a few Star Trek comics, if we’re being generous.
And the entire lawsuit debacle just made it worse. As it was he was struggling to find work as a writer and/or artist, so on top of not getting the royalty checks he wanted, he basically burned every bridge and made himself unhireable. He really has no choice but to make Lara-Su stories.

I think by now he's too proud to admit that this all backfired on him and he still pretends there's some huge fanbase for his stuff that's just aching for more stories, but I think the absolute lack of passion and how badly he drags his feet on this shit shows that even he stopped believing his own hype.

>>151156357
>>Ian doesn't write for the Sonic games, except the parts where he actually wrote for the Sonic games.

Not all of them.

>>151157034
>14th cousins or some shit

that's not incest

>>151157271
It's the Penderjak.

>>151163635
Thank you.

>>151158527
>>151160729
Shadow seeing Maria drawn like this: I hate humanity so much, I will give my soul to Black Doom to destroy them.

>>151157163

>Floating island productions

I beg your fucking pardon?

>>151167464
Yes, Penders is so creatively bankrupt, so dependant of his history with Sonic to have any semblance of a "legacy", he uses Angel Island's original localized name "Floating Island" for the name of his production house.
A name he had absolutely nothing to do with, but feels entitled to it because of his "long" history with Knuckles.

The man is nothing, but a creativity parasite.

>>151154996 (OP)
He looks just like Hans-Kristian if he had the skin color he's jealous of.

>>151154996 (OP)
I mean this is in the nicest way possible. He looks like a IRL Quasimodo before he heads down to hair and wardrobe

>>151154996 (OP)
>Julie-Chu
>Lara-Chu
Someone should tell him that trying to ape "Pikachu" isn't going to work. It pings a person's radar a little too hard when you're not creative enough to mask your influences. Or at the very least not have your potential audience make the jump between your material and something else that's really popular and similar sounding right off the bat

>>151156442
>Only way to make money off his creations is to make new comics with them
Isn't this the dream of every single creative? He essentially won a get out of jail free cause to start over with fiction without the alternative being that he would have had to cut a check to SEGA before he could reap any benefits from what he comes up with.
>Even the book he put out last year is mostly reprints
I think he may have come to a point where his mentality just isn't where it was to keep this story going like it was in his youth. Either his passion has simply cooled or he's been chipped away at enough to realize that his OC and imagination is nothing without having a universe as a sandbox he can play around in. Why drag your feet otherwise? Or just throw in the towel and put in an application at the airport or at an Amazon and make an honest living.

>>151170467
As the other anon pointed out, Penders wasn’t really after just ownership or creative freedom, he was more interested in holding the Archie cast and lore he wrote hostage so that either Archie or Sega would be forced to hire him as an editor, creative consultant, writer, etc., or at the very least, cut him a fat check on a monthly basis. At least, that’s the most widely accepted interpretation of what he and his wife (whom many think is the real mastermind behind all of this) were ultimately aiming for.
On paper, it made sense. As crazy and far-removed from Sonic as it was, his Echidna lore and other ideas were deeply ingrained in the Archie Sonic world. Even Flynn and his contemporaries loved to play with them. So it was a safe bet to assume that neither Archie nor Sega would just throw away years of worldbuilding and character development... but they did. And Penders got stuck with a bunch of no-name OCs no one gave two shits about, and that he still can’t do anything with unless he redesigns them to look nothing like Sonic characters.

But then he realized the only reason anyone even cared about the story he wrote was because it was a Sonic story. So, instead, he made those monstrosities and tried to connect them with the Archie lore to create a sort of "requel" to his time on the comics. All those talks about fighting for creative rights or wanting to be free from the shackles of working under a publisher are just copes he made up after the master plan failed.

TL;DR: Penders tried to hold Archie’s Sonic lore hostage to force a paycheck or job, but when that failed, he was stuck with worthless OCs and a cope about "creator's rights".

>>151170257
Hey retard. OP's post is a Sonichu parody.

>>151170467
>I think he may have come to a point where his mentality just isn't where it was to keep this story going like it was in his youth. Either his passion has simply cooled or he's been chipped away at enough to realize that his OC and imagination is nothing without having a universe as a sandbox he can play around in. Why drag your feet otherwise? Or just throw in the towel and put in an application at the airport or at an Amazon and make an honest living.
Because he literally didn't want to do this. It was all a bluff to try to force royalty payments from Sega and Archie.

>>151166248
lmao the way it turns into one of those skate/team tag arenas

Reminder that according to Penders Sally lost her virginity to Geoffrey St John

Also Rotor is gay

I like how Ken still shittalks Archie but is very reverential towards Sega because he still holds out hope that they'll work with him and let him use their IP (such as being able to call Knuckles by that name)
He genuinely does not understand how badly he burned that bridge

>>151172297
The fact that he honestly believes he's entitled to Knuckles (an idea often humored by the few toadies he has) is so ludicrous, it’s hilarious. Even more so, considering anything he might have added to the character went straight down the drain the moment the Archie Reboot happened, and any remnants were completely erased when IDW took over.

Are there any other /co/ authors who have claimed similar things? Ideally, someone whose ideas have actually impacted the character, for better or worse, over the years? For example, Frank Miller with Batman? Had he made a claim like that?

>>151172424
>For example, Frank Miller with Batman?
I don't think Miller has ever made a claim like that but he'd definitely have more room to make it than Ken. Ken's situation is more like if a writer for the second season of The Batman insisted that the show is the reason Batman is popular and that he is the sole authority on the Joker.

I'm not convinced Ken Penders is weird. Sonic fans are weird.
I think Ken Penders might just be a middling comic book creator who wrote a throwaway serialized comic book identical to the 10,000 other 50+ year-running throwaway serialized comic books nobody here has ever read, that was completely unremarkable in every way except for starring Sonic the Hedgehog, a character he didn't particularly care about.
Then he wins a lawsuit against his publisher, which effectively gets him blacklisted from the industry, and so his realest option to continue working in his 30+ year career field is to cater to/poke at the interests of dedicated Sonic autists.
So now people make image compilations and 3 hour podcasts about how weird he is for being a kind of bad artist, writing a serialized comic book that isn't particularly weirder than the serialized stuff in boy scout magazine, family trees/connect-the-dots/childrens maze magazine inserts, and him grifting on his inexplicable notoriety and lawsuit winnings so that he doesn't have to go start a drywall installation business to buy groceries.
I think he might just be a normal ass dude being stared at by (and therefore associated with) medically abnormal dudes that are a bit too into Sonic.

>>151172816
>Then he wins a lawsuit against his publisher, which effectively gets him blacklisted from the industry, and so his realest option to continue working in his 30+ year career field is to cater to/poke at the interests of dedicated Sonic autists.
You've got it backwards. The idea came up because he threatened to do this unless Archie paid him royalties. He didn't sue Archie, Archie sued him. He won the case but didn't get what he actually wanted.

Also he's put out exactly one comic since then and it was mostly reprints.

>>151157558
Its such a massive shame. The Archie Sonic run is legendary even with all the Penders, and other writers' autism. Modern Sonic is so sanitized and corporate that the range of stories one can tell with the character is very small.

>>151172424
Chris Claremont with X-Men

>>151156442
Most of his problem stems from the fact that he cant even use the stuff he gained rights to without completely redesigning them, which is probably why his new style looks like garbage.

>>151170715
>t was a safe bet to assume that neither Archie nor Sega would just throw away years of worldbuilding and character development... but they did
Penders' vastly understimated Japanese corporate autism. There was no way Sega was going to let some no name american random own any of its IP. It was pretty obvious that they would go scorched earth with anything tainted by the dispute. Especially when all of it never appeared in a mainline game so it was barely canon at all.

>>151156508
>Not even worldbuilding or moving the story forward, just the bare-bones exposition needed to tell you the setting exists and why, and then hardly any story setups or conflicts.
This is how you know the man is tapped out of creative juices. He probably doesn't have enough intake from the world to be able to replicate/ape something more popular so his OC's simply devolve into streams of consciousness and thoughts. He's essentially roleplaying with himself so he his point and it's sad that he doesn't have the werewithal to realize that without a plot all he's doing is the equivalent of a visual personal journal entry. We're all guilty of it when we pull up our little drafts and start typing away. He must not have an editor or anyone really in his corner for quality control if that's the case. Like, someone should tell him he can save himself a lot of trouble by just picking up some co-writers or an artist from Fiver to help mitigate the workload to make things easier. Or just admit that his OC's are nothing with the sandbox of Sega rather than have work with his name on it just out there existing with subpar quality that people can always associate/mock him with

>>151172816
>I'm not convinced Ken Penders is weird. Sonic fans are weird.
Both are weird, truly. Penders is seriously deluded in his perceived self-importance to the Sonic fandom, and honestly thinks Sega owes him for Sonic's popularity in the West.

I've seen others say it before, but many are sure the Sonic fandom would have immediately sided with any other author who tried to sue Sega.
It is Penders' particular case, in part due to the way he did stuff, the way he defends his actions, and his overall attitude that actually managed to get almost the whole fandom to back the evil company rather than the small creator. In a weird way, it is a feat in its own.

>>151157139
>Lara-Su K'Nox
The naming conventions aren't my favorite but what really urks me is how he's in the creative phase of feeling as if adding random apostrophe's in the middle of words is enough to make it sound "unique" and "cool". Bro it's just Echidna. You've barely done the work to make it your own. And the name looks as silly as the character.
>Echyd'nya
Really it just insists upon itself
I reject this premise.
I dislike much about this.

>>151173152
It's kind of sad to see just how emotionally dependent he is on the Archie Sonic and Knuckles stuff he worked on.
He could have easily come up with a completely new alien race name and brand new names for the Sega characters, but instead, there he is, clinging to something he will never truly own.

>>151157139
I know he draws attention to it because he loves the female form but man she's got the little skirt. Doesn't need a side slit so we can see her hips. She's showing enough leg as it is. You gotta leave SOME kind of room for the imagination.
>Janelle-Li
OK like I get how he can reason that Amy is a pretty mild name for a fictional character in this franchise but the fact that he continues to use these human names for the characters is a turn off for me. It screams "I know or knew a girl named this IRL and this is my tribute to her" and it's the kind of thing that feels like it needed a few more degrees of separation from it's source material/inspiration in order to really stand on its own merit.
>Floren-Ca
His naming conventions are SO LAZY that it gets under my skin. But hey it works for him I guess. That's what's important.
>Random Japanese under the character
After a while it feels like if your high school magnum opus didn't make it yet then it's not going to. Dragging all that junk with you as an adult into the future when it isn't making you any money and just sitting around in your head rent free or enough to make a man consider just cutting himself loose. I mean just look at all that nonsense he wrote that no one but him and God will ever give a care about.
>The Dark Legion
>Rebel Underground
>The Brotherhood of the Guardians
It's aimed at a young audience so I won't put my nose up at something not designed for me but wew lad this stinks

>>151173207
I think he wishes he could just make his own completely original thing but he's had zero luck doing that and he knows the Sonic stuff is the only thing he's ever done that anyone is remotely interested in

He reminds me of those actors who are famous for one sci-fi show they did 30 years ago that tried to distance themselves from it and move on but their career went nowhere so they just resign themselves to making money on the convention circuit signing pictures of themselves in alien makeup

>>151155016
Penders, get off 4chan. Don't you have that lawsuit against Paramount of "I invented the idea of Knuckles having a father, gimme money" to get back to?

>>151173791
>the Penders OC on the poster blinking
>the much better looking MILF character created by the AI as it zooms out
kek

>>151172816
>I'm not convinced Ken Penders is weird.
He tried to spin doing a foot fetish commission into a message of how based Hillary Clinton is and would spend dozens of hours back in the day debating children and autists.

He's a little weird.

>>151174812
He also has a very punchable face. Also, didnt he use like that Nazi poem fo his echidna shit?

>>151174883
It's not as big a deal as people make it out to be, but yes, Sonic is a stupid place to do a Niemoller parody, especially if you attribute it to "Anonymous" instead of leaning in for a goofy pun or just playing it straight. He did the same with Hitler and Robotnik in the same arc.

Ken's real problem has always been that he's a shithead who acts in bad faith and isn't kind to others. He fought relentlessly with Karl Bollers instead of just working with him like a normal person (Jon Gray seems to think Ken's racist and I gotta be real, he's probably right, Ken comes off like a huge shitlib). He constantly aggrandized himself and quit his job when someone else who was more cooperative got the lead writer position. He spent YEARS talking mad shit about Ian and accusing him of stuff like plagiarism, despite Ken being way more popular than Ian until like, 2009 or so. He was hostile to everyone but his former co writers during all the legal drama and never once actually stood up for the rights of any of the artists or other writers despite taking his actions for "creators rights" reasons. He sued over superficial similarities in a budget video game instead of capitalizing on that link for good will and connections. He spent years trolling kids and autism and laying claim to even the most nebulous concepts.

>>151175841
If Ken just had the decency of people like Karl, Ian, Evan, etc, he'd probably be looked back on fondly as the goofy old guy who just threw together whatever ideas he had and strongly advocated for Sega of America to take their material more seriously.

If he just publicly said "Listen guys, I'm sorry, but the pay is pretty bad and the new direction by Sega just isn't fun for me. I wish the new crew the best of luck and I'll keep in touch." he would be spoken of positively by the new blood and still have relevance in the fan community. He could have gotten a massive visibility boost off Dark Brotherhood and, *honestly*, Ken being a positive figure in the fandom could have led to higher cult-sales on the title and a push for another attempt at "The Sonic RPG" with a proper budget and some input from Ken. He also probably would have been able to get in on the Sonic movie! His ideas are very similar to what Hollywood execs like, he *has* Cali connections, and people like Tyson would definitely give him a shot at helping smooth over the movies if he was in a good spot.

Ken's problems are entirely his own doing.

>>151173225
Bro's stuck in early 80s Spielbergalikes land.

>>151174091
The hand holding the hoop is also unattached to anything.
That poster blink was like a jumpscare.

>>151175849
It’s funny, even ironic, that Penders could have claimed a huge victory over his self-appointed archenemy, Ian Flynn, simply by acknowledging Sonic Chronicles as a game inspired by his work (which is true; nobody’s denying that). He could have just been happy that his ideas made it into a game before Flynn’s and left it at that.

Instead, he decided to sue because he’s a petty little shit, even though the game was released before he started his long con over rights (there’s a reason the lawsuit was dismissed... twice!).
All of it happened because he deluded himself into thinking the reason Bioware wanted to talk to him at a convention (even though, according to his own account, he wasn’t even at the booth when it happened and Bioware supposedly spoke with his family instead) was to ask him to become the lead writer of Sonic Chronicles, not just to thank him for the inspiration or acknowledge his influence.
Ok, I’ll admit that last part is me overthinking the thing, but in my defense, why else would he keep bringing up how much the Bioware guys “wanted to talk to him at a con” whenever he speaks of the Chronicles matter?

Dude also kept shoving a lot of his personal baggage into the story. He admittedly didn't have a good relationship with him but made amends with him before he died. That was decades before he ever wrote for Archie, but it was something that clearly stuck with him, and that's fine, that sort of thing stays with you for life. But then you see how he writes Locke and King Acorn as remorseless assholes whose actions are excused because their intentions were noble. They're completely unsympathetic but he expects the audience to side with them anyway because despite how manipulative, deceitful and belligerent they are, he thinks it's okay because they're doing it for the greater good. Anyone who goes against them, even if they're victims of their abuse, is depicted as being in the wrong. It's incredibly weird to think that this is how Ken viewed his father and how he likely still privately justifies his father's abusive treatment.

>>151157541
>He’s the one, alright.

>>151176776
The man just has a gigantic ego. He is a mediocre writer and artist who lucked out by being given the full creative reins of a popular IP in its infancy to make whatever he wanted and thus an assured audience. Then, the guy confused the IP's strength for his own creativity and to this day thinks that he had a big part on the popularity of the Sonic IP. If the guy had just accepted he was one cog in the Sega machine, accepted the ideas of better creatives, and not stirred up drama or tried to claim the characters, he probably would not only be fondly remembered today but also would have gone on to work on other Sonic projects. The man sacrificed his own career for a bunch of irrelevant characters people only cared about because they were part of Sonic.

>>151179371
I'll say he was more of a terrible writer than mediocre, specially in moments when he'd climb up his own ahole and think he was writing some deep ass shit.

>>151179508
Tbh, I found the whole echidna lore kinda compelling when it didnt revolve around Knuckles or Locke and was more about the dangers of technocratic supremacism. Although, I did enjoy the Ian spin on it much more than anything Penders ever did.

>>151179610
Ian did a good editor job, despite everything

>>151158499
>>151154996 (OP)
>>151157625
How do you save a face like this? Haircut? Beard? Fix his teeth or some eye surgery? He looks so hopeles.s

>>151163201
>He's chained and rendered helpless as a small Knuckles "OC" knockoff abuses Ken forever
Sad fate. I wouldn't gen this on my worse enemy. Being literally tortured by headcanon that only he cares about. Dang that's cruel

>>151183493
That's pretty much what happened to Julie-Su, Lien-Da and all echidna supporting cast, as Ken considers anything post-him to be not canon.

>>151184105
Can you make something hit his face and turn him handsome?
Like pic related.

>>151177196
one of the funniest things in the comic was knuckles reuniting with locke
it's a completely random encounter, he just spots locke on the street, locke realizes he's been spotted and fucking runs for it but he can't lose him so he just kind of gives up and it's treated like this heartwarming moment

Speaking of Locke, did Ken ever justify why he thought it was important for the guardians to all still be alive? As it is they all follow this same bizarre cycle
>dad fakes his death
>son believes he is alone and last of his kind completely unaware that there's an entire civilization that's just dimensionally shifted so he can't see them
>dad lives in a bunker and spies on his son 24/7 and secretly micromanages his life
>son eventually finds out the truth and joins dad in the bunker
>repeat the cycle until like 20 generations of douchebag dads are all living in the bunker micromanaging the life of the current son
Like what is the purpose of this, why does the guardian need to be tricked into thinking he's literally alone while all of his grandpas quietly watch him masturbate

>>151182069
Only a beard can save that face, it won't make him pretty, but at least he would look like Steve Wozniak retarded brother and not Pedo McPedo

I always had a good laugh at him writing the so called future arcs. Not only was this shit boring, but holy hell was it sexist as fuck.

>>151172816
Genre fans are the same way.

>>151154996 (OP)
The man who MOGGED and DESTROYED Sega of Japan.

>>151155016
And SEGA is more of a lolcow than either.

>>151186681
>girls having girl talk is sexist
whut

>>151186813
The rest of the comic kinda is, since basically boils down Sal an Julie to stay at home housewives while Sonic and Knuckles solve all the shit.

>>151186806
Imagine sucking off this pedostash looking retard.

>>151186813
Girls having girl talk is not sexist.
A smart brave rebellion leader and a bad-ass former bad girl now turned stay home housewives having girl talk... kind of is.

And I said that as someone who likes when tomboys become cute wifeys.

>>151186828
>>151186861
Honestly, SEGA of Japan would've approved

>>151185132
It was supposed to be a process by which their anteater mentors would shape them into big-brain superheroes who could handle the massive responsibility of being a Guardian. So much stronger and smarter and more morally untouchable than normal people that to even question their decisions would be ridiculous.

Like Plato's philosopher king, it's an attempt to rationalize how the power fantasy of being an unchecked dominant force could remain an enlightened moral force as well. You would have to be completely without flaw, mentally, physically, spiritually. As far above other men as men are above beasts.

There's some interesting comparisons between this mimetic reconstruction of the idealized Guardian archetype and the cybernetics of the Dark Brotherhood. Both are transhuman in their way, rejecting the 'noise' of human experience, but focused on opposite attributes: the mind vs the body. Very Kojima-esque. Though I expect Mr. Penders only scratched the surface of this comparison, likely to the degree required to notice they're both harshly authoritarian and someone hypocritical in their politics.

tl;dr it's a groomer thing, Locke microwaving the baby is just the tip of the iceberg

>>151186861
Really, it's that these two have nothing to do with each other. It would be expected if this were Sally and Bunnie.

>>151160729
I saved this to my /v/ folder. Ten months from now I'll find it in that folder and have no memory of why it's there.

>>151186915
Lets be real, only reason its Julie is cause Ken needs to be shoving his waifu everywhere.

>>151185132
Ken's dad clearly left him as a kid, and he's simultaneously trying to show the bad side of authority figures while going "ok but they were right to do it in the end" because that was his takeaway.

He's self aware enough that he wrote Knuckles' grandma being the victim of emotional abuse and clearly meant it to be a bad thing, and he wanted to give kids a sort of "accept your stepdad" plot they could relate to, but his own daddy issues are so ingrained he couldn't commit to writing Knuckles rejecting or tearing down Locke.

>>151186892
They did: the comic came out, didn't it?
That said, Sonic Team used to be very against the grain with their girls, especially when these issues came out.

>>151186813
Neither character is acting like themselves. They've morphed into completely different women in order to fulfill their tradwife role in the story. Same with Lien-Da, who's treated like a snobby domestic brat rather than a former terrorist/family wrecker.

>>151187725
I mean, not really? They didn't even know what kind of crazy ass BS was going down with the comics at the time.

>>151187747
I mean you're right, they didn't give a shit, but technically they signed off on it!

But yeah, in the early 00s Amy was positioned as an opposite of the typical damsel (despite getting kidnapped in SA1 and 2), Rouge was really outgoing, and Blaze was Blaze. Very much not the series you'd associate with women written this way.

Also the black mammy Koala was. Something.

>>151187756
>Also the black mammy Koala was. Something.
So, we can pencil racism into his resume.

>But yeah, in the early 00s Amy was positioned as an opposite of the typical damsel (despite getting kidnapped in SA1 and 2), Rouge was really outgoing, and Blaze was Blaze. Very much not the series you'd associate with women written this way.

Really does tell that Ken hates more proactive female characters (explains his desire to merk Sally), so you can imagine he was giddy when he wrote the future arcs.

>>151187779
Not to whine too much about it, but I really hate how dirty the female cast has been done in this series. Amy's been sanded down to nothing, Rouge only really gets flirting and "oooh jewels" outside of being Shadow's on-call therapist, etc. Blaze gets to be the outlier because she's quiet and reserved and doesn't have any of those pesky, noisy, rabble rousing qualities.

It sucks, man.

>>151154996 (OP)
Who's this

>>151186899
The concept itself is really compelling, the issue is that it's an after the fact retelling. Penders never intended for Locke and the rest of the enlightened echidnas to be a cautionary tale about technology and having blind faith in science, he wanted them to be super cool somewhat individualist edgy heroes who oppose the obviously villainous collectivist Dimitri. It was Ian who portrayed Locke in a less than favorable light and had Knuckles resent him for what he did and finally killed him off, a move that Penders absolutely despised.

>>151154996 (OP)
I think Knuckle's incest baby was really cute looking.
But only when she isn't drawn by Pender's himself.

>>151179610
The Dark Legion were hilarious losers to be fair.

>>151188598
Dimitri wasn’t really that evil though. Despite comparing them to Nazis multiple times the Dark Legion are mostly just misguided in Penders’s run and Knuckles wants to reintegrate them into Echidna society when he goes green.