Thread 151157212

What are your honest thoughts on this movie 20 years later?

Never saw it.

>>151157212 (OP)
s'okay

>>151157212 (OP)
The dad was a dick

>>151157212 (OP)
sex

LOLLIPOP
>*pop*
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OOOOOOONE LITTLE SLIP

>>151157212 (OP)
I think it's an interesting film since on the one hand it has a pretty likable main character, a great soundtrack with my favourite track being Stir It Up, The overall story idea of Chicken Little trying to overcome his paranoia and stigma from an incident could work and all the cinematography with the alien scenes is oddly top notch before their reveal. On the other hand the animation has aged poorly, the story is messy, the aliens are an odd addition that should've been integrated better, the mind rape thing with Foxy is really bizarre, important scenes got cut from the film that would've helped it and the father is especially awful alongside the town. It's not a good film but I watched it a lot growing up so I have a sort spot for it despite its obvious flaws.....also I plan to commission art of the sexy Hollywood Abbey from the ending.

>>151157212 (OP)
Bad but enjoyable. As like Lorax and Bee Movie, it has a lot of meme value.

It's bad but not hard to watch.
Wouldn't mind a rewatch if it was on.
Chicken Little himself is still an endearing protagonist but my goodness the film just feels unpleasant at points because the town genuinely did not deserve to be saved.
It's the same problem Zootopia faced with the shock collars.
The pop culture references can be grating since you tell they were trying to be as "Dreamworks as possible" after Shrek's big success and certain character pissed off Michael Eisner but I would've taken the original concept where it was more down to Earth and didn't have aliens shoved in.

>>151157212 (OP)
I saw this movie on my fifth birthday and I still think it's solely responsible for my low self esteem. I've already contacted countless medians, doctors and even slowly sorceries and they all told me the same thing. I've made countless curses at the help of the sorcerors wishing death and misfortune at the director of this dastardly dreaded movie for YEARS now, but alas..... Mark Dindal lives another day.

>>151157212 (OP)
I honestly feel it's overhated. It's not a great film, but it's funny as hell and very nostalgic to me.

>>151158525
Pretty much my exact thoughts, honestly maybe they should've tried something like the fakeout end movie except maybe have Chicken Little be still a younger protagonist who gets roped into it because of the sky falling stuff. Though the grounding the story idea is probably a more narrative salvageable approach and honestly the delete scenes for the movie both when Chicken Little was instead a female protag and after the major retool it got are genuinely some of the better done scenes.

>>151158540
Honestly I think the sequel film and show they had planned could've been interesting to see how it could've salvaged the world of the film since I honestly think Chicken Little himself is a good character.

>>151158525
>I would've taken the original concept where it was more down to Earth and didn't have aliens shoved in.
What was it? I know Chicken Little was originally a girl but don't know anything beyond that.

>>151158554
She goes to a summer camp to try to build up courage and overcome her paranoid anxiety but it turns out the camp is a front by a bunch of wolves seeking to fatten up the kids and eat them in a feast.

>>151157212 (OP)
I'm a zoomer and I love it and I want the second movie

>>151157782
It's with a heavy heart that I must admit I thought the exact same thing when rewatching Chicken Little a few years back. She's adorkable

>>151158621
I just lusted after the ending movie version of her

>>151157858
Lizard?

>>151157832
>Forced Stepford Wife Fetish

>>151158536
>I still think it's solely responsible for my low self esteem.
How?

>>151158525
>It's the same problem Zootopia faced with the shock collars.
You are soft as shit. Zootopia SHOULD have been a noir movie about institutional racism... for all ages.

DON'T GO BREAKING MY HEART!

NEVER FUCKING FORGET
THE REAL KINO WE HAVE LOST

>>151163702
meme magic was real that day

>>151164645
It really was. Its a shame the desu link to the old shit doesn't work anymore, you can't really download the powerpoint anymore.

kys /v/irgins

I'm glad most people agree that what happened with Foxy was super fucked up

>>151165188
Yeah that is genuinely insane it got into the film and none questioned it. Though I'm also vaguely curious what it'd be like if that happened to the Ace in Action version from the video game.

Why was this in Kingdom Hearts 2?

>>151167078
shilling.

>>151157858
that song a hood classic

>>151162445
The problem is that you don't WANT the city to be saved
You'd want Nick and Judy to let it burn because of how corrupt Zootopia is

Henny Penny sounded like it would’ve been a lot better

>>151171337
Speak for yourself.

>>151171394
>>151171337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DoJoNt_EGA
Like, you expect me to say "Yeah, fuck that father and son for making me sad!"?

>>151171394
>>151171425
The point of dystopia stories is that you don't save the dystopia, you save yourself
You don't spend time to try and reform a place that actively hates you, you just leave

>>151171566
>dystopia
Noir.

>>151171595
It's a fucking dystopia dude
You can't convincingly undo generations of discrimination rooted in such corruption in two hours tops without seeming contrived

>>151171612
Who said anything about undoing? You gotta start somewhere.

>>151171595
Whatever you say but Pixar spelled out the problem perfectly
The Zootopia crew wanted the audience to love Zootopia like its such magical wonderland that you'd want to visit yourself but when the place is so awful, so blatantly corrupt you don't want to see it be saved
Any sort of whimsy and magic Zootopia tries to pull falls flat because you just see through the bullshit
It's not like Coraline where that's the point, you're supposed to fall in love with Zootopia as a locale the same way the film's production staff fell in love with it too

>>151171628
Yeah, that's how the film was always supposed to end with the shock collars in mind
Zootopia is "saved" and everyone celebrates as racism is finally over

>>151171658
So just don't have it end that cleanly.
>>151171649
You don't need to like a setting to love it. You can be fascinated by it, enthralled by it. Blade Runner's setting is objectively a shithole but you love it because it's a beautiful shithole.

>>151171712 (me)
Man, I think a Disney that was still willing to have smoking and drinking and real guns in its movies would have done "Zootopia that doesn't pull its punches on racism", and done the idea justice.

>>151171712
>You don't need to like a setting to love it. You can be fascinated by it, enthralled by it. Blade Runner's setting is objectively a shithole but you love it because it's a beautiful shithole.
You don't fucking get it dude
There's literally a documentary explaining why shock collar Zootopia just didn't work
The film's production shifted from a spy movie starring animals to a movie about the city of animals itself because the crew loved the city so much and wanted the audiences to love it as well
Accepting Zootopia is an irredeemable shithole that deserves to have Nick and Judy bailing spits at the entire reason why shifted gears to begin with

>>151171732
I fundamentally disagree with their premise.

>>151171732
*why they shifted gears to begin with
If shock-collar Zootopia was a person, it'd be a drunken abusive douchebag who physically assaults everyone yet the film tries to convince that they're somehow still a good person underneath and can be saved.
The audiences doesn't want the abuser saved or redeemed, they'd want the people he abuse to either leave or revolt

>>151171741 (me)
>>151171732
That is, the idea that it is inherently repulsive and impossible to make work.
>>151171746
>it's another "anthropomorphizing concepts" episode

>>151171757
It could only work if Zootopia is accepted to be an unlovable shithole and Nick and Judy LEAVE which wasn't on the table for the team to do because it's counter intuitive to the film they wanted to make.
A film like shock-collar Zootopia has potential but insisting that the city could be saved and that all of its problems could be solved so quickly, so easily is a load of horseshit.
Tell me Anon, how would you have the film end with shock-collars in mind under the condition that the audience needs to love Zootopia AND not see it as a shithole?

>>151171757
You know how everyone makes fun of Shrek 3's ending where Artie pulls a talk no jutsu and convinces a crap ton of villains to be good through the most milquetoast speech possible?

>>151165188
>>151165500
honestly I think it gave me a mindrape fetish

>>151171783
>AND not see it as a shithole
Not happening. I reject that requirement.
>>151171804
Shock collars are gone. EVERYTHING ELSE is gonna require more work. Story ends with the start of Our Heroes rolling up their sleeves and planning the "more work". There's your ending.

>>151171831
>I reject that requirement
Congrats, you still don't get it
>There's your ending.
That's still less satisfying than Nick and Judy bailing or the predator uprising destroying the corrupt system

>>151171846
I don't "get it" because I reject the assumptions behind "it".

>>151171831
>Shock collars are gone
Through what?
A talk no jutsu?
A petition?
Pinning generations of trauma and discrimination on conveniently one guy and defeating them just magically solving the problem?

>>151171867
>the assumptions
Just watch the documentary

>>151171869
Exposing the lie the whole system was built on, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Epilogue timeskips to a few months after the climax. Collar law, after a legal battle, is abolished.
>>151171884
Assumptions as in the premise of the Pixar basedlords' argument.

>>151157212 (OP)
I have zero thoughts about this movie. Didn’t see it when it came out, and when it aired on TV I didn’t think much of it.

>>151157832
This part was legitimately terrifying

>>151171902
>Epilogue timeskips to a few months after the climax.
Is a fucking cop-out
>Assumptions as in the premise of the Pixar basedlords' argument.
Let's go back to Chicken Little
What felt more satisfying?
The town that spent the majority of the film picking on a child to the extent of making a film just to humiliate him even further being saved or the town being decimated by aliens?

>>151171902
>Assumptions as in the premise of the Pixar basedlords' argument.
Except the Zootopia staff agreed
They didn't want Zootopia to be unlovable

>>151171930
Shithole=/=unlovable
That's what I'm trying to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RScZrvTebeA
>>151171921
The twist was that the aliens weren't actually invading, remember?

>>151171949
Loving a shithole for how beautiful it looks != Loving a shithole to not want to see it be destroyed for how corrupt it is
Shock-collar Zootopia isn't this neon lit city with advanced technology and architecture that feels like a step into tomorrow, it's a theme park-esque metropolis with talking bipedal animals.

>>151157212 (OP)
Pile of shit.

>>151171978
>talking bipedal animals
And you care about them, because they are a reflection of us, for good and for ill.

It's pretty boring

>>151171949
>twist was that the aliens weren't actually invading, remember?
Sure but the thought of the townspeople being eradicated was still more cathartic than seeing them be saved because the average towns person in the film gave zero reason for the audience to feel bad upon their abduction

>>151171988
And you want the good ones to just leave the town
It's simpler, easier, and more realistic than somehow trying to save the place and delude yourself into thinking it's worth staying in

>>151157212 (OP)
Still one of the worst things Disney ever made.

>>151172012
*leave the city

>>151172000
I don't fantasize about people being murdered. I think that's the big disconnect.
>>151172012
You think it's not like that everywhere? You think Zootopia is this self-contained city-state, not part of a country? The problem needs to be addressed at the root because this is the place where it all began.

>>151157212 (OP)
don't even remember the plot

>>151172032
>You think Zootopia is this self-contained city-state
Yeah, it kind of was
It's why there's such a big deal over it being the place where predator and prey "co-existed"

ITS THE END OF THE WOOORRRLD
AS WE KNOW IT

>>151172032
>I don't fantasize about people being murdered. I think that's the big disconnect.
1. They're cartoons
2. They were colossal assholes who deserved no sympathy
3. Come on mate, you've never felt catharsis seeing fictional characters die before?

>>151172048
Different groups of people coexist in The Big City. That's how The Big City throughout history has most always been.
>>151172075
I don't think assholes should die for it. I'm sorry you got bullied in school.

>>151172088
They
Are
Cartoons

>>151172095
So why do you want them to die so badly? They're just cartoons.

>>151172112
Because it's funny and cathartic
It's basic rules of karma
And even if you want to take a step back from outright murder, it's still more gratifying to the audience than Chicken Little earning their respect because the audience wouldn't care about their respect to begin with

>>151171988
>>151171949
>>151171831
25:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAIAIEAhVXw

>>151172144
You should see a therapist, because you're clearly not over being bullied in school.

>>151172159
The average therapist will say telling fiction from reality is a healthy mindset
I'm not gonna treat fictional characters on the same level I treat real life people no matter how much I love or hate the former

>>151172158
It's like talking to a brick wall: I reject "it made me sad, so it's inherently bad" as an argument.
>>151172171
You clearly view fictional people as proxies for people you know IRL. I don't.

>>151172203
>You clearly view fictional people as proxies for people you know IRL.
No, I don't
I just like cartoon violence because it's funny
>"it made me sad, so it's inherently bad"
27:23
The audience is supposed to love Zootopia from the start, not hate it
That was the intentions of the filmmakers

>>151172245
>love
Love of a setting can be for a lot of reasons.

>>151172259
>Love of a setting can be for a lot of reasons.
Except they don't feel love
They felt hate
None of the fancy architecture or bright family friendly colors is gonna mean shit when the audience is introduced to the city being a gigantic shithole
You immediately show people a city that arrests a father over bs and separates him from his child as the police give zero craps about said child's pleas and expect the audience to still believe the city is lovable and not think the protagonist is delusional for thinking said city is lovable?

>>151172293
>They felt hate
Yeah, because they're soys. I see that, and I'm thinking "Where you going with this, bro?" I'm intrigued.

>>151172362
>Yeah, because they're soys.
Because they immediately saw through the corruption
Again think of it like how Coraline did it
The Other World is ominous but you get why Coraline would be so enchanted by it but the film doesn't hold back when it reveals it was all a fabrication and doesn't expect the audience to still love the Other World after the big twist.
Here?
The audience knows Zootopia is awful, sees that it's awful, and can't be convinced it's lovable to the extent of it being worth salvaging

>>151172383
>can't be convinced [...] being worth salvaging
Because they're soys.

>>151172396
>Because they're soys.
Because the setting gave zero reason to be worth saving to begin with
Again, the point of dystopias isn't the hero saving the dystopias
The point of dystopias is the hero saving themselves

Hey so I'll probably try to commission stuff of the sexy Hollywood version of Abbey over this month and maybe next year so I'm game for any ideas within reason you guys have.

>>151172407
>dystopia
Was the US at the height of Jim Crow a dystopia?

>>151172451
Did Jim Crow have shock collars?

>>151172451
If you were an outsider and visited the US during the height of Jim Crow, would you still call the US lovable?

>>151157212 (OP)
one little slip
that's the only thought

>>151157212 (OP)
It was bad, but looking at the Development Hell it went through, I can't blame Mark Dindal. I mean, fucking hell, that movie got rewritten until it was a mangled shadow of what it started out as.

>>151157212 (OP)
bad stuff

Morkubine Porcupine

>>151165125
I have the ppt.
Those days were glorious. Sadly last May they wanted to replicate it but it was shit.

>>151157212 (OP)
Haven't watched it in about that long. All I remember is the dancing fish and a few of the songs. I also remember the duck girl lifting her leg when Chicken Little kissed her.

>>151175042
Yeah, Chikn Nugget isn't exactly what I'd call a good artist, and the powerpoint was kino exactly because it was pre-moefication. I wouldn't have figured they'd have been able to actually do shit right.

I think the thing I miss the most from the threads was the kino dogyd pics he posted of Foxy. That shit's basically gone from the internet and its a shame nobody preserved them.

>>151174459
Yo

>>151172451
Imagine if you saw a movie from the perspective of a black man or any persecuted minority in the height of discrimination and the movie tries to convince you the setting that enforces this discrimination is somehow lovable just because of some wacky cartoony buildings and characters.

>>151157212 (OP)
Always surprises me a bit that this came out as late as 2005, because it looks so primitive in both animation and aesthetics. I know it was Disney's first real foray into cartoony 3D, but it honestly looks significantly worse than the original Toy Story despite coming out a decade later.
Even Meet the Robinsons and Bolt look significantly better despite coming out only a few years later, and it's genuinely inconceivable to me that they went from it to Tangled in only five. Just look at picrel for reference, it's honestly impressive.

>>151157212 (OP)

Chicken himself is a good character stuck in a crap movie and I wish we got the original script instead.

Also his summon in KH2 is really underrated.

>>151178949
Honestly they compensated for it with really good shots and composition and flow. Yeah chicken little doesn't really look amazing but there's honestly a beauty to just scenes like Foxy winning and dabbing on people like a motherfucker while skidding on dirt or the designs and bodies actually being varied and more. I wouldn't call it uglier than Toy Story because frankly Toy Story kinda always looked bad to me, but chicken little absolutely had enough balls to do stuff like an alien invasion and some pretty motion heavy scenes that some other movies seemed afraid to do.

>>151179254
I wouldn't call him a good character, but he sticks out and comes off as sympathetic because every other character in the movie is written so poorly and made to be so fucking stupid and obnoxious. Or in the case of his dad, an outright vile asshole who never gets any comeuppance.

can someone please leak chicken ltitle 2?

>>151179254
They should give him a voluptuous yet kind bird babe to compensate for how nasty everyone is to him and that his father is a twat. That's aside yeah I honestly think he's a pretty good character and does a lot of heavy lifting for the film.

>>151157212 (OP)
it sucks and I hate it
the only people who like it were DVD kids who didn't had cable television

>bully tomboy girl gets mind broken into being prim and proper girl
>heroes have a chance to fix her
>don't

Uhmmm, yikes