Thread 151167362

Does anyone else really dislike this harsh black shading that cape so many cape shit artists use?
It looks unnatural, characters will be in broad daylight and they are shaded like their under a studio overhead lamp.

nah, I think it looks cool as hell and part of the visual identity of cape comics and something is lost in how it's fallen out of favor.
It's interesting to me that when Japanese artists homage American comic style their go-to is adding heavy black inkingm

>>151167362 (OP)
No. It's not even a problem.

>>151167362 (OP)
I don't like it when it looks like shit. I can live with the lighting not making total sense.

>>151167362 (OP)
Quite the opposite actually, I think is visually striking yet elegant in its simplicity and makes art look good in colours or black and white

>>151167362 (OP)
Looks cool but at least you expressed your opinion like a human.

>>151167362 (OP)
Half the time this starts out as something that's supposed to be primarily black with blue highlights

>>151167362 (OP)
The example you posted is kinda ugly.

>>151169908
That would explain the number of blue-haired people in comic books.

>>151167362 (OP)
yes

>>151167362 (OP)
No, I love it.

>>151167362 (OP)
No. I think it looks fantastic and should be used more.

>>151167362 (OP)
Nope. I miss it. It may not always make sense, but it's visually striking and just plain stylish.

>>151167362 (OP)
Black shading was prevalent throughout various comics and animation, not just superhero stuff. If you can't even grasp something as simple as a certain art style, then you're too dumb for these art forms.

>>151167362 (OP)
It looks grrat.

>>151173934
To me that reads less as red suit with heavy shading and more black suit with red rimlighting

No

>>151167362 (OP)
Sounds like you're just trying to find something to be angry over.

>>151174049
Your example is the technique being used for effect on a villain.

>>151173934
You should probably stick to comics made with traced models.

>>151176152
Character silhouettes are important but just having a good silhouette isn't enough for iconic character designs. Colors and shape language help.

>>151177643
That makes no sense given how many comics that are made with models tend to eschew any hard and heavy black inking.

>>151167362 (OP)
I don't really like it but I'm mainly annoyed with how retardedly overused it is.

>>151167362 (OP)
Looks good with flat coloring, it's the photoshop gradients that make that inking style ugly.

>>151177625
I guess you're trying to imply in Japan the technique is only meant to show evilness, but it's still being used for effect to show muscular definition and you can find similar example from the era for heroes anyway.

>>151176152
I think people would recognize Tony and Peter based on poses alone, they don't need the white bits

>>151169908
That's literally what happened with Spidey, Ditko designed him to be red and black but they used blue to shade him, which quickly transformed into the costume to be red and blue, hence why many alt costumes drop the blue

>>151167362 (OP)
you're speaking of the issue in a weird tone. black ink shading is fundamental to comics at least as far as the news stand floppies, any deviation of it has been the exception.

>>151178215
okay, but it's about design. You can't hold the character in that one pose forever.

An instructor once said that a good design is one that even someone hard of seeing could identify in animation or a comic. I don't know if I agree just because of >>151176152 If you have to keep them in a certain pose, doesn't that go against the point?

>>151176152
Spider-Man is probably the best example of why that rule is more of a suggestion because he literally just has a regular silhouette and it's the design of his costume, his cool powers, and the quality writing that make him great.

>>151178687
There's always exceptions to a rule. Who's going to actually argue Spider-Man is not a good design? There's a reason he's had basically the same costume since the 60's

>>151179228
This bothers me specially because whenever someone tries to pass it as some kind of bechdel style design rule set in stone they always use silhouettes cut from those promotional stills everyone has seen before, yes, I can recognize Mickey Mouse or Sonic immediately, because I've seen them already in that exact pose a thousand times already, can you recognize this character? what they're doing?

>>151174074
To me it looks like shiny dark red, like metallic or velvet

>>151177870
Sorry Anon, >>151177643 was meant for OP.

>>151167362 (OP)
what makes it look unnatural? to me, stronger shadows = brighter light source like the sun, weaker shadows = less light like outside at night

>>151179771
i don't know his name, the red faggot that sings under the sea

>>151167362 (OP)
it's like that because the US had humorously bad printing presses until way after everybody else, so color printing had a very limited color pallet and the colors available tended to bleed into one another if you didn't use them in specific ways

but because that was what the visuals looked like, even when the US switched to modern printing technologies the characters used the same visual cues because they'd become part of the visual language of comic books; the only difference between your recolor image of an old-style printing and this image of Spidey in new-style is the little bit of crosshatching yours has where this one uses gradient shading, which was impossible with the older printing presses

>>151176152
Hyperion, Catman, Iron Patriot, Sideways

>>151179771
dory

>>151179228
>Spider-Man is probably the best example of why that rule is more of a suggestion because he literally just has a regular silhouette and it's the design of his costume, his cool powers, and the quality writing that make him great.

Posing would go a long way to help that you. the silhouette itself is pretty basic sure but he has a very particular way of moving and posing. Even just the the thwip gesture is enough to really do ya.