Thread 151188428

It’s called Adventure Time, not Drama Time, this show should’ve never became stiffly-animated loreshit in the first place, it worked best and looked best in season 1.

Shippers, man. It always happens when they're working on a show.

this is what adventure is for women
gossip and slutting around

>>151188428 (OP)
Don’t you love how ground breaking and original it is when they make men always the problem. It’s just so nuanced and brave, no one else is asking these questions.

>>151188428 (OP)
I can smell tourist from here

>>151188428 (OP)
Fionna and Cake were always the worst part of the original series. Making them canon and making the whole show about them is sad direction for this series. It's so fucking over lmao

>>151188515
true

I’ve always hated when cartoons became less expressive after their first season.

>>151188428 (OP)

This show is highly satanic because it has women outside the kitchen

>>151188640
no being expressive = meme faces. expression is bad. everything must be static and bland to show this is a serious adult show now with casual sex and partying.

>>151188428 (OP)
This

At the very least this series gave us Finn x FP crumbs. Never thought I would see that again.

>>151188575
The first Fionna and Cake episode was fun. A silly little what-if twist on things just for laughs. Turning Fionna and Cake into a show about a depressed fuck-up and her dating life was always going to be a horrendous mistake.

>>151188674
They’re gearing this shit towards adults? God it’s like High Guardian Spice all over again.

>>151188428 (OP)
it's a spinoff, spinoffs are going to be different

>>151188734
it's made for millennials and adult zoomers yes. no kids are watching this.

>>151188640
Also true of Star vs. The Forces of Evil.

I think with the first season they're eager to impress but if it survives that someone is there to say they can coast on past success and they don't need to spend that much money anymore.

>>151188428 (OP)
>Change in a 15 year old franchise…BAD
Would you rather have yet another case of The Simpsons where a show remains static and airs the same things over and over and over again?
Seems to me this is more about “they’re making content for people I don’t like”

>>151188643
So damn true. Lead them back in in cuffs and attach ankle weights

>>151188798
False dichotomy

>>151188798
adventure time has been this sort of gay melodrama targeted at women most of its lifespan at this point has it not?

If you don't like it the don't watch. Simple as. This show will do plenty well without you, who aren't even part of the targeted demograph. I personally think the show is the best it has ever been and the audience clearly thinks the same.

>>151188798
It’s the Tumblr Show, playing the same things from 2012 posts over and over again

>>151188832
>If you don't like it the don't watch. Simple as. This show will do plenty well without you, who aren't even part of the targeted demograph. I personally think the show is the best it has ever been and the audience clearly thinks the same.

>>151188798
I’d prefer a cartoon does new things that don’t make me want to neck myself

>>151188832
>durrr this show is the best it’s ever been

Go back to watching your Wojack Redditman tier slop fagtard.

>>151188515
Accurate AF

>>151188832
>namefag has an opinion

>>151188839
Holy NIGGER of NOSTRADAMUS did you just REPLY to HIM with a WOJAK?

>>151188812
Reductionist take
>>151188835
>>151188843
That’s a “yes”.

>>151188428 (OP)
That picture is just sad too. A smarter anon can draw parallels to real life but to puppet what that dude said in the post; where is the magic? bright hills? strange creatures? Instead here is the highlight/awesome moment of the show:
>Stress & Drama
>Dark, dirty, low lit random ass bathroom
>Friday night skank line passed out infront of Taco Bell at 1am uniform
How depressing

>>151188789
American Dragon got more Dynamic in the second season.

>>151188515
oh
OH.

>>151188428 (OP)
The whole show turned into weird existential loreshit around 2015, which was also the time Cartoon Network brought the show airings down to 5 episodes every 3-4 months without any repeats.

I actually thought the show was cancelled for a while there, turns out they only ever played AT in bombs for one week every few months for the rest of the run. They clearly did not have the same level of confidence in it that they used to have back in the 2012 days.

>>151188715
That’s shit

>>151188789
Star did it because Disney moved production to a much cheaper shittier animation studio. There was at least a technical excuse happening there instead of a conscious decision on part of the directors in charge.

>>151189463
To be fair, with all the shit they were shifting their focus to, Adventure Time became less of a "drop in, drop out" kind of show and far more of a time sink to really understand what was going on, so putting the episodes together in clumps was the only real way to get anything proper out of the show now, which has its benefits and drawbacks.

>>151188812
Yep, since about the 3rd season it turned from wacky adventures with songs to odd shit dealing with people's personal emotional problems, shipping, and loneliness

>>151188428 (OP)
>and it seems like DJ Flame is more wrong in this world
Because GOD forbid the maladapted woman child be wrong for once in media.

>>151189503
I knew these posts would happen. Predictable and boring.

>>151189503
>not wanting a curry to be shown as an asshole

>>151188832
Wait...at this point who even is the target demo for it?

Adventure Time was a kids 8-11 series. But even the main series was not quite that after season 3. Even the original demo for the first series would be late 20s by now, is it them? Or is it teens who picked it up around 2017? Is Cartoon Network/WB animation interested in making an animated series for adults or is this still claiming to be for kids 8-11?

>>151188428 (OP)
Goddamn Cake is hot here

>>151189517
You have to acknowledge we have a point sometimes though. You're not tired of the same scenarios happening ad nauseum because writers are afraid of having the female character seem wrong? Why must the male characters carry that burden forever?

>>151189543
I don't think kids age 8-11 really care all that much for some mid 30 something loser that cannot hold a job, keep a boyfriend, and drops her pants to piss off her boss. Nor would their parents.

>>151189543
adventure time stopped being for kids when they started going all in on muh lore, muh trauma, muh lesbians, muh finn is a privileged straight white cis male and deserves to suffer.

>>151188897
>That’s a “yes”.
Dyke reply

>>151189543
>who even is the target demo for it?
Femoids.
>b-but what does that have to do with AT?
Nothing. Corpos want everything to pander to them because they are the biggest consoomers, simple as.

>>151188428 (OP)
>Jake in AT, cool bro with some implications of casually taking drugs
>Cake in F&C, "Oi mah gal, let's dress like sluts and go fuck randoms in a party!"

>>151189573
Well, no they don't have to Acknoledge that because they hate it when people recognize patterns and say "we've seen the male character is an asshole a million times before" so they try to deflect and gaslight to make it seem like the pattern recognizers are the problem

>>151189669
Cope

>>151189669
>Cake in F&C, "Oi mah gal, let's dress like sluts and go fuck randoms in a party!"
Based, I will now watch your...well nevermind. No way they'd have any action that's appealing to a man in their gay, woke show.

>>151188715
and then they immediately dashed it.

>>151189729
Anon, the show gets dozens of threads here

>>151189771
Threads to complain about the shit that they do and praise the little times we see Finn tells you a lot anon.

>>151189742
Good.

>>151189503
Lmao I remember an anon called it in a thread before season 2 even aired.
How fucking predictable woketards are

>>151188428 (OP)
>the male version is more on the wrong in breaking up with the the woman
Do these people have any self-awareness? Ever? Are they literally all the same all the time?

>>151188428 (OP)
Sgt. Hatred is just mad it's not about young Finn anymore

>>151189977
hey now, he got a bit better about that by the end

>>151188839
>>151188846
>>151188867
>>151189543

Why are you guys surprised the target demo is not to you or children anymore? This show has not been pitched to kids for over a decade now with lgbtqa+ themes and shifting the focus away from Finn and Jake to other characters. None of this was overnight and you knew this was happening so why are you surprised? This show moved on without you and you have to let it go

>>151188640

>Children's media
>Doing anything that might actually appeal to kids

All twitter screencap threads both need, and deserve to be punished with a public ban.
10+
Use janny bypass if you must.
https://sys.4chan.org/co/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=151188428

>>151188640
>I’ve always hated when cartoons became less expressive after their first season.
the horse show made more meme faces in later seasons and they suck ass

>>151190047
Kids were gay, anon. It's not like a gay child is born as 25 year olds

>>151190047
>acting as if good reboots and spinoffs shouldn’t appeal to fans of the original show

Same energy

>>151188428 (OP)
more like transition time lmao

>>151190361
>muppet babies
>ducktales
>thundercats
did kids even enjoy these

>>151190047
So why not create an entire new IP instead of cannibalizing and mutating the original. Oh, that's right, they ride on the more successful AT original because they are talentless hacks.

>>151188428 (OP)
HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS TRANNY SHIT, INSTEAD OF WATCHING AND DISCUSSING SOMETHING ELSE.
Whatever, the thread will hit bump limit again while actually discussion threads of anything else get archived in a few hours.

Adventure Time was a big fucking mistake, people act like Steven Universe damaged the animation industry when in reality it was AT, every show that came from its garbage alumni is absolute cancer. This show is also what gave us that shitty beanmouth style that execs force onto shows and caused people to stop giving a shit about animation quality, it did longlasting damage on cartoons and it shows.

>>151190476
As many times as we please.

>>151190570
That's mine amazing shows tho

>>151190570
Steven Universe opened the floodgates for the current wokie madness. AT was literally DnD boy-adventure inspired work. Steven Universe and AT are not the same, and it didn't go to shit until Pendleton left and freaks began to take it over, like Sugar, who then went on to dump all over AT further (by going behind CEO backs) and create the woke abomination of SU.

>>151188515
This is the nail on the head. Women pay minimal attention to details of the world, emphasizing personal impressions and feelings where the world as a set of things that make you feel different ways. Women do not experience wonder or whimsy. They are too spiritually empty for world-building.

>>151188428 (OP)
Hey chud, it's called Fionna and Cake, not Adventure Time, that's why there isn't any adventure in it. #transrights #releasetheepsteinfiles

>>151190657
Steven Universe was definitely one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse for animation, but Adventure Time was what really damaged animation artistically. Pendleton Ward can barely even draw, even his board work on Flapjack looked like shit, not helping is the fact that he immediately disapproved of these expressions >>151188640
and wanted his show to look more bland and less expressive after season one intentionally, Adventure Time also taught executives that normies don’t give a fuck about the quality of animation and only care about writing, that show is why so many cartoons of the past 15 years look like reheated dog shit and why executives don’t give creators the money to make them look good.

>>151190614
Why, if you're so unhappy with the show's bad direction?

>>151190657
You all sat around and let it happen, though. Any of you could have made your own indie cartoons and uploaded them wherever you please; we have youtube videos getting more views than media on main stream sources, so I don't want to hear the cope of "What? Just upload it on the internet for no one to see?!" like we're in 2010 or something.

You reap what you sow. In this case, you let people plant tomatoes in your field and you go "god damn tomatoes, I hate tomatoes!" but I don't see you planting any other kinds of crops.

>>151190777
Yeah, I'm not buying it. SU and AT have widely different subject matter and that is one of the core issues with the current line up of animation and story telling. SU paved the way far more for the current issues in the industry than AT ever did. Low-brow animation existed well before AT and there's been plenty of simplified animations before AT. The issue was SU and it's subject matter and Sugar, who hijacked AT later on.

"hurrrdurrr quirky and relatable millennial woman" is the worst fucking archetype to emerge out of recent animation, it’s just "how do you do fellow kids" but for adults.

>>151190047
Oh, I'm 100% with Adventure Time moving on from Cartoon Network and me moving on from Adventure Time in general. Show ended ages ago, after all. I just think you're a faggot who should choke on a million dicks, and your opinion is as rancid as you are, namefag.

>>151190829
>It's your fault you didn't create an alternative industry
Stupid baka bitch.

>>151188832
>dont like it dont watch
Pretty sure thats what caused the ratings to drop and what lead to the show cancelled.

>>151188640
i liked it when earlier adventure time did this

>>151190449
The originals or the reboots? Because when I was a small child I loved Muppet Babies and Thundercats (I didn't get Disney Channel so I never saw Ducktales)

>>151190829
>You all sat around and let it happen, though.
Correct.
Not my problem.

>>151190449
>>151190940
Kids enjoyed Muppet Babies since it never tried replacing The Muppet Show
Most kids found Ducktales okay because it was doing a lot of deep digs that was more for people who read about the Ducktales comic book on wikipedia than fans of the comics
Nobody watched either of the Thundercats reboots, which is almost a shame if only because the anime-looking one was decent as its own thing

>>151190883
Who are you talking to? I said upload stuff to youtube and you invented "create an entire alternative industry"? See, you have to do dumb shit like literally invent talking points because, if you engaged with any real points, you'd have to agree that you're wrong.

You don't need to create a whole industry, but more people going "I don't like those cartoons, I'll make my own" would be enough to make the big people see we don't need back to back gay shit where the same plot points are rehashed to validate the writers feelings.

>>151190745
Faggot

>>151190855
No. It's girl boss archetype thatales women characters shit

>>151190047
Stop drinking onions.

>>151190829
Indie animation studios weren’t really a thing back in the 2010s, back then people made pilots to be pitched to networks if anything like Hellbenders or pilot era Hazbin Hotel, internet animation back then was mostly just Newgrounds artists like Hotdiggedydemon or PsychicPebbles shitposting. In the 2000’s you had some web cartoons like Queer Duck and Happy Tree Friends making to tv and getting merch but they weren’t seen as anything special back then.

>>151188832
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>>151190047
AM I REALLY THE FIRST PERSON IN THIS FUCKING THREAD WHO HAS ACTUALLY WATCHED THE SHOW?

OP (and many other posters here) IS FULL OF SHIT AND PRETENDING HALF OF THE SHOW DOESN'T EXIST.

The episodes so far had an intentional Normie Stuff/Dangerous Adventure divide and as the show progress the Dangerous stuff is getting more and more into the normie stuff. But it's definitely there.

YOU FUCKING LITTLE SHITHEADS ARE PULLING A TANTRUM ABOUT A SHOW YOU AREN'T EVEN WATCHING!

>>151191006
>Create an alt industry via indie industry
>Just go make your own stuff and post it on YT
>It's easy money
>It's not like there are entire multi-million dollar projects and teams you have to compete against, and they have captured audiences on their streaming platforms or previously on cable
>It's not like YT is unbiased and heavily curates their pet-favorites, shadow-bans people or throttles people's accounts
>It's not like animation is one of the lowest ROI projects and subject matters on YT to chase after either
Okay, whatever you say.

>>151191088
You don't need a studio, though. And I mentioned how its not 2010 anymore. Once executives see media getting a ton of views online, they'll be more inclined to drop the gay shit and chase the action that's happening online. They're doing this for Skibidi fucking Toilet and you feel like that's not a sign or something. Besides that, you people can't act like there's nothing you can do and then be surprised when the industry moves away from you.

>>151191141
Nothing in your greentext is accurate to anything I've said in my post. You fucked up as soon as you repeated "he wants us to create an entire indie industry" when I said "just make cartoons because you want to first and let pieces fall where they may". You don't want solutions.

>>151191136
well its taking too long to get there.

>>151191181
It's a whole thing that I think you don't fully understand, the talent isn't there. The few talents that do emerge go into the industry and what outliers thereafter might go on to make something on YT if they have the financial support for it, aka nepo-babies. You make it sound like creating an animated series isn't a full time job that requires financial backing and support, and YT has de-prioritized animation overall which has been a talking point on there. And the exceptions of the most successful creators doesn't cover that.

>>151188428 (OP)
Actually this show is called Fionna & Cake, you see it is about two characters named Fionna & Cake. Hope this clears things up

>>151191217
While riding directly on the coattails of AT. If they tried to make their own IP and own characters, the show wouldn't be a thing. It requires the background/backdrop of AT to even be interesting or functional.

>>151191136
>The episodes so far had an intentional Normie Stuff/Dangerous Adventure divide and as the show progress the Dangerous stuff is getting more and more into the normie stuff. But it's definitely there.
I don't like that, though. I'd prefer it if it was just normie stuff or just dangerous stuff. And between the two, I'd pick the adventuring and stuff, but I'm not one to turn down a magical slice of life story and all that. My problem is that its vapid, predictable, and I suppose the gay stuff is fine since that's the audience they're looking for, but I wish it wasn't all so typical.

You know what'd be cool? People act like sexuality is a spectrum, but then you see the same gay characters over and over again, so why not have a lesbian character discover she's bisexual when she sees a man she likes? At first, its a very weird feeling, but by the end of the season she's willing to try a relationship with this guy. Or have a shocking moment where she gets her back blown out by this guy after a night of partying and has to reconcile her feeling. That'd be fun.

>>151191236
Nice fetish.

>>151191289
Anything's a fetish when you're on 4chan.

>>151191200
This here is from the first episode of this season, so fuck off.

>>151191353
barely any crumbs. a cutaway to fun fantasy land every once in a while isnt enough.

>>151191236
they never follow up on the shit they preach, they always contradict their own ideals, that's how these people work. It's not that they can't even come up with that, it's that it would be completely against their dogma and a "dangerous message" to send viewers. That's literally how they think, they wouldn't like it, therefore they'd do something about it, and they wouldn't like it because according to their rotten brains some guy might see it, feel good about it, and who knows, maybe even attempt to get with a lesbo *because* of it, which is literally catastrophic to these people. That's the crux of the issue with actually acknowledging that sexuality is a spectrum, so they have an unspoken rule about never really exploring their own beliefs.

>>151191236
>and I suppose the gay stuff is fine
The Romantic stuff for this season focus on straigh relationship, though. Fionna being a mess over Flame DJ and Cake with M-Cron (yes, this is a human on a date with a magical cat, so what?)

>>151188428 (OP)
Honestly the show would be a lot better if it just focused on HW and cut out all the human world stuff.

>>151191406
>barely any crumbs.
>a cutaway to fun fantasy land every once in a while
That's literally half of the episode, so go fuck yourself.
You didn't watch the show.

>>151190570
this is the truth
>that pic
ah yes the flapjack industrial complex

>>151188789
It's true for a shit ton of cartoons. Spongebob, Simpsons, Family Guy, Koth, Gumball etc

>>151191486
You were a mistake

>>151191450
Mmm yes the sexes should split and minimize contact.

>>151191459
>yes, this is a human on a date with a magical cat, so what?
They had to go hard on the magical part this season people kept clowning on the unintentional beastiality.

>>151188640
Cartoons are more expressive in their first seasons because they're trying to impress. Once they get the thumbs up for more seasons they stop trying to impress.

>>151191512
This but unironically.

>>151191516
He used to have an horse dick, after all.

>>151191136
I just wanted to call a namefag's opinion stupid, no need to get so worked up anon

>>151191559
Faggot

>>151190657
while you're not wrong, AT was still "erm what if cool action and adventure, but like, super heckin chill and laid back dude yknow? like what if you could hit up a blunt with the ogre and just talk it out man" and I'm referring to the early episodes btw so you can't say "it became like that later", my sister got curious and wanted to watch it from the beginning because she heard of all the gay women drama shit online, and quit after a couple of the first seasons, so it's still pretty fresh on my mind, so it's literally the beginning of everything wrong with "kids" cartoons currently, it wanted to be super self-aware and subvert everything about boyish action and adventure, and it was really soft and colorful and "like, super mature for a kids show brah". Which is what almost every other show wanted to be for the last decade, even ones I grew up watching andliking.

>>151191559
Okay, my bad.

>>151191576
Thanks for the >(You), good sir

>>151190855
this, I'm so legitimately sick of this shit, and seeing how guys can not only tolerate it but even shill for it is so demoralizing sometimes.

>>151191617
Don't mention it.

>>151191498
King of the Hill I can understand since it’s whole gimmick is being a show that’s supposed to move as realistically and be as realistic as possible. SpongeBob is an interesting case cause the animation was Family Guy-level around seasons 6-9 and became more energetic and expressive around the Waller seasons, it’s funny how it’s pretty much the only show with animation on that level of quality these days. Gumballs animation also didn’t become less expressive, it’s expressions just look ugly as shit now cause they’re made by animators who think making a cartoony expression is just "look at this funny image I found on Google let me slap it on a character"

>>151191507
??? why? I like flapjack I was just making a joke

>>151191459
The straight stuff this season can't make me ignore the majority of gay stuff over the years when it comes to Adventure Time. Regrettably, I have to point out bubbline exists as the perfect LGBTQIA+ relationship while Finn had to repeatedly learn the same "lessons" over and over again for no real reason. One season of straight stuff doesn't make things equal.

>>151188428 (OP)
I cant imagine the delusion and sheer mental chaos required to look at shit like this and not just see a burning hen house. Everything women make is the same. Because they are living such unnatural lives every story they make now is a desperate unconscious cry for help, for a "journey," for self-discovery, for vaguely defined fulfillment, except there's also no accountability and whatever faults do get acknowledged aren't treated as problems to be fixed but innate eccentricities she must learn to accept about herself. It's like how isekai appeals to the loser male's notion that he is secretly a winner deep down and would soar to his full potential in any other kind of world, except this is how all women think and act and we're all expected to act like this isn't the case. I'm just tired of stories written by women who can't think straight because any of the things that would fix them they've been taught are booby traps that lead to abuse, broken dreams, and complacency. Have a family, bitch. Go bake cookies and plan parties. Why do you even want to be in a writer's room? What did they tell you when you were eight that gave you the broken compulsion to self-insert into everything and vent your therapy in everyone's face? Wouldn't it feel good to have the time to clean your bathroom for once? If you're useful and pleasant, your husband won't give a shit that you don't work. You'll get to be the light of someone's life. What fulfillment do you even get writing this shit? You want applause? Have you ever seen the way a toddler runs up and hugs their mom when they've been gone for ten minutes? That's fulfilling.

>>151191581
Early AT wasn't that, stop looking at the internet an watch the goddam thing.

>>151191632
>I'm so legitimately sick of this shit
There is nothing legitimate, there.

>>151191665
I act out of spite towards /co/.

>>151191683
did you read the fucking post or are you actually mentally challenged? go take your ritalin and try reading it again

>>151191693
I see... well go right ahead

>>151191672
>can't make me ignore the majority of gay stuff
Why would you even need to ignore it in the first place. You are not making any sense.

>I have to point out bubbline exists as the perfect LGBTQIA+ relationship while Finn had to repeatedly learn the same "lessons"
PB and Marcie was so dysfunctional that it took them several hundred of years to finally work things out (partially thank t Finn's help). Meanwhile, Finn has already figured how to handle a relationship by the time he was in his second serious one.

>>151191710
>actually mentally challenged
Maybe
>while you're not wrong, AT was still "erm what if cool action and adventure, but like, super heckin chill and laid back dude yknow? like what if you could hit up a blunt with the ogre and just talk it out man" and I'm referring to the early episodes btw so you can't say "it became like that later"
Your words, not mine

>>151191710
Early Finn is obsessed with being a morally upstanding hero but gets excited to fight bad guys and monsters because that's what heroes do. Your head is up your ass.

>>151191672
>LGBTQIA+
You forgot the P

>>151190899
The show was cancelled because Cartoon Network was rebranding to Cartoonito content and TV as a medium for adolescent and adult entertainment died. Thats why AT was airing alongside we baby bears and total drama Rama.


Faggot

>>151191718
>Why would you even need to ignore it in the first place.
I didn't want to watch a gay drama, but I'm willing to overlook it if the show has other qualities I like.

>PB and Marcie was so dysfunctional that it took them several hundred of years to finally work things out (partially thank t Finn's help).
We don't see that, so its not real.

>Meanwhile, Finn has already figured how to handle a relationship by the time he was in his second serious one.
And it only took several episode of Finn needing to "learn" some nebulous lesson. Better late than never, huh?

>>151191845
Cartoon Network died around 2016, by then it started making oversanitized kiddie shit, which failed cause as a network it was always known for being a bit edgy and having a teenage target demographic, what kind of fucking teenage would want to watch an oversimplified beanmouth show about friendship and feelings?

>>151191790
You're on 4chan, so you can't complain about the P. I was just in a fairly odd parents thread where a guy kept referring to a real child actress as a "cute loli", and don't even get me started on the pedos in /tv/

>>151190471

Again adventure time has always been like this. We have had episodes dedicated to other characters. Shipping has always been a focal point of adventure time. What is different now than back then? What has it mutated? You are literally clinging onto the first two seasons of adventure time like they were the only ones that exist.

>>151191920
Fuck off and choke on dick, you subhuman retard.

>>151191920
I don't agree, but I'm willing to compromise and say AT has been like this for more than its been anything else. That doesn't mean I have to like it, though.

>What is different now than back then? What has it mutated? You are literally clinging onto the first two seasons of adventure time like they were the only ones that exist.

That's funny. You seem to know what changed/mutated as you can tell me which seasons were different from the rest of the run. That makes me feel like you're being disingenuous. Yes, AT was different at the beginning. Yes, I prefer how it was for those 2 seasons. Is that a problem?

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>>151191777
One episode I remember super well is them finding this monster that was mistreating the locals who Finn befriends and tries to redeem into a good guy, in the mean time discovering that he's just "not chill like them, he's, like a total bully man" literal words used in the episode. It was not adventure it was a middle school spat between kids, barely dressed up in a fantasy setting, you guys are defending this type of shit for absolutely no reason, I can't even tell if you're misremembering the show or just disingenuous fanboys, the literal first episode is "omg a big monster (a super duper silly gumball machine) is gonna destroy the world!... unless you can do your homework that is!". It was silly shit kids might relate to in an almost slice of life manner, but they're all in a cuddly cartoon. That's not necessarily bad, it's fine for a kids show, but you guys are acting like it was a proper adventure show, when the whole joke was that the adventure was things even the kid watching could experience.

>>151191946

That's exactly what I thought. You ain't got shit to respond with, now fuck off.

>>151191972

I'd be foolish to say it hasn't changed but shows do that. They evolve or progress but that's on you to decide whether you want to stick around or not.

>>151191886
>We don't see that
We do, actually.

>Better late than never, huh?
Like I said, it take way quicker than for PB and Marcie. You are not making a point.

>>151191911
Yeah, mid to late Gen 3 just completely started sterilizing everything and I'm personally interested in seeing what behind the scenes caused that. It's like they decided to dump the age range and content down. I'm wondering through intuition, if they were splitting up their works and age ranges to Toonami and Adult Swim. In that, CN would be for lower age to pre-teen ranges, then Toonami would capture teen to young adult, and then Adult Swim for older teen to young adult and beyond. Cus holy shit, it's extremely apparent when made into a graph like that.

>>151191987
YOU fuck off.

>>151192044
>You are not making a point.
I am, you're just ignoring it. You say PB and Marceline had years and years of history, but we only see any kind of strife for how many episodes? Two? One of which there was friction, and the others they were mostly cool?

Meanwhile, with Finn, we get bizarre sections like LPS forcing herself on Finn, Finn torpedoing his relationships with people for wet dreams and the like. You can disagree, but you outright ignoring the facts only makes you look bad. If you had a leg to stand on, you'd say "Yeah, that happened. BUT!" and not "By ignoring your point, I can say you don't have one."

>>151191982
Yes, and the episode ended with bloodthirsty wolves

>>151188428 (OP)
90% of cartoon lore goes like this
>lore for some children’s media is made just as part of the project to make shit and sell shit and get money. Not really thinking about it to intensely.
>some manchildren and women and foreigners and other nerds and autists and incompetents get hired and they then further develop the more out of wanting status and to feel good and to have it to fullfill their fantasy’s.
>it becomes bloated emotionally driven and overly rationalized dogshit

>>151192102
>You say PB and Marceline had years and years of history, but we only see any kind of strife for how many episodes? Two?
We see them rubbing each other wrong repeatedly. And they get a whole special, Obsidian, precisely about that.

And in how many episode it happened is not relevant at all, you are just grasping at straws there.

Finn simply was a young boy who grew up and figured how to work a decent relationship by the time he was 18.

You still aren't making a point.

>>151191972
If you only like the first two seasons of a 10 plus season show you don't actually like that show.

>>151192190
>You see, you aren't making a point because I'm ignoring and downplaying your side of the argument while exaggerating mine!
If you're going to sweep all of my issues under the rug as "Finn was simply a young boy!", then its clear I've wasted my time with you. I should have just lead with "Bubbaline was simply the writer's fantasy" and left you on read.

>>151192013
>They evolve or progress but that's on you to decide whether you want to stick around or not.
They do, but that doesn't mean the only choices are to just shut up and enjoy it or never speak of it again. You can choose to walk away from a product but still speak your mind of what you found flawed about it.

>>151192238
No, I don't, and I've explained why. There's a real reading comprehension issue in this thread. No, I don't like the show, I liked the first two seasons and feel like the show lost something when it strayed from those seasons. I want to see Fiona's chubby ass get full nelson fucked, but beyond that, the show's not my thing anymore.

>>151192246
>>You see, you aren't making a point because I'm ignoring and downplaying your side
Correction, I am showcasing how YOU are the one trying to overblown one aspect over the other, and showing you that when you actually look at it, the reality is the opposite.

I am not sweeping away your issues, I am showing you there is not much to sweep to begin with.

You still fail to make a point.

>>151192102
PB and Marcy were side characters so they showed up less.

>>151192288
>I am simply uncharitably characterizing your opinion to show you that your feelings are wrong and you must feel like how I feel!

Okay bro, cool. I'm not even sure you understand what my point was since you felt the chronic need to re-interpret it, and then respond to that incorrect interpretation, but cool.

>>151192297
That too.

>>151192264
Why are you in these threads then? There is no porn here for you.

>>151191353
>>151191459
>>151191529
God these new character designs fucking suck, fuck Adventure Time for kickstarting that shitty calarts trend but at least the OG designs in that show had identity, these designs are just generic tumblr shit.

>>151192306
>>I am simply uncharitably characterizing
The otherway arround, I have showcased that YOU were the one making uncharitable depiction of what the show was like.

>>151192312
>Why are you in these threads then?
Killing time, and I like the discussions of adventure time as a franchise. I don't need these threads for porn because I have a whole browser.

>>151192323
>Other things copied this thing so this original thing lost it's identity.

>>151192323
>God these new character designs fucking suck
They are all meant to be human version of the characters.

This is how they design non-human characters. Stop complaining about a show you have clearly not watched, ass.

>>151192339
Yes.

lol this show has been gay since 2011.

>>151192379
And there is nothing wrong with that.

>>151192379
No u

>>151192391
Yeah even the voice actors are into it.

>>151192391
You are wrong

>>151192403
>Why not both.jpg

>>151189543
Women in their mid 20's to early 30's and teens who watched bubbline tiktoks during covid.

>>151192468
>Women in their mid 20's to early 30's
close enough I would guess

>>151192102
The shit youre complaining about has literally happened 12 years ago by now. In many cases we didnt even have GTA 5 yet. Obama was still in his first term. At what point do you move on? Youre complaining about a young adult cartoon taking place in an alternate universe with a mature themes spin. And you couldn't care any less about that actual content of the spin off we're trying to discuss and feel the need to bombard every single Adventure Time thread like its your job.

>>151188428 (OP)
>>151188515
Imagine how depressed FP is after the kiss failed.

>>151189603
>adventure time stopped being for kids when they started going all in on muh lore
Anon you do know that adventure shows require lore in order to work and if you remove that then show will become bland and boring ?

>>151192519
Yeah, so much so that she later killed herself with an ice bucket.

>>151189543
Young adults. And its doing quite well among that demographic too. Its seem like every other week some anon discovers that 99% of the world does not live in your special soapbox basket weaving forum. Some of us are able to enjoy media that doesnt align with our personal beliefs and not have a mental breakdown about it.

>>151189543
>Wait...at this point who even is the target demo for it?
The same demo this show there was made for.

>>151192635
Why couldn't they contact Tartakovsky?

>>151192667
AT has got many guess animators, over the time. I wouldn't be surprised if they asked him too at some point.

>>151192690
I meant as director.

Remember what they took from you.

>>151188428 (OP)
I don't get why people are angry at how Finn's being treated as a side character on a show not about him when Fionna's out here being the most unlikeable and lame protagonist in recent history. No one even watched S1 for her, it was Simon that was the star of the show and he was the emotional core as well. I don't think the writers would conceptualize normal world version of Finn in his late twenties to be so pathetic.

>>151191674
imagine saying this when most successful men need a wife to do all of their basic chores for them in order to keep their work life in order

>>151192744
I always love when you nostalgists come in here pretending like youre protecting some golden aged memory that doesnt exist. Adventure Time WAS the new kid on the block. AT was routinely criticized by 90's kids and vintage cartoon purists. They hated the bright color schemes, noodle arm tube bodies, and lolsorandom humor. You're literally rewriting your own memory of a moment in time that was ripe with civil discourse.

>>151192744
They didn't take away anything.

>>151192779
How does that contradict a single word in the post?

>>151192795
Yes they did.

>>151192793
Doesn’t matter.

>>151188428 (OP)
We all knew it had to end this way.
After Pendleton gave the children free reign over his show, they swiftly turned it into their own personal therapy session, ruining the feel by crafting over burdened "lore" based on their own personal grievances. With mostly women behind the creative team, it would inevitably turn into pastel Mean Girls devoted to empowering the women working on it exclusively.

>I can smell tourist from here
Projection, thy name is Discord Tranny

>>151192238
I liked the show up until season 5 when they decided to end the most popular ship immaturely and dumpster both characters. The series change was slow burn and still had some good episodes mixed in but what was left was unsatisfactory for most people which is why viewership declined dipshit.

>>151192779
kek

>>151192955
The should’ve just had Adventure Time end when it did, heck let all those other 2010’s lore beanmouth cartoons stay in the 2010’s, just make new shit, but oh wait I guess that’s not gonna happen cause of how much people milk the fuck out of pre-existing IPs these days and how much people then go like OH MY GOD MY FAVORITE SHOW IS RETURNING IM SO EXCITED BY THE WAY I TOTALLY CARE ABOUT SUPPORTING ORIGINAL IPS GUYYYYSSS cause they’re gullible enough to watch regurgitated slop.

Alex Hirsch is a whiny bitch and a faggot but to give him credit for one thing at least he’s pretty adamant on not having Gravity Falls continue.

>>151192993
>when they decided to end the most popular ship immaturely and dumpster both characters
That was based and FP was shit.

>>151188798
Simpsons isn't consistent though. And it's worse because of it.

>>151190994
Faggot

>>151193058
FP was cute and you have shit taste.

>>151192808
it doesn't, that guy is just politically opposed to you and has been taught to have innate hatred of anything opposing him, so he doesn't have to be right he just has to be against you and what you said

>>151190995
>Ducktales comic book

>>151193092
YOU have shit taste

>>151193058
actual faggot

>>151193127
I dont understand where your pure hatred for her stems from.

>>151193139
You are

>>151193142
bang.

>>151192357
Just looked it up, you’re telling me this garbage ass drama show is set in an alternate universe from the main one? Than why the fuck is this garbage Adventure Time in the first place? This is just like when rather than making Teen Titans they made the wacky cartoon Teen Titans Go or when rather than making Looney Tunes they made the action capeshit Loonatics Unleashed. If you don’t wanna make Adventure Time, than why are you making fucking Adventure Time? This is such a pathetic attempt at slapping a pre-existing IP onto a new show rather than making a new one for the sake of it gaining attention I don’t know why the fuck y’all are watching this tumblina shit.

>>151193142
Her existence, simple as that

>>151192498
>The shit youre complaining about has literally happened 12 years ago by now.
It happened 12 years ago, so I'm never ever allowed to mention it again? I didn't know art had an expiration date, damn. What else aren't we allowed to talk about because of an arbitrary time limit.

Hey: fuck you. We're here to discuss adventure time, and I'm discussing adventure time. If you don't like what i have to say, ignore me.