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What a start to the week...

>>11268832 (OP)

>>11268834

>>11268835

I love seeing hypnosis treated casually, with lower power similar to how real hypnosis works. Like it's something you could do to a friend that you're really close to, and is an enjoyable if embarrassing experience. Stuff like that is so much better than hypnosis that lets men turn strangers into sex slaves.

New game on steam I was checking out has hypnoses and mind control.
Though the bad side was it was one of those shit CGI visual novels with bad models and poorly animated sex scenes.

Between mind control often being censored on most platforms due to it occasionally having a non-con element to it, and so few devs even understanding the fetish, means pickings are slim.
What makes matters worse is I can easily imagine how erotic hypnoses could be gameafied in a number of engaging ways, but can't make games myself so can't do any better than what's out there.

>>11269024
>What makes matters worse is I can easily imagine how erotic hypnoses could be gameafied in a number of engaging ways, but can't make games myself so can't do any better than what's out there.
1. Bullshit. You can make games. If I can make a game, you can make a game. It's not that hard, you just have to steadily sink time into it.

2. What's the idea? It's very hard to gameify hypnosis as a sub without literally hypnotizing your player. There are a few games that are good for doms out there already, but few of them have meat on them.

>>11268834
Damn thats hot as fuck

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125208779#manga Kind of sucks that this artists isn’t on kemono. There some good images of hypnosis over there.

>>11269024
I'd say it's more than just a few that have a non-con element.
As for gameplay though you're right. There's as many options are there are for any social system that's ever been implemented into a game.

>>11269024
>how erotic hypnosis* could be gamified* in a number of engaging ways
Share them. There's few games that even try to mix it with gameplay. Only relevant examples I can remember playing;
- Entering targets mind and doing simple puzzles to alter their mindset.(Don't recall name, but I recall it was magic school setting and had groping scenes showing hands flying towards the target)
- Doing shitty dungeon crawler to level up hypnosis ability (Noblemans Retort)
- Trying to take over school, so working your way up hypnotizing targets (stuco > teachers > PTA > principal > all students) (Hentai University and probably HHS+).
- Stealth, need to get to targets undetected (Brainwashing with Tentacles)
- Detective style, need to do investigation to gather rumors/blackmail material, then confront target about them so their mentally vulnerable to fall for hypnosis (not actually sure if this was in a game or it was an idea i had)

>>11269282
>There are a few games that are good for doms out there already, but few of them have meat on them.
NTA but any game recommendations? I'm really, really tired of trying and failing to find good games that have hypnosis/mind control as the core mechanic rather than a minor dressing or lazy way to jump straight into bog-standard sex.

>>11269024
I like Jikage Rising personally

>>11270421
Good taste. One that comes to mind is Erosion or Hypnosis of Corruption, it's very straightforward in a good way.

>>11270400
>"Hypnotizing the rich bitch into my personal plaything"
Not really a game, you just get a girl to hypnotize and she'll react to it.
>Going deeper
10/10 ideal for what all porn games should aspire to be. You command 3 knights as the explore a dungeon full of lewd traps and monsters that corrupts them as they go deeper, and have to hypnotize them between missions to direct how the corruption effects them through the mechanics. Very immersive and strong writing. Only downside is that it isn't finished, and there isn't much lewd in the game yet other than the traps.
>Nano control
Frankly kinda shit buggy grindy rpgmaker game where you hypnotize your family and other girls in your village. I had fun with it though, and it does a good job of showing how your subject's personalities change as they become conscious of your control.
>Snow daze
Kinda getting off topic because this is a VN, but also very strong writing for slow subtle corruption. You and your family all get snowed in, and you use subliminals to make them all submissive and worship your cock.

And there are more on my radar, but I can't vouch for them because I haven't played them yet, or they're very not done. I'm hoping succucum brewery is good, but it's in no state to play right now.

Anyone able to identify this hentai/anime from this description:

> Girl 1 puts a spell on girl 2’s guy using a spell tag, essentially becomes a drone.
> girl 2 walk in on it happing and girl 1 puts a spell on girl 2 to have her share sensation with the guy
> girl 1 blows guy, guys dick is censored as a bamboo shoot


Been searching for this one for like a decade

First bump of the site returning

>>11270400
If you don't mind VNs "Even in Sorrow, a Black Lily Blooms" is really good. I managed to get it working on my phone and I had a lot of fun playing it these past few days

>>11270421
>Me looking at that mindless Ino blowjob animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uFyBg-4DW0

>>11268979
Kakuninii's Human Remote Control?

>>11275124
Could you give a run down of what it's like and what fetishes it features? Is it slow hypnosis or instant full control?

>>11276239

It's a yuri VN, it contains BDSM, "dollification" and petplay I believe. In terms of "instant control" vs. "slow hypnosis", it uses fairly long inductions, so that part is slow, but once applied, the hypnosis doesn't seem to have any significant limits. The protagonist can basically make the girls do whatever she wants once they're hypnotized. She's mostly limited by her own courage and sense of morality.

A major aspect of it is the protagonist "Mary" has an alternate personality "Eve" who's trying to corrupt her into brainwashing girls into sex slaves, and which personality is dominant is based on your choices. This more than anything is what leads to gradual escalation over time.

>>11276680
Actually I just remembered it's "Ann", not "Eve". Whatever.

I like a form of mind control where a person is like, implanted with desire/urge or self-perception that isn't their own, and they then are confused and trying and failing to resist the new part of their head space, going back and forth on if they even realized they've changed or not.

If anyone has any recommendations off of that, I'd love to hear it.

if you could apply instant mind control which suggestion would you choose between
>you'll obey every word I say
or
>you'll be extremely agreeable with me, my actions and orders
and why?

>>11279798
Is the nuance that the first is a sort of "body control, they follow your orders even if they don't want to" and the second is "they find themselves wanting to do anything you say"?

In that case, second, easily.

>>11279937
it isn't body control. Just pure obedience. Even if she knows that you don't want that, it's a order and she must follow.

The other maker her more agreeable to anything.

Both can be poisonous in their own ways.

>>11279937
>you'll obey every word I say
>>11279937
>body control, they follow your orders even if they don't want to
See, I'm all about that. Body control's the good shit, visible or otherwise.

>>11279798
Latter, would rather have an enabler instead of a slave. Also first one comes with the Code Geass risk, saying something as joke or when emotional and they do something you regret.

>>11279946
>it isn't body control. Just pure obedience. Even if she knows that you don't want that, it's a order and she must follow.

My man, you're gonna have to use some more words, or maybe some examples, because I'm not sure what the difference between "Does everything you say" and "agrees with everything you say" is.

Is the first one like:

>Reacts to anything you say as an unavoidable fact of life, so if you tell her to do something she doesn't want to do, she shrugs her shoulders and says "can't be helped" and does it in the same way you'd do an unpleasant but mundane task at work

While the second is:

>Eagerly agrees with anything you say, so if you tell her to do something she doesn't want to do, she 180s her opinion and suddenly is eager to do it

I'll still take the second. Enthusiastic (forced) consent is hot, especially when it's the result of mind control. Like when she begs you to brainwash her more, and make her love to do things she currently hates, or flip around her preferences/hobbies? That's 10/10.

>>11280192
First one is like Fate's Command Seals. They'll be forced to do it, will most likely hate you and probably try to kill you unless you order them not to.

>>11280263
That's LITERALLY body control. The seals contain massive amounts of magical energy, which flow through the servant and move their bodies against their will, causing pain if they resist. We often see them (at least some of the stronger of them, like Gilgamesh or Saber) actively resisting their orders.

Conversely, we never see any kind of mental manipulation from command seals. Even Rin's order to Archer "Obey all of my commands" (or something like that) merely slightly drops his attributes when he disobeys her (which he does often), and they both agreed it was a stupid command. I'm pretty sure (at least in the main game, can't speak to the 1001 spinoffs) we never see command seals cause any kind of cognitive changes.

>>11280390
You're completely right. It's hot as a mind control concept, but it doesn't actually work like that, and it'd be way hotter if used as body control. Alas...

>pic
I looooove magical bondage like that.
This being in the mind control thread makes me picture it as sort of ambiguously there, more a representation of the control over her than actual, physically restraining magic light. Maybe they only appear when she's straining against the control? That could be fun.

I wish a self-aware slave who's smart enough to act independently for the interest of her master is more common
Mindless blank slave gets old pretty fast

>>11282067
When you reprogram a brain, you can easily run into the same problems you get when you're first learning to code. Not enough exception handling and they can just blank out, go into low a power idle.

>>11268979
100%. Silly/embarassing suggestions get me going even more than typical sexy stuff. I've fantasised more than a few times about a friend back at school practising on me, turning me into a dumb chicken in the library during lunch.

>>11282429
That's very specific

>>11282429
Being overcome with lust is a fairly normal thing. that's something anyone is capable of without hypnosis. Humiliating themselves completely without any shame or awareness is the best way to show the power of hypnosis.

I have some more good futaba hypnosis, but this isn't /aco/ so :p

>>11268832 (OP)
>>11268834
>cute girl gets brainwashed into smelling her own feet
nice
imagine if she just does that from now on, without thinking about how weird it is. she'll just be sitting there with her friends or something and then suddenly she decides to smell her feet and then acts like her friends are weird for thinking she's weird

>>11284159
I love seeing Darkness stuff. Knowing she'd love every /d/ situation makes every piece with her better.

>>11287655
... and then?

>>11287988
They have sex and start dating. Also Nishi (black hair) is futa in it.
https://exhentai.org/g/2850205/ba1dee60f7/

>>11286379
There's that doujin where the whole trio + Yunyn gets hypnotized, except Darkness is unaffected, but she still plays along with it and pretends it worked. Funny

>>11287997
Context from that image?

>>11288037
Suggest just reading it; https://exhentai.org/g/1670720/ee9b27b5f1/
But, that was last page and thus spoiler of the twist, but up until the end it's from the traps perspective. It's a revenge on bully scenario. Enamoto (The trap) was hypnotized into thinking he likes Koyama and has 'hypnotized Koyama into liking him back'.

>>11279798
The first is pretty obviously a bad idea. Like the other guy said, Code Geass (and things like genie legends and the Monkey's Paw well before that) highlight how non-specific language can be leading to you not getting what you want. Something like "You will obey every direct command I give you" instead would work better, but the second option gives you someone able to apply reasoning, their own ingenuity, and provide help even when you don't ask for it instead, which is going to be a way better result unless you absolutely must have a blank mind slave. Definitely option 2 for me.

>>11273438
>Nano-control
I crave more games like that where I can fiddle more with subject's personalities in more specific ways. Seeing how the endings/the scenes change when the girl's personality/state changed is satisfying. Like how the school ending went from one of the girl's taking charge of the school to being a slave academy or how the mothers went from concerned of their daughter's well being to "idc ruin that bitch so ill have monopoly over master's cock"

No offense, but I'm not a fan of the typical hypno trinkets, like magic cellphones or swinging watches. For me, the good stuff is something in the air, like a fog or a bell, or something subtle.

>>11290340
thats very specific dont think theres many games that fits since most hypno games are made by those who think its just instant sex

>>11290340
I wouldn't mind if someone polished nano-control more too. The game is grindy and it was easy to break some of the quest triggers forcing me to redo content. I'd like to replay it but I dread dealing with those parts.

>>11292950
You know there's cheats right? If you click on the space next to the "review" book, you can add points to any character, letting you jump from 1 scene to the next.

Artist: close rim open

>>11295373

Anyone know where the english translation of the one where the girl gets hypnotised and impregnated on her birthday went? I can't find it on any site anymore; it's one of those common sense modification ones.

>>11296674
Unhappy Birthday by kakunini, it's a fakku one, so just search for it on schale.network.

>>11292950
if you do replay it, try Nano-Control+ . It adds a lot of content
https://ncplus.xyz/

>>11280192

Hard to find but my favorite is when she keeps saying whatever she was talking about but meanwhile she's starting to do it anyway, like it's her idea and the most normal thing in the world.

There's an old video that used to get posted on /gif/ where a girl is explaining why it's totally inappropriate to ask a random girl for a bj, especially a feminist like her, and meanwhile she's dropped to her knees and matter of factly unzips his pants and starts blowing him, still talking between gulps about how she's not into doing that. Total unconscious obedience.

>>11296834
kakunini's stuff are so good i wish there's more

Does anyone have that pic about the different types of hypnosis?

>>11298511
This one?

>>11298612
Not quite. The one I'm thinking of was drawn doujin style, and the types were more like “fully aware but no control”, “sleepwalker”, “awake but thinks it's normal” or something to that effect.

>>11298511
This classic one?

>>11299402
4th, definitely.

>>11299402
1, 2, and 3 are all fine with tweaks. Especially 3 and 4, personality changes are fun

>>11288060
With all the hypno/mind control app doujins you'd think there would be mockup stuff for phones or vr headsets to play out these scenarios

>>11299402
there's too much 2, not enough 1 & 3, especially 3

>>11303304
Yes, three is nice

>>11299402
1 a best. 2's good if you do it right.

>>11303304
>>11303652
anyone gone good recs for this?

>>11285759
Not a single parent in the 90s was prepared for the fetish killshot that ugly-ass snake was about to inflict on their pre-teens. Truly the Millennials' Willy Wonka blueberry inflation.

>>11303800
>90s
>Millenial
The Jungle Book came out in 1967

>>11300373
I mean you can just put a hypno video on either

>>11303813
True. But I get the feeling in-home VHS was a turning point of mass exposure.

>>11303817
thats probably accurate

>>11303817
Yeah I think you're onto something
I think charm effects in video games probably also did a number on the generation

For the Grizzly bro in the thread

>>11307964

>>11307964
>>11307966
Based

>>11311026

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>>11311028
Whatever happened to this artist? I used to see their stuff all the time and they just disappeared.

>>11308051
Sauce on this? No reverse image results

>>11311492
eljimadooor on twitter.

>>11311511
giwtwm with the switch 2

Why are male subjects so rare in art but the overwhelming majority irl

>>11311434
I think they got bullied off the internet because they drew a bunch of Gravity Falls underage incest porn

Or maybe that was someone else idk

>>11311028
She looks like she likes it even in her normal state. Hypnotizing her seems unnecessary.

>>11313291
Because this fetish is mostly about nonconsensual hypnosis which doesn't exist irl.

>>11313981
Hypnosis makes it more fun

>>11313982
Yeah but people roleplay it pretty much constantly

>>11313291
GIWTWM

>>11313981
A decent number of women seem to fetishise being raped, controlled, and forced into submission; if women's smut is anything to go off.

>>11314376

>>11314376
It's literally like that, really strange although well that's better than those who like yaoi holy shit

>>11314376
Not even limited to smut, I've tried reading popular Shoujo manga and end up dropping them because of all the rape and classmates "bullying" (sexual assault, assault, blackmail, attempted murder) the protagonist is subjected to. It's pretty insane this kind of shit is so commonplace is fiction supposedly targeted at teenage girls.
Also every Josei love interest seems to be an asshole on par with a manhau protagonist, who spends the whole time abusing the female protagonist to the point I have to assume she's suffering Stockholm syndrome.

>>11314376
Its the same with guys desu, although less common. Its a pretty common fantasy to have someone (who you find attractive) force you into a sexual situation (when you are okay with it). I think it often comes from the association of swzuality with guilt--if you're forced, you don't have a choice. I'm still a good girl/boy, its not my fault :^).

There probably is a biological factor, but I also think there's a societal pressure on women to be pure and virginal and "protect" themselves from sexuality, so the virtues of a situation where they are still putting up that protection and doing what's expected but they still get to experience pleasure and satisfaction are obvious. The fantasies most often are about something that feels good, not *usually* about getting beaten and bloodied or being unconscious for it (though there are some crazy chicks out there)

This is a big part of the draw of hypnosis (at least for people like me) as both dom and sub, I think. Men are often taught and shown their sexuality is a sin in a different way, that its something they attack women with, that their desires are an evil influence on their behavior. Mind control sidesteps that--if you're controlling her mind, you know for a fact she is enjoying it. If you are being controlled, its out of your hands, you're not at fault. And, once again, you know she wants it.

>>11314850
>swzuality
Hell of a typo. Sexuality.

>>11311434
>>11313293
They're making games at an extremely slow pace now.

>>11317208
Updated version from the same guy

>>11317210
i need me some 5 reccs

Now we need Grizzly...
>aysro

>>11305795
Alright what's the source? Yandex was no help.

>>11313291
>the overwhelming majority irl
They're not. Hypnosis is meant to be used on females only. You're referring to gays, irl hypnosis that's straight is used on females.

>>11319250
Gee I wonder

>>11319253
If you think the majority of subs aren't men I just cannot believe you spend a lot of time in hypno fetish spaces

Does anyone of resources about how to hypnotize someone (willing) irl?

>>11320699
mesmerotic has a great video going over the process on their youtube channel! it's called "erotic hypnosis for total beginners."

>>11320878
Thanks anon, just got through this, that really was an incredibly solid intro
I'm left wanting more, but they do namedrop other resources near the end so I'll pursue that

>>11314376
>>11314405
It's fucked up, but it makes sense from an evolutionary psychology perspective. In the same way that people with a fear of the dark outcompeted people without it due to dying to predators eventually leads to the propagation of that fear, women getting turned on by getting raped results in more successful offspring from the woman, resulting in the propagation of the kink. In the timeframe of evolutionary biology, society and laws surrounding this are a reletively recent invention, and our innate instinctual behavior hasn't caught up yet.

>>11322920
that's probably why hypnosis works so easy on women
It works alongside their own subconscious

>>11322926

>>11322877
>suck and fuck
heh

Everyone talks about the sex part of mind control. But honestly, don't you like the safety and comfort of having a girl under your control? I come home too tired from work, and I would love a back massage, some warm food, and someone to literally bathe me while I sit on a stool. And then, when you wake up energized, you can just abuse her however you want, talk about anything you want, feel no shame, no risk of being left behind. It's also about feeling more complete, as if you've grown; you have an extension of yourself, a new set of limbs to carry your will.

>>11323341
fair enough.
having a hypno maids who can cook for would probably make anyone less lonely.
True you could abuse her but also use her as an extension of you.
Interesting concepts.

>>11322926
It's true, if you look closely at the doujinshis of hypnosis in men it is very scarce, I prefer it that way, it is very rare to see the inverse case of this, I suppose that is why they try to censor it on platforms like (Fanbox, DLSite) lol

>>11323804

>>11323807

>>11324747

Going to share these:

Hypno Quest:
https://infiniteworlds.app/#pLwFEU

Digital Demon:
https://infiniteworlds.app/#HTmFHr

>>11328083
You're pretty cruel, that site gives like 3 free prompts then demands money

>>11313291
yeah, I wish, how would I get a hypnogf, I want one. I would let her take my mind and let her control me tottaly and completly. I would let me make me eat her out for hours whenever she wanted, I would let her make me obssed with her, I would let her own me. too bad woman dont actually want this

>>11313981
Anon. That's the point. That gif is consensual nonconsent. She clearly let her boyfriend hypnotize her, and when she snaps out of it, she's delighted to realize how he used it because they already love each other.

I'm seriously considering buying a hypno session, just so I can experience being tranced 1-on 1 at least one time in my life. I'm really scared I'll either get addicted to it or fall in love with the tist though >:

>>11330881
You kidding? Do you think women are these nice angels who like to be controlled? They are the most manipulative and controlling creatures on this earth. If you get any girlfriend you have a high likelihood to be her pussy slave. And if that doesn't satisfy you, install Instagram on her phone, and comparisons and advanced enslavement will progress quite fast.

>>11298511
This one?

>>11333034
DESU, it's best when the eyes still look normal after the hypnosis, it makes it seem more like the hypnosis has ingrained itself into the person as a whole, rather than just an effect that the person is under temporarily

>>11333103
bro i did not know 4chan still had fuckin word filters, i been on this site for 13 years and that hasnt happened to me before

>>11333105
DESU you are retarded.

>>11333034
I nedd more of the scenario in 2
Hypnotizing a girl into recruiting other girls is hot as fuck

>>11333659

>>11333667

>>11333287

>>11270193
Anyone has more games on mind control to suggest?

>>11334532
Going deeper is a dungeon crawler where you play as clairvoyant support for 3 knights as they descend into a dungeon that corrupts them as they go. You get to hypnotize them to try and direct how the corruption effects them and how deeply they give in to it's perverse inspiration. All of this is reflected in skills, stats, and status effects.

>>11313291
Same reason why NTR is extremely common while reverse NTR (girl steals guy from another girl) is rare.
We leave in a gay, lame, and cringe world.

>>11314850
>there's a societal pressure on women to be pure and virginal and "protect" themselves from sexuality
Ah, a fellow yeoman. How do you do on this nice summer day of anno domini 1525?

>>11335403
Putting western society aside, pretty sure it still applies to various other cultures (like most of asia & the middle east).

>>11334532
Accidental Mind, Hentai University, College Daze, Noblemans Retort (RJ164217), Absolute Power Corruption, Nano Control, Hypnosis (Expanding Universe Games), Corrupted Kingdom, Heroic Princess Millia (RJ295831), The Hypno Pencil (RJ01084354)

Is it just me, or is mind control as a fetish becoming widely hated in English-speaking communities? Even on ehentai, I'm noticing a lot of new works with decent quality getting ambushed by what I assume are 0.5-star ratings. The only saving grace for these works is if they are either furry or gender-bend.

>>11338535
most stuff i've seen with stupidly low ratings are awful machine translations with little to no effort put into cleaning them, and such ratings are well deserved

>>11338535
Every gallery gets low ratings initially from idiots who don't use tag highlighting and search filters thus see things they don't like.

>>11313982
that... what? what does that have to do with his question? hypnotizing males in this manner is just as impossible as females

>>11313291
>male subjects the majority IRL
>Source: pic related
I think you need to get off pornhub and realize that a flood of shittily made sissy hypno videos does NOT mean the majority of hypnosis enjoyers are sub males

>>11333659
>doesn't show her licking his feet
sad

>>11338535
>English-speaking communities
Those ratings are probably due to the AI translations, poor scans, etc. Some hypnosis/mind control sub-fetishes like Haigure get a lot of "wtf is this, 0.5 stars", but that's an extreme example I guess. Hypnosis/mind control also doesn't have amazingly great art quality, I'll be the first to admit.

I'll also put this forward as something I dislike though, or that annoys me even though I know its no one's fault.
I'll be honest, western-style hypnosis that english-speaking communities tends to focus on, to me, is incredibly one-note, boring or off-putting, rarely though they come out with something good. English-speaking communities that talk about stuff that originates in Japan (outside of Pokemon, I guess) are near non-existent outside of e/xhentai and specific 4chan threads.
Example, I don't think I've ever seen someone talk about Henkoraodora in english, I don't think I've really seen specific discussion about any mind control in japanese offfical works, hell I barely see much talk about big Japanese games/anime that have the tropes stuff in them when it comes to English-speaking communities.
The reality is that even on /d/, these threads don't really discuss more "out there" hypnosis/mind control stuff and they stick to the kaa-eyes, they stick to the pendulum, they stick usually to Pokemon, post western art, talk about IRL hypnosis, etc. Again, not /d/'s fault when you realize most people are english speakers who use english social media and don't see Japanese art outside of boorus and doujinshi. And Doujinshi that go more obscure simply can't support their artists, aren't worth it, or they're not scanned.

I always feel so lonely in these threads. I feel like they're always full of submissive male fuckboys who want to get mind mindraped. Is there no place for poor old me, the sadistic sociopathic male who wants to cuckold and humiliate others? Where my fellow doms at, sound off.

>>11340956
Sadistic male dom that crossposts in the slavery, patriarchy, monster vore, and several other generals, sounding off.