Classic World Building Questions:
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?

Questions for Masters/Mistresses:
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?
>3) Would you train slaves with a history before enslavement, like friends, lovers, enemies, etc?
>4) What general feelings would you want your slaves to have towards each other? Competition? Jealously? Hierarchical obedience? Affection? Partnership?

Questions for slaves:
>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?
>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.
>4) What training will you be put through?

Questions for Switches:
>1) Are your Master and slave fantasies always separate, or do you like to imagine role reversals?
>2) Are there differences in how you would treat your slave(s) vs. how you imagine being treated as a slave?

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>>11296077 (OP)
bravo and checked

Favorite setting: Medieval Fantasy, Cyberpunk or something else?

>>11296082
>Favorite setting: Medieval Fantasy
medieval fantasy for sure
with wizards, goblins, bandits, and slave harems

>be a slave
>be free
>life is hard
>find Master
>life is Master now
>never be free ever again
>life is still hard
>but meant for a slave
>maybe cry 80% of how I used to
>he forces me to carry a therapy boulder sometimes
>life is correct
>be a slave

>>11296082
I still wonder if being a long time fan of Fallout is in any way related to instantly loving the largest metal slave collar ive seen.

Honestly post apocalyptic settings lend themselves well to this sort of thing. Life is hard, you think you're going to survive out there? Just do as we tell you and you'll at least get gruel.

>>11296077 (OP)
Alright, /d/. Got a question for you.
What are your overall thoughts on permanent bondage? As in no escape, no second chances, and no mercy. The slave is completely encased in restraints and will be staying that way for good.
>why would a slave of yours end up with this fate?
>how common would it be in your setting?
>what kind of bondage would they be kept in?
>does anything of note happen after you finish locking them up and leave the room?

>>11296088
>Honestly post apocalyptic settings lend themselves well to this sort of thing.
cherry-gig had a really good series about this, they kinda dropped off on updating it though
one piece also has exploding slave collars and a really hot slavery system too

>>11296093
Zero chance i'd ever do that, as detailed in the last thread its a last resort and then there would be a second chance eventually, but lets indulge the horny idea for a second.

The whole goal would be to instill fear, but for the greatest crimes. Which for me is attacking other slaves or hurting herself. Trying to kill Master doesn't actually matter that much, I can handle completely powerless horny dipshits, but their fellow powerless horny dipshits can't.

That one in the last thread about having to upkeep their failed sister and even forced to have one on one time with her is the best idea of this. Can't think of too much to add. Maybe something to do with broadcasting to a wider audience, but if your slave is even allowed to watch TV then she's got a softer life than most.

>>11296094
Oh is that why I see that weird brand on a lot of slavery artwork? Never seen one piece. Honestly if I liked anime beyond just being a fantastic art style for the devils jpegs I would probably like medieval fantasy way more, I have no idea why isekai stuff just adapted BDSM erotica themes 1:1 but sure. Im a nice slave owner, I care about their feelings.

Also wonder what the origin is for the exploding slave collars. Fallout 3 in 2008 is obviously way too recent, knowing these things there's probably some sci fi novel in 1937 that is mostly about the authors weird sexual frustrations and not what he claims the novel is about which is the first instance of that.

>>11296097
Didn't Star Wars Episode 1 mention something about slaves exploding as well if they tried to escape? Though I think it was a microchip in their brains or something. So that's 1999.
Though I'm sure there are way older sources for that stuff as well. 80's especially had a boner for future dystopia scenarios.

>>11296100
Seeing a lot of The Running Man, the classic of one of those, even had arnie. I don't think Ive seen it, but I enjoy when future dystopia's take place in the dark future of the late 2010s. This gets to join Akira.

The idea especially since I saw it in Fallout first seemed flawed for keeping a personal slave, if only because of wasteland-grade tech. I like that they look like they're never coming off, that might cause problems with rust over years in the shower but we probably don't have hygiene in the wastes, no instead it's more that these will probably just go off at random because even if they weren't explicitly 200 years old in the lore then the wasteland will make them work that badly.

If your favourite toil bitch dies because whatever 200 year old explosive went wonky then that's going to be sad. Its going to be even sadder if it goes off while she's deep down on your cock 4 times a day. Personally I would just take the explosive material out, put them into actual weapons, and just tell the slaves that never happened. They'll still be scared.

Much like this classic image. Even if she doesn't know what semtex is, she knows what a hand grenade is, for safety reasons they're inert but for entertainment and obedience reasons she doesn't know that.

>>11296086
Lots of potential for sure. I love the idea of some undefeated veteran guild member/adventurer just disappearing one day. Only to be found years later by one of her friends by pure chance, broken in and submissively sucking on her Master's cock with her new ¨friends¨ in some faraway rural town.

>>11296097
>Oh is that why I see that weird brand on a lot of slavery artwork?
Yes, it's the brand of the celestial dragons, they basically run the world. It's supposed to look like a dragon's talon/foot. Basically they can decide to enslave anyone for any reason, and it occurs a few times within the story. There are also human auction houses, where slaves are auctioned openly. Some great slavery worldbuilding.

>>11296135
>Had a fantastic time adventuring alongside a famed warrior
>Never seen her crack, even for a second, cut down her enemies without fear
>I guess she moved on to some other place where we couldn't slow her down
>1v1ing dragons or something
>Wait what?
>She's...You found her?
>Hold on where? Lets go and see!

The closest you've ever seen to fear in her is a quick glance your way before she returns to happily cleaning the boots of some weird wizard while a more favoured girl gets to have her head a bit higher. Bonus points if the magic wasn't that powerful at all, she just finally had a excuse.

(I know its canonical that the cat people in this jrpg have a welsh accent but she's going to be so mad when I force her to play it up way more since I almost laughed reading picrel)

>>11296136
Huh. There's like 3000 episodes of one piece, hope some people in the target demo see slave girls for the first time and just really need to look at it a few times to see what they're looking at. I know I did.

Being randomly enslaved by living gods has got to be some cosmic sign that no, you are meant to be a slave, get on your knees. Hard to argue with that.

>>11296135
yeah I love the defeated adventurer trope
especially when she has a flash of recognition that her old friends have seen her, maybe her heart skips a beat, but she's been trained too many times and knows she better not stop sucking

>>11296097
>That one in the last thread about having to upkeep their failed sister and even forced to have one on one time with her is the best idea of this
Glad you liked that idea too. You also mentioned you'd interrogate all the slaves you order to spend time with her. I didn't really get that part, could you elaborate?

>>11296140
>Huh. There's like 3000 episodes of one piece, hope some people in the target demo see slave girls for the first time and just really need to look at it a few times to see what they're looking at. I know I did.
i recommend the manga
any time a story has a scene like pic related i just get a feeling deep inside like i want that to happen to me

>>11296147
>Go into town for some things
>Alchemy reagants, power crystals, y'know the normal things
>slave can carry it back, but she has to kneel outside the door while I shop because they say she stinks so bad its probably some anti-magic curse
>Think they just have had slaves knock something over and blow up half the store before
>Come back out
>her eyes are filled with fear
>Immediately jumps up and grabs my bags
>I can tell its a man a little bit across the street
>Hm.
>Old friend?
>Want to go say hi? catch up? you aren't allowed to say no
>Needs a good hit from the crop to get moving, but she does

>>11296153
The primary idea is that I want to give her a second chance, even if I never told her. It would be roughly 20 years.

Interrogating the girls would be a attempt to figure out the mental state of that girl. Im really not sure if you even could, but there has to be something the girls can see, and the thoughts in their head are just as much my property as their ass.

Maybe she gets to try again at being a slave in 18 years. Maybe 23. It'll depend, not even sure what she could do to lessen or increase the sentence, taking it badly or taking it stoically can be read a lot of ways.

>>11296154
That's a good girl. You got like 400 of them, have good memories of staring at it just as intently as you do now?

There's like 111 volumes, I just looked it up. Wow, my teasing was not far off. Make sure to have every single one alongside a itemized list of every slavery plot line and how and why it makes you horny to show to any prospective Master who wants to rule over your life.

>>11296165
>Make sure to have every single one alongside a itemized list of every slavery plot line and how and why it makes you horny to show to any prospective Master who wants to rule over your life.
Oh don't worry, I remember them all and where I was when I saw them.

>>Immediately jumps up and grabs my bags
Also love the idea of being a pack slave, carrying goods for my master.

>>11296171
If I own slaves, why in the world would I ever carry something? My smartphone sure, maybe a drink, but im a person, im the one who makes use of the cargo those slaves carry.

Maybe a especially good girl could earn a sip of my drink, but honestly it'd be rare. A heavy amount of begging, putting on a real show, sure its fun to handfeed sometimes but that stuff isn't for them. Maybe if you really kneel and grovel and scream out for the entire world to hear about how this specific scene in the one piece manga is the most relatable to how horny you are in this moment I'd consider it.

Slaves should be kept busy with hard labor, erecting great works and monuments to their master.

>>11296184
why would i want master to carry anything when i need to work hard to please him?

from the moment i wake up until its time for bed i shouldnt even think about sitting down, not carrying something or even being given down time

>>11296082
Contemporary setting with a secret society of slavers that kidnap curious and gullible perverts through fetish shops and mail order bondage gear.

>>11296387
Well there's a fun little project to do on the side of my usual daily work; making a statue of my Master so that I have something to worship if he's gone for long and ordered me to stay home.

>>11296396
If you have downtime I expect you to kneel and look good until you don't.

There's only so much work to do around the house every day, no matter how much I make for you there'll still be a lot of time kneeling and looking up in worship.

>>11296464
slaves are property, they can't exactly own anything, but one of the few pieces of personal items I allow a slave is a portrait of me.

I can't be around them 24/7, even if I want to, and it will greatly upset them not having Master's light over their life literally in the room with them. If they're ever separated for even just a few hours, having a picture to worship really helps them.

Being worked nearly if not to death to build a giant statue of your God is the height of what your little mind believes, but to be responsible its good to scale it back to a little statuette you can place on a high shelf in His home and say your prayers and slave affirmations to.

"my life is Master, forever"

"Master knows best, i am but a tool for His will"

"even a thousand lifetimes of service is not enough to repay Master for giving this creature purpose"

>>11296453
that's the dream, isnt it

>a slave's prayer, non denominational, often quietly whispered to themselves by slaves during times of great internal pain

"please Master grant me but a fraction of Your strength, so that i may prove myself worthy of Your control

when i sleep on Your floors i dream of Your boots, Your cock, and Your life, all made better by my tireless service

no matter the pain, no matter the toil, i will prove Master correct in His judgment that i am worthy to serve Him until my life is at its end, and no earlier."

>Common among slave girls of the secular western canon. Variants of this basic structure exist for every gender, sexuality, culture, and planet.

>>11296184
i think about it like pic related, almost like a pony slave/petplay
mostly dehumanized, pack mule for transport

>>11296728
Ive seen that pic around here a lot. Usually around the idea of just never being anything more than a pack mule, which I usually say that slaves were cursed with being technically sentient so that they can be multi-purpose in their service, and your life is not about you, you don't get to just be a pack slave and nothing else.

Honestly though I can work with that idea. Sure, day to day when accompanying me outside you can serve normally. Walk a step behind, eyes downcast but trained on my lower half. Ready to take any objects you're handed instinctively, but no restraints or major restrictions since you are still meant to do whatever I tell you. You can kiss my boots while I sit on a park bench or start running laps for my entertainment, doesn't matter.

Instead, when doing something like grocery shopping a slave could be fully prepared for pack service. Hands tied up behind, a big pack on her back. Maybe a sister would actually put the items in, but it's not a big deal if its Master that loads you up. Not allowed to speak, or even have much expression, I lead you around on a short leash. Maybe a bit gag too but otherwise no, still not a fan of heavy restraints. Doing this in the real world would be such a -massive- step in public humiliation, which is why its not that big a deal that you are forced to wear some slave rag looking things ontop of it since people won't appreciate that you are a animal and don't deserve clothes.

If you have a sister she'd be the one to unload you, pack away everything, before converting you back to regular service. You'd stand there and just not do anything except stand straight and look forward as usual, even if you're upset Master has to unload you because you're the only one in service. Maybe some additional ritual to show gratitude for Master going out of his way to indulge you in how you really want to feel the fact that you're an animal, going to have to be more than bootlicking, be grateful.

>>11296387
For some reason your picrel is giving an implication that the redhead got isekaied.
Who knows what she used to be meeting truck-kun? But thanks to that one event, the slave who was once a promising young med student will spend the rest of her life, naked, in chains, and doing mind-numbing forced physical labor. Her mind will never be put to use.

>>11296808
The way I envision it, most slaves aren't allowed to simply roam freely. After all, society has to ensure that just any slave can't simply roam the streets unaccompanied without being apprehended. That privilege is reserved for slaves who have proven that they are suitable for the privilege, and have both intelligence and loyalty.
Of course, the rules wouldn't be binary. A slave like me could leave the home wearing appropriate restraints - a gag that prevents me from speaking intelligibly, a harness that completely immobilizes my arms, and leg shackles allowing 14 inches or less of movement.
A higher order slave in my household would have the privilege of guiding me while I am restrained thusly, walking me on a leash as I bear a large pack on my back. She does not have the keys to my restraints, not that she has any need of them.
She would do the speaking with any store staff and load me and unload me since she has access to her mouth and hands. I, on the other hand, must bear the increasing load in silence. It's not uncommon that these shopping trips take several hours, and sometimes I must be tied to a post outside, forced to stand outside an establishment that does not permit my entry while trying to ignore my heavy load. Instead, I fix my eyes forward and attempt to avoid moving at all. Too much eye motion could be construed as an attempt at nonverbal communication, after all.

>>11296810
>beg truck kun to bring me a life of eternal servitude
>i can't be myself in the real world
>yes finally i can serve my master forev-
>FUCK
>alright even being a cart pusher isn't the worst
>no more thinking ever again, yay!

>>11296822
A slave having intelligence is rare, you things have more than enough loyalty, but if you are being led by a trusted slave who is maybe 10% smarter than you then sure, you can have all the heavy restraints your servile little brain desires. Don't come complaining to me if its too much.

Having a 3 girl harem would be good for this. I would expect both of you to present yourselves to me ready for equal service again when you're done, only had one nude body that obeys my every command in the mean time. but that slightly more intelligent slave has her work cut out for her.

Keep her communications with the staff short and respectful. Don't let the fact she is technically holding a slave's leash ever go to her head. She needs to make sure you are fulfilling your duties without being dominant in any way. Raising her voice, hitting you, anything, if I know that she did that you are both having your collars attached by a few inches of chain for the next few days. Second offence would be chained together in the hole.

It'd be hard on the little slave. Having responsibility, but then she is cursed with having the sharpest mind. I'm sure you can figure out how to bear a heavy load however, even if you can't stop yourself from looking at people you know what pain you will endure to help you understand.

When outside without Master's oversight all the same speech restrictions still apply, especially with how good you have to be for even me to trust you alone. Don't speak unless spoken to, if you must make sure to ask permission and only speak after being granted it. Short, effective, respectful communication. Never speak to a slave, only its overseer, unless you cannot find them.

>>11296093
>why would a slave of yours end up with this fate?
If a master wants to make an example of a slave, or if they just find the idea particularly appealing so they just make an example of her.
>how common would it be in your setting?
It was initially less common, but over time people have become more sadistic, so about 2% of all existing slaves are in permanent bondage.
>what kind of bondage would they be kept in?
Slaves are kept in life-support pod systems with a wide arrange of sensitivity modifiers, torture and pleasure tools, cameras and trackers, ect. Slaves are shown whatever imagery or given whatever audio the master wants, and the pods have various drugs that can help for things like time dilation and increased pain sensitivity.
>does anything of note happen after you finish locking them up and leave the room?
It is common for the master to set up a viewing room to watch the slave, and to let other slaves make decisions with the settings on how to torture her. Some poor slaves end up with extreme time dilation, such that seconds feel like years, an effectively endless torture (which is just something that pleases the sadistic whims of masters even more).

>>11296900
Wow its the really horrific torture now. High chance a slave wrote this.

The idea of a viewing room where slaves make decisions on their former sisters torture is a fun idea. I'd have mine come to a decision together, but then they'd have to put on a performance begging for it. Even when I am going to do something for a slave they still have to really beg for it just to really show that they appreciate me indulging them.

The one who looks at the screens with the greatest intensity is also the one who looks flat out excited when I break out the choking during manhandling. Some of them are just like that.

>>11296728
Being a pack mule really would be just the best; when even the other slaves that see or interract with me consider me more a kin to a dumb animal or mindless tool running around, just tirelessly doing it's simple repetitive errands. No questions asked (anymore), I'm just following orders now.

>>11297959
I have a fantasy where I see a dog off-leash at the park and wonder why I have less privileges than a dog.

>>11297959
Still a big believer in multi-role slaves, but there's a reason why if a slave is in a harem, it's highly likely its the same girl selected for pack service every single time.

Some things are just bottom bitches even to other bottom bitches. It suits them.

>>11298068
Im not as into leashes but then maybe I should be. Who in their right mind would let a slave outside and not have it be leashed?

slaves are so, so much lower than animals. I'm far kinder to dogs than slaves. Even letting her out in the backyard it still isn't a great idea to have anything other than a short leash. Since they can get in all kinds of trouble they should only be maximum 3 steps away from Master. Maybe one day a slave could prove that she can do work for me outside merely under my gaze but until then it's best she's never out of manhandling range.

>>11297959
>>11298068
i have a fantasy where i pull master's carriage into town and he leaves me tied to a post while he shops. my old friends and co-workers see me tied up and try to talk to me, but all i can do is droll into my gag and moan. a few pet me or cop a feel and they take pictures before leaving me alone.

>>11298254
>Relaxing with my slave one day
>Get a text from her old friends from her pretending to be human days
>"You still calling this thing assmeat? She's gotten so expressive in other areas!"
>Attached selfies posing with my slave while she's absolutely filled with tears
>My slave was noticeably shaken after pulling me home yesterday, now I know why
>Really glad I made amends with her old friends
>She's just quietly kneeling under my desk and has no idea of what's currently on that black rectangle the people she serves like to look at.

Yeah that's the height of consensual slavery right there. Master not only took your freedom from you but also your close friends. Tried His hardest to help them be okay with what you really are, hopefully all of them kept in touch.

>>11296077 (OP)
We had two good threads a while back about "powerful swordswoman is taken down unfairly, like by poison or when she's asleep, enslaved, and seethes but can't escape." What are some good ways to make her extra seethe?

>>11296093
A variation on permanent bondage: Changing the slave's restraints and position regularly while never leaving her free.
>why would a slave of yours end up with this fate?
Bottom-ranked bitchslave in the harem, tied up so the other slaves can use her as a stress toy.
She may or may not be the former head slave who got a bit too smug about her position.
>how common would it be in your setting?
Average of one per harem. Depending how sadistic the owner is.
>what kind of bondage would they be kept in?
Hogtied / suspended from the ceiling / tied to a bed. Anything that leaves her unable to move around on her own.
Sometimes put in a position where she can do some basic exercise to keep her healthy.
>does anything of note happen after you finish locking them up and leave the room?
The other slaves pounce on her like hungry wolves.

>>11298254
Always keep your ponygirl in the dark so she responds to directions without a thought towards her own safety or wants.

>>11296077 (OP)
Does anyone have this ancient grentext of a galactic slave auction that describes four girls you can purchase?

>>11298997
Ive seen you post this before, I appreciate having a white whale actually.

The dumb threadbitch didn't include archive links, I found this in my history, I assume she was drooling more than usual that day: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/subject/Slavery/page/1/

It'd be a good idea to try and remember when you saw that to narrow down the search. Im not great with the exact year either but if you can put it to like between 2016 and 2020 then 2016 is on the earlier end of where the archive becomes more compelte, and you can narrow it down more than having to do it the hard way of going post by post throughout the years for many hours.

There was a pastebin link on earlier threads, although it seemed to have been caught up in a porn purge in 2023: https://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr

That actually does mean that there might be a archive of it somewhere. Stuff like the waybackmachine might have got it, you'd need to to paste that link in there I think but ive not done that much internet archaeology.

Desuarchive is also one archive of many it seems. Honestly I lurked these threads for multiple centuries, good to go back and unlock core memories even if I only started posting relatively recently. Can even properly take some pictures from there that stick out since I have a bad habit of reusing existing supply.

This one is especially good as communicating both sex and power. Yeah that's great.

>>11298405
>What are some good ways to make her extra seethe?
Turning her armour into restraints is an eternal classic.

Since ponygirls are popular lately, put her in ponygirl gear on a near permanent basis. Her arms are reduced to being attachment points for restraints and she has no control over her own body. Every meal is eaten from master's hand, and she's cleaned every night with a garden hose.

Forbid her from speaking, even to other slaves, and punish her for every word she says when she does inevitably break that rule.
>Goes on a rant about how she'll never break? Count the words, and whip her for all of them.
>She says "oh god" while she's cumming? Whipped.
>She tries to convince the other slaves that they should have rights? Save her from the yandere's rage, and then she gets whipped.
>She says "shit" when she trips? Whipped.
>She says "fuck" while she's being whipped? She gets whipped for that too.
Ideally this ends up with her communicating mostly with aahs and mmhs.

>>11299069
I like the idea of eventually becoming so trained and docile in this scenario, that it takes me a while to even realize that I'm actually supposed to speak on the extremely rare occasion when Master bothers to talk to me or ask me something.

>>11299069
Oh I keep forgetting about having a way more fucked up yandere in the harem compared to other girls. She would for sure eat those seething girls alive.

I do forbid swear words among slaves, the yandere would probably be absolutely flawless at that, but if this seething warrior thing not only doesn't look at her Master with the adoration and worship He deserves, but starts using that mouth Master gave her to spread lies about how He is anything other than completely right in ruling over every second of their lives?

Only time she's ever sweared since being enslaved would be yelling "Rot in hell you fucking bitch" before immediately attacking that seether. Have to pull her off literally within a second because she is -serious-.

Imagine being way more afraid of one of your sisters than even your Master you hate with such a fury. Especially when you notice stuff like she is never left alone with other slaves, or even sentenced to isolation punishment in the same hole as her sisters.

Still that multi-role, not even that much restraints anon, but having Master's words that he will protect you so long as you serve actually mean it when the stable you live in only gets cleaned by the yandere when I am directly overseeing her is a level of misery that is just delightful to see a slave realize is possible.

>>11298997
PAGING GALACTIC SLAVE TRADER ANON
>>11298997

Pretty positive this is what you're talking about. Was browsing the archive and someone even brought it up in the halcyon days of december 2017, prior to the latest stage of escalation in the finno-korean hyperwar.

As with all slave auction greentexts you have to give your thoughts on the best girl, and I am on team #1.

A lot of slaves probably identify a lot with #2, but it's such a pure demonstration of Mastery to take a girl who knows what a life of slavery is, is completely terrified, and help her understand what she is meant for.

Also just because you aren't allowed to wear clothes or sit or furniture ever again doesn't mean I won't just crouch down to where you are on my floors to hug and comfort you. A slave ugly crying into her Masters chest, naked on His floors, while Master bridges their two worlds by showing such kindness is a powerful image for a reason.

>>11296093
Permanent bondage is already terrible, so let's not hold back, shall we?
If they're subjected to this fate, then it must mean they have no more uses as individuals, but rather as organic fleshbags. So let's use them as such.
Mass breeding farms, milk producers, public toilets, fuckstops, human furniture, fleshlights, organ harvesters, mana generators in fantasy and bio-processors in sci-fi setting.
> Why would a slave end up with this fate
Bcs they were born so, or have no other uses. Probably means either they were sub-standard, designed to be so from birth, used as example for other slaves, or were too old, thus their beauties withering.
> How common
Second most numerous type of slave, only behind menial laborers, due to the industrial nature of the operations.
> What kind of bondage would they be kept in
Functional, enough to restrain them as they serve their roles.
>does anything of note happen after you finish locking them up and leave the room?
Life goes on as they join hundreds of their peers. Maybe once in a while I relieve stress in a fuckstop that's still tight or piss in a toilet's mouth.

I wish I could just be someones fuckslut. Someone's little slave, they use me when they want and give me the bare minimum. I wish I could just exist as someone's little fuck pussy, using me whenever they want. If they like they may bind me, tattoo me, or hurt me. Hell, they could murder me if they get off to it. I just need to be used for someones joy. No concerns of life nor wants. Just a life full of pleasing my master. This is my fantasy. This is my need.

>>11299183
Hey my girls having a mental breakdown. I get it.

Take off your clothes and kneel with your face pushed into one of the corner walls of your bathroom. Do it for 5 minutes because a dominant internet stranger told you to and come back. You'll be fine.

Honestly so much of BDSM is riding on the line of what makes you uncomfortable. The greatest crime for me is a slave hurting herself or her sisters, but yandere there is a way to use that for good. bio-mechanical slave tools is body horror made manifest, but I'd just happily headpat a slave if she detailed how that makes her happier than growing old and not being as useful.

If a slave told me she would gladly die by my hand so long as it was truly mine and she just wants to be nothing but a better persons tool then I appreciate her for her honesty in not even pretending she's normal. If a Master believes his slave is normal and not weird then she must be a genius at hiding who she is, anyone who is truly a slave is completely fucking neurotic, its why they need a Master's order over their entire existence.

>>11299083
Choose your words carefully, you're still getting punished for each word.
(You're just going to be punished even more if you don't fully answer my questions.)

>>11299089
Some girls, even the yandere, just keep forgetting the most important rule:
Don't break Master's stuff.
>>11299183
You are stuff.

>>11299408
Think about a machine, like a dishwasher. A average person would still try to upkeep it, it washes your dishes so you don't have to.

Washing dishes is but 5% of what a slave does for people. It's why you don't just dispose of them when they're showing why they aren't human, not even close. slaves are things, just well valued things.

I especially love those yandere freaks. slaves need to be slaves, its not really a fantasy, but especially so for yanderes. That level of obsession and worship, where even Master raising His voice at you is enough for you to wish He would dispose of you for not being a completely perfect slave like He deserves? Its perfect slave values. The best kind of emotional bond, recognizing that complete dependence is what this creature really needs, and what I want from a lifelong servant.

>>11299296
"Heads I win, Tails you lose" is a great principle to use with slaves too. No matter what they do, their life isn't fair.

Maybe not do it if you're actually interrogating a slave for something you need to know, but its fantastic for demonstrating exactly how she has zero rights except what I give her. Whatever she does, she still gets pain and misery, just exactly how much is up to who owns her and nothing else.

>>11299120
option 3 thats me

>>11299656
>Maybe not do it if you're actually interrogating a slave for something you need to know, but its fantastic for demonstrating exactly how she has zero rights except what I give her. Whatever she does, she still gets pain and misery, just exactly how much is up to who owns her and nothing else.
It's more about making sure the little idiot gets to the fucking point instead of tripping over her own words for 15 minutes.
And I don't want to confuse her tiny brain by changing the rules.
If she tells me something important/worthwhile she'll get a treat.

>>11299023
>There was a pastebin link on earlier threads, although it seemed to have been caught up in a porn purge in 2023: https://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr
>That actually does mean that there might be a archive of it somewhere. Stuff like the waybackmachine might have got it, you'd need to to paste that link in there I think but ive not done that much internet archaeology.
I found it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180910141731/http://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr

>>11299893
>https://web.archive.org/web/20180910141731/http://pastebin.com/ir1QM5sr
Ah shit that takes me back.

>>11299835
Really? Wouldn't have expected that. You one of those brats?

They are cheaper. You do realize that no matter how much defiance you have, you cannot resist it being brainwashed out of you? I like when paperwork for slaves notes down "last time bratted", and it was several years ago. A great demonstration of power.

>>11299893
You'd be surprised how much slaves will do not only for a little crumb of human food, but especially something like a little bite of chocolate.

Poor things. Deep down they know they are technically the same species as us.

>I found it
Hah my internet archaeologist instincts were right.

I think that internet archive thing will work for a lot of things, so long as it was on the open internet for long enough.

>>11299921
>You do realize that no matter how much defiance you have, you cannot resist it being brainwashed out of you?
i'd like to hear how you think that would work
you've only ever had slaves that already wanted to be one

>>11299935
Well you see, slaves live such a extreme lifestyle in so many ways, that no matter how cold and defiant you think you are in that tiny brain of yours, the extreme dehumanization will get to your heart eventually.

I'm the only affection you get. The end goal ls complete yandereification, but you understand just how that breaks you down? If one of my yanderes was in the room right now they would absolutely try to kill you for taking that tone with me. But its better when you serve someone who is looking out for you. I know you're just confused and really want to obey, it's why you're currently having your little mind explained to you instead of suffering the punches and kicks of a freeform beating for talking to me that way.

Just be a good girl for me, okay? It's a much better deal to make Master happy and be as happy as a slave can really be than be defiant and pile on that extra misery to your little existence. You understand the consequences for making such a poor choice.

>>11299935
There's nothing wrong with a little bit of brainwashing and some 24/7 automated obedience training, or ¨reprogramming¨ as Master jokingly called it. It helps you forget about all of that useless boring stuff, and focus on what's important and what we're here for.

>>11298068
>less privileges than a dog
that's one i really love, Master owning a dog (male) that He loves and treats much more than me
>When being trained to do party tricks on command, He always gives the reward treat to the dog first (assuming i'm lucky enough for Him to give me a treat at all)
>Dog is given much more freedom, i end up being locked in the dog cage far more than Master's dog
>Master's dog has a nice comfy basket to sleep in, i'm lucky to have some old blankets and maybe a pillow on the floor next to it
>Dog is largely unbound, but i have to be muzzled around the dog unsupervised as my heritage means im likely to eat the dog

>>11298254
Just friends? No past bullies writing "slut" or "flat whore" on your body, before taking the selfies with you like that to publish, even though you'll never be allowed online again to see it

>>11299083
ive actually done that irl, just assumed they were talking to somebody important, and had to apologise profusely for "ignoring" them at first

>>11299183
>He could murder me if they get off to it
i've been wondering about what it would be like to sleep naked in a washing machine or dishwasher (if that had a window to see inside), knowing that Master has to just push one button out of boredom, or curiosity, or aggression and that would be it.

>>11299199
>Take off your clothes and kneel with your face pushed into one of the corner walls of your bathroom. Do it for 5 minutes because a dominant internet stranger told you to and come back.
i wasn't even that slave, but humiliation on request is just too good to pass up. Not sure it helped, just make me yearn more for Sunday's release

>>11300033
>but i have to be muzzled around the dog unsupervised as my heritage means im likely to eat the dog
and what heritage is that...?

>>11300033
>horny about being muzzled around the dog due to being chinese

Ohh no you are not allowed to get off on being degraded that way. Best you can hope for is you accompany Master outside while he oversees you trying to chase down some birds. Put on some cat ears, nobody will know you are actually engaging in anti-sparrow action as part of a touching grass expedition. You are inferior for completely different reasons, flattie.

>Just friends? No past bullies writing "slut" or "flat whore" on your body, before taking the selfies with you like that to publish, even though you'll never be allowed online again to see it

You have no idea what the internet has become since you were enslaved and completely disconnected from the wider world.

For one my paperwork for you says you aren't allowed to become a AI chat bot. That's weird. If only it was just humiliating selfies, but there are hundreds of those, don't worry I made sure your old bullies could stay in touch.

>Washing machine murder
That actually does seem like a safer way to indulge in that...aspect of what a slave is. I can't even push the button on accident, since you do every single household chore.

If you're a freak who wants more humiliating tasks (I know the answer is yes to both) then I fully believe sleeping on the floor next to your pretend human bed the Saturday night before release on Sunday is a great way to show just how little agency you have that a internet stranger can make you do that.

Can make a little nest out of blankets if you need to. And naked obviously, I shouldn't have to clarify that but I know how dumb you bitches can get.

>slaves horny about racial humiliation
Gonna be real a lot of the ways a slave is just very weird will set off the people they serve in different ways, this is one of them for me. A slave only really has the value system of "slave", so they are well suited to that, but it is a Master's responsibility to reeducate them for their purpose of making peoples lives better.

I still think trying to meet a slaves weird fantasies in a healthy way is the best way to ensure proper compliance. Having a humiliating act be something that could be contextualized as something different to onlookers is a good move, although a direct reference to the four pests campaign isn't the best choice for a chinese slave. Will think on it more, good thing slaves don't think.

A good idea of where to go for that is something like if you have a swedish or a scandiwegian or something bitch and you just drive her out to the water occasionally. Throw her in, then tease her about "Oh, is the water not cold enough? Need some rival slaves on the other side of the lake to menace? Want some inland seas to paddle around in? If you're so fucking ungrateful I won't even bring you out in a bikini next time, slave."

More stuff like that, just hard to find specific things to tease slaves about that way. Best to not actually tell them what specifically you're teasing them about either, just call them dumb if they don't understand something that happened 1000 years ago.

Another thing slaves are terrified to admit to, also here, is dogs. Yeah no I don't care if you like it or not you aren't being forced to have sex with any animal. I don't think there's a good way to reeducate a slaves simple brain other than to brainwash that away completely.

I guess you can take solace in the fact than in real life I have a dog (female) (small) (anxiety) that you can see a lot of yourself in but also has way more rights than you. Has blankets, doesn't sleep on the floor, things I know you are better off not having.

I'm trying to think up ways on how to enslave a lich and how to keep it enslaved. Embed their phylactery into a collar or other type of cursed slave equipment is what I've thought up so far.

>>11298405
Accidentally using cursed equipment or some kind of forced class change to "slave", that drops her abilities and status by 99% of what they used to be is always hot. Famous S rank guild member getting defeated by random weak bandits after something like that is just the best.

>>11300199
>A good idea of where to go for that is something like if you have a swedish or a scandiwegian or something bitch and you just drive her out to the water occasionally. Throw her in, then tease her about "Oh, is the water not cold enough? Need some rival slaves on the other side of the lake to menace? Want some inland seas to paddle around in? If you're so fucking ungrateful I won't even bring you out in a bikini next time, slave."
you're such a nerd

>>11300698
Oh yes. Absolutely.

Humiliating slaves with nerd shit is the height of "no you actually do what Master tells you, no questions.". Like picrel slave outfit most people know, probably. Which is why you force her to memorize the 36 lessons of vivec to scream out whenever she's told.

I really doubt most slaves were the popular girls at school anyways.

This is what I imagine as the daily routine for slaves waiting to be sold in an auction house:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/47243095?view_adult=true

Just non-stop teasing to make them incoherently desperate when they finally go onto the block.

>>11296184
SIlly tangent, but reminds me of how the last Emperor of China was surrounded by servants ever since he was like three years old. Even after he underwent communist "rehabilitation" he sometimes still forgot to do simple things like closing water taps. because previously someone else had always done it for him.

>>11296822
Historical autism: Roman slaves were free-roaming. I don't have a good source on this, but I've heard multiple claims (one from seemingly credible magazine) that it was considered to issue a mandatory "slave-uniform." It was scrapped upon realization that it would make obvious to slaves how much of the population they made.

More on topic, what if a society has a very ironic sense of morality (or just is aware of slave labor economics) and only allows sexual slavery, not any kind of commercial usage (well maybe brothels could be an exception?)

This would make it more practical to essentially enforce "leash laws" on any slave taken outside/to the public.

>>11301101
That was neat. I don't usually like medical stuff, but the calm professionalism of those nurses where they did take minor pity on their subject. There was those screams of defiance met by indifference, not even the threats of torture, which mirrors a lot of how I treat slaves when they just don't understand what their place is.

The edging was nice. Gives me the idea of spacing out a slave's release for 3 months instead of the usual week, just at random. Edging her the entire time, albeit with her kneeling on the floor and just touching herself with her hands while I tower over her. She could be so overwhelmed and fail at any time.

There would be a lot more consequences than usual if you let me down.

>>11301101
That's my man Pu Yi, right? If I recall the plan was the same as the Romanov's, its a much better demonstration of your ideologies victory if you actually make these rich freaks be normal and be happy about tending a garden or something. I think history still isn't too sure on the exact specifics but for the Romanov's some overzealous soldiers got a bit freaked out about advancing white forces and just murked the royal family, although I can totally see them just saying that to a really pissed off high command after they planned to do it anyways.

The irony of myself wanting body slaves to the point where I never even touch a tap again isn't lost on me. Even the slaves I own tend to be way more normal than the people such monarchical systems produces though.

>only sex slave society
I can actually see something like that in a gender based society, albeit it would be far more likely in one that sees femininity similar to ours. Might be hard to get the really intense dehumanization otherwise.

slaves are seen as extensions of their Master's, who are the actual people that society is upkept by and for. They're there to comfort those that do the hard task of building civilization, as they themselves are barely useful for domestic service.

Comfy movie night with Master, yay!

>>11299069
Maybe it's just me thinking too much about it, but the only way I can enjoy this pony girl stuff is if the rider/master is much smaller than the girl; otherwise, it just looks silly.
Again, this is probably me overthinking it and being annoying.

>>11301341
Being a disposable nameless pony slave owned by a huge goblin tribe would be so hot.

>>11301344
Goblins, dwarves, kobolds, halflings...
As long as they are not the same size

>Sentence my slave to a 3 month release schedule, mostly for my own entertainment, not for any specific punishment
>She has to endure 1 hour of edging every single day
>Kneeling on the floor, staring up into my eyes
>Must touch herself until I tell her to stop, or I physically grab her hands away
>Usually shaking and in complete tears near the end, begging the entire time
>"Please Master you know I don't want to disobey you, please!"
>Have to give the order or physically pull her hands away many times per session
>"Master, please! I'll do anything! Just please let me cum Master!"
>Towards the end of the hour the true fear sets in, emotionally and physically exhausted
>"Please I will never willingly disobey Master please Master please let me stop"
>Sometimes drops her head away from my gaze, being so completely overwhelmed
>"Master!Pleaseletmestopletmestopletmestop!"
>Crouch down to be eye level with her
>Grab her by her hair, forcing her to meet my eyes
>"You will not let me down"

At the end of those 3 months she could finally be allowed release a lot like picrel. Just need to wait around for a big rainstorm to roll through.

It will last a lot longer than 1 hour before she is finally granted permission.

>>11301339
I love having a fun movie night. Sitting down on a comfy couch, some good popcorn, and having my slave ready to serve.

She gets to kneel infront of the couch, spending the entire movie worshipping cock. Yay! She sure has listened to a lot of movies, but probably doesn't remember much, its far more important she figures out the best way to pleasure Master over longer periods.

>>11299120
Thank you dearly, anon, I've been searching for this for over a year.

>>11301341
Ponygirls are actually closer to sled dogs than horses.

>>11301496
No problem. Love when people have a internet white whale.

>>11301541
The best way is still just drawing a cart, I'd say.

It does look weird when the packs are on them, and they can't transport you anywhere like that. The cart is the best way to fulfill their lifelong dream of being a beast of burden.

>>11301344
I love the idea that it's also considered normal in some parts of the world. Once you've been made a ponygirl, EVERYONE treats you as an animal.

>>11301541
depends on who uses them and how, I guess

>>11296077 (OP)
No Lyn? Odd

>>11301830
I'll gladly be a pack mule slave, then. Keeping my mouth shut and head pleasantly empty while just focusing on carrying stuff over long distances with my other not-so-smart mule friends is what I do best.

>slaves are real people, just like you and me
>sort of
>they dream of being a beast of burden, and never having complex thoughts ever again
>treat them as they deserve

Female slaves only in this thread? I like to fantasise about being the slave, so would like some male ones.....

>>11302133
Oh no there's room for others. Maledom/femsub is the most numerous setup but I always fantasize about being friends with a bunch of Femdom/malesub people while being the former. Can feel the misogyny and misandry leaving your body when its very visible that has nothing to do with why you're on your knees and not ever wearing clothes.

It is unfortunate that even I regularly conflate girls with slaves to the point where I use the terms interchangeably quite often. Poor servile people are usually not smart enough to understand the nuances of that.

>>11301830
Yeah, full disclosure: I view ponygirling as a way to keep the girls in shape. I'm a leg man.

>>11301634
In my professional opinion the only viable way to use ponygirls for transport is to hook up a team of them to a cart. They're marginally smarter than most other beasts of burden, so you can ungag the best-behaved one so she can micromanage the others, and then relax. The view is great.

>>11301958
Good girl. Make sure you get lots of exercise so you can get (relatively) strong and be good at carrying your Master's stuff.

>>11298068
"What's the difference between a slave and a dog?"

"Animal cruelty is illegal."

>>11301341
has to be either a big height difference with the slave, so that goblin or tiefling can ride, or a big height with the captor so my Master can fannypack me

>>11300074
a bit further south than where they were guessing but that kind of area

>>11300199
>don't care if you like it or not you aren't being forced to have sex with any animal
i don't want to, i would be punished with the muzzle because Master doesn't trust me not to try and eat His dog.
i would be punished with the chastity belt because Master doesn't trust His dog not to try.
Opposite causes, but both result in Master punishing me, and restricting my freedom.
male is just so that it still tries, and being too scared to resist and risk injuring Master's more beloved pet, i just have to pleadingly look at Master and hope He rescues me soon

>>11302499
Big fan of the thin, athletic runners physique a girl can get. Good thing for slaves they don't have a choice if Master orders them to do that kind of exercise a lot.

I'm a ass man in the end, so a rickshaw is great. No fancy tackle, just the slave equally as nude as she always is, grasping the bars and running up to wherever she's told. A great view.

>>11302654
You're still being fucking horny about this even when I very publicly scolded you over it?

Yeah maybe I don't trust you around the dog. You think they just do that. I don't want you even looking at the dog in a way I disapprove of, you will be in a lot more pain than usual.

If you have to do some work around the dog, and I don't feel like standing over you literally every single second of the task, then you will be blindfolded. If that results in poor work or service then whose fucking fault is that? You better throw yourself into making your screams and yelps as entertaining as possible during punishment since I will have even less mercy than usual for you braindead freaks.

>>11302499
>I view ponygirling as a way to keep the girls in shape
Interesting that there are small niches in an already niche topic, isn't it?
>I'm a leg man
Not a bad choice

>>11302129
It's only logical to be told what to do and what to think by someone far better than me.
They should have the right to define who/what I am, not me.

>>11302875
You train your body to be what I tell you. You train your mind to be what I tell you. You are what I tell you.

A slave is a extension of a person, not a person itself. I am glad you understand.

>>11296077 (OP)
Posting archive links:

https://archived.moe/d/search/subject/Slavery/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/d.desu.meta/subject/Slavery/

Thread slave forgot to post archive links again some one needs to whip this thread slave!

>>11299120
Posting archive links just in case.
Any anons know of other 4chan archives that have /d/ board?

>even if not part of their rules, slaves tend to internalize "don't speak unless spoken to"
>this is largely due to them all having anxiety
>more so than usual
>this is also why they tend to just nervously stare at the people they serve, adore, and worship
>you WILL NOT win a staring contest with a slave unless you tell her to stop
>or inform her that she is in a contest with you, she will immediately look away rather than even attempt to beat Master in something

>>11303099
Nah it was only the two links the thread slave was supposed to have.

There's probably more than just those two out there, somewhere. Aside from the standard google tactics I'm not too sure on how to track down more, and google is weirdly crap now.

>>11303112
No, I'm not staring, just admiring.
I blink my eyes, so it doesn't count.

>>11303343
"admiring"? That actually does describe what you things do quite well. Good girl.

slaves tend to creep out people with just how much they worship. Even looking at a superior is often a divine act for them, but its only a problem if it interferes with their service. You don't have issues making sure My home is spotless and My meals are perfect due to spending so much time admiring Master instead of toiling for Him, correct?

>>11302692
Subcultures are fractal, it's niches all the way down.

>>11298068
I have a similar fantasy about having to explain to a slave the reason she's lower than an animal like a dog is that slaves have less sense, are less predictable, and are less loyal than one. Giving you any leeway makes you a danger to yourself and the humans around you, so really it's for your own good that you live in some constant degree of physical restraints. The emphasis would lean on that it's what you deserve, and there's nothing anyone could do to change that even if we wanted to (and we don't.) Your lifestyle is inescapable and it's nobody's fault but your own, so you should be grateful you're kept under lock and key so you can't be a problem.

Always keep that in mind: you owe everything to your owner. Even hesitance to submit to any and every recompensation demanded for that debt is at the absolute minimum serious disrespect and displays an appalling lack of gratitude. This is in addition to and compounding on top of the fact that you're property and have no rights, not merely an alternate philosophy on slavery. Don't go thinking resistance is anything less than theft even without your debt.

I was purchased by my master a month ago. On my first day working, I was given the standard uniform and told to clean all the dust from the study alone. I worked on it for 20 minutes, then Master came to the room. He said "when I enter the room, you are to prostrate yourself immediately". I nodded, but he wasn't pleased.

"I said, get on the ground" As he yelled his command, he balled his fist and hit me with immense force against my cheek so hard I fell over. My face felt numb and tingly at the same time. I scrambled onto all fours in front of him.

He left the room. Then, a few minutes later, unbeknownst to me, he entered the room again while my back was turned, not making a sound. He walked up behind me and kicked me square in my back sending me flying into the wall and crumpling on the floor. Instantly I got up onto all fours and extended myself in front of him, tears in my eyes.

"Why can't you follow instructions, slave?!" He said, dragging me by my ear over to the table. He lifted me up and quickly began raping me, as our uniform has no panties as we are supposed to be prepared to be fucked at any moment. He fucked my slave pussy and made a deposit, as is his right to do to his property.

"Pfft, I can't believe I spent money on an animal like you" He spew, as he grabbed my hair and threw me on the ground. He grabbed what remained of my clothes and removed them until I was stark naked.

"Go to the bus stop in front of the sawmill immediately and don't come back until after the afternoon shift has had a chance to use you."

I dutifully followed his orders. It was 20 minutes until the first workers started showing up. My slave plate attached to my collar said I was available for free use. And so, they threw me to the ground. While some would press my arms and face into the grass and dirt another would rape my slave pussy. Then when he came inside me, they would rotate until each man who wanted to had the opportunity to rape me in whichever hole he wanted

>>11303797
I have some similar philosophies, although the fact I am also far kinder to slaves than most has a lot to do with how I'd put it a lot differently than that.

Even very visibly scolding a slave I find it hard to remain mad at her for basically any reason, because slaves are a special category of their own for being unable to be held accountable, its hard to explain exactly but its less their inherent lifestyle means that they are prone to fuck up everything, although that is a part of it, but that the sentence for any deeply weird crimes they commit will always be to come under the complete control of someone better, who can properly order the chaos inside of them and they can show great gratitude by being a extension of that person.

Less slaves are deeply criminal just at their base existence, more that when just how fucking weird they are on the inside makes them do the weirdest crimes they are considered to have less agency than a dog or a child. Although I can see someone who just wants these things to do as they're told trying to brainwash them more in that direction.

I actually do think slaves are quite a bit more predictable than animals, can be made to be more loyal, less sense is debatable, they are this way since they are technically the same kind of sentient as you or me, it just made them 7 mental illnesses stacked ontop of eachother, hence going more for the rhetoric of "Master brings order to the deep turmoil inside of you, there is no other option to be happy."

Maybe more than a few slaves drive themselves fucking crazy with guilt over some of the weirder shit they've done but nah, these things are weird and creepy but still mostly harmless. Helps if you're the kind of Master who is like 30% mental illness too to be honest. Need to really understand how such a creature thinks to truly control it.

If any slaves are having late night mental breakdowns, like believing you deserve to live like >>11303804 as recompense for disobedience to humanity, then you need to obey the tasks of a dominant internet stranger to help understand exactly what you are.

Get naked, obviously, and get off the furniture. Go and find the shoes you use every day, even if its nowhere close to every day because you're a bedrotting girlfailure who doesn't go outside. Find the hardest floors in your living space, usually your bathroom, and gently place them on the floor, before throwing yourself to that same floor to lick off any even hint of grime that would be on there. Make sure to worship, kiss just as much as you lick. Do so for exactly 20 minutes before returning to pretending to be normal.

If you're willing to follow weird tasks posted at 1 AM on 4chan I hope you can be proud of how even that "pretend" is full of more holes than some of the work rags you'll be given.

>>11303804
>Going home after work
>See a naked crying slavegirl in a bus stop
>Is this a runaway, or did some asshole just toss his stuff out of his car?
>Either way, this shit is just uncivilized.
>Call the police and report it.

>>11303895
>Eh? Master stopped abruptly at the bus stop?
>Now he's staring at some loud slave and making a phone call?
>Oh well, my current orders are to just crawl behind him and stay quiet.
>Might as well kneel and worship him until he's done talking.

>>11303895
Aw, I feel bad seeing slaves like that. They obviously serve out of fear and not out of devotion, although its not really right to tell another person what to do with their things, slave cruelty laws largely don't exist for a reason.

I like to still walk up and give such things a headpat when I see them. Tell them that they exist to serve, and they need to dedicate themselves fully to service, regardless of what they feel. Maybe crouch down to eye level to really drive home the final point, the only way life ever gets better is by making the lives of humans better.

Maybe their Master will take mercy on them, maybe there's some wider karmic thing of ending up worshipping a kinder Master, but Ive already taken in enough strays. Seeing my slave be happy and devoted would be calming at least, especially since I always order her to kiss the other slave as a final act before moving on.

Runaways tend to not be out in the open anyways, just leave the creature to stew in that.

>>11304122
Whenever standing still for long periods its also customary for my slave to worship my boots.

Nowhere close to the worst thing that's been in either of those slaves mouths. I don't kiss these things for a reason.

>>11296093
Encasement like on your pic? Boring. But having to get used to and live with light bondage? Hot.
>a shock collar I can never take off that reads my thought patterns and emotions and trains me to readjust them
>visor/lenses that I can see normally with but can be used as a blinfold or hypnotic conditioning
>same with in-ear headphones
>uncomfortably high heels locked at the ankle
>a chastity belt
>a corset and a postue collar for proper posture
>a skin-tight suit, something like a plug suit, that exposes every curve and crevice
Maybe it could all be combined into a slave suit locked at the collar? Every turn of the key adjusting how much air I'll be getting.
Now, notice how I could still function with all that gear, even work in any setting from an office to a cafe. It's just that I'm completely at my master's/masters' mercy
(also piercings obviously)

>>11296093
>why would a slave of yours end up with this fate?
Betrayal, predominantly. Or maiming me or something/someone who I care about/like and stuff like that.
I wouldn't do it for petty shit like disobedience or trying to run away or even trying to kill me (unless they maim me in some serious way).
>how common would it be in your setting?
Pretty rare I imagine.
>what kind of bondage would they be kept in?
Well, males would be feminized first off.
Then, nipple piercings, ear plugs, nose plugs, blindfold, mittens, complete body latex coverage, urethral plug, dildo gag, anal plug, nipple, tongue and nose piercings, corset, hogtie, metal frame that keeps them bent uncomfortably and vaginal plug/chastity cage (depending on sex) are all mandatory. My goal is to make them a black latex, leather and steel statue that can be kept alive for a long time.
>does anything of note happen after you finish locking them up and leave the room?
Well, I'll actually do something unique for this. If they have no family, before starting all of this, I'll ask them where they want to be placed when they're permanently locked up and, if the wish is within reason, put them there. If they have family, I'll inform them they'll be going back to them. Then, after bringing them to their family or wherever, I'll mount a large explosive collar and a pair of mutually covering cameras with large and powerful batteries. If any modifications are made to the gear, the explosive collar or the cameras, the slave gets decapitated.

Picrel is pretty close, just lacks the nose and tongue piercings and lacks the piece of metal to keep her hogtied and another to keep her bent in a crescent shape.

slaves usually just get fed stale tapwater and gruel, often out of the same feeding bowl. I make sure to handfeed mine scraps of the cooking they do for me occasionally, both for fun but also to help improve food service, a slave needs to know how the human food she makes tastes even if its not for her.

I am somewhat soft towards these things, so the rare human meal as a great reward has also happened a few times, alongside a slave deep in misery and suffering being taught to understand Master's rule over her life is benevolent with something like picrel, drinking a human drink straight from her Master's hand, but there's still other ways you can have fun with this reality of her life day to day.

Best to use just the Ice Water she makes you. Not the coffee or any of the fancier stuff depending on what you're into, but during some lazier days where she just has to serve you around the house and doesn't have that much chores to do, can have some fun rewarding her for keeping your floors absolutely spotless.

Just drip some of your drink on the floor. Not too much, not right to spoil such a creature. Make sure she understands she is supposed to immediately drop to the floor and lick it up, thanking you profusely for every drop. slaves are ultimately but dirt who must redeem themselves with exemplary service every day in order to receive the bare minimum, any lack of respect for treating her as anything more should be dealt with immediately.

>>11296093

Permanently, forever, no chance of being released? Personally I'd only do that if a slave was only good as an onahole. And honestly, some slaves *are* only good as onaholes, because some bitches are just too hopeless to learn how to fuck properly.

Broadly I divide them into morons, crybabies and sluts. Morons are just too stupid to understand instructions or remember their lessons and no amount of beatings will imprint it into them. Crybabies just can't get over their fear; they either get too upset to think straight and can't do anything right, or they panic and get so eager to please they fuck it up anyway. And sluts? Those shameless cunts don't just cum to rape, they cum HARD, so even if they were bouncing their ass on their master's cock as fast as possible, once they blow - and they *always* cum first and without permission - they're too busy twitching and shuddering to keep fucking properly.

The only thing to do with them is ring gag them, immobilize them in something permanent, and use them as an onahole for the rest of their life. No sobbing, no screaming, no begging, and you don't have to listen to the retarded sounds or see the stupid face she makes when she cums like what she is; a sub-sentient animal in heat.

May as well leave the vibes on all the time so she's always ready for use. Not like you can hear her screaming, and she wasn't good for anything else, anyway.

>>11304593
>Maybe it could all be combined into a slave suit locked at the collar? Every turn of the key adjusting how much air I'll be getting.
>Now, notice how I could still function with all that gear, even work in any setting from an office to a cafe. It's just that I'm completely at my master's/masters' mercy
>(also piercings obviously)

See, this is how I'd keep my slaves all the time as a matter of course, for exactly the reason you said - it maximizes utility and convenience. Something like picrel to start with, plus a short rope behind her back linking her elbows to limit her reach; hobbled to the point of helplessness, but still able to do chores. I'd want a fully-equipped slavesuit tho; capable of administering shocks through integrated electrodes (for stimulation or punishment, depending on my whim,) integrated vibrators (to make sure they're ready for me when I want them,) a motorized choke-collar (that can also function as an anti-escape device) and even a small supply of drugs that can be injected either automatically or on command. An integrated sensor net to monitor vitals, and have all this linked wirelessly to a computer running an AI program that studies and learns her physical reactions, and can use that information to elicit desired responses with the tools at its disposal when the master orders it.

And, of course, aesthetics are important too - slaves should be pleasant to the master's eye.

>>11304801
What locations would you accept and what locations would you not accept?
And where would you put them if they have no family *and* they have no valid request for where to be kept? ("I'm fine with anything", "fuck you I'm not dignifying that with an answer", etc")

Also is it really wise to send them back to their family? I love the idea of a mother having to see her daughter like this and taking care of her, but I feel like a family would almost certainly trigger the collar one way or another. Like they can't stand to see her like this and trigger it intentionally to honor kill her, or they try to be slick and mess with it. Maybe some kids are playing with their older sister and wonder what this thing does if you try to pry it off.
>>11305738
So basically something like pic related?
Do the sluts mind or do they get off to it as they're being immobilized for good? Also where do you keep them afterwards?

>>11305738
>Crybabies

Wow it's exactly the kind of property I like. I'd probably use the word crybitch though. Might rename her crybitch for a little while...

I gave her a little gift for her 3rd slave birthday: A piece of cardboard to put on the floor next to my bed, so she can have something a little bit like bedding for the first time since she was pretending to be free.

I timed it, she took 4 hours and 33 minutes for her crying and grovelling and general emotional breakdown to just devolve into sounds instead of words. Little thing thought she didn't deserve even the bare minimum of comfort, and wanted to be horribly tortured to pay me back for having such a thing as bedding that wasn't being ordered to share my bed occasionally, or more towards the end of the breakdown when she wanted to lose limbs or be disposed of for even deigning to believe there was a world where she could be given but a hint of comfort.

crybitch very critically forgot that she deserves exactly what I tell her. Shoved my cock down her throat, and then very actively stood over her giving encouragement with my crop as she was -very- behind on her chores. Can you believe that her service both as a tool and a cocksucker was subpar with how much she was shaking?

She got 20 lashes for that, not for wasting a good chunk of a day just on her knees having a complete breakdown. I enslaved her for that.

>>11305743
I still love the idea of a true smart collar even if im not fully in on the slave suit or even heavy restraints.

Really love electric shocks. For punishment and entertainment, not stimulation, she doesn't deserve that.

If you order her to dance infront of you, not only will whatever dumb things she comes up with on the spot be hilarious, make sure to record it, but a actual thunderclap coming through her collar will be even more entertaining. Fun!

>>11306286
But the sudden little jolts can be quite fun though... I-I mean-!

>>11305943
>What locations would you accept and what locations would you not accept?
If I can put them somewhere cheaply, sure. If it would inconvenience me or cost me a lot of money, no. Examples - put me in the presidential palace/moon/volcano... no, fuck off.
Put me in your living room/slave barracks/orphanage i grew up in/my first owners home... sure.
>And where would you put them if they have no family *and* they have no valid request for where to be kept? ("I'm fine with anything", "fuck you I'm not dignifying that with an answer", etc")
Slave barracks, or if they're hot, maybe I'd make them into some decoration for my home. A hot milf might end up in a sort of gargoyle statue position overlooking the entrance. A cute girl might end up wearing a transparent latex hood with blackout lenses to leave her pretty face face visible, while, for an example, a slave overseer might end up with a removable anal plug for their former underlings to take revenge.
>Also is it really wise to send them back to their family? I love the idea of a mother having to see her daughter like this and taking care of her, but I feel like a family would almost certainly trigger the collar one way or another. Like they can't stand to see her like this and trigger it intentionally to honor kill her, or they try to be slick and mess with it. Maybe some kids are playing with their older sister and wonder what this thing does if you try to pry it off.
That's quite literally, not my problem.
I would clearly and reasonably tell them to not touch the collar or to try and remove the equipment unless they want to decapitate her.

>>11306296
Yes exactly. Things like you are very expressive Perfect for a personal service slave.

Maybe if you were spending the rest of your life in a mine it would be a liability but no, love how even knowing that Master is looking at you, even if its just a quick look to make sure you're still doing your duties as you're told, is enough to make your heart flutter.

Quite literally. The collar that shocks you also does biometrics. Get alerts on that black rectangle all your humans look at about rapid heart rate when you are rewarded by being able to sit on my lap. And that's just when you're happy.

Your emotions lead to poor service which leads to pain and misery which leads to more emotions. That's just what such things are meant for anyways.

>>11306297
That kind of permanent encasement still seems horrible to me but I love the philosophy of taking a slaves wishes into account, but just to help control her better, she has no actual influence or anything.

Like for example if my slave has a first owner, bought her from him on a extreme discount because it turns out slaves who have multi-hour crying fits are a acquired taste, and just wants to see the first man she worshipped to make sure he's still happy?

Yeah sure. I still keep up with him. He's a little ways away, it'll be about a 14 hour run on the rickshaw. Load it up and lets go. Right now.

>>11306296
I think the jolts themselves would be horrible, but hopefully we can avoid them, and the constant thrill and anticipation would keep us on our toes, submissive and horny.

>>11306366
Oh they are extremely painful. Without a doubt. You're a slave. Get used to it. Good service means you get hurt less, but I do make sure I don't set them off unless I am actively overseeing my property. If it just goes off at random and you're carrying something heavy, then that would be problematic and I intend to protect my property.

That does mean that whenever Master is looking at you, a very literal thunderclap from God could come coursing into your neck. "Constant thrill and anticipation" indeed. slaves who live this way consistently masturbate without permission more, makes it fun when I catch them kneeling in a corner and they just have a instant breakdown when I start pulling out my phone.

"submissive and horny" does also translate to "eager". Which is another reason to have a slave live under this discipline regime. Its adorable just how quick my cocksuckers drop to their knees upon hearing the command. So cute..

Hi again everyone! Just another silly slave checking in on the thread to see how it's going. I like seeing doms actually giving orders to the slaves. Makes the thread go from just an image board to an actual dynamic with other people.

>>11306383
>>11306366
>>11306316
Love this and wanna do it some day. Although I'd opt for the electrodes placed on more sensitive areas like the genitals and asshole. One of those Coyote E-stim boxes with metal probes and the whole thing is locked in a chastity belt sounds brutal.
Also these and other toys can be controlled through the web like on Lovense and I think Xtoys. I'm surprised no slave has offered their toys up to be controlled yet.
Maybe when I have some time to sign up for dedicated thread slave, I'll post a link to my vibe and let everyone abuse me.

>>11306595
Stay silly, dumb little slave.

Also being completely real I am the only one who gives those orders to the weird thread creatures. I know they appreciate it, obeying the commands of a complete internet stranger is a demonstration of just how they're...like that.

Those two posts of mine were more the BDSM fantasy meshing with reality, in terms of doing this for real I think the safest option is one of those leg mounted shock collars. Haven't looked into it that deeply, but wearing it alongside a slaves usual collar and manacles looks a bit weird meaning you might want to save it for a special occasion. Maybe something like bringing her camping in some remote area where she doesn't have to wear clothes but then the outdoors could additionally cause problems.

Allowing the open internet access to such things is something a Master should be there to prevent you from doing but then slaves are very, very silly. Its no wonder they crave to be controlled.

>>11303112
>>this is also why they tend to just nervously stare at the people they serve, adore, and worship
>>you WILL NOT win a staring contest with a slave unless you tell her to stop
Not quite, gazing admiringly at Master would be done but would avert eyes and look awkwardly at the floor if Master were to look back.

>>11303797
less capable too, dog can stay on all fours for much longer, much more comfortably, and is much better at "fetch"
Imagine having to humiliate yourself like that so hopelessly, but with the threat of Master's punishment hanging over you for failing

>>11304801
could a slave in such a punishment ever earn forgiveness, mercy or another chance?

>>11306296
i am guessing that the fear would be better than the actual shock and those would be better as an empty threat, and the brunt of it would use obedience/corrector sprays

>>11306913
>could a slave in such a punishment ever earn forgiveness, mercy or another chance?
The entire point would be to ask for a "no second chances, no mercy".
And my requirements for such a fate were pretty harsh. Besides telling me something that really moves me, at most, I guess I might, at some point, if the family/guardians/whoever, asks, begs and sucks me off enough (think mother showing up in her wedding dress and letting me fuck her in the ass and then leave her in the stocks for the rest of the day for my slaves to fuck her, only for her to come back the next day with her still gaped asshole), I might decide to turn off the collar (not that I'll necessarily tell them of it).

>>11303895
>walk up to slave
>tell her to stop crying and explain the situation
>if she's lost, send her home.
>if she's a runaway and admits it, wish her luck, she's stupid enough she'll need it.
>if she's abandoned, call police, have her taken in, and file an abandoned property claim on her so I can get her later.

Like with cats, the Slave Distribution Network is a thing.

>>11306913
>Not quite, gazing admiringly at Master would be done but would avert eyes and look awkwardly at the floor if Master were to look back.

Oh yeah that's a lot of them too. I have to train out the instinct to have sheer terror when Master meets their eyes, I think its important that when God is looking at you, you look back. No matter how scary it is to look right in the eyes of who your entire life is about.

>shocks as a empty threat
Ive heard a few slaves here talk about just how terrified electric shocks make them. I like the idea of breaking out the cattle prod for special occasions of really hard labour, and one even told me she'd piss herself with fear.

Guess it really is exceedingly painful. They're just slaves, but im not cruel for no purpose. If they're scared of it that much it doesn't even feel right to threaten it. I'm here to protect these creatures from the world and themselves, the fact it takes the form of complete domination over their lives in service of mine doesn't mean that I'm going to just disregard any of their little feelings, just that they have no actual power over what I finally do.

>playing fetch
Oh that's a lot of fun.

For one, if you ever stand up while we're playing this little game, that's a punishable offence.

I'd let you wear your cat ears, you're a slave, the chances you already had a pair prior to submitting to someone is 100%. Might actually be the last bit of clothing from your old life you still have, you surrendered your old human clothes to me long ago.

As for what to fetch and where, I want the slave to still be nude, so something like a backyard would be ideal. Not nearly enough space to humiliate herself indoors. I think a dog treat would be a good one. If you do a good job you get to eat it at the end, having had so long to savour it in your mouth and now you get to finally have something maybe 20% of the way to human food while I give headpats and praise.

If you're not a good girl, well. We'll see.

>>11298405
As someone who fantasizes about being in this exact same position a lot, here is what I imagine, aside from the generically applicable slave stuff.
As a powerful warrior woman, it's likely that I would have prided myself on my strength and independence. A society like that is likely to be very patriarchal and because of that, I would probably have fought tooth and nail for everything I have.
The greatest indignity, then, would be humiliation - the demonstration to myself and others that I am not strong and independent, but rather "just a woman" - and a slave at that.
Immediately after capture, I would likely be paraded through the streets while restrained. I would have some clear signifier of my rank on me and would be chained by the neck to the back of a carriage, which spends the day riding around town. The body that I've worked so hard to build is totally capable of this - the carriage is fast enough I have to run to keep up, so I am never comfortable, though, and the whole time I am pelted with rotten fruit and other objects. In the evening, exhausted and sweaty, I am hosed down with freezing water then raped through the night.
There was a story in a previous thread about a slave being chained to a carriage and told she could have her freedom if she pulled it a certain distance, but the task would be set up to be impossible. I think I would like to be subjected to something like that.
On top of that, the most humiliating thing would be assaults on my independence. I'd be forced to beg for food and made to wear plugs that I have to request be removed in order to relieve myself. These would become constant reminders that I had thought to have overcome my womanhood, but here it is crashing down on me once more - the crushing reality that I will never break free of.

>>11301101
>Roman slaves were free-roaming
Interesting facts, anon.

>only allows sexual slavery, not any kind of commercial usage
When I envision existing in a world like this as a slave, it's usually something along those lines, where the primary purpose of slavery is to provide pleasure to masters rather than to serve as a source of cheap labor. The trappings of my fantasies usually lend themselves to that idea of slavery (sexualized clothes, aphrodisiac+masturbation ban/chastity, semi-permanent arm restraints, etc).
I usually envision slavery being founded on either a religious or scientific basis that asserts that society will be better if people like me are made to give our whole being to be sources of pleasure and amenity of free people. I would likely be "placed" as a slave as the result of an aptitude exam at the age of 18, with no possibility of having that status rescinded. The basis of my position as slave is both a suitability for the role of "slave" as well as my unsuitability of the role of "free human".
Because of that, being made to play the role of a slave is a duty that society and my master have toward me. The rules that say I cannot roam the streets freely are a kindness shown to me, as are my physical restraints and the masturbation ban. The higher tier slave with roaming privileges is being given a duty suitable to her nature, but for me, it's a kindness that I am kept harnessed and gagged and made to bear the load. After all, there are more efficient ways to transport groceries. Being made to serve is a blessing I am to be grateful for, as is that I am denied roaming privileges.

>>11307293
forgot image

>>11307263
Usually the "feminist and slave psychiatrist" anon, but we can work with this, dumb misogynistic bitch.

For one, slaves with that kind of body are usually just sent to the mines to be worked to death. I'd be picking you out from some lineup of fresh meant to be sent down, so you better be grateful. I'll be taking those rags and burning them directly infront of you, you won't wear even those ever again, and you are to be grateful, and to show it.

Kiss my boots, maybe lick off any grime on my own armour, promising to never even gaze upon a feminine set of plate, and you are so thankful you have been shown the error of your ways? If you don't feel like it, there can be a freeform beating with assistance with my crop. And we can try again, until you are beaten down enough to obey.

Then your collar and manacles will be attached. Forever. Magic or something, won't rust, not ever. That's good, since a chain will also be attached to a mount on my armour. Can be taken into my hand when not in it, but I am some sort of famous warrior or something, retired to a big fantasy city, not that you need to know, you're just my personal slave, forever. The only time you are not actually attached to me will be when you're forced into your holding cage at night. I made one that is exactly your size and no bigger.

For the first task, obviously you'll be drawing a carriage. The chain is just long enough for my personal rickshaw. I'll be putting you through your paces, barking orders for you to run and turn left or right, for quite some time. For hours, or however long it takes. I'll have a nice view of my new slaves ass as I figure out how long it takes her to actually collapse from exhaustion.

Now I would absolutely have several other slaves to do things like cook and clean for me, im not standing next to you in the kitchen, which is why its such a great honour for a girl who thought she was a great warrior, to be a literal accessory to the real thing.

>>11307293
(love codeswitching completely back to egalitarian paternalistic slavery on a dime)

That's a good way to get around the whole weirdness of how you even became a slave in such a world. In our own you obviously knew you were a slave long before age 18, no matter how much you try and deny it deep inside.

You also deeply understand why you are being enslaved. Its a kindness done for your own good. Good girl. The arm bindings aren't quite my thing, but they do increase your chores by about 2 hours every day, giving you less time with your own mind, and instead having it be focused on making peoples lives better. There's also more in your gruel than just gruel, so that you are too horny to truly have anxiety.

You live for others because its just irresponsible to live for yourself, okay? Everyone knows that when you make decisions instead of obeying the decisions made by a person it just doesn't work. The only right you have is to be given the guidance and control of someone who knows far better what is best for you.

Some more thoughts I've been having on slave economics.

A female slave is going to be most valuable early on in her life as a slave - usually at the point of virginity. Often training is just a question of instilling a submissive attitude, with perhaps the most advanced duties being related to courtesan-like work for very high end clients.

Meanwhile for male slaves, whether they're acting as gigolos or largely in manual labor, will get more valuable the longer they're in the field. Having more sex over time grows skill and stamina, as well as things like the ability to pleasure with the tongue. A slave who has had a lot of experience in manual labor will be stronger and more muscular.

So this creates an interesting dynamic where newly captured female slaves will be much more expensive than male slaves, but after say 10 years at a manor the male slaves may sell for more than their female counterparts.

How would the masters here see the economics of their purchases and plan around that?

>>11307263
The idea of slowly being trained and conditioned to be a docile slave is definitely hot. Even if I once was a capable warrior, my strength and speed is long gone now. So even if I wasn't broken in and loyally following Master's orders now, I would never have a chance to escape anymore anyway when even the weakest monsters or thieves could just easily defeat me again.

>>11301294
>slaves are seen as extensions of their Master's, who are the actual people that society is upkept by and for. They're there to comfort those that do the hard task of building civilization, as they themselves are barely useful for domestic service.

I'm always really hesitant about this concept because it ends up feeling less like slavery and more like generic patriarchy. Contrast is a powerful tool, and slavery is more impactful when I have an idea of what live as a free person might be like (even if there's no actual possibility of me actually attaining freedom). Being able to see the lives of free women would provide a very effective contrast to my own life.
I do like the "task of building civilization" justification you've provided, though. Maybe the placement exam would be meant to find out aptitude for taking part in civilization-building?

>>11308732
Yeah I don't like gender based justifications for slavery either. Was more talking about the idea of a sexual service only slavery likely to be gender based, but the idea of a slavery society being based on what I actually think separates slaves from Master's deserves elaboration. It's not gender.

Basically the idea is that you'd never see a slave do actual work at a office, at best help out the people there with domestic service, since administrative tasks like that are left to people who can actually see more than just what is in front of them. slaves would do the most menial of tasks, but no more. There's this recognition that slaves are that way because of being highly emotional and in need of leadership. So Masters do so much for them by actually going out and doing the hard job of thinking. Even in ancient times such a culture would still think that a mine overseer has the hardest job, his tools are absolutely nothing without his guidance. The fact that if you map current dom/sub ratios onto this society it'd be like 80% slaves would also help out with the whole "It's leadership that makes people people, most people aren't" justifications this world would have.

Ultimately though a big slave society like this is just really good for normalizing a slavery lifestyle which isn't normal in our own world. Being a domestic slave and looking at a free woman and knowing that her life is one of agency and freedom, and knowing that she has that because why you are a slave has nothing to do with what you superficially share in common, and everything to do with what you really are deep down, is a level of experiencing what being a slave is in so much more totality than "Oh you've got boobs so you aren't free".

slaves are also way smarter than the teasing they get gives them credit for. Surprisingly so in some locked in cases. It's the fact that they really wish they could be completely head empty that makes their lives best suited to be someone elses.

>>11308732
>>11308877
I do like the idea of some big humiliating "placement exam" as you put it to figure out which people are people, even if what is exactly on it could be a million different things. In our own world though, slaves know what they really are deep down early on, getting something like that when you turn 19 and get to see if you're a person or not would have worked out well for a lot of slaves.

Society knows that you cannot ever be trusted with any responsibility, and so we won't let you let anybody down. The nice lady at the training center will help you understand how to best pay everyone back for our kindness and patience with you. This is for your own good so you're expected to be grateful.

Owning a yandere slave is a lot of fun. I like nearly all types of women, but my favourite will always be the slim runners body with long blonde hair. It's the ultimate expression of a slave's devotion that the happiest she's ever been is not having a choice in being that.

I took mine out for a run today. As in, watching over her while she runs laps at the park. I wonder if friends from her old life would even recognize her, but while I have to keep telling her to take her eyes off me and pay attention to where she's going a lot of time, she did track a girl who also ran through, with the exact same style and aesthetics I ordered for her.

There's a lot of girls like that, its a common look. So I braced myself for exactly how weirdly my property would be about it. Thankfully she's well behaved enough to not even speak to people outside unless told to, but while accompanying me home...
>Master! Master! Did you see her? Exactly the kind of girl you like, Master! I just wish I could have grabbed her and made her yours!

Hey that's not the worst. Had to tell her that just because she's a thing, doesn't mean everyone else she sees is. And even if that girl was, you don't steal other peoples things. She'd be tortured way worse than when Ive caught her sneaking tastes of Master's food while cooking it if she keeps on thinking that way about strangers she sees.

I also had to give her the kindness of letting her worship my boots for a full hour as she sobbed and tried to stammer out words like how deeply sorry she is and also that she deserves disposal for doing anything at all to upset her eternal God. Yandere bitches are like that.

>>11308882
related, i really like the idea of being processed in a more clinical or factory setting
some group of handlers who process dozens, if not hundreds, of slaves a day
they wash you, shave you, inspect you, grade you, tag you, and ship you off to either display, auction, distribution center
you can be looked up in the slavery database and your videos of processing and grading can be found and you can be bid on or live streamed

>>11311007
Picrel is one of my favourites from that artist for a reason. It'd be the ultimate distinction between a thing and a person, treated just as livestock, and not a particularly valuable one at that. All the rough handling, complete dehumanization being driven further by this often being a job done by free women. Maybe its more of a social norm than a actual rule, but if such a world mirrors our own, a lot of slaves are going to be girls, and it feels right that they understand what their life is now being processed by someone that despite what they may share on the outside, is nowhere close to the same thing.

Plus it just heightens the kind of saviour relationship I really like about slavery. Going up and down the lines at the market, picking out the final girl I like. Out of maybe 300 there that day, she was the one who felt a human touch her in a soft way for the first time, when she finished her chores in my home the following day and received a headpat. The first time she ever felt soft bedding on her body, was when she cooked Master's food without burning it for a whole week, and spent the night with Master in bed as a reward. The first time she ever had anything like a name, instead of just a number, was when I granted her the name "trash", and even let her sit on my lap while I showed her the slave registry profile at my desk, "622-4662" no longer being both a profile identifier and legally her name, alongside pictures of her in tears back at the facility, a lifetime ago.

For a lot of the more extreme stuff you might need to have a really intense slavery society that actually does have slaves be slaves from birth, which gets a bit ick, but hey, just makes her adoration and worship from being treated as 5% human instead of the expected 0% that much sweeter.

>>11311081
Plus if you're one of those slaves who are upset that they are not completely beaten down and think they actually can handle living that way, such a world would make it much easier to teach slaves to always be grateful to their betters.

I know that you made some little friend at the training center. Never saw her again and never spoke of her, but I know. She serves alongside 3 other slaves in a living hell and even sleeps packed into the same tiny cell with them. I talked to her Master and you'll be the fifth girl stuffed in there for roughly a week. Maybe more, maybe less.

5 hours of sleep and a life alternating between domestic service and forced labour at the attached sweatshop probably means your new sisters will bully the shit out of you. Have fun!

>>11311083
i love getting bullied by other slaves, especially if a cage is involved

>>11311713
My slaves are the most bottom of all bitches and I am a bit soft on them. Combined with the fact I have a small and highly controlled harem, they get punished even for being catty with eachother, its a perfect recipe for these things to get bullied when I send them out.

I don't usually attend those social/political court events lots of Masters hold, 3 girls and a modest home is enough riches for me, but they do draw upon people like me for high grade domestic servants. The slaves we keep are always like that, we train them well.

There's one I like to send since I get way more positive reviews and tips for her service. She also is...The bottomest of even the bottoms, so it tracks. Usually she's only assigned to entertainment, she obviously does well there, but I did approve a request for her to be assigned to cooking service one time, just to see what would happen.

I'm positive my poor creature praised my divinity and kindness in handfeeding her scraps from my food which meant her gruel ration was stolen immediately. It only got worse. After a solid 3 hours of just, the cruelest things ive ever heard these girls do to eachother, three of them grabbed her and tried to march her over to the punishment cage in the main hall. A overseer shooed them off, but she barely had time to thank him by kissing his boots before he grabbed her and stuffed her in there himself.

Supposedly literally every single girl in there sensed weakness and went straight for mine. Usually the overseer would only step in if they're getting hurt or failing to keep up in their duties, but this was a work crew of like 50, they all knew how to do this. It was only the cage when a line was crossed, obviously slaves don't get to do that, but rather than punish them all and have the event grind to a halt they just let my slave rot in there, everyone else would get punished afterwards, I even got a little apology payment from the organizers.

>>11311779
My slave would go on to tell me that while she is happy she finally got to provide service by being seen by all those people, she couldn't stop herself from crying and wailing for Master, but that maybe this was the purpose of such a cage, so many people came up and tormented her further, which made her happy.

I mean it was what the cage is for, absolutely, got so much video from that day of her, but she also broke down crying while describing a completely itemized list of every single thing the girls did to her in the kitchens. They insulted her by calling her a "stuck up bitch" 157 times, "spoiled cunt" 93 times, she begged for forgiveness since she cannot remember exactly how many times they called her those two words without a qualifier, and that she deserves punishment for failing Master, before listing off that she was slapped 86 times, kicked 32 times, 9 times a girl grabbed her and forced her head into a bucket full of cleaning water, and one time a girl grabbed her and tried to march her over to a big cooker, but got a shock through her collar and said "You're lucky they don't trust me to not hurt bitches like you!" before throwing her to the ground.

I don't need to check back the surveillance footage, I know that mental count is accurate, poor girl doesn't realize she's a bit special and that's why I often send her to entertain people, although clearly the more industrial slaves just eat her alive, wow.

Of course she got to sleep in bed with me that night. What a good girl.

>>11311779
>After a solid 3 hours of just, the cruelest things ive ever heard these girls do to eachother, three of them grabbed her and tried to march her over to the punishment cage in the main hall. A overseer shooed them off, but she barely had time to thank him by kissing his boots before he grabbed her and stuffed her in there himself.
i dont know why the other slaves are so mean, im just trying to follow orders...
why does everyone always pick on me?

>>11311812
>why does everyone always pick on me?
Because you're weak, weird, and awkward. More so than most slaves.

>>11311840
it's true
but if i followed orders at least i could be useful
which is as close as i could get to fitting in

>>11311858
Yes.

You do follow orders, you are useful, and you do fit in. You never were cut out to be a person, but a person's favourite things are often their slaves.

>>11306297
>blackout lenses to leave her pretty face face visible
I absolutely LOVE the soft, lost look subs have in these. If it were up to me, I'd never take them out of their eyes. A ponygirl who can see might run in the direction she wants, rather than trusting her master entirely.

Would you allow your slave to proudly ¨decorate¨ herself after a hard day's work?

>>11312448
My slaves are really close domestic servants. They don't usually get a chance to "decorate' themselves with condoms like that, get the great honour of sucking Master's cock and drinking every single drop, but if I was to send them off to a brothel for a few shifts...

I'd like to see what they come up with. It helps to encourage what little creativity slaves have, they think so much about their humans and how to serve them. I'd love to see her come home from that brothel and excitedly tell me "Master! I had a tiny idea to help myself look better and get You more tips, Master! Do these little ties look good to Master? One of the customers even held me down and wrote something just above Master's brand before I left, but I don't know what." before twirling around to show me that on her lower back, almost touching the brand I put just above her ass, are the words "COCKWORSHIPPER"

Such a slave would get a great reward, its so hard to teach these things to take initiative in any way. Headpats and being called a good girl, obviously, but also a quick sip of Master's drink, and not even stuff like the cold water, the only time a slave gets to taste such things as coffee is when I am really happy with them like this.

>>11308882
Making the placement exam humiliating has the unfortunate effect of harming free women as much as slaves...

>>11308877
If you don't mind me heading into the realm of urban fantasy, when I said placement exam, I actually almost imagined it as a sort of innate quality that's been sniffed out, like a gene or something like that.
One idea that's spinning around in my head is that it's related to magic. All men and most women gain the ability to use magic around puberty, almost invariably by 18 (no one has ever gained magic later than that). Failing to attain magic means one is "forsaken by god" and being enslaved. The average civilian isn't a powerful mage and is usually only capable of little puffs of smoke and such when they haven't dedicated themselves to training it, but the "forsaken" reject magic and have no sensitivity to it (though are subject to its effects still). It's easily possible to test for that magic, and such a test is administered at 18 to everyone (in order to make absolutely sure there's no latent magical potential that will be awakened). Through some strange quirk, only women can possibly be "forsaken".
In a society founded on magic, "forsaken" have nothing to offer, and such must be ritually enslaved. Perhaps we would even believe that it's right that we're enslaved. After all, otherwise we'd be worthless parasites - we must work in servitude to pay back our masters for allowing us to live in their world.
(I'd be happy to expand on the setting if there's interest!)

>>11312574
>Making the placement exam humiliating has the unfortunate effect of harming free women as much as slaves...
Ah thats right. Was in such a rush to dehumanize these things I love so much. Wouldn't be right to subject a person who may still be a person to that treatment.

>urban fantasy
Those are some good ideas. It does actually get around feeling weird about how I see femininity and slavery as so intertwined, you would have a lot of free women to look up to as proof that you will always be on your knees, and even if your body is superficially the same you will never be able to match them.

>we must work in servitude to pay back our masters for allowing us to live in their world
I like this justification, ive used it before. Owning a slave is a kindness to that slave, they simply cannot live for themselves, having it be codified deep in the culture that forsaken must try their best to rise above their nature since its their Master's kindness they are in His world at all

Please expand on this setting some more. How do you see your servile forsaken self fitting into this world? What kind of Master would you like to serve? I do actually love being a mage, but not put too much thought into a urban fantasy type of setting. I might do more than just live a modest life with a small amount of girls deeply under my control, becoming a powerful mage with one of those forsaken girls trailing a step behind me the entire way sounds like a great time. Master would be literally superior to you.

I recommend Heart of Dominance and especially The Dominance Playbook for actual D/s relationship stuff.

Now that I have a partner who is into this stuff too I'm doing a lot more research on how to actually train a submissive. I've been doing bdsm with friends and partners for years, but this is my first time doing actual power exchange in a relationship. I'm confident that I can handle it, but I've been doing a lot of research. You can never do too much research.

These two books really really stood out. All the other books I've read on the topic of submissive training have felt like shitty roleplay. Other books I've found useful have been really good for teaching an individual skill, like beginner rope, or hypnosis, or how to hit someone, etc. But they don't cover the actual important skills of confidence, communication, psychology, relationship skills, etc. This is the only book I've found that discusses those things, and makes them practical, applicable, and immediately useful for controlling people.

The books (especially The Dominance Playbook) just hand you all the tools you need to actually do it. Actually submit and train someone, in a way that works, for the long term mutual enjoyment of both parties. It doesn't feel like this sort of advice, handed out on a silver platter, should be legal. Yet there is no specific law prohibiting it, and there it is, available on Amazon or pirateable off Anna's Archive.

So I actually recommend that the gooners read up. It's pretty neat. If nothing else it might improve your worldbuilding.

>>11311713
cages are best for being cuckqueened, like those under bed cages so you can feel it happening through the mattress, and forcing a gratefulness to seeing Master in the hopes that He may release you
i dont know about the bullying in cages, even though i like being enslaved with a bully, just because the slave should only really look to Master, not lower ranked slaves and if i was opposite i would feel bad for the punished slave even though Master is right to do that

>>11308165
i don't know, male slaves would either have twink death or peak like with male athletes. Their peak is 2 maybe even 3 decades later than female slaves but still have a peak,

>>11311007
the more it's changed to a factory line the better, assessed, valued and leashed to a rail and conveyor belt that will lead us to warehousing, auctioned, showroom floor (like a car garage), or the fake "free range" display slaves

>>11312749
What are the excerpts that really stood out?
>how to hit someone
unnfff

>>11313153
Left is definitely how I would be in that pic's situation, ¨hey, it's not all that bad, relax! With any luck we might even get our very own serial numbers.¨

>>11313153
>unnfff
I mean hit someone in such a way that they won't get injured. The dangerous part isn't usually physical injury though, it's emotional injury. Tends to be a more difficult and less sexy topic than the hitting part, so not a lot of people cover it.

>What are the excerpts that really stood out?
He wrote a bunch of essays that are on his website, which eventually became central points in the book. These are some ones that roughly stand out as being important.
consensualdominance dot com slash inspiring-submission
consensualdominance dot com slash how-to-discipline
consensualdominance dot com slash whatever-i-want-whenever-i-want-it
consensualdominance dot com slash real-submissive-training

>>11312602
>How do you see your servile forsaken self fitting into this world?
I would probably grow up as the daughter of a noble household, patiently ready for the day my magic to show up, and even on the exam day, I'm confident that the exam will reveal that I have magic abilities and simply haven't used them yet. Instead, to my horror, I discover that I'm a forsaken, and no social status can save me from that.
Being a forsaken means being stripped of all status and bloodline. Effectively, my parents do not even acknowledge that they ever had me if I happen to see them again, and treat me as a stranger. I would have to be "broken" before being sold for the first time.

>What kind of Master would you like to serve?
Masters would be mages - those who have chosen to study the use of magic. Actually being able to use magic for anything meaningful requires dedication and study, and forsaken are to devote ourselves to the luxury of our masters. We are to give our parasitic lives to the service of the people who we leeched off the most, after all.
It wouldn't be that a forsaken like me must "obey orders" because while our slave collars do compel our obedience, that's not the entirety of what we are to do. Rather, we are expected to "diligently devote ourselves". As a slave, I am to proactively aim to use every moment of my existence to be of use and pleasure to my master.
I would have been taught young the role that forsaken play in our culture. I would devote myself thoroughly to my master in the belief that that's the only way my soul might be saved.

>>11313367
I'll have to read through those posts, and maybe the larger website as a whole. I am confident in how I treat slaves, but its always nice to see someone who has a similar philosophy as me, even if Ive only skimmed it a bit so far.

>>11313433
Yeah that's exactly what I want my slave to be, good girl. Studying magic is important, having such a personal and devoted slave is a key part of being the best. Having such a creature spend every single waking moment of her life trying her best to improve mine, and not be happy with anything less than total devotion, is just exactly what I aim for in training a slave.

What would you reaction be if your Master just suddenly told you that your collar has been disenchanted for quite some time? Maybe literal years? It's not that much of a draw on magickal energies but its still non-zero, so I just put that somewhere else. Obviously you would have been so brainwashed and devoted already I knew you were going to obey matter what, but forsaken actually would be entirely cut off from magic, its just a bit of cold metal for you, which probably meant you would never have noticed either.

Are forsaken also quite visible in this setting? As in, sure they don't wear a lot of or any clothes a lot of the time, and its obvious when someone is completely subjugated by the person she's following around, but does the magic work a bit like I implied, where there's a energy that can be sensed in everything, and possibly even a lay person can see it in some way? As a skilled mage would I be able to sense every person for miles around, but not their forsaken? That might be what the collar is really for actually, there might be some backup brand that is more residual too, just in case they get lost.

Is being enslaved for debt or something else then being auctioned off on the auction block better, or being violently kidnapped by your new master?

>>11313526
I am a Master, so can't say exactly, but I suspect many slaves daydream of just being randomly grabbed by the boys they like.

Not that I would ever do that. You must be morally correct in subjugating the former people you love and consigning them to a life of eternal servitude while taking away every single right they thought they had. But y'know, I fantasize about going up and down the discount cat girl aisle at the slave market trying to find the weirdest possible one. Dating is sort of the same thing.

>>11313526
it depends on how, direct from Master has to be a more gradual coercion, like being tricked by a friend into a year's slave placement in a foreign land as a gap year placement, and keeping the collar on whilst returning to finish college or uni with the express purpose of going back to Master after the final year, or being seduced and groomed by a druglord, who already has lots of other girls addicted and obedient to Him. but im too starry eyed to see the red flags, and compete with the other girls, for His praise until my sense of self is fully diminished. or just steady blackmail that accelerates over time
but if it's being sold first then kidnapping and especially spoils of war hits the spot.

really i don't like the debt, but i do see begging on the street for shelter and food over winter, offering service to any Master that will rescue me which isn't that different

>>11313526
debt auctions are the hottest, especially if it's a neighbor, former boss, etc who can find you and buy you
not only do you have to get used to your new life as a slave learning to serve him, you also have to put up with his comments about how your life used to be

>>11314703
The main draw for that is the gratitude to them for rescuing you, only for the slow dawning realisation that they have no plans to free you, and you're still subject to captivity and servitude

>>11314703
Oh, that's hot; living as a slave around the same neighborhood as I used to live in before. Except now everyone I knew treat me like an object, or just ignore me most of the time, as I'm working for my new owner.

>>11314634
>begging on the street for shelter and food over winter, offering service to any Master that will rescue me

Aw, a very literal stray. I love it.

I can see finding one of those things, trying to stay warm in it's minimal slave rags, and manhandling her over to a patch of snow, forcing her head down in there while telling her she has to beg to be brought home by me.

When I am satisfied with her mostly muffled screaming, I'd order her to disrobe infront of me, making a choice to take off her rags herself. Deeply inspecting her body, if I am happy with what is there her rags will be left in a snow bank, I will give her any clothes she might need. If not, it'll be her nude body shoved in there, can go back to pick up her rags and find a Master with lower standards.

That is crueller than I usually am to these creatures but hey, I love strays. She'd love having a roof over her head, gruel in her stomach, and a Master to worship and serve. A lot more loyal than just going up and down the aisles. I don't think there's anything i'd find under those rags that would make me not want to drag her home anyways, the threat of being abandoned alongside the invasive body inspection is just to dehumanize her further.

>>11314791
Oh that's a lot of fun too.

Imagine accompanying Master to a coffee shop you used to go to, and knowing that its entirely up to him if you ever get to taste something like that again, and that his standards are extremely high for exemplary service to be granted even a sip.

Even if its our own world where you generally aren't permitted to kneel nude on the floor next to Master while he enjoys himself, that's still a powerful way to show that you never really were human. Pretending to be free was your worst mistake.

>>11314773
that or its the creepy old man or your sexist old boss who suddenly owns you, and there's nothing you can do while he shapes your body to please him and you have to listen to his condescending lectures with his cock in your mouth for the rest of your life

>>11314828
You skipped thr first most important step:
First you offer a handful of snow in then palm of your hand and order me to eat it.
Whilst i wouldn't refuse I would hesitate very much taken aback like "huh? Please!"
As you drop the snow on my head and tutb around disappointed I beg for another chance and start shovelling the cold snow into my mouth.
Then you push your foot down on the back of my head, and have me beg between mouthfuls.

>not want to drag her home
Pregnant with a girl?
Pregnant with a boy?
Disappointingly flat?
Having scars from another Masters brand?

>>11314901
Somebody like that would hold a lot if animosity and want to see you punished for all your obstinate defiance you showed them before your capturr

>>11314901
Those are some cute girls but I can't help to see they're seething pretty hard. To the point they probably would actively say "creepy old man' instead of "my Eternal and Glorious Master who brightens my pathetic life by giving me but a hint of purpose through His Will".

They'll be beaten until they understand.

>>11315042
If I can get you begging like that then I don't think I am going to be able to resist taking you home. Just adorable.

If you're heavily pregnant then I don't exactly want a child, that's really it. As for the rest?

I'm sure I can figure out the brand scars. Self harm scars would actually activate that paternalism in me more, must protect, even if there are no boobs there, literally none, I checked, a slaves devotion and obsessive worship is more than enough.

Since being forced to eat snow is also your favourite thing in the world after being properly subjugated I'd make sure you get to do it all the time when you're outside. Dirt too, during the warmer months. I'm not sure if you can swallow that properly but I'll make sure you're taken to the veterinarian somewhat often.

This animation is so hot. Slavery isn't explicitly part of cyberpunk but it seems like it's just under the surface. The idea of a street kid like Judy being helpless to admire an upper level corpo executive like Meredith, not only fucking her, recording braindances of her breaking in dolls and sex slaves for Militech is so hot. Just the idea that Judy pretends to be anything but a depraved gooner but will give it up for a hot piece of ass and probably would follow the path to corpo slavery herself if she hangs around Meredith long enough.

>>11315231
im not super familiar with cyberpunk, but the idea of being a slave to a corporate exec is actually really hot too
aside from the potential debt slavery implications, she can probably get you accustomed to a certain lifestyle and make you financial dependent on her, that even if you had a chance to get free, you couldnt realistically find another way to live

It would be so fullfilling to be trained so thoroughly that I would never even think of questioning my Master's orders ever again. There would ne no need to even chain me up anywhere if I had to wait for Master at a public place, escaping would never even come to my mind anymore. If I was told to stand completely still in a line in some dusty corner with other well trained slaves, I'd simply bow deep, reply ¨At once, Master¨, and quickly take my place in the line. Eyes forward, smile, and wait for further orders.
Life as a living, docile tool would be so simple and beautiful; just follow Master's orders and remember my training. Humans will do most of the thinking for me.

>>11315733
The solution to anxiety and mental illness for a lot of people who never really were people is just to have someone take complete control of your life so you don't have to think anymore. Even if you try, you have no choice in anything, and can only make mistakes that get you a beating, nothing worse.

Tools are so happy and so dumb. Love brainwashing things like that.

Some more slave economics musings...

As slave training and sale becomes mass industrialized, there will be a demand among upper middle class consumers for "craft slaves" to stand our and signal status/virtue. Perhaps there might be "organic" slave training centers where the slaves and trained with a more "humane" and "personalized touch", largely to justify a significantly marked up price. Maybe there would even be collusion and market manipulation on behalf of the "organic" slave trainers to ensure they consistently collect the most beautiful and healthy slaves at the start of the process, in order to market the idea that their methods result in higher quality slaves.

>>11315951
the ethical slave industry may also create incentives for women to sell themselves into slavery. better to be a pet for the ultra wealthy.

maybe a pre-sell grading industry would crop up, schools for how best to train yourself for a favorable slave grading to get sold into the ethical slavery industry.

of course, there would be lots of scams that would pretend to be ethical slave farms, but once you are sold you have no control over what happens to you...

>>11315951
I'm a firm believer that treating slaves with maybe 5% of humanity and a extremely personalized touch can train them to quite a high grade, but the key part of that is that it's only as personal slaves, once resold they go back to what most slaves are, obeying out of fear and crying all the time.

I don't think that would stop such slave traders from marketing themselves that way. Can talk to the head trader alongside his personal slave, a girl that is just heavenly to be around. Lots of money spent on beauty products, sure, but lots of training to make sure her mind is focused solely towards service. Every single movement of her body is calculated to be pleasing to the people in the room, trained in a lot of empathy so that she can pick up on what emotions people are feeling as best she can, and know exactly what to do to make them happy. All this alongside more practical domestic service skills, cooking, cleaning, cocksucking. Got loads of girls just like this down in the stable, if you want to buy one you'll even get a free blowjob from this one to seal the deal.

Of course those being sold are obviously not to the same standard, but even if they were it evaporates when in a strange unfamiliar home with a Master they for sure haven't dedicated their entire lives to. Paid a whole bunch of money to start from square one, can't know for sure if this thing has even experienced that same life you want to train for her or not.

Being a eternal slave psychiatrist anon I guess the only way this wouldn't be broadly a scam is to publish a book on how to train slaves like that. First you'll want to ask a mine or similar hard labour camp if you can take a look over their fresh intake that month before they're sent down. Then go up and down the line looking for the most pitiful runt you can find...

>>11316203
A finishing school but for girls who know they never want to be free would be one of the few ways this kind of thing could work actually. It still is entirely dependent on what Master you end up with, since any kind of slavery society no matter how "ethical" they pretend to be is just going to be that way, slave cruelty laws exist but are rarely enforced. If you escape, sure there might be a culture of people like me who take extreme pity on such creatures, but ultimately disobedience is still a horrible crime.

Still, you have a much better chance of ending up with a Master who will appreciate you writing long epic poems about how great He is that way. The trainers at the finishing school will help you stand out. For sure ending up with a Master and not a overseer, the rest is up to Him.

>>11316229
>A finishing school but for girls who know they never want to be free
different schools would have different specialties, producing high class slave wives, maids, ponygirls, petgirls...

>>11316239
That servile bag bitch who just wants to be a pack mule devoid of thought wouldn't have to hear me scold her in this thread all the time. Instead, she could have surrendered herself to one of those schools, and last had a thought complex enough to upset her 3 years ago. her crying led to collective punishment with her sister who draws the same cart, so now they work together to make sure they never think.

I'd still prefer saving the most pitful runt by paying like 50 dollars for her to be sent to me instead of the mines, but touring facilities like that would be a lot of fun. Can learn a lot seeing the slave wife training in action. How a large institution would go about training "How to look at Free People in a pleasing and respectful way" alongside "How to look at Master in a pleasing and respectful way". A lot of that is heavily personalized, but its good to see how other people train that, can help with your own work.

You should use the word "train" when talking about slaves, never "teach". Same reason why you never take them to a doctor, but a veterinarian.

>>11316239
But for me true freedom is something like >>11315733 where someone else more capable is in charge. I simply do as I'm told. It'd be extremely hot and fullfilling for me to learn hundreds of little rules and strict slave etiquette that I eventually just instictively follow as I go through my days of servitude. Just focus on serving Master, failures and disobeying only means pain anyway. Unquestioning loyalty and perfection=happiness.
I'd like to think that classes in such schools are very differently valued; slave wifes are respected (well, as much as a slave can be ¨respected¨), average work/sex slaves are mostly ignored by humans and pony slaves are considered lover than animals, so no point of even talking to them.

>>11316257
>It'd be extremely hot and fullfilling for me to learn hundreds of little rules and strict slave etiquette that I eventually just instictively follow
slaves who don't learn the rules get zapped, didn't you read the handbook?
what's that, you've been blindfolded since you were processed?
that sounds like you are blaming your masters for your failures, enjoy your stay in the punishment kennels until you learn to be more grateful

>>11316257
Yeah I don't like those girls that just want to be beasts of burden and nothing else. You were given the curse of being technically sentient without being able to handle it, a personal service slave is the best you can be, and you should aspire to be the best value for who owns you. Honestly "wife" is too positive a word, plenty of free women out there, you only superficially have the same kind of body as them, very disrespectful to think of yourself as in any way similar. "personal slave" in a pinch.

slave etiquette should be deep inside the heads of all those things, but especially after deep personal attention and training, a slave can be truly happy knowing that all those hundreds of rules have a accompanying memory of pain when she's broken them, and Master is all her little head is truly about now. True freedom for a slave is knowing that that punishment is the worst she can ever experience, she cannot make grave mistakes that ruin her life because she cannot make choices, life is simple when you only have to obey a better person.

I'm curious slave anon, I like the idea of having stuff like milestones and various ways for a slave to reflect on how far away from a human she has come. If your life started being delivered to someone, and you were told that your name is "dirtbitch", and you will call Him "Sir", as you do not deserve to have the divine title of "Master" as words in your mouth yet, would that make being called "devotion" 5 years later, having earned the privilege of saying "Master" long ago, that much sweeter?

Take a selfie with a slave the first time she's in tears from punishment. Take a lot of pictures of milestones like that honestly, but on her first anniversary of enslavement, tell her she's being given a rare gift and act of kindness, and have it be printed out and framed to put on Master's desk. Makes her reality so much more total when she has to clean Master's home and know that this memento is the first of many.

>>11316286
HEY! Don't be catty with your sisters!

You aren't allowed to even talk in such a negative way about anything. slaves exist to put smiles on peoples faces.

Be good or else instead of the designated cuddle pile on the floor next to my bed you'll both be sleeping in the making up box.

>>11316309
some slaves need to learn that masters will give them impossible tasks, and punish them for failure
if slaves could do the impossible they would be free
but they aren't so they should be thankful for their punishment and the chance to try again

>>11316311
Yes. I demand perfect service, but slaves cannot do that, even just a slight mistake happens all the time every single day, but its rare that one goes more than a few days before making mistakes that warrant being punished with the pain that never fails to bring them to tears.

Plenty of slaves are too overwhelmed at the end to kiss my boots and be properly grateful for my discipline and control but they still are, there's a reason why they don't live by iron clad rules, Master's discretion is powerful. There's a reason why slaves aren't in charge of anything, you'd see one of your sisters failing to phrase something in the exact perfect way and then demand that she be gagged for a month.

Which is the best placement for a slave brand?
Butt, legs, arms, back, forehead shoulder, hand or breast?

Lately, I've been fantasizing about a story of a girl in a slave centric society who is a member of a prestigious university where girls who are at the pinnacle of society retain their autonomy as long as they maintain a certain grade level so as to prove their worth to society.

One day, a girl who was at the peak of her class mysteriously gets a failing grade on the mid term exams and is ruled a failure and turned into a slave used as 'motivation' for her male classmates and peers. The catch? One of her academic rivals switched her test scores with those of one of the class buffoons and had her fail. By the time they figured it out, she had already been used by all the boys and could never go back to being a regular person.

Would that be for the slavery thread or the bad ends thread? There is a lot of crossover there.

>>11316397
Directly above the ass, the tramp stamp area. Accept no substitutes.

If I'm renting my slave out somewhere else she might be sent off to her shift with some brand-like bodywriting. #3 on her left boob since she's #3 in the work crew, if she's just cleaning dumpsters or something I don't need that much humiliating bodywriting, but since I also don't expect the overseer to read her file that says she will cry if you raise your voice she'll get "FRAGILE" on her forehead. People can do with that what they will.

And as always, its as a reward for a long period of service, getting branded. Bare minimum 5 years, most likely 10, Get a really large frame for the picture of her absolutely in immense pain as its burned in while I have a hand grabbing her hair for a smiling selfie. IRL if you do this a tattoo is by far the most safe, and you control her life to stop her from doing shit like getting it burned it for real, so some substitute for a extremely painful ceremony to mark this part of her life would be required.

>>11316404
I'd say bad ends thread if the story is focused heavily on the betrayal, slavery thread if its more on if that's more the initial justification for talking about what being this specific type of slave is like,

Honestly loads of overlap, I don't do the bad ends thread anyways. Slavery is a good end, you see. Be grateful.

Some slave etiquette rules, 3 upon hundreds. It is expected that slaves cannot meet these impossibly high standards, but their lives are defined by existing to try as hard as they possibly can, forever.

1. Always beg, never ask. "Please Master may I kiss your divine boots?" is the minimum."Please Master, please my eternal and glorious dominion over my pitful existence, please allow me to worship those perfect boots! Please!" is a example of a extreme that is often too far. You must must know the exact line to go to for the right situation. Any less or more intense is punishable.

2. When at home, you always orient you body in a way that compliments and worships Master drawing any possible attention off of you and onto him. You kneel under his desk when idle, but when doing your daily chores and duties, you always look at either him or your work, never the outside world. There is only you and Master, unless told otherwise. Kneel on the floor facing him and him alone, do not concern yourself with the outside world, if Master wishes for you to even look at something else you will be told to.

3. slaves are comfort and are often furniture. They are not allowed to use any furniture. Only with clear, explicit permission, will a slave touch anything other than the floor. Obviously a slave is not stupid enough to even beg to sit in a chair, but for stuff like rugs permission can be begged for. A very comfy rug is almost the same as a chair, and would be punishable to insult Master by thinking you deserve it. There's a middle ground where if Master is in a good mood, and your begging makes him happy and isn't another punishable act, you can be granted to kneel there. And other times, there are surfaces rough enough for a slave to be right in kneeling on, even if rougher ones are nearby, that begging for permission would be a hassle and punishable, but trying to go for the roughest surface possible would slow you down and thus also be punishable.

>>11315072
>If you're heavily pregnant then I don't exactly want a child, that's really it. As for the rest?
No i mean would you leave the slave there, would you take the slave and abort, take the slave and sell the baby, or would you have the slave raise the baby (either as an heir, or as a slave)
>Since being forced to eat snow is also your favourite thing in the world after being properly subjugated I'd make sure you get to do it all the time when you're outside. Dirt too, during the warmer months.
Sounds horrible, would there at least be some conditioning to make it more enjoyable for the poor slave, or would you rather revel in the sadism from it?

>>11315733
even if there's no need for the chains, it's still a vital part of the aesthetic and feeling. but i know how you feel otherwise. wanting somebody you can be that dependent on, and so reliant on getting their praise, even if it's rarely given, so you have to try and gauge how satisfied the Master is with you/me/us

>>11315951
there would be "organic free-range" plantations, with their own specific brand.
However, they would only give it tot he upper echelon and higher tier slaves raised. Lower classes would be branded with a slight off-shape version of the logo, and sold direct as reduced price fakes with no warranty.
Not only would this increase the brand recognition and value for their high class slaves, but the owning company would also get to dominate the counterfeit market with cheap slop fakes like me.
On the subject of fake scams, there's a lot of money in selling collector's sets, (mother/daughter, sisters, bffs, corrected lovers), so how would you go about instilling it convincingly if you were a seller, or disproving it as the buyer?

>>11316397
should be multiple, at least one is needed on the trampstamp or butt, and another on the tumy and or breast. face is reserved for those who deserve to be looked at with complete revulsion

>>11316746
>Pregnant slaves
Oh absolutely I would have aborted. Just not at all into having a child anywhere near this, both in fantasy world and IRL. But she's already impressed me so much, not going to just leave her there even if taking her to the veterinarian costs extra money.

>Eating dirt conditioning vs. sadism
Depends on how they react to it honestly. I got onto this because that creature was weirdly horny about being forced to eat snow, which is very different from dirt. Ordering her to drop to her knees and shovel snow in, and then if she hesitates in any way just grabbing her by her hair and forcing her face in there is a lot of fun, unless she's really horny for eating dirt like that it'd only really be a threat to do it anywhere close to as much during the warmer months. Still need to follow through on that threat maybe 2 or 3 times a year, this isn't really meant to be completely empty, but the rest of the time it's fun to tease her that she actually loves it just as much as snow, and will never live down how she acted when she first saw her Master "God I know you are just dripping looking at that patch of mud, but I'd have to hose you down when we got home. Maybe next time, dipshit."

>wanting somebody you can be that dependent on, and so reliant on getting their praise, even if it's rarely given,
I mean you say that, but slaves are just such praise and headpat sluts. Every single one. Makes it hard not to give it to them all the time.

Sure not every single task will result in a headpat and a "good girl", but the fact that so many people just treat slaves with complete disdain makes this kind of treatment mush up their brains even more, making them even more dependent. Its great.

>cheap slop fakes like me
New humiliating slave name just dropped.

Sold as a pair, "dipshit" and "slop", if they work together they may earn better names, or even the privilege of being forced into chains.

for slaves with dicks and balls-
do you keep them in chastity or let them free?
are they allowed sex (as reward or punishment) or only masturbation?
are they milked regularly, or only as it suits the master/mistress?
what happens to the cum? (is it harvested, do they have to eat it, used to impregnate other slaves, etc)

>>11317034
I'd prefer a girl first, but for a second a boy can be nice. I can always force fem him later if I change my mind.

Chastity cages look far better than chastity belts on his sister, I'd prefer one of those flat ones but most of the time its more practical to go with something like picrel. Same "femboy pink" colour too, whenever I give slaves actual real clothes that are more than just rags in a attempt to make them look good its the same sort of deal, hyperfemme and extremely pink. He is no different than his sister in any way.

The default is being caged up but I do like letting such things out, considering how visible they are when aroused, and honestly how much fun they are to torture. Figure out what makes him especially hard, tease and scold him all the time about it, probably making him even harder, while subjecting him to long sessions of edging. Enlist the help of his sister, whose soft hands and mouth have spent a long time figuring out how to make cocks feel good, which is the closest to sex both of these creatures get, there will be unimaginable torture if he fails me.

And yes, only get permission to cum from supervised masturbation. Once a week, kneel on the floor in a line, and jerk it out staring up at Master. Most of the time slaves are ordered to just get some paper towel to clean up the mess they made on my floors, if they've been especially good servants this week they get to shove their face into the floor immediately and lick it up. If I am especially pleased, my hand or my boot will assist.

>>11315072
>>11316746
>Slave Pregnancy
I'm thinking in most cases that wouldn't be possible in the first place.
Both female and male slaves are legally required be Fixed before being sold(Spayed and neutered)
For slaves to be bred they're subjected to eugenics testing, passing means females are marked as breeding slaves and males as studs.
This comes in the form of a Pubic tattoo and registration number tattoo(Fxx-xxx or Mxx-xxx female/male number)
If you find a breeding bitch or stud and for some reason there's no owner attached to their number there's no reason not to take them in.
It's a quality slave and it's Free!

>>11316746
>dealing with her offspring
Depends on what her eugenics records have on file.
If she's bred for intelligence then have them raised as assistants for white collar work.
Pleasure or beauty bloodlines are better suited as domestic or concubine roles.
Alternatively renting her womb out for studs is a good option if dealing with her offspring would be too troublesome

>>11317143
I was thinking formerly free but desperate to escape the winters streets and save their baby, so no records or pedigree on file, but not yet spayed or neutered

>>11317002
How would you react I'd they only submitted on the provision that the baby was spared, and has to be written into the enslavement contract?

>>11317143
Even in IRL it's only right to fix slaves. I would say their bloodline ends with them but its disrespectful to the people who tried their best to raise this thing to ever consider them capable of being a person. Their former family tried their best, its not their fault at all.

>fantasy world slave breeding
Maybe this stuff feels especially ick to me since I was the type of kid who knew he never wanted kids when he was like 6 years old, but with the bloodline talk I do actually like the idea of getting a slave from a long line of slaves.

Maybe make it more institutional, like this is a slave from the Stonewine facility in one of the larger cities. girls and boys born here are trained in a similar way, leading to the boys being more feminine than most others, but they are meant for general purpose service in private homes so it fits. All slaves understand that they have no rights whatsoever, and just because they grew up being trained for one type of service doesn't mean they won't ever be reassigned where their betters choose, but the facility trains for the basic grunt work in a persons home. Cooking, cleaning, less emphasis on sexual service, and very basic non-linear thinking. Conditions are much better than slaves meant for hard labour, but still nowhere close to those meant for close and high grade personal service. Hygeine, make-up, slave etiquette, all done to a moderate standard. Beaten down enough to rarely have idea's above their station, least likely to bully fellow slaves as opposed to those above and below.

>>11317161
To be clear, she wants to still have her baby, but have it be set free and sent to a orphanage or something?

Yeah that's fine. Just don't want to have a kid grow up with a bad role model for a woman, or even be in this kind of life at all. He or she can come visit mom when they're a adult if they want, but only when they're grown up.

>>11316746
>even if there's no need for the chains, it's still a vital part of the aesthetic and feeling.
Oh, I do like the extreme opposite as well where the slaves are locked in some kind of a public maximum security area where they have to wait for their Masters. The thought of being stored away like some object, and with zero freedom of movement is hot. Maybe the system would make us repeat some kind of mantras out loud as well, otherwise we'd get shocked. Good way to get some extra training for the new slaves too.

>>11317199
Don't like leaving my slaves in such a thing as punishment that much. Big reason why I don't have much relevant pictures, but I do think something like that could be more humane if you had to leave a slave at home long term. I'd prefer not to leave her abandoned for so long, but its worse for her to have to tend to a home only filled with appliances like her.

The shocks are a good idea. She should still get her 6 hours of rest, but I'd make sure the pod she is locked in has good enough voice recognition, since the rest of the day I will have told her to compose 3 distinct poems beforehand about how great her slavery is and how grateful she is to serve that she will be reciting at least one of every 10 minutes until I come to retrieve her. This alongside making sure there's a way to display one of those memento portraits of me and her in her little prison for her to see. One of the ones where she is not in pain, maybe. Like smiling since she was granted a piece of cardboard to sleep on instead of simply just the floor for her 2 year anniversary.

If its more than a week I would stipulate in the contract with the slave storage center that every sunday someone has to come and let her out, supervise her while she comes back home, cleans it tops to bottom, and masturbates staring up at some especially central portrait, but eh, if I need to be gone somewhere for more than like two weeks I should just say either im bringing my slave or im not doing that. Look these things will just go crazy and need heavy adjustment back to the exact kind of crazy I trained them to be if its that long. You'll like seeing this thing I own anyways, she's very cute.

Slaves belong in three categories: Labor, House, and Breeding. Slaves would be genetically tested for their abilities, diseases, and identification of any sort of abnormalities. Though the caste system for slaves depends upon their genetics, there is also a way for slaves to be upgraded based on their age as well as work ethic.

Labor slaves are the workers, who toil in the fields, building houses or industry, and general operations. Slaves who work as a Labor have it rougher than most, depending on the Master's use for them. Between regular check-ups (because some are more disposed to carry disease frrom the work they do), labor slaves are fed actually a good diet to keep themselves healthy enough to continue to work 6 days of the week, and their day off is usually to maintain their stables. It's not uncommon to hear that a female work slave was raped then became pregnant from another work slave, or group raped.

House slaves are butlers, maids, cooks, and general purpose slaves. These generally are weaker, unable to do hard labor or sometimes amputated slaves. Pregnant work slaves are promoted to this role to protect their bodies so they can bear their offspring. These slaves are usually older, pregnant, or children of work slaves and provide care taking for the other slaves and their Masters. House slaves are prohibited strictly from sexual conduct, more often than not, punished heavily for rape or sexual misconduct.

Breeding slaves are rare, usually the top percentile of slaves tat meet the requirements for genetics, aesthetics, and beauty. Screening for breeding slaves is a strict and unilaterally robust, making sure that the highest quality is guaranteed to produce better offspring. More often than not, breeding slaves are restricted in clothing, usually the Master provides them with clothing fit for their purpose, and usually presented during parties to show off their glamour.

See the picture related for a very thankful breeding slave

>>11315733
>>11315842
>Be Femaon, fresh slave from the newest batch and put on the store front display
>Quickly bought up and packed into master's trunk for the drive home
>Seems to be quite a long and bumpy one, he must live far out there.
>Your new home is what your master calls a "Modest" Mcmansion out in the country side
>compared to the kennel you were raised in it's unimaginably big
>Even more surprising is realize master already has a butler bot 9600, odd considering he bought you as a slave.
>It soon becomes apparent master wanted a pet & toy over having you doing "real" house work.
>some times he'll use you as a living fruit plater, often using it as an excuse to molest you during his meals.
>He might have you in a Lewd maid outfit ordered to clean spots left by the bot, conveniently forcing you to bend over or stretch your body giving master a show.
>"Bedtime play" of course is always the highlight of the day master trains your body to be his perfect sex doll, leaving you exhausted and fucked silly nearly every night
>If during the day he has you idle your expected to stay at his side awaiting his orders.
>Although that usually means causal lewdity, even if he's not fucking you he'll have toys in you and hands playing with your holes
>thus begins your days as an empty headed fuck toy for your benevolent pervert of a master.

>>11317468
Big fan of living in some post-scarcity society but still having slaves. Honestly there's not -that- much house work to do in a day if you have no choice, although maybe a larger mansion would, but it'd still be super dehumanizing to know a robot could do a good chunk of your day and Master just sees it as a way to prove your usefulness.

All personal slaves tend to be sex slaves first though, its just how it is. A life of pleasure and happiness, for your Master. There's a reason any slave of mine has her best skill listed as "cocksucking", its what you do most of your life, and you get good at it. Sure you may cook and clean but I like blowjobs, and thus so do you.

My slaves have never once worn clothes when inside my home. Their body is a temple to Master and my benevolent rule over their life, and it is one I have built well. When receiving guests, they tend to light up after seeing what I have in store for them. girls who look that way tend to have a lot more than just looks, everything else about their life is equally Master's choice.

>>11317161
>desperate to escape the winters streets and save their baby
Whole idea of institutionalizing the raising of slaves in >>11317166
Seems like a good fit here, prevents down time of slave women and unnecessary loyalties for male slaves.
Also just want to focus of the "Dehumanizing" aspect to this where slaves aren't "born" its more seen as like they're produced like any other home applaince/tool.
At least that's the case for your mass produced menial labor slaves.

>>11317394
>Slaves belong in three categories: Labor, House, and Breeding
Really love castes systems like this it's the reason why you have faceless labor slaves.
Yet at the same time you have hand crafted sex pets that master's genuinely care about.

Also semi-related but, im thinking there's a Roman esque aspect of male slaves being part of the breeding/sex pet caste.
Mostly with the ideal of breeding these "males" to be femboys, they're bred to be bottoms.
They serve as sex pets same as their female counter parts

>>11317490
>dehumanizing to know a robot could do a good chunk of your day
>Master just sees it as a way to prove your usefulness
That's one part of it, her duties as a slave Can be done by a robot yes.
But master bought her for the fun of toying with a good girl, a good slave dreams of a empty headed life spent serving her master.
Even if that includes the drudgery of domestic work, and that's the case for most slaves not everyone can have the top of the line butler bot.

>Their body is a temple to Master and my benevolent rule over their life
Perfect way of putting it, for slaves to be used Purely for pleasure and nothing else?
That's a privilege and she knows it, her daily "house work" is little more then play work or very minor menial work that can be sexualized.
IE Being a drink serving girl for master, that of course leaves her open to being molested.
That's the gist of it here, rolling the cosmic dice of fate and landing life as a sex toy.
Make master feel good, you'll be pleasured in return

>>11317394
Introducing some slave economic terms to help with this categorization.

Mean Training Time (MTT): For a given slave role, average amount of time (usually measured in hours) for a slave to be trained to perform tasks adequately.

Pre-sale Training Time (PTT): Amount of time a (specific) slave has been trained up to the point of sale for its intended purpose and tasks. If this value ends up exceeding the MTT, a slave is generally considered subpar quality and sold on secondary markets.

Expected Break-in Time (EBT): Amount of time a buyer is expected to train their slaves after purchase. Generally calculated as MTT-PTT. In theory, intended to allow buyers to "personalize" aspects of their slave training so that a slave sold for a general category of labor can be tailored for their master's needs. However, in practice this serves as a sort of "trial warranty" for slaves, where a buyer is expected to train a slave for at least the EBT before issuing complaints and returning. A slave with high EBT is generally going to be lower price, but is considered a more long term investment, while a low EBT slave is cheap but high risk, as a high PTT could indicate a slave is hard to train.

Daily Upkeep (DU): Total costs for a (specific) slave's needs and provisions. Generally, housing is not included in this category unless the slave's role involves something complex and technical. Food is a fairly small piece of this cost since slave feed is very cheap to mass produce. The largest factors are generally clothing, hygienic products, and medical care.

>>11317540
Productiveness Index (PI): Fraction of a slave's daily time (generally standardized by first subtracting 8 hours for sleep) directly engaged in work related to the slave's sold role, usually expressed as a number from 0 to 1. Mealtimes, bathroom breaks, and grooming subtract from this, but usually not by much as slaves of all classes are trained to do these tasks quickly. The main detractions generally come in time needed to discipline a slave, as well as breaks or rest a slave takes outside of their allocated 8 hours. Note that for some more intense jobs (like Labor slaves), it is very rare for a slave to have a PI higher than 0.7. For Breeding slaves, this number is nearly 1.0 as most of the slave's activity in the day assists with her purpose. For other roles like slaves bought mainly as sex toys, the PI isn't very important as the slaves are only used for limited times of the day.

Expected Annual Depreciation (EAD): For a given slave role, the 95th percentile of depreciation (usually expressed as a percentage) in a slave's value one year after first purchase. In other words, if you were to sell a slave a year after buying her, there is an 95% chance that her value would decrease by the EAD or more. There are some very specific roles, usually in certain kinds of crafts where hands-on experience greatly improves the slave's skill, where this can be close to zero or even negative. But the vast majority of slaves undergo some level of depreciation.

Chance of Replacement (CR): Technically, the probability that a slave's value will depreciate by 100% in one year. However, a slave dying or being incapacitated is considered the same as having a 100% depreciation value, even though that doesn't actually involve resale. For particularly high CR slave roles, slaves are often sold in bulk.

>>11317547
Expected Longevity (EL): The expected number of years a slave will be able to carry out labor for its sold task. Dependent on a slave's current age and the type of labor involved. Note that this can't be directly calculated just from the CR at the time of sale, as factors like aging may not come into play until several years into ownership.

Together, EBT, DU, PI, EAD, CR, and EL are used to calculate a slave's Cumulative Estimated Value (CEV), a normalized score from 0-100 indicating how much value a slave will generate over its time of service to its master, after break-in and upkeep costs are factored. Thus, a slave's price will generally be decided by its CEV, PTT, and the market demand for a given slave role.

Finally, we have sexual scores. The main metric here is Degree of Sexual Invitation (DSI), although it's often just colloquially "fuckability", expressed on a scale of 0 to 10. The measurement is fairly simple, if crude:

10 random men between 20 and 25 attracted to the slave's sex are chosen. Each of them (separately and with a blindfolder) is jerked off to orgasm by a "fluffer" slave. After this, the blindfold is removed, and they are shown the slave being scored, displayed nude and made to perform any seductive maneuvers. The men are then asked, "would you fuck her/him?" The number of men saying "yes" is the DSI.

I don't like when then enslavement is instant or predetermined, I really like the dynamic of corruption, barganing and surrender. So I like to imagine a totalitarian country where every citizen is assigned points and demerits for everything he does. Temporary enslavement is a very common punishment, A girl got found cheating on exams? For a few weeks, she's enslaved to her rival, the best student in the class, and has to call him master, follow him obediently, bow her head, help him study and satisfy him sexually. A girl cursed in public? She has to partake in a several day-long shibari exposition as a living statue.
There would be strict rules and regulations for such temporary slaves, you couldn't beat them up or rape them. Most would work menial jobs, like girls serving as maids or waitresses in skimpy revealing suits. You could give them a little slap on the butt or grope their breasts for a while but that's all... unless they've earned a punishment.
They would earn some points to pay for their demerits and return to society. Some people would make it easy, others would try to make it as hard as possible, always testing your obedience and submission. You forgot to call him Sir? And what was that smirk? That will extend your enslavement by another week. You spilled his drink? Better prostrate yourself and beg so he picks the least harsh from the list of punishments.
I'd like everyone to experience being enslaved at least once. Maybe like a gap year at school, though a year is way too much. You could call it "being a public servant".

>>11317564
Of course, the fun part is that if you're temporarily enslaved but keep earning demerits, you will lose more and more of your human rights. Right to speak, right to clothes, right to not be fucked, right to not be slapped on the face etc. There would be an app so anyone can read your tag and open up your profile to see what demerits you're getting and what can be done to you, and what rights you have left.

I like to imagine starting out raking leaves for a week for dropping trash, but my Master takes a liking for me, or rather, he takes pity on me, thinks free life is not right for me, so he takes it upon himself to test me, see me fail, discipline me, make me fall lower and lower.

Once you're enslaved for too long you are deemed unfit for human treatement. Your previous life gets wiped off your profile, along with your name and all your remaining rights. You are chipped, branded and collared forever. Some slaves are sold off, others are state-assigned. I imagine that girl who cheated will come back as a class servant, doing everything from cleaning the classroom and carrying their bags to emptying their balls and being their stress-relief.

I think in the modern day, a very common punishment would be becoming a "surrogate mother" where some upstanding citizen gets you to serve him for a year, where he has to impregnate you, though you don't have to take care of his kid afterwards.

>>11317199
yeah fully restrained and waiting for Master to return, it trains you to wait and really listen out for Master's return (if He comes back, and hasn't deservedly abandoned us for being so useless). Then there's the absolute betrayal when Master does return, only to stiffen the restraints or some other way to heighten our torment. The muffled begging we call out to Him as He leaves must sound very enjoyable.

>>11317394
i like the caste system but i have it more as
>House slaves (upper class Master, female slave)
>House slaves (middle class Master, female slave)
>Work slaves (Male)
>House slaves (lower class Master, female slave)
>Breeding sows and outlets for the work slaves
Of course male slaves can be kept as house slaves too, but this is very rare, and entering a human house is taboo to most male slaves the same way going on human furniture is taboo for fem slaves


>>11317524
with that it was free to begin with, but willing to trade it for the security of a gilded cage

>>11317564
>I really like the dynamic of corruption, barganing and surrender.
yeah that's why i just can't gel with imagining "bred in captivity"

>>11316746
>No i mean would you leave the slave there, would you take the slave and abort, take the slave and sell the baby, or would you have the slave raise the baby (either as an heir, or as a slave)
An already pregnant slave is a demonstrated breeder. Not all women can get pregnant easily or carry a baby to term. And after the birth, as long as I have the child, the mother will do whatever I want to protect it. Absolute enslavement.

>>11317534
Ah I think I understand. The roll of the cosmic dice to end up with a Master who has a philosophy of building your body up same as me, but just to be used for sex.

Personally though, I think it does a slave well to still spend a lot of her life as a sex toy, but also still have the drudgery of domestic service to the person she is bound to, let me explain.

Think about serving drinks. You'd be resting under Master's desk for most of your life, but more active service like kneeling directly next to him, holding the drink for him to grab and drink from but also finding the right pose to display your body to him within groping distance. I spend a lot of time and effort making your body just heavenly, so knowing that every time I even touch you is a great experience for me is just the height of what a slave wants to be, improving a room by the presence of her sculpted nude body, knowing that when im done with that drink you're probably being ordered back under the desk to also suck cock.

Now additionally to being that toy, if your duties also included making that drink for Master, cleaning up the dishes, making sure that the floor you kneel on is so spotless you could even lick up a few splashes of it down there. All of this stuff does need to be done, sure, but even in a world where a robot could do it I think it makes for a stronger bond being forced to do all those things. You get to understand that you are a thing and a appliance deep down, but Master's most valued one. If you're just a toy, sure I still love toys, but you're just one type of thing. A slave is multi-purpose, making you more central to my life than just a toy.

Plus sculpting your body is relatively easy compared to sculpting your mind. Its a much more powerful mark of Mastery that when you were free you lived in a depression nest, when enslaved Master made sure your mind was His, and you had no choice in being well enough that you keep a flawless home for Him.

>>11316286
>what's that, you've been blindfolded since you were processed?
>>11312267
"You are now my blind servant; on top of your uniform, put on these contacts every morning." From then on they have to do all their tasks and chores without sight; and I get to watch as they methodically feel things out, acting by touch and hearing to orient themselves, struggling to complete tasks which to a sighted slave would take minimal effort.
But as they practice and learn, expectations on performance will rise back up; maybe they might not get back to being as fast and efficient as before (at least not until they have several years of practice), but after a while they'd certainly be expected to not bumble about, learn to navigate confidently and practice common tasks well enough. One doesn't need sight to set a table if one knows the layout of the kitchen and dining room, and is proficient at feeling out for obstacles in front of them (like misplaced chairs or mingling guests).
Contact lenses are superior to blindfolds in my opinion because it's both more convenient and more inconspicuous. A blindfold can slip off or get tugged off, a contact lens will stay in unless you specifically work to get it out. A blindfold is also a huge "HELLO THIS SLAVE CAN'T SEE" bondage implement, while a contact lens just blends in seamlessly in the eye. The slave is restricted and deprived of a core sense, but doesn't even look bound or restricted; a guest might not even be able to tell that a practiced slave is a blinded one, not without studying them for long enough to deduce it from their movement patterns and behavior.
At the same time I'm, again, not cruel, and would not want to permanently cripple or disfigure any good slaves. Contact lenses provide temporary blindness, but are completely reversible. I might grant the slave "days off" where they'd get to see for the entire day, for example.

>>11317797
>Contact lenses are superior to blindfolds in my opinion because it's both more convenient and more inconspicuous. A blindfold can slip off or get tugged off, a contact lens will stay in unless you specifically work to get it out. A blindfold is also a huge "HELLO THIS SLAVE CAN'T SEE" bondage implement, while a contact lens just blends in seamlessly in the eye. The slave is restricted and deprived of a core sense, but doesn't even look bound or restricted; a guest might not even be able to tell that a practiced slave is a blinded one, not without studying them for long enough to deduce it from their movement patterns and behavior.
sometimes blindfolds can provide a nice aesthetic appeal

have there been studies done on long term use of blindfolds? if someone is blindfolded for days/weeks/months what happens?

>>11317964
>sometimes blindfolds can provide a nice aesthetic appeal
True, but it also makes it obvious to others that the slave is blindfolded. Also, you can't see their expressions as well.
>have there been studies done on long term use of blindfolds?
I'm sure. Or just studies on people who were blind for x number of years before their vision as surgically restored.
I'd love to keep a sub blind for 3 months to see (pun) how well they adapt to their condition. Longest I've kept someone blind with enses was about 9 or 10 hours, and she was exhausted.
There are some 30 day lenses so, with occasional rest, it remains a possibility.
There's also hypnotic blindness, but I've had no luck with it.

>>11317971
>True, but it also makes it obvious to others that the slave is blindfolded. Also, you can't see their expressions as well.
i go back and forth on this
sometimes im with you and want to see the expression
sometimes i like the faceless/hood look where i dont care if she's happy or sad, crying or moaning, quivering in pain or pleasure, as long as she follows orders

>>11318014
But it's such a mindjob to not feel anything on your face yet be in total darkness. Never knowing if they're truly alone. Plus they protect the anonymity of any clients.

>>11317564
You're on to something I think.
That's why I like it when slavery is not from birth as well. At that point the slave has never known freedom so they'll be numb to it. Having slavery be something a slave descends into makes it more hot.
That's kind of what I was trying to go for here >>11312574

>everyone to experience being enslaved at least once. Maybe like a gap year at school, though a year is way too much
I don't think a year is necessarily too much. Perhaps men have mandatory military service while women have mandatory slave service.
Maybe it could even be sort of a "debt" system. Women upon turning 18 accrue 6 months worth of "slave debt" which they must work off through service. Buying off that slave debt with money is practically impossible because the actual holder of the debt is the government, and the "slave owner" is leasing her.
Naturally, debt earns interest, and the natural term is longer than 6 months when unmodified. However, very few women serve the unmodified term. Rather, modifications are applied based on things like school performance and aptitude screened by exam. The end result is that the typical initial term is anywhere between 2-12 months.
Lots of little things can result in a demerit that increases debt, and of course that debt scales based on existing debt due to interest. Women with only 2 months to start often get off by the third and are then free. However, those who start with 12 months typically serve at least 3 years. Little things like improper prostration and forgetting to say sir really add up.
Once a woman's debt has exceeded 7 years, the restrictions applied to temporary slaves are lifted. Until the end of the term, such women are automatically consenting to all acts for legal purposes. It's commonly believed that 7+ year terms indicate one who belongs in slavery.

>>11318129
Yeah I don't like when slaves are slaves from birth, knowing what freedom is and knowing just how different their lives are now that it belongs to someone else is key to just completely making a slave my own. It does get along with my view of slavery being a deeply intense and personal experience between Master and slave, it is still a romantic relationship, sort of.

Im not sure I like the debt system described but I can't exactly detail why. I like the forsaken idea, but it being magic means that the need to serve deep inside of you just literally cannot be ignored, there's none of these choices made to give in to just how you never were a person anyways, which makes it so much more powerful as you cede more and more of your life away to someone who will use it better.

Any attempt to institutionalize this type of thing in fantasy world building will likely end up with similar problems since more than a few of these ideas step over each other, often times in way that should be mutually exclusive. Sure I want to deeply brainwash a formerly free former human but having a aisle at the slave market for discount reject cat girls also sounds fun. There's far too many of them, the runt will love you even more for taking pity on her in such a world. Even if she has 3 ears for some reason.

>Master is having friends over
>You don't have to worry about them
>As you are part of tonight entertainment

>>11318287
The primary difference is that when you're idle, you won't be kneeling before Master staring at Him and Him alone, you'll instead be kneeling on the floor infront of Him while having your back to Him, looking at the guests while being completely at attention since you will be service and entertainment both.

Be a good girl! If you aren't, then your punishment will also be entertainment.

>>11317964
>have there been studies done on long term use of blindfolds? if someone is blindfolded for days/weeks/months what happens?
There's this reddit post but I still don't fully believe it. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/f5qjy/iama_girl_who_spent_roughly_16_months_as_a_full/

>>11318724
Wow is that post seriously 15 years ago now? It probably still does come up a lot googling for BDSM stuff on reddit.

I don't think its entirely truthful either, although less entirely fabricated BDSM wish fulfillment, more maybe building ontop of a real experience to be more like they wish they had. Has a lot of marks of a horny slave fantasizing about stuff actually, hard to describe exactly what im seeing there but I don't think a dom would write this even posing as a slave. Just a lot of, you know, extreme stuff one after another, ontop of the Master being a flawed but still baseline caring kind of dude.

I can believe that light would really hurt after doing that long term. I don't quite like blindfolds or even the lenses, slaves are meant to see who they serve in order to see their expressions and emotions so they can assist in making them feel better, but that anon who loves this stuff talking about a slave being able to navigate Master's home just by memory and feel alone is pretty hot, would probably do that for a short period if any property of mine is especially horny for this. After extracting a price, of course. Not going to indulge them in something without having them pay for it with some torture session.

>>11317468
>>11318287
This is something that I love; whenever I'm not needed, I simply walk to the nearest corner and just quietly stand and wait there for more orders. It's so hot to imagine myself being trained and broken in such a way that shutting down like that comes totally normal. When Master doesn't have use for me I'm only wasting his space, so it's only natural for me to store myself away like that and wait for his next command. My entire life is his to use as he sees fit.
Honestly this is something I do for real every now and then as well whenever I have some time to ¨relax¨; I walk to the corner of my livingroom and just stand there naked, eyes forward and smiling, trying to think as little as possible. I imagine that my Master is sitting on the couch and I'm quietly waiting for his orders. I also turn on the tv for realism, not that I ever even watch it though.
Guess I'm weird.

>>11318856
>Guess I'm weird.
Yes, but that's what slaves are, that's actually one of the cuter things ive heard one admit to.

How long are you able to sustain doing something like that? I'd give any prospective slave a headpat for telling me that, that's exactly the type of not normal I like, but if you're such a mushbrain you are able to do that for hours or more without direction then that's such a good girl that won't ever have delusions about being a person.

>>11317034
>do you keep them in chastity or let them free?
Every single male slave I get is both getting feminized and is getting a inverted chastity cage with a foot long urethral tube. In addition to this, they get wear high heels, corsets, collars, nipple clamps, butt plugs, fishnets, etc.
However, progressing to bigger chastity cages is allowed, tho extremely hard and dependent on luck, me liking said slave and said slaves family. The next tier of chastity cages would be a flat chastity cage and would be dependent on perfect behavior and by extreme dedication by said slave's family members. The best almost every slave would be able to get from me would be a nub chastity cage, which would depend on both perfect behaviour by the slave, his family and me being thankful to them and/or having a strong emotional connection to them.
As for being released from the cage, no, pretty much never.
>are they allowed sex or only masturbation?
Each male slave is expected to have daily sex with a female slave. Except, the sex is the one in which the female slave (all of whom are well fed, physically strong and fit field working slaves and whose default attire is being naked and wearing a large strap-on) fucks the male slave in the ass.
As for any slaves which get up to nub cages, they would be allowed alternate methods. Since I like keeping the family together, if they have a mother/sister/daughter that is willing to, they can replace being railed in the a by a female slave with the above mentioned sucking on their nub chastity cage until the male slave orgasms and then swallowing the semen.
>are they milked regularly, or only as it suits the master/mistress?
The slaves orgasming, except in the case of the nub caged ones, is entirely unimportant.
>what happens to the cum?
Unless the slave is in a nub cage, the slave eats the cum, if he's in a nub cage, whoever made them cum eats it (most often, the mother/sister of the slave).

>Rent my slaves out to local businesses a couple times a month, just to help them be grateful that they are domestic servants
>Usually it's the hardest of hard labour, but got a offer for a "Retail Servile Assistant"
>It's punishment permissions are harsher than usual. Like picrel, stress positions, public humiliation, and whipping that little brain between their legs, not that my girls have ever needed to use it.
>It would just be trying to improve the life of every free person in that store, so I doubt my slaves would cause any trouble anyways
>Sent my bitch pepsitits, she's a good girl, maybe 3% better at sucking cock than her sister
>Phone goes off with a few tips, alongside video
>Picrel is happening, except she's trying her hardest to plaster that forced smile on
>Fantastic. Just as I hoped.
>Very good girl, gets praise, headpats, and even gets to sleep in Master's bed that night upon coming home
>Turns out every single rental girl is punished for not looking at her overseer with appropriate reverence at that store

>>11319413
Thinking about this some more, I love the idea of having two slaves, but only renting out the one, so that Master can still have service. Having something like that come over my phone while my other slave is currently idle kneeling under my desk, resting her head on my leg, knowing that she doesn't deserve explanations of anything but just hearing the audio come through while I watch it on my phone.

>oh no! my slave sister is in pain! did she do something wrong?
>i can hear her yelps and cries alongside laughter of a room full of human beings, that's a relief!
>she's just being tortured for their entertainment
>it's such a honour to serve people that way, knowing that our usual pain and suffering can put smiles on the faces of people who matter
>i think when Master looks at that black rectangle it can show Him where He's sent us, but im not too sure. i'm just a slave, if Master hasn't told me it then i don't deserve to know

>>11317468
My favorite role as a slave
>I'm not really needed for cleaning or other chores.
>I just dress in skimpy sexy outfits and I keep master pleasured and get taken everywhere master goes
That is the best life for a slave.

>>11318878
Usually as long until I hear the program end on the tv (I imagine Master turning off the tv afterwards), it kind of adds to the thrill, since it could be anything from 15 minutes to a long movie. The longest I've done it was probably ¨watching¨ Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, the movie had just started. Still, I loved it.

>>11320178
I'm that anon who was talking about how domestic drudgery adds to the life of a slave and helps connect it to its owner, so my thoughts are well known but yes, the best parts of a slaves life is always when it's just being pleasurable to Master.

Thankfully that's most of such a thing's tiny existence. There's not many good reasons to have you not be at my side, all of them are the aforementioned domestic toil, so wherever I go for any reason its only right that I have my slave following a step behind me. It reflects well on my ability to control and lead former people that the girl that follows me around everywhere has no choice in being the best bit of eye candy possible, and her skills to make people happy don't stop there.

>>11320186
I talk about slaves having special brains sometimes, being able to come up with things that I never really would have, and just turning on live broadcast TV to come up with this weird system is one of them.

That movie does have a run time of over 2 hours which its been so long since ive watched live TV at all but even with the cuts I know the commercials would stretch it out even more. Even roughly 2 hours is a good record, a slave would very often listen to a lot of media, but thats not for them, their attention is focused on Master for a reason.

I'm not as much a fan of stuffing a slave into a corner when not in use, like to have her kneel before Master instead, providing service just by having a nice nude body in view. This might be because I don't even have a TV, have used a conventional desktop PC as my primary for my entire life, but next time you play this little game try kneeling infront of the couch. You'll have to fill in with imagining Master since you're supposed to be given direction for when He wants you to quietly kneel in a nadu pose versus looking up with your more crazy yandere eyes and then more active forms of service, but I do wonder how different it will feel.

>>11319229
>Each male slave is expected to have daily sex with a female slave. Except, the sex is the one in which the female slave (all of whom are well fed, physically strong and fit field working slaves and whose default attire is being naked and wearing a large strap-on) fucks the male slave in the ass
I like that dynamic. It's fun to imagine house slaves standing outside with refreshments begging the farm hands to bend them over a fence or plow them in a barn. If he fails the overseer might milk him in more a extreme and uncomfortable way.

>>11317684
I like wide collars like this, slaves shouldn't wear anything subtle or pretty. Makes it clear for everyone what we are.

>>11321129
Its a shame there aren't too many pictures of the kind of collars I love, a few pounds of heavy metal around your neck and limbs, a constant companion for the rest of your life.

Way harder for someone to misunderstand what you are if they try to talk to you like you understand human conversation and just are met with your eyes downcast and something like that around your neck. "please speak with my Master, Sir/Miss" at best, nervous silence most likely.

If someone mistakes you for a person out in public then it's also my failing for not training you properly. Only going to get punished if you make mistakes during additional public slave etiquette training. Its not your fault someone was too optimistic about you being a human being.

>>11320186
>>11320208
I take a teasing tone with slaves, its what they deserve, but im not kidding, I do actually really love the idea of a unowned slave coming up with something like that to help calm her down. Made me want to think of something similar.

When you're feeling especially upset, and stripping off your rags hasn't helped, get a piece of paper and a pencil. Find some part of your home that feel special to you, maybe a wall you could see being the best spot for you brace up against during punishments, or just your stove, a appliance with the same rights as you. Kneel down infront of it.

Write "i am just a slave, Sir" in lines all the way down the front side of the paper. Then turn it around and write "i am just a slave, Miss" down the back. Fold it up, place it infront of you, kiss the floor directly infront of it before going into dogeza towards it for exactly 10 minutes. Pick it up when you're done and make sure to keep it somewhere special. Do it as needed, but make sure to hold on to every one of those that you do. It will help give your future owner a really good sense of what kind of thing he is now in control of.

Some ugly collared bitches are getting too close to Master again.
Time to bite.

>>11321918
No.

I appreciate that you're too yandere to live even as a normal yandere but you aren't the only stray Ive taken pity on.

You also aren't allowed to use the words "ugly" or "bitches' for anything except yourself. Be good, there will be grave consequences for disrespecting Master's will over His things. This includes you.

>>11317684
replying to myself because i'm pretty pathetic, but within the house slaves obviously there are distinctions within between the more fuckable ones like >>11317468 who are seen as decorative at the top, and the uglier, flatter ones like me who would largely be "the help", at the bottom, where our only exposure to Master's glorious dick is when He wipes it clean on our hair after he's done with a fuckable slave, and we are only lucky enough to get his seed on our meals, or when licking everything clean afterwards

>>11317566
i do love that slow corruption, where you start off scared and resistant, but eventually realise this is where you belong

>>11317971
>>11318014
blindfolds also make it harder for Master to make us flinch by raising an open hand/fist

>>11318856
that sounds so good, do you keep your arms folded behind your back whilst you do it?
do you think Master would like it if you borrowed a cushion for your corner whilst he was watching longer shows and films so you could kneel more comfortably rather than stand?
Do you ever imagine Master getting more drunk, and violent such that He starts throwing stuff at you. To the point where you fear adverts coming on because you fear how abusive Master will be?

>>11322083
>i'm pretty pathetic
Yeah obviously. At the very least you aren't seeing yourself as the absolute lowest now.

Knowing that you aren't good enough to be solely a decoration actually improves your value in the eyes of people like me who don't believe in slaves being only a decoration. Not going to need as much help in knowing your place, although "slow corruption' is just another word for "slave training"

>>11322084
NTA, obviously since I just tuned in the maximum cruel dom voice, where to put her arms is a good question. If she was maybe in the corner while a sister of hers was more active at my feet I'd give direction that she is to switch between arm positions at the end of every program. Go from folded behind her back, on the back of her neck, then ontop of her head, repeating in that order. As for a cushion, slaves are not in any way permitted to appropriate a cushion meant for people. At the absolute maximum, if she's given a scrap of cardboard to sleep on, she may be permitted to move it around with her if she's especially good that day.

Also I am extremely into being consistent in how I treat slaves, and that goes into my mood too. Sure I have mercy on them a lot, and plenty of slave training and just discipline in general is based on Master knowing exactly what is best for his property to pay him back with in that exact situation, but getting so violent with these creatures that I am drunkenly beating them just seems counterproductive. The word "abuse" isn't right since these things don't really work that way, but it feels similar.

I am a weird teetotaler anyways. And if you're angry at your slaves then whose fault is that exactly? They're even less accountable for their own actions than a puppy. Sure if you want to pattern throwing things into manhandling I think that's fine, but I'd think less of any Master who is so pissed off at his slaves that he takes it out on them during commercial breaks.

It's a shame I can only really find femdom images of the kind of energy im talking about, might be because I am more towards femboy aesthetics IRL and that even comes across in how I subjugate slaves beneath me, but I do think its important that slaves worship their Master, not just serve Him.

Take picrel for example. A slaves entire world is Him, when kneeling it is always before Him, facing Him, always being active in service towards Him. In a public situation like this there's even the active humiliation, but Master is happy, the cruel smile on His face showing just how great it is to have a girl completely under His thumb You too, should be happy, and show it, but the forced smile belies how living your life for someone else is emotional and overwhelming. Someone walks in on two people like this and its so obvious who is actually the person, and who is the dirt beneath them.

The only situation when you ever kneel infront of Master but face the outside world, maybe having His calming hand rest on your head or shoulders is when you are entertaining His guests in some sort of social situation. You will be explicitly told when you are meant to do this. I do not expect any slave to know enough slave etiquette to understand when she must be attractive to the outside world versus attractive to just Master. A slaves world begins and ends with Him, how can she possibly understand anything more.

>>11322716
Same thing with worship of Master's body, as in picrel. To even gaze upon His form is a heavenly privilege, to touch any part of Him is not humiliation, not for you.

Being ordered to drop to your knees as you are now being used as a chair is something that should make your heart flutter. Feeling the warm imprint of His ass on your back, knowing that you are, once again, putting that cruel smile on His face. When kneeling before Him to even be permitted to look at, much less kiss and lick His legs and His feet is something that you are divinely grateful for, but to feel Him in such a way, so much of Him being directly put upon you, it makes you ecstatic.

Among a slaves most cherished memories are when I reward her by hauling up her nude form to sit on my lap for a little while. her little heart absolutely pounding, its so much rarer than being permitted to sleep with Master in bed, a rather common reward. That's also the closest she gets to using furniture, but here she is, the closest to Master's world she will ever be, looking at the same computer screen He looks at all day and knowing just how far she's come from when she had to pretend she was happy being free and looking at that same screen. Feeling more of His body on her than she often does, and the contrast of just how soft and thin she is now against Master. Even aesthetically, it is undeniable that she is a accessory.

Also >>11321918 I do actually want to write "too yandere to live" on the bodies of girls when they're being a bit like that now. Its a warning, both to her to behave, and to the closest she has to friends that she might try to kill them, so they both need to work together to be especially good for a little while.

>>11322716
Bocchi would have much less anxiety if she had a mistress, knowing that she only has to worry about obeying her owner.

>>11322778
Yeah probably.

Im not familiar with the source material but ive never seen a slave that doesn't have crippling amounts of anxiety. Its a requirement.

You spend 60% of your waking hours nude under your owners desk now. Its fine.

>>11322778
"only has to worrying about obeying her owner" is at the core of what slaves deserve from slavery, actually. Plus I found loads of yuridom, lets go. Shame there is barely any depictions of Master and God the same way there is of Mistress and Goddess the way I like it.

If all a slave has to worry about is obedience, then the worst that can happen is pain, torture, scolding from her Mistress, the scolding probably hurting way more than the pain and torture, what is the worst that she can do, really?

Can't ruin your life if its no longer yours. Even if you try, that's using a thing that's not yours without permission, and you will be punished and corrected until you are happy again.

>>11322802
>Plus I found loads of yuridom, lets go
Do share. I enjoy reading mostly lezdom stories.

>>11322806
It was mostly just a especially fruitful pixiv dive, but a lot of images that are both sexy and convey the power dynamics I find even sexier. It's nice.

That one I posted before is a lot more showing how slavery elevates the slave just as much as her service elevates her owner. Both of the people in those images are very happy, but only one is obviously a person. The nudity, the kneeling, maybe you can read the slaves expression as heavily wincing but I read it more as also smiling alongside all this mistreatment that would be bad for someone whose a person, but she isn't, and is so glad her life is no longer hers.

Picrel feels a lot more like harem dynamics of how one girl can often end up slightly elevated over her sister, with this even changing position multiple times per day, despite their Mistress being explicit they are supposed to be equally worthless. That might be reading my own values into this, one of these things is nude which clearly marks her as the lesser, not about to throw some rags on the better when she's very slightly earned it, but its clear the foot worship service is a better thing to do than the chair service. Perhaps she was mildly more impressive cooking or cleaning earlier that day.

That was fun.
Hopefully Master thinks the same.

>>11317034
All male slaves are feminized with hormones and in chastity. Ideally the only males I get are small already effeminate men that are kept hairless nose down. When they aren't working, eating, sleeping or using the bathroom they are used as playthings. Rewards for good behavior include being tied up and blindfolded, edged for hours before being forced to lick their cum off the floor. Punishments include ballbusting and electrical impulses to their testicles with frequent offenders getting their cocks cut off and sterilized, balls are kept to keep them in line. I'd frequently use their mouths and ass roughly to retain dominance over them. Good slaves might be kept to be milked for artificial insemination to breed smaller, cuter, softer, more obedient slaves.

>>11318284
There's an autistic side of me that really wants the slavery system to "make sense". I don't like the idea that slavery is something that all women live in constant fear of because at that point it starts to erode into the idea of being free. I want a slavery system where slavery is based on some immutable characteristic or fact.
To me, slavery being based on some immutable characteristic is not because "the need to serve can't be ignored" but rather because it makes the line of slavery very clear. I want to see free women live without fear while slaves have no escape. The forsaken idea is meant to create a justification where by default everyone is brought up as free, so once enslaved they all still have to accept their new reality as forsaken.
There's no actual deep need to serve, only a societal justification to have a slavery system.

>>11323572
Ah I was perhaps filling in a bit of world building there that wasn't mine. My apologies.

I suppose there could be some idea of the more magic someone has the more dominant they are, hence the magicless being completely submissive, but nah, it works just as good as a cultural justification. Once someone is forsaken they will never be free again. Anything else just doesn't matter, but you do get a sense of what you lost growing up free, alongside the finality of knowing you can never go back.

Could maybe play with the idea of the culture believing that is how magic actually works as part of their justification but its just totally false. Maybe its a common myth or something like that, not really intentional deception, just a lot of people believe it since it sure seems like it make sense. Its your world building of course, you may be a slave but the only thing you are capable of owning is horny world building fantasies.

>There's an autistic side of me
You are in the correct part of the internet. But yes, I completely understand wanting the slavery to make sense. If your horny world building just ends at being horny and doesn't even get into complicated economics and social dynamics that makes you even hornier then why even live.

>>11323516
Seems to be a good beating. A lot of whip marks on your ass, probably a lot of entertaining screams and cries alongside the pain. Yes I had a lot of fun. Good girl.

Get the fuck off the furniture.

It's Dominion Day today. Shame that the biggest country to call themselves that it has mostly fallen out of favour due to sounding too ominous or something, rightfully so, since I love the word for describing how to best rule over a slave. Slavery is brutal, having your humanity and dignity taken so that it may serve someone better, but it is for your own good, the miserable toil and total dehumanization being how such things deserve to live. Master knows best, and His Dominion over you is absolute.

Especially today, remember to live in accordance with the values of paternalistic yet still brutal slavery. Be gentle with the minds and emotions of slaves, but only that. Be brutal in the treatment of their bodies and their life. They don't wear clothes, they don't sit on furniture, they don't eat real food, and when they fail to be of perfect service, they are disciplined without mercy. But when this life they swear they wanted breaks down, and they just cry and sob because no human is meant for this, remind them you rule over them because they never were meant to be human. Crouch down and kiss them on the forehead, let them cry in your arms while you give them praise for being such a good girl. All this suffering is for Master, and He is very proud of how He's shaped you.

slaves are nothing like you and me, but they also aren't completely servile automatons. Such treatment will help train a lifelong devoted servant.

>>11323572
Ways you can do this are:
>something equivalent to the 11+ exam which decided which school you went to a good school or not
>the privilege of emancipation is something that has to be bought. to test that you have the means and drive of independence, richer households can afford it, poorer ones can get it covered by a richer sponsor in exchange for service (yes i know that undermines the test of earning independence, but it's more important to keep the rich with a supply of young slaves, and the poor to keep breeding a workforce)
otherwise if it has to be immutable then it can be done on race

>>11322523
>corruption and training
Still sound too human like, needs to be something colder like domestication, breaking in, or something

As for the "abuse" the only free people it would impress are horny/sadists/both but the fear for the slave is special and hard to describe

>>11324263
>too human like
Yeah I settled on veterinary work for any slave medical needs. English doesn't quite have great words, although corruption for sure doesn't feel right, implies turning someone into something entirely awful which isn't correct.

Training does still fit in terms of helping build someones skills, just she isn't being made a better person by this, only a more correct form of life for her. A slave is valuable, but in a way completely for someone else, so training for a human would be getting better skills at something, whereas whatever a slave learns also helps teach her that her skills are only for someone else, just like everything else she is.

>the fear for the slave is special and hard to describe
Yeah I think I might understand a little bit. This person is the center of your entire existence, and this goes beyond the brutality of what your life is expected to be. There's fear of god and then there's fear of what that is. It doesn't feel right, even if she was actually flawless in service it wouldn't be enough. Although I expect many slaves to think of themselves so little the word "abuse' can't ever apply to them, its the best word to describe it. Using them in the wrong way.

Honestly as a Master it just doesn't seem like a good trait to have. Are you going to get mad and scream at your vacuum too? Your slave doesn't actually have that much more free will than that. She has exactly enough to degrade her service after doing that her, it's counter productive. Not going to hang out with people who basically sabotage their own tools.

>own a yandere slave
>one of her many duties is to wake me up in the morning
>far better to rise to a slave girls nude body and soft voice kneeling next to your bed than a alarm
>sometimes she has a bad dream or something and needs to apologize 7 times for touching Master's soft human bed
>one time though she was very quiet
>completely dumbstruck actually, looked like she actually had the last of her brains drained out
>ask her whats wrong
>"i...i dreamt of Master's left arm last night, Master"
>"its so perfect. I am thankful every day I am permitted to exist in the same room as Master, much less live beneath Master"
>wave my left arm around
>her eyes track it perfectly

Just adorable. I teased her about it for the next 7 years.

>>11296077 (OP)
How do I get a woman into this? I'd do a lot for a chick who'd role play my slave even for 4 hours a week.

>>11317699
getting a bit far off topic but would you raise the child as a slave, would you raise it as your own, or would you tell its breeding sow that you'll raise it as your own until she tells him/her who it spawned from? That way you get your own homemade reality tv show, where the child will likely abuse the sow that made it, and the sow will likely have to take it just to protect the child that delights in abusing her so

>>11324950
The primary advice I give for doing this IRL is that you can't coach someone into it, they need to be like that to begin with. Maybe you can do kinky sex, but anything like the slavery lifestyle you either are like that or you aren't. Usually that's more submissive girls that have the problem of trying to coach their boyfriend to take complete control of them, being a maledom that's less of a problem, just need to get on fetlife or something. There's a lot more slaves than people who are capable of controlling them.

Even just roleplaying for 4 hours is something you can do to start. A lot of submissive girlies have major issues with how they have things like a social life and friends and don't want to throw that away, what is described here makes them drip but that's also because of how extreme it is. What scares you the most also tends to make you the horniest. Even with all the dehumanization you still need to treat them as like a slave human, deserving of that kind of consideration for their emotional needs and humanity. Build that trust in them that they can actually submit their entire life to you. You can't flip that permanent slavery switch right away.

>>11324959
I'm that anon who really didn't want a child anywhere near this lifestyle, but I must admit calling any slave just "a sow" is some fantastic dehumanization. Not a fan of calling slaves pigs because they're fat, if they are and I don't want them to be then that should only take maximum a couple years, would even punish other slaves that bully them that way, but for just giving birth? Would use it all the time in that scenario of giving away my slaves baby. Instantly added to the list of ways to tease her.

"You really think that kid wants to see what dumb fucking sow they had to be born from? No you'll see them in 18 years if they want to. Get back to work. At least set a example by being a good slave and not just a sow."

>>11325017
Is it possible to just bring it up to your gf as a fun thing every once in a while

>>11325066
Yeah probably. Even if I believe this is something built into peoples personality its not like they spent every single moment of their lives nude and grovelling for every scrap of food. The vast majority of people like this also live lives about as normal as everyone else.

A fun thing once in a while is actually what a lot of people would be able to do, its more the lifestyle thing that's the issue. Even then, if she's resistant to it, talk it out. Some form of slavery relationship is non-negotiable for me, ive even turned down relationships in the past over this, but if it is something you want to do every once and a while some sort of agreement is way more possible with a lot more people. Maybe it awakens something in her or in you, just remember that even if you want to see someone as just a lowly slave they are people too, sort of.

Also any submissive person is way more scared of you than you are of it. Having a bunch of anxiety around even bringing the idea up will help a lot in understanding girls who are like that actually. It is up to you to show leadership and directly talk to them about it even if your heart is pounding as much as theirs the entire time.

>>11296077 (OP)
Which is better:
>1. Badass warrior woman taken down unfairly before she ever had the chance to do anything great, and seething in slavery forever
>2. Badass warrior woman taken down unfairly at the height of her career, when she's well-known and respected, and seething in slavery forever

>>11325203
I'm not into slaves seething forever. Witnessing the slowburn domestication is way hotter.

I do occasionally hang out in the more gender focused dom/sub thread. Even if I don't like engaging with the more gender based justifications for submission, don't post, but I can still add some pictures to my collection, and my god did the patriarchy thread have a good one yesterday.

I do love most feminine body types, but a slave is a lot like a living statue, and sculpting that is a strong demonstration of Mastery, so of course shaping a slave to be as close to my ideal of petite as she can is just the default. This picture is so good it could be useful as a model, the boobs are the exact right size, but you can also see despite her ankle manacles being quite thin how my favourite of extremely large and heavy metal collars and manacles would just be so visible on such a thin frame. It shows even more how slavery is overbearing her entire existence. There's also a fair bit of meat on her bones, that might seem strange compared to a lot of even anime girls you've seen, much less real slave girls figuring out how best to model it, but so many servile girls are at maximum risk of a eating disorder, especially once they've been properly enslaved. One of the more common ways to fail a body inspection is to very visibly not be eating as much so you don't take even more of Master's food money, resulting in His strong hand literally pushing your face into your feeding bowl for weeks. Even putting aside the health, its important to Master that you are soft to the touch and not as pleasing as a bag of bones.

>>11325203
>>11325313
2. It's obvious. She knows how much she's lost, and it gives her hope to hold on and never accept it, seethe forever. A fantastic challenge.

Such a famous warrior woman would probably try to kill me. Let her try. She might win, I didn't get to rule over such things by being afraid of falling in battle, she probably will lose utterly though. And learn that I barely even consider her a threat, she got 20 lashes for being catty with one of her sisters a couple days ago, just got a hard slap and shoved back to work for this. I mostly just chuckle at her threats of violence, the fact that I only consider them worthy of punishment when directed at other slaves would help to wear her down.

Even if she actually came close, you shouldn't underestimate these servile things that much, the fact that I will never show it might be the final straw to just break her. She was almost free, but Master can't even let her have a shred of victory by showing fear. Perhaps she never really was close to freedom, and the training and brainwashing is correct.

I like the word domestication for something like the concept of fully beating down a slave to accept her lot actually. Works for when a slave would begin to submit to daily body inspections after I have decided I am done shaping her from whatever body she had when free aswell. But for declaring her mind fully domesticated, when she has stopped seething, and knows that she has no choice but to accept what life is now, It'd be great to have a nice domestication ceremony. she can kneel before me while we both brainstorm ideas. You like public humiliation? Of course you do.

>>11324950
I do sometimes wonder what the symptoms are which causes someone to be into this. To me it seems like it would be easy enough to find a woman who is submissive, of which there are plenty, and try it a little at a time. I know I have a combination of crippled self worth and low self esteem that is pretty standard in people who come to this fetish. Although I am much less into the cruel dehumanization and much more into the pure bliss of being praised by a Master that means literally everything to me.

>>11325392
Yeah that specific kind of mental illness I think just is the symptoms. Ive yet to establish a pattern other than anxiety and self doubt. Other stuff might indicate what character class of slave you end up being. I find a lot of slaves with really, really dark fantasies inside of them. Ones they are afraid to admit to free people, but especially afraid of saying that stuff to anyone they wish to truly serve, so much of their happiness hinges on Him even when they are just staring at Him from afar currently. There are zero slaves who don't greatly love praise and headpats.

slaves will inevitably see their existence as completely at service of someone better, won't ever admit to a preference other than Master's will, but I do like to meet slaves halfway on a lot of things. Even some line riding things like extreme misogyny. Hard to explain exactly but there's this root of a romantic relationship that is still there, I still love a slave a bit like it is traditionally understood, want to make sure she's happy, and often times that means rooting around in her head that is still my property at the end of the day.

If the actual most important part of it for you is complete emotional dependence on someone who now makes sure your life is lived correctly then that does mirror a lot of my thoughts, and might be a better attitude for a slave to have for long term stability. As is easing into it one bit at a time. It's going to be hard for a slave to actually admit to wanting boundaries, much less talking with Master to establish them, but then that's what advanced headpat techniques are for.

>>11296077 (OP)
I know Lyn is the fave FE girl for these threads, but i have become addicted to the idea of Lilina being sent to Bern instead of held hostage and there, she slowly starts to crack at the hands of their general's "interrogation" techniques.
Slowly giving up the location of Durandal or legit just join Bern's side. (Never learning who killed her dad too i guess )

>>11325518
Tho, i guess this would be more of a POW than a slave scenario? Mmm... gues she would be both.

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>>11325413
Expanding a bit more on mental health in slaves: I do wonder how much the absolute deep end of mentally ill slaves are somewhat similar. I for sure could have gotten a girl only 1 or 2 times more mentally ill than me for kinky sex and possibly deep slavery one day, not immediately giving serial killer vibes is enough as a maledom on fetlife, but hey maybe the gap between me and a slave isn't as wide as I thought it was there, since I keep on going for the 20x multiplier.

A lot of them seem to need domestication in the exact opposite direction for their body, since they've been issuing themselves self imposed reduced slave rations as punishment for years. And long sleeves are universal, since the longer they go without a Master's light, the more those self harm scars pile up.

Y'know, like this character sylvie ive heard of. She for sure is not canonically of the age where I would declare her fit to serve, not at all, maybe I should properly play the visual novel even if Ive heard it doesn't really have a path for happiness in slavery, probably for the best considering the age, but there's a lot of depictions of her in some simplistic slave rags that are a nice visual. This is something I'd give a slave after she informed me she believed her domestic service might suffer because of just how cold she is getting, maybe a second step up from a camisk type thing if she's able to really beg.

A good way to treat such girls would be to actually push them on ceding forced nudity when at home alone with Master to you as soon as possible. The exact opposite of what a slave wants to be is "high maintenance", so a lot of people are going to see those scars and just think this thing will never properly be able to serve, or is just ugly, but after a while of walking around Master's home bearing her soul to you in a very literal way she might just finally be happy in her own skin, knowing that Master approves of what is His. Not much else matters for such slaves.

>>11325518
I might be the only regular anon who is not deeply familiar with Lyn already but I appreciate how you just want to Lynpost without mercy. Accept no imitation.

Remember: The difference between a fresh captive, a POW, a slave, and a fully domesticated slave is time and effort.

Lyn put a lot of effort into pretending to be a warrior or whatever. Repay it in kind.

>>11325540
The fun thing about Lyn is that she is easily understood even by people that have not played FE7 before.

She is a super fast, cool and friendly swordswoman that fights bandits and evildoers. And even if you play FE7, you can still define her like this.

Seeing her end up a sex slave to bandits despite all her effort at stopping them is just tragic and super hot. Specially if she eventually breaks and just accepts her new "job".

Lilina betraying her childhood friend and her country just like most of her guard did betray her once Bern invaded is also similar ot that, but i guess she is a bit less known since FE6 is somehow still japansese exclusive outside of translated roms.

>>11325551
Yeah ive never committed fire of any kind, volley nor at will, against a emblem or a 7, and I get it.

Honestly makes it better to just talk down to her about fantasy geopolitics that I don't understand. Look you only have like 3 things in your brain that you need to understand at all, slave. Maybe 4 if you're being used for a special occasion, if you want to earn a more flattering name than having to pronounce every syllable of "i love to cum rubbing against boots" then you need to stop being up in your feelings about how you got cheated and I'm just one wrong move away from being dead or something, that farm girl you're chained to is going to start bullying you if she has to keep pronouncing your bitch ass name 2 weeks from now.

>>11321918
>>11321927
On the note of "Yandere" or other hyper devoted slaves and especially ones with egos based on being "Master's best bitch".
That Energy should be directed in a more healthy outlet rather then letting it fester into hatred of other slaves.
Make her the Head mistress of the house slaves, if she feels the others "aren't good enough" for sexual duties.
Have her be responsible for ensuring they're well trained, groomed, in shape for sex, etc.
She'll be the strict "Mommy" over the other slaves, as she thinks "master shouldn't have to settle for anyone that cant meet my standards"

>>11325577
I'm hesitant to give any girl actual official authority, but yes, if I have to keep writing "too yandere to live" on only one of my girls ass all the time then maybe this idea could work a bit, at least in a smaller harem, maxing out at maybe 3.

When the slaves wake me up in the morning its supposed to be after rising 2 hours earlier to get ready. They don't actually need that much more time, its also to help dehumanize getting consistently less sleep, but I do the body inspections shortly thereafter and one of the ways they can cheat and get away with saving Master's money without His permission is to ever so slightly deviate from the haircare, makeup, skincare products, all that ive portioned out exactly for them. It is way more expensive than gruel rations so they sometimes try.

So the yandere was given no actual additional power or status, she is often very good but she earned her privileges the honest way, I just told my girls that the yandere will have her punishments relaxed for what she does prior to waking up so long as all them are able to make their beauty routines more consistent.

Not a single one of them has been getting caught using less. Infact, their consistency improved threefold. I checked some of the longer security camera archives, and yandere isn't acting any less or more intense, just i'm pretty positive her sisters don't think I'd be able to stop her from killing them when I'm not awake. Honestly their fear is overblown, I have ways.

>>11325594
Honestly though if a yandere is so like that then you might actually need to cage them up a lot to actually make good on your promises of protection to her sisters. A better option is to heavily train her alongside her sisters, build that kind of bond with eachother that would spread the yandere around a bit. This is why small harems are the best, although honestly you might only be able to do this successfully with a pair.

They see one of those cats in public. She's being aloof but still respectful and servile, as they often are. Rather than having one girl hold the other back since she's just tearing through saying the most awful things while trying to get at her for not showing respect, instead they merely get a slightly more painful than usual collective punishment for raising their voice at the neko telling her that she needs to show better deference. A good improvement. It is still completely wrong for them to talk to any other living thing that way, even another slave.

Wow its been a while since I went to bed 2 hours early.

What? No you're a slave. You aren't getting a extra two hours of sleep, dipshit. Go and kneel in your calming discipline corner in my kitchen until its midnight. -quietly- crawl over to your piece of cardboard next to my bed when you're done. Don't let me down.

>>11325611
I'm fine with staying in my cage, as long as it's next to Master's bed. I have to watch over him when he's sleeping, after all.

>>11325969
I thought I'd have to give direction to slaves that they are to sleep on their side, staring up at Master's bed, never breaking from their weird servile worship even when at rest. Nah they did all that on their own.

Picrel is by far the most positive representation of yandere slaves ive seen actually, yuridom comes in again. This slave is kneeling before a superior that "means literally everything to me", to quote one of them earlier, and this is the greatest thing to ever happen to her small life.

btw not to blog post but insane yandere bitches like that are ordered into corner time until 3 PM today.

Do it in your bathroom. It's cold and hard, suitable for you to kneel on. Just obey.

Even if I was just trying to get slaves out of my hair for a few hours I don't expect even completely beaten down actual slaves to be able to handle long term corner time, much less people head empty enough to obey the commands of the internet strangers.

Maybe if you've been in slavery for 10 years, the only time you wear "clothes" is when you carry Master's groceries home with Him, and even then, only as recompense for a grave mistake in service to Him. Unlikely to be able to stare at a wall with your own thoughts and understand why you really need your head to only be Master for that long.

I tell slaves to do it here all the time because its dehumanizing and shows how much of a failure a slave is without a person to control and shape what they are. Helps them understand their lack of humanity, plus it actually is calming in short durations. If you're having a panic attack Master will always order you to naked dogeza towards your shower for 10 minutes if you're unable to be controlled by Him in person.

Some slaves tend to be the type to fidget around so much and can't stay still that this actually is a completely lost cause, going to need a separate type of punishment for them. Still kneel nude on some hard surface, facing the wall, but Master is there behind you, for 30 minutes or so. Have permission to speak, move around a bit, just don't stop staring at the wall, and don't you dare stand. If you want to independently come up with crying and sobbing about how Master is such a supreme power that He deserves such better property to rule over then that would be impressive, I understand that you're too dumb to really mean it.

Also if you are going to bed a bit early and still want to force reduced sleep on them, might be better to order them to stand in the corner of your bedroom and stare at you until its time. They can handle doing that, they -will- stare at Master dumbfounded for hours. Its already their favourite thing.

>>11322084
I'm going to try the contacts on a girl all afternoon tomorrow. We'll 'see' how it goes.

>>11326784
Fun. I do wonder if she'll have problems with light sensitivity after a few hours in there. Would be nice to know incase a slave of mine ever wanted to beg really hard for me to indulge that specific horny fantasy in her head.

Nice to do it on sunday too. I know it's the weekend, but Ive talked so much about how having weekly supervised masturbation on that day as the only way a slave is ever permitted to orgasm is just so good. Always done at the same time, 8 PM, and if they aren't permitted to orgasm that week for whatever reason, there could be a lot, as recompense they have to come up with some other act of worship with me. They can be surprisingly creative.

Is your test subject going to have any duties tomorrow or is this more "experimental'? Can see telling a slave her orders are to clean this room top to bottom and then go and kneel infront of me to await her next orders, very likely sucking cock. A very average day of service, she'd not be told I'd be standing over her the entire time to figure out how she does, maybe noticing me or not is part of these experiments.

>>11296077 (OP)
ftm here!
>Questions for slaves:
>>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
I want it to be turbulent. I want there to be regret that I was even into this kink. But I also want there to be no way truly out, like some type of contract, anything, completely labeling me as property and not human. Honestly the moment of regret is such a big kink of mine that I wish to experience, knowing theres no way out..

>>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?
I would hope they would train me themselves, id want to be their pet project for a while, but not necessarily their only slave.

>>4) What training will you be put through?
Honestly I'd say anything you could imagine. Being able to withstand long times in stress positions with punishments if they falter, long times not sleeping until allowed, long times getting fucked, having my holes gaped, orgasm denial leading to a permanent chastity situation so only the dom feels pleasure, deepthroat training, training to clean places with my tongue, clean boots even, or toilets, training to go outside without calling for help.. and more until I'm fully broken.

>>11326807
Also feel free to ask more questions, love to write about my depraved thoughts online heheh

>>11326807
Glad to see the fact that girl and slave are used so interchangeably here hasn't scared off at least one example of other kinds of formerly human property. Good boy.

I have literally zero yaoidom which I think is what you are but then its not like you're a person who has any right to complain. I often self insert as the domme in all these femdom images anyways.

>I want it to be turbelent
>No way truly out
I see this a lot in slaves. There's this recognition that the way you want to live is just not for humans, which you technically still are. Even if its more accurate to say your servile soul fills up a human husk, you still have the same limitations. You will want to fight back at some point.

Tell me, you have a breakdown, you want out, and you beg at Master for freedom. This isn't some slavery world, just our own, so you're told "No. You live for me and I know your life better now that it's mine. You will not be set free." How does this mush up your brain versus something like escaping being literally a crime? Master denies your request since he knows you don't mean it, and likely never will. I can see honestly most slaves going through something similar, being afraid they'll mess up their life that way. They aren't all that different on the inside.

>>11326818
Hey why do you think I directly asked you a question, slave?

Be a good boy and answer the questioning of a dominant internet stranger in some of the most depraved and weird ways imaginable. Be especially good and I'll even interrogate you about being horny for when the forced long term stress positions leads you to being punished by only being permitted 4 hours of sleep that week.

>>11326849
Heh wow, an interesting first one ;).

Well that would end up happening on the first day if I'm going to be honest. Knowing myself I'd grow fearful and want to go back to before, to the time where I was only fantasizing, but then i would be told no.

I would definitely prefer no way out mentally rather than legally. And if i did manage to escape, or at least start to, I would hope to be punished. Hard. And permanently. Something like never being able to walk again (only crawl), losing privileges to something specific, permanent bondage, and etc.

The idea of somehow managing to get out only to be dragged back in, or be returned like lost property due to manipulation of authorities sounds fun though.. But not illegal. Just as its not illegal if you lose your keys in the street, the keys wont get arrested or anything, but you'll definitely pay much more attention to them once you get them back!

Hope I could answer it well ehehhe

>>11326802
>more "experimental'
More experimental. It'll be in public, so it'll still be a challenge for her.
>kneel in front of me to await her next orders, very likely sucking cock
I love the idea of teasing her with my cock like that.

>>11326871
You did good, boy. I don't have any pictures of what you are and/or want whatsoever so enjoy more of this weird femdom artist I found earlier today. slaves don't get to say no.

It is valuable to hear what you think, this thread is 70% a blogposting slave psychiatrist anon, and as that anon I appreciate unravelling what slaves have knocking around in the top part of their bodies. We're talking about something like seeing all of this being treated with humanity stuff, establishing boundaries, slowly ceding parts of your life to Master until you are finally human no more, and just saying "No I want complete surrender, please even just a second more of being free is too much Master please Master pleaseplease"?

I mean, yeah. If I have that much power over you then I will make this relationship stable long term. You will have no choice. A first day mental breakdown sounds about right actually. It will very likely happen later in the day, once it becomes apparent everything is over now. Do you seem like the type to try to run around sundown or like super late at night? Since you might be sleeping in Master's bed for a few weeks as a security measure.

Even in the, y'know, "Master slowly walks you into losing your humanity" type of relationship I am still chasing after any escapee. They don't know what they're doing, they're still a slave, they just need to calm down. Endure some really, really horrible torture to pay Master back. They need that to feel like they have atoned for what they did to Master. It would be somewhat tough to think of something even worse for you.

(cont)

>>11326926
Permanent punishments like that are something that you think you want, but Master knows its best that you don't have it. Not that you'll be told that. You'll be crawling for the rest of your life. Your head must never be above my cock, you will be forced into a standing stress position for however long I deem necessary if you do, since you clearly want to stand up so much. Also no reading, never again. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to teach you that, I will dictate anything you need to know to you, and you don't need to know much.

That would have to be dismissed after a while, but framed not as mercy, but as me actually liking what you can do for me while standing up, like being able to more easily cook on the stove. Maybe still not allowed to read though. Hasn't done you well. This is assuming the most extreme version of this act, you literally text your friends that your devices are being taken from you as you've finally decided to be happy. Slavery is a extreme enough choice, being enslaved in the most extreme possible way might make it tougher for me to have a good relationship with your friends, but I can handle it. I still might need to threaten you way more than anything else in your life to force you to wear clothes the first time your friends come to check up on you.

Also come up with more extreme permanent punishments like that. Its one of the very few things slaves are good at, being creative with their own torture. Losing privileges to something specific like...?

>>11326886
In public, hm?

I'm just not ever going to be more than 6 feet away from her if I did that. You have no idea what kind of trouble she can get into. Her little heart will be pounding the entire time.

Giving her the order to move through Master's house before dropping to her knees to suck his cock would be fun though. Is there a reason you can't find it? Its right here. You're supposed to be so obsessed with it you literally dream about it, what's the problem?

>>11326928
>I'm just not ever going to be more than 6 feet away from her if I did that. You have no idea what kind of trouble she can get into. Her little heart will be pounding the entire time.
Except for when she's in a car or restaurant, she'll be on my arm the whole time.
70% chance she'll be too exhausted for any real hijinks by the time we get home. Even walking takes more energy when you're feeling your steps.

>>11326948
Going to be hard to convince me to let a slave out offleash like that. Doesn't matter how good she say's she'll be, I just know. The moment she thinks Master's gaze isn't over her anymore, she'll have a panic attack and drop to her knees trying to find Master's boots so she can kiss them.

Honestly though sounds like a good time. Keep her close, she'll love being on your arm. Even if I'm horny about the cartoon version of slaves like that they're rarely that bad, at least not every day. She'll remember this specific good time with Master for a while.

>>11326968
>Honestly though sounds like a good time. Keep her close, she'll love being on your arm
That's the plan. I want this to seem relatively easy, and for her to crave more.

>>11296154
I hope the next time we see Kalifa, she's been enslaved herself for failing her mission.

>>11326928
It's extremely kinky for me to be "planning my own end" in a way, not literally my death, but my death as a human and rebirth into property. It goes back to that regret thing I mentioned before.. Me basically asking for it, detailing all the ways I could be punished and trained 24/7, all the restraints, the denial, the objectification.. Everything. Just being told "you asked me for this, this is your fault" would make me break down fast.

Losing privileges to standing without some type of painful spiky bondage, to orgasms, to controlling my mouth (having a pluggable ring gag in it constantly), to drinking water normally (would start from not being allowed to drink from anywhere but a dog bowl, but if I got worse, could just be forced to deepthroat a squirting dildo every time), to food (going from simple meals, to gruel, to leftovers, to dog food.. to worse.).

I was asleep sorry heh, I'm sure you'd change that though. Losing allotted hours of sleep per week would also be a good punishment.

Also, I like the pictures, don't worry :3

>>11327156
slaves only technically have a brain. Truth is, they do all their thinking with what's down there between their legs. It leads them to bad decisions, but still better than what their brain would do. The fact you're kneeling down there sure is a result of that, and if you're upset about it then whose fucking fault is that? Not mine, I take care of your horny little needs, be grateful.

And its a "feeding bowl". Not a "dog bowl". You eat gruel and lukewarm tap water out of there, usually. Don't insult dogs by thinking they're anything other than better than you, for one they have separate bowls for their water and kibble. You don't. Dog food is a upgrade compared to what you have anyways, and if you're so horny about getting fed even worse then that's that bottom brain of yours doing your thinking again. How completely unsurprising.

How exactly does that thing foresee me using sleep deprivation as torture and punishment on you, by the way? slaves usually get a couple hours less, sure, just to drive home what they are, but usually they're sleeping on the floor next to my bed, you think you don't even deserve that?

I could put you in some special punishment cell. A standing one, but maybe exactly enough room for you to drop to your knees and slump on the side for sleeping. There'd be a camera and a alarm. When I lock you up and go to bed, you stand in there until the alarm goes off to signal you are permitted to sleep. And again to wake you up. Obviously there's footage of if you've obeyed or not, I will know. Most slaves get 6 a night, and that already makes them a bit groggy. We'll see if you can handle doing 4 for a week, and if you're being even dumber than you usually are, perhaps we can experiment if you can handle way more.

(btw im not actually that cruel of a person or Master IRL, just god I love talking in the maximum cruel dom voice. slaves absolutely love it too, although that part doesn't really matter that much)

>>11327378
Sounds like a good option is chastity huh? With edging if you're kind. Keeping me, the slave, constantly on edge and needy, more tired, more willing, and easier to manipulate. Tell me I might get an orgasm if I do well after long enough of denial and my behavior might get better..

And of course, I'm even inferior to the feeding bowl itself at that point. A standing type oubliette cell sounds fun honestly.. for you of course. If I want to eat and drink just let it down through the ceiling grates and I can just hope I'll catch some in my mouth.

Enough sleep deprivation to the point where I'm running on autopilot, the little consciousness I have wanting to resist but being too exhausted to do so..

(Picrel on the oubliette thing, couldn't find much in my usual sites grrrrr, also i assumed so hehe, its fun to hear it though.. and it would be fun to be a slave meant for stress relief, so that cruelty is common~)

Found this one hot desu :3
Since theres no "no males/cuntboys" rule, I'll take it as a sign that I can post

>>11327428
People who know what the word oubliette even is tend to either like to torment slaves, or never really were a person. Its obvious which one you are.

If im upset at you, which you're fucking braindead so a lot of the time I will be, then yeah you can stay in there for a couple days. I will probably have another slave tend to my needs, even if you're just being even more insolent offloading your work to another thing. The gruel and the water together, separating those two is a privilege you never will deserve, but i'll just dump a quarter of what you usually get down there at 8 PM every day. If you're just crying all day then do you really need that much nutrition?

Chastity is actually interesting, to pull out of maximum cruelty for second, for some slaves even going a week is a accomplishment, others months is the norm for their service. Its one of those things you need to tailor to slaves personally to get the best service out of them, in your case having no schedule at all, just I randomly decide you've individually impressed me to be permitted, this time, that would do you good. slaves need to be denied and horny, edging is a kindness to you, you're right, but sometimes during more extreme times you can work edging into longer term denial. As punishment, their weekly release schedule will now instead be postponed for 2 months, and if they fail to withstand the daily hour of edging during that time, there will be a lot worse than the oubliette awaiting them.

When you're down in the oubliette im usually doing it for a couple days, I assume. You technically have a human body, and I am told that going 48 hours without sleep is survivable. So you will not be sleeping during that time.

There are measures to make sure you are painfully woken up. Don't let me down.

>>11327435
Also yeah cuntboys are fine. Some of the freaks who post here get really weird about that stuff but fuck 'em. Gender Identity is one of the very few things about a slave I will ever respect. There will be consequences if the slaves themselves think that has anything to do with what they are.

Even if you aren't the kind of body I'd be attracted to I do actually love talking in this cruel dom voice to anyone, and you're more responsive than most. "corruption" is a word that might actually apply to you, even if you've done the bulk of it to yourself. This level of masochism is even more inhumane than most mushbrains. One day I just know you're going to kneel before a human being begging for them to torture you to death, assuming you haven't already. Thankfully most humans actually are better than you.

>>11327465
Fun thing is.. i've been in chastity since January heh. Although allowed to remove it by a keyholder for hygiene and the occasional random orgasm/edge chance, but yeah. The idea of having to edge to keep myself horny is fun, although when I don't get that, I'm just made to look at porn or this board for an hour or two a day minimum. But we both know I always spend more time.

>>11327466
Aw yeah. Although, I don't think gender for an object really matters to be fair, no she or he, it would only be an "it", so it's not like it truly matters. I have a flat chest but a pussy so that's a lot of the porn I look at, but I also look at male and female regular stuff. Just objects in the end heh. Right now I'm being made to do exercise too, like a specific routine, so that aspect of being physically molded into an appearance attractive to somebody else regardless of my own opinion is what keeps me motivated for sure.

>>11327519
Oh you're already being used by someone, hm? I'm happy for them, but make sure they understand that their thing is talking to internet strangers this way. Go and do 40 jumping jacks right after reading this message, I fucking mean it, and then run off and make sure they understand that you are doing this. You were born to be illiterate, so you might have communicated improperly. Make sure you've been given permission specifically to speak this way.

I do also do like the use of "it" as a pronoun just I kind of am absurdly attracted to femininity, to the point where slaves of mine still get to always be girls and not just objects. Maybe some femboys get to be "it", edging their little cocks is just so more more damaging to their little minds, its fun, but nah. forcing my girls to look like some of the most beautiful models to ever exist is also part of it. You're right to love being molded for someone else, its the height of what a slaves relationship to people better than it really is.

Does the person you serve have a name for you? I'd probably just give you a number, but its not right that slaves get to just keep running around known as their old human name. Now that your life is feeling the cold air on your nude body and having a set of extreme emotions more suited to what you are, you're now called "crumbs". If you don't cringe at hearing your old human name, even when referring to someone else, you will be punished.

>>11327567
I'm not owned per se, just being given different types of tasks sometimes. The most ownership someone has over me is my keyholder and he is a-okay with me talking to anyone as he doesn't have the time to expect me to be exclusive, besides of course not disobeying his keyholding :P

>>11327605
Ah. That's good that you do at least have some people exerting some control over you. slaves need to live for other people, they simply are not happy living for themselves. Did you do those 40 jumping jacks I told you? It doesn't matter if you want to claim you did or not, go and do 40 more. Right now.

I am not interested in owning you, but I still like to think about slave names. Numbers are impersonal, you can try and figure out some sort of fake code, like you'd be plugged into some slave registry system that doesn't exist, or simply just come up with some numbers on the spot that feel good at that moment. Yours is the latter, being known as "slave 149" whenever I get a ID on you in this thread should be fun. It'll maybe make you feel better about living on this earth without also currently being a extension of a real person.

Also not to blog post but I am pretty positive the thread slave who usually does new threads is exactly two weeks into being dealt immense psychic damage. She might have been reassigned to other duties. It may be best to go down to the market to get a replacement.

>>11326968
>Keep her close, she'll love being on your arm.
She did. she didn't want it to end, but she was also exhausted, as I expected.
It was really really cute though.

>>11327719
Im glad. Deep down slaves just really want to rely on someone, and being on Master's arm while he quite literally guides you around is a great way to feel that.

I bet it was absolutely adorable. Make sure she gets praise and headpats, she deserves it.

>>11327730
>I bet it was absolutely adorable.
It was. you'd think taking someone' sight for the day would be a scary, disorienting experience, but she was all smiles all day, and very huggy.

>>11328028
Disorienting maybe, but slaves actually do just want to live for another person, its not just horny talk. I'm not surprised what would be scary for a normal person just made her even more attached.

Has she been trying to step up her service since yesterday? Even if you don't live together, she wants to clean your home top to bottom, put serious thought into how she can be absolutely perfect the next time she's told to suck cock? Deep down she likely considers something like this a reward, since it bonded her to Master even more.

>>11327466
>One day I just know you're going to kneel before a human being begging for them to torture you to death
Eaten alive or bust

>>11327624
Did them as soon as I woke up today, now I'm doing my other exercise heh. That name sounds gread ;) Should probably use it whenever I post in these slavery threads so you'll know its me

>>11328168
Yeah a lot of them are like that.

"Please Master, please I know I am unworthy to continue serving you, I am no longer young and hot enough for you now that I am above the age of 23, please I humbly request a final mercy that I truly do not deserve, but I would be eternally grateful if I can serve you one final time by providing nourishment to you, please let my final act be one of eternal service!"

I still think the slaves who claim to not have those really dark fantasies inside of them are just hiding it since they know human beings would be creeped out by what they really are, but its fine. They actually really do need to live their lives for someone better than them, someone who can say "That's nice sweetie but im not going to eat you."

>>11328172
I thought I told you to do it literally right after reading the message but good enough, 149.

Make sure you use "slave 149" on the next thread. Which not to blogpost again, but the usual girl assigned to thread slave duties might currently be dry heaving from anxiety overdose. Might want to wait until this one properly falls into archives or whatever, not sure how long that'll take exactly, but I can see her setting up some sort of successor to that. Any slaves around here that want to start a new one should probably keep it in their pants for a little bit.

That means you too, 149. Although "keeping it in your pants" as a metaphor does break down for slaves since its just so fucking disrespectful when they wear clothes at all.

>>11328187

Dang, hope she's okay at least! In terms of being able to function of course, what's the fun in a joyous slave? I'm always too nervous to start any threads anyway, i feel like im just gonna get a thousand replies linking me to a thread i hadnt seen before lolol. I was asleep unfortunately when ya sent the next one, but I did do the first 40 before bed heh. Just not the new ones ;)

Honestly been looking a lot at eternity collars.. they look so nice. Can't wait to get a part time to buy them for myself at the very least, although getting forcefully swooped up one night and waking up with one on would also work!

New thread:

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